10 minutes ago, Tug said:

I support the constitution and rule of law.

No you don't. 

15 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Not another Trmp thread ? its getting boring now everyday its the same on new topics. What tomorrow Trumps menue on Airforce One flying to Egypt. Doe's anyone post threads about thailand anymoreor has it just become a platform for Yanks.

A small amount here are americans if you havent noticed. Its mostly europeans and the way they want trump to do his job

15 hours ago, BLMFem said:

And heeeeere's Nick, back after a break, hoping the forum have forgotten his trolling!😄

Nick supreme counters your trolling

38 minutes ago, Fact said:

No you don't. 

How so?

20 hours ago, bubblegum said:

You want us to glorify Trump for 1 good result? Here you go: well done Trump.

 

As we just found out this peace deal is exactly the same as Biden reached before Israel rejected it after talks with Trump at Mar-a-Mango.

Trump: 10 confirmed deals across two terms (5 in 2017–2021 via Abraham Accords; 5 in 2025 alone, including the recent Israel-Hamas Gaza ceasefire). These have led to tangible outcomes like diplomatic ties, hostage releases, and economic corridors, with many still active.

 

Biden: 0 major signed peace deals.

His administration focused on diplomacy but yielded no comparable breakthroughs:

Efforts in Ukraine (e.g., 2022–2024 talks with Russia) stalled amid escalation.

Middle East: Supported Israel post-Oct 7, 2023, but no Gaza ceasefire or normalization pacts; Abraham Accords expansions (e.g., Saudi-Israel) failed.

Other regions: Incremental progress in Sudan (pre-coup reversal) or Yemen truce extensions, but nothing formalized as a "Trump-style" deal.

5 hours ago, TedG said:

 

The 2010 settlement — $270M write-off, never repaid.
The 2022 refinancing — separate debt, different books.
 

Idiocracy 103 — confuse a new loan with an old default and call it vindication.

12 hours ago, LosLobo said:

He defaulted on a $640M loan for the Chicago Tower — of which $270M was never paid back.

He still won the Presidency over your chosen candidate, and brought peace to the Middle East, so your whingy little diatribe about business practices in the developer inductry is just  sour grapes.

 

Toss out a thumbs down now or start another flamefest, but ya lost.

16 hours ago, illisdean said:

Who lies more than Biden did covering up his mental decline and corruption AND the "secure" border and so much more. The thing is Trump won the election EASILY because only the truly afflicted morons, and simpletons bought into the democrat lies and the bogus lawfare and thats the only talking point for simpletons when THEY GOT NOTHING and you GOT NOTHING!  LOL

 

Simpletons voted for Biden, and then Kamala too cuz they don't care, simpletons are simpletons ALWAYS.

 

 

When Biden was telling stories, lying, stumbling and mumbling about nothing he was telling other stories....like this....lol

 

"or or or....I, I, I,....is there a man on the moon, or is an alien here...here's your "adult in the WH" performing his muppet act in front of Don Lemon on CNN....ha ha ha

 

 

 

 

 

Easily..........🤣, 75,000,000 vs 77,000,000, back to the drawing board for you, chap..........🙄

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29 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

He still won the Presidency over your chosen candidate, and brought peace to the Middle East, so your whingy little diatribe about business practices in the developer inductry is just  sour grapes.

Toss out a thumbs down now or start another flamefest, but ya lost.

Winning an election doesn’t erase a quarter-billion-dollar default or restore trust.
Deutsche Investment Bank gave Trump a lifetime ban twenty years ago — after realizing he was a crook.
You’re still a couple of decades late to the party.

5 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Winning an election doesn’t erase a quarter-billion-dollar default or restore trust.

Supporting the losing candidate and living with an anti Trump addiction does not equal knowledge of the Building Industry at the highest levels.

14 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Supporting the losing candidate and living with an anti Trump addiction does not equal knowledge of the Building Industry at the highest levels.

Supporting loss of cognitive function — and living with a bong addiction — doesn’t equal knowledge of anything, let alone at the highest levels.

11 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Supporting loss of cognitive function — and living with a bong addiction — doesn’t equal knowledge of anything, let alone at the highest levels.

Translation: As is evidenced from my addiction to Trump Hate, I cant think for myself so thanks for giving me a line to use.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Supporting the losing candidate and living with an anti Trump addiction does not equal knowledge of the Building Industry at the highest levels.

Continuing to support a president who obviously is trying to strangle our democracy and foment violence against our citizens makes you what??because you are cognizant of what he’s trying to do makes you a hater and in my book a traitor.

3 minutes ago, Tug said:

Continuing to support a president who obviously is trying to strangle our democracy and foment violence against our citizens makes you what??because you are cognizant of what he’s trying to do makes you a hater and in my book a traitor.

Yep. Traitors. Of course you will use a term like that, got to justify your philosophy of violence.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Translation: As is evidenced from my addiction to Trump Hate, I cant think for myself so thanks for giving me a line to use.

Eh....?   🤔

Can you translate that......😬

10 hours ago, Tug said:

How so?

How often did you bash on Biden or Obama about unconstitutional actions?

39 minutes ago, Fact said:

How often did you bash on Biden or Obama about unconstitutional actions?

What did they do that was unconstitutional?I don’t recall them being impeached or the DOJ bringing charges on anything.

The America hating democrats are making their feckless useless braindead selves heard now as they try to prevent President Trump from paying the military during the democrat initiated shutdown! Anything to punish Americans.

 

 

 

 

 

15 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Trump: 10 confirmed deals across two terms (5 in 2017–2021 via Abraham Accords; 5 in 2025 alone, including the recent Israel-Hamas Gaza ceasefire). These have led to tangible outcomes like diplomatic ties, hostage releases, and economic corridors, with many still active.

 

Biden: 0 major signed peace deals.

His administration focused on diplomacy but yielded no comparable breakthroughs:

Efforts in Ukraine (e.g., 2022–2024 talks with Russia) stalled amid escalation.

Middle East: Supported Israel post-Oct 7, 2023, but no Gaza ceasefire or normalization pacts; Abraham Accords expansions (e.g., Saudi-Israel) failed.

Other regions: Incremental progress in Sudan (pre-coup reversal) or Yemen truce extensions, but nothing formalized as a "Trump-style" deal.

This guy huh, is not even sure what planet he's on. He solved nothing (except getting tossed out by his own party with the trash after Trump dragged his feckless a$$ thru a meat grinder in the June 2024 CNN debate) and destroyed everything starting with his outstanding gong show performance during the Afghan withdrawal.

 

 

14 hours ago, LosLobo said:

Deutsche Investment Bank gave Trump a lifetime ban twenty years ago

Total BS, big lie, you don't know what you're taking about.

When democrats speak they always say stupid things and show their out of touch hypocrisy and their elevated levels of idiosity and incessant lies. Even when democrats are silent their actions also reveal their deep seated stupid tendencies. Pritzker is just one of many examples of extreme democrat stupidity. Democrats ARE the party of STUPIDITY especially when they open their mouths and speak. 

 

 

11 hours ago, illisdean said:

Total BS, big lie, you don't know what you're taking about.

 

Not BS — established fact.
 

After Trump defaulted on a $640 million Chicago Tower loan in 2008 and then sued Deutsche Bank’s Investment Banking group, the group stopped doing business with him altogether.
 

The New York Times investigation records it clearly:
'Mr. Trump approached another part of the investment division for a $640 million loan to build a skyscraper in Chicago. It made the loan — and in 2008, Mr. Trump defaulted and sued Deutsche Bank. That prompted the whole investment division to sever ties with Mr. Trump'.

 

A few years later, Deutsche Bank Private Wealth Management — a separate entity within the corporate group — reopened lending through the Trump crime family’s link to convicted felon Charles Kushner — same logo, same shady money, different entity.
 

So, yes — the investment side did cut him off.

The private bank just couldn’t resist picking the lock.

https://archive.md/IGT8k#selection-569.0-569.290
 

2 hours ago, LosLobo said:

 

Not BS — established fact.
 

After Trump defaulted on a $640 million Chicago Tower loan in 2008 and then sued Deutsche Bank’s Investment Banking group, the group stopped doing business with him altogether.
 

The New York Times investigation records it clearly:
'Mr. Trump approached another part of the investment division for a $640 million loan to build a skyscraper in Chicago. It made the loan — and in 2008, Mr. Trump defaulted and sued Deutsche Bank. That prompted the whole investment division to sever ties with Mr. Trump'.

 

A few years later, Deutsche Bank Private Wealth Management — a separate entity within the corporate group — reopened lending through the Trump crime family’s link to convicted felon Charles Kushner — same logo, same shady money, different entity.
 

So, yes — the investment side did cut him off.

The private bank just couldn’t resist picking the lock.

https://archive.md/IGT8k#selection-569.0-569.290
 

 

Lol, you must be a devout democrat loser believing their own lies.

 

No, Deutsche Bank did not give Donald Trump a lifetime ban 20 years ago. The claim is false. Here's why:

• Relationship Context: In the late 1990s and 2000s, after U.S. banks shunned Trump due to his bankruptcies (1991–1995, 2004), Deutsche Bank became his primary lender, providing over $2 billion for projects like 40 Wall Street (1998, $125 million), Trump World Tower, and the Chicago Trump Tower (2005, $640 million). They saw him as a high-profile client, not a crook.
• 2005–2008 Period: Around 2005, Deutsche Bank loaned Trump significant sums, including for the Chicago project. When he defaulted on a $40 million personal guarantee in 2008, he sued the bank, and they countersued. They settled in 2010, with Deutsche’s private wealth division lending him $48 million to cover the default, showing no ban or fraud-related cutoff.
• Continued Lending: Through the 2010s, Deutsche financed Trump’s Doral Golf Resort ($150 million, 2012) and D.C. Old Post Office hotel ($170 million, 2012). Court records from Trump’s 2023 New York civil fraud trial confirm Deutsche profited (e.g., $6–7 million annually by 2014) despite inflated asset values, which were later ruled fraudulent but not acted upon by the bank as fraud at the time.
• End of Relationship: Deutsche only stopped new business with Trump in January 2021, post-Capitol riot, citing reputational risks, not a 2005 discovery of criminality. Loans were mostly repaid by then (e.g., via the 2021 D.C. hotel sale).
• Source of Claim: No credible reports (e.g., NYT, ProPublica, or fact-checkers like Snopes) support a 2005 lifetime ban. The rumor may stem from confusion with U.S. banks’ 1990s blacklisting or exaggerated social media claims.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/banker-involved-in-big-loans-to-trump-organization-testifies-in-civil-fraud-trial

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/12/deutsche-bank-severs-ties-with-donald-trump

 

https://archive.ph/XxORv

17 hours ago, Tug said:

What did they do that was unconstitutional?I don’t recall them being impeached or the DOJ bringing charges on anything.

Obama using drones to murder American citizens with no due process ring a bell?

2 hours ago, illisdean said:

 

Lol, you must be a devout democrat loser believing their own lies.

 

No, Deutsche Bank did not give Donald Trump a lifetime ban 20 years ago. The claim is false. Here's why:

• Relationship Context: In the late 1990s and 2000s, after U.S. banks shunned Trump due to his bankruptcies (1991–1995, 2004), Deutsche Bank became his primary lender, providing over $2 billion for projects like 40 Wall Street (1998, $125 million), Trump World Tower, and the Chicago Trump Tower (2005, $640 million). They saw him as a high-profile client, not a crook.
• 2005–2008 Period: Around 2005, Deutsche Bank loaned Trump significant sums, including for the Chicago project. When he defaulted on a $40 million personal guarantee in 2008, he sued the bank, and they countersued. They settled in 2010, with Deutsche’s private wealth division lending him $48 million to cover the default, showing no ban or fraud-related cutoff.
• Continued Lending: Through the 2010s, Deutsche financed Trump’s Doral Golf Resort ($150 million, 2012) and D.C. Old Post Office hotel ($170 million, 2012). Court records from Trump’s 2023 New York civil fraud trial confirm Deutsche profited (e.g., $6–7 million annually by 2014) despite inflated asset values, which were later ruled fraudulent but not acted upon by the bank as fraud at the time.
• End of Relationship: Deutsche only stopped new business with Trump in January 2021, post-Capitol riot, citing reputational risks, not a 2005 discovery of criminality. Loans were mostly repaid by then (e.g., via the 2021 D.C. hotel sale).
• Source of Claim: No credible reports (e.g., NYT, ProPublica, or fact-checkers like Snopes) support a 2005 lifetime ban. The rumor may stem from confusion with U.S. banks’ 1990s blacklisting or exaggerated social media claims.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/banker-involved-in-big-loans-to-trump-organization-testifies-in-civil-fraud-trial

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/12/deutsche-bank-severs-ties-with-donald-trump

 

https://archive.ph/XxORv

Nothing you’ve provided disputes my claims.
Let alone your dissertation on everything but the point.
You’ve single-handedly led me to accede to Brandolini’s warning — Adio.
 

Brandolini’s Law, also known as the Bull💩 Asymmetry Principle, states:
The amount of energy needed to refute bull💩 is an order of magnitude greater than to produce it.

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

Nothing you’ve provided disputes my claims.
Let alone your dissertation on everything but the point.
You’ve single-handedly led me to accede to Brandolini’s warning — Adio.
 

Brandolini’s Law, also known as the Bull💩 Asymmetry Principle, states:
The amount of energy needed to refute bull💩 is an order of magnitude greater than to produce it.

Yeah, you WOULD KNOW all about BS, and spouting lies, which is all you know being a deranged liberal liar like all the other obsessed haters who got NOTHING but their go to lying strategies. You know where you can shove your brandolini deflection nonsense. Try to keep up and try lying better since deflection is also one of your pathetic go to strategies. FAILURE...but keep it up fool and keep embarrassing your feckless self. You seem very proficient at carrying on with the acute democrat moron saga especially trying to lie your way out of everything. Big reason democrat liars fail, just go ask Kamala, who said for four years US had a secure border and Biden was sharp as a bowling ball tack AND that she was the [most qualified presidential candidate ....ever]

LOL

 

 

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

Nothing you’ve provided disputes my claims.

ok, but you are still a democrat loser, prove me wrong.

 

LOL

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Obama using drones to murder American citizens with no due process ring a bell?

You mean the terrorist that was planning terror attacks against American targets, so when they got a chance they took him out?

How's that different from the police killing a nutter waving a gun around in the street?

13 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

You mean the terrorist that was planning terror attacks against American targets, so when they got a chance they took him out?

Like Venezeulan drug boats.