Vernon Coleman is another of your venerable stable of quacks:

 

Vernon Edward Coleman (born 1946) is an English conspiracy theorist and writer, who writes on topics related to human health, politics and animal welfare. He was formerly a general practitioner (GP) and newspaper columnist. Coleman's medical claims have been widely discredited and described as pseudoscientific conspiracy theories. [emphasis added]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Coleman

 

Obviously, "nature" doesn't have the cure for all the nonsense in the world, or the people who perpetuate it.

 

1 hour ago, bubblegum said:

Ahum, this is a Thai forum, does this ally to us living in Thailand or just you guys in the US?

 

For those of us in Thailand, you've already missed the flu season and getting the flu shot. Too late, John.  

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The appropriate time for vaccination in Thailand is before the outbreak season, which is before the rainy or winter seasons, approximately from May to October. 

https://www.phyathai.com/en/article/3160-วัคซีนป้องกันไข้หวัดใ

 

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Vernon Coleman is another of your venerable stable of quacks:

 

We dont know what his background is.

Maybe he lost his license and then spends the rest of his life getting revenge on the medical establishment by bad-mouthing them.

Could be. 

 

4 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

For those of us in Thailand, you've already missed the flu season and getting the flu shot. Too late, John.  

 

 

Yes, different regions tend to have different seasons for things, and that CNN report obviously was based from the U.S.

 

But, there was an interesting report on the seasonality issue the other day from TIME involving Asia inclusive of Thailand:

 

As the Flu Surges in Asia, Could Getting Sick Year-Round Be the New Normal?

Oct 10, 2025

 

"A surge of influenza cases in countries across Asia has led some medical experts to warn that getting sick more easily throughout the year may be the new reality. Health authorities in Japan declared a nationwide flu epidemic on Oct. 3 after a wave of flu cases came five weeks earlier than expected for flu season, the country’s second-earliest flu outbreak in 20 years....

 

But it’s not just Japan. Flu cases have risen in recent weeks in other countries across the continent, including Singapore, Thailand, and India. ... The rise in flu cases around the continent, as well as outbreaks in Europe earlier this year, have led some medical experts to warn that influenza may be evolving to spread more quickly or earlier than typical in some regions.

 

“The flu season has started really early this year, but in the changing global environment this might become a more common scenario,” Yoko Tsukamoto, a professor at the Health Sciences University of Hokkaido, told the South China Morning Post about the epidemic in Japan.

 

Nicola Lewis, director of the Worldwide Influenza Centre at the Francis Crick Institute in London, warned last year that the next global pandemic could be caused by the flu. “I think the chances that disease X will be an influenza virus are probably greater than for any other known pathogen group that I can think of,” Lewis said. Disease X refers to a hypothetical new or unknown disease that can cause a pandemic."

 

(more)

 

https://time.com/7324877/flu-asia-japan-india-singapore-influenza-strains-climate-epidemic-pandemic/

 

 

23 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

We dont know what his background is.

Maybe he lost his license and then spends the rest of his life getting revenge on the medical establishment by bad-mouthing them.

Could be. 

 

 

 

We know what Coleman's background is/was:

 

"After publishing his first book, The Medicine Men, in 1976, which accused the National Health Service of being controlled by pharmaceutical companies, Coleman left the NHS.

...

In 1987 Coleman appeared on the Central Weekend Programme as a sceptic against jogging for fitness.

...

In 1994 Coleman was ordered to pay damages for threatening scientist Colin Blakemore, who had been targeted by anti-vivisection activists after a letter bomb sent by animal rights group calling itself 'The Justice Department' was sent to Blakemore's home, with another exploding and injuring three people.

...

He relinquished his medical licence in March 2016 and is no longer registered or licensed to practice as a GP."

 

Get the picture???  I believe "crank" and "quack" would be appropriate terms.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Coleman

 

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"It’s that time of year when the leaves are turning golden, there’s a chill in the air and the threat of respiratory viruses like Covid-19, influenza or RSV looms across the country.

I had three Covid 19 vaccinations a couple of years back, or maybe it was a little more than that, and I did get a mild version of Covid 19 according to the tests I had, however it was very mild and was over and done within three days or thereabouts.

Now after feeling rough for a few days I have tested positive again for Covid 19, and much the same as before, I've got a headache (almost constant), runny nose, slightly sore throat and a few aches and pains, but again nothing serious and nothing that a couple of paracetamol won't cure before I go to bed.

I would suspect that my previous vaccinations would be offering some sort of protection against this latest bout, although maybe I should think about getting a booster??

I just love your posts as you cut through the BS/anti-VAX nonsense and backup your posts with facts. Keep up the good work TallGuy.

20 minutes ago, xylophone said:

I had three Covid 19 vaccinations a couple of years back, or maybe it was a little more than that, and I did get a mild version of Covid 19 according to the tests I had, however it was very mild and was over and done within three days or thereabouts.

Now after feeling rough for a few days I have tested positive again for Covid 19, and much the same as before, I've got a headache (almost constant), runny nose, slightly sore throat and a few aches and pains, but again nothing serious and nothing that a couple of paracetamol won't cure before I go to bed.

I would suspect that my previous vaccinations would be offering some sort of protection against this latest bout, although maybe I should think about getting a booster??

I just love your posts as you cut through the BS/anti-VAX nonsense and backup your posts with facts. Keep up the good work TallGuy.

 

 

On your personal experience above, there was a doctor commenting on that same issue in the CNN report I posted in the OP:

 

"One question or comment I get all the time from my own patients is, ‘Dr. Ren, I got the flu vaccine last year, or I got the Covid vaccine last year, but I still got Covid, or I still got the flu. What gives?’” said Dr. Mike Ren, an assistant professor of family and community medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine.

 

“What I tell them is, if I get the flu shot and someone with the flu sneezes on me and I’m in direct contact, I may still get sick, but it would be a much lighter version of illness,” he said. “Vaccines are not just disease prevention, but it’s to prevent you from getting a severe form of the disease that sends you to the hospital or worse. Flu every year and Covid every year still cause significant mortality in the country.”

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/respiratory-virus-season-has-arrived-what-to-know-about-getting-this-year-s-vaccines/ar-AA1OvK

 

For certain diseases like measles and polio, vaccines can provide very enduring protection. But for other respiratory diseases, the vaccines can't totally stop them all the time (COVID, flu, etc) from getting into your system. But they can markedly reduce the potential health impacts.

 

A good discussion below of how it all comes down to the particular illness and the available vaccines:

Why Do Some Vaccines Work Better Than Others?

March 11, 2024

...

"what does it mean for a vaccine to be effective? That depends on the virus.

And how much it's spreading.

And the type of vaccine.

And the immune response stimulated by the vaccine.

In short, it’s complicated."

 

Vaccines help the body recognize pathogens as foreign entities and quickly mount an attack against them. Often, people think this means vaccines are designed to prevent infection, or facilitate elimination of a pathogen before it colonizes its host (known as “sterilizing immunity”). This has led to the misconception—fueled in part by unclear messaging on the part of scientists and media—that if someone gets sick with a pathogen they were vaccinated against, the vaccine failed. While sterilizing immunity would be an ideal outcome, it is not currently attainable. Instead, vaccines are largely geared toward preventing disease (i.e., the outcome of infection), which can also help minimize the spread of the virus."

 

(more)

 

https://asm.org/articles/2024/march/why-some-vaccines-work-better-than-others

 

12 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Get the picture???  I believe "crank" and "quack" would be appropriate terms.

 

I agree with him that jogging is a scam exercise.

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

I just love your posts as you cut through the BS/anti-VAX nonsense and backup your posts with facts. Keep up the good work TallGuy.

 

Facts™.

6 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The OP post here is about seasonal respiratory disease vaccinations for the general population, not about childhood vaccinations, per se.... But since you mention those:

The global burden of vaccine-preventable infectious diseases in children less than 5 years of age: Implications for COVID-19 vaccination. How can we do better?

"Infectious diseases are a leading cause of morbidity and mortality worldwide. As of 2018, the total world population of children < 5 years of age was roughly estimated at 679 million. Of these children, an estimated 5.3 million died of all causes in 2018, with an estimated 700,000 who died of vaccine-preventable infectious diseases; 99% of the children who died had lived in low- and middle-income countries. The infectious diseases that remain major causes of mortality for which vaccines have been shown to provide proven preventive success include, in order of prevalence, are those caused by Streptococcus pneumoniae, Rotavirus, Bordetella pertussis, measles virus, Haemophilus influenzae type b and influenza virus.

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8677503/

 

Actually the part about childhood vaccinations was in the links you sent, you may want to read your articles before posting.

 

But as I mentioned, 6 months old and up is just sheer nuts....

2 hours ago, xylophone said:

I had three Covid 19 vaccinations a couple of years back, or maybe it was a little more than that, and I did get a mild version of Covid 19 according to the tests I had, however it was very mild and was over and done within three days or thereabouts.

Now after feeling rough for a few days I have tested positive again for Covid 19, and much the same as before, I've got a headache (almost constant), runny nose, slightly sore throat and a few aches and pains, but again nothing serious and nothing that a couple of paracetamol won't cure before I go to bed.

I would suspect that my previous vaccinations would be offering some sort of protection against this latest bout, although maybe I should think about getting a booster??

I just love your posts as you cut through the BS/anti-VAX nonsense and backup your posts with facts. Keep up the good work TallGuy.

Given that you haven't had a vaccination in sometime, you dealt with it with paracetamol why have another jab?????

 

Your choice ofcourse

29 minutes ago, sungod said:

But as I mentioned, 6 months old and up is just sheer nuts....

 

It is, for all intents and purposes, a sacrificial cult.

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The wife sobbing at the funeral.

 

''Would you like to say a few words about your husband Love?'' Said the vicar.

 

"Yes! Thank you. He was an adventurous person, was my Billy. I believe he died happy though, doing what he loved; living life to the full. He died when the other person, who jumped from the plane couldn't get to him to strap on the parachute. And he crashed to earth. Right in front of a working steamroller. That was more bad luck. It wasn't his day.''

 

Another covid death. PCR confirmed. Number 1,278,746

You've created another career topping post.  I think those who have read it suffered an immediate decline in their IQ.  I'm looking for the undo option.

 

Will it help if I mark it 'unread'?

19 hours ago, xylophone said:

I had three Covid 19 vaccinations a couple of years back, or maybe it was a little more than that, and I did get a mild version of Covid 19 according to the tests I had, however it was very mild and was over and done within three days or thereabouts.

Now after feeling rough for a few days I have tested positive again for Covid 19, and much the same as before, I've got a headache (almost constant), runny nose, slightly sore throat and a few aches and pains, but again nothing serious and nothing that a couple of paracetamol won't cure before I go to bed.

I would suspect that my previous vaccinations would be offering some sort of protection against this latest bout, although maybe I should think about getting a booster??

I just love your posts as you cut through the BS/anti-VAX nonsense and backup your posts with facts. Keep up the good work TallGuy.

 

Remember > To be 'fully protected' one must always be up-to-date with all vaccinations,  😁

14 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Remember > To be 'fully protected' one must always be up-to-date with all vaccinations,  😁

Thanks but no thanks. 

23 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Remember > To be 'fully protected' one must always be up-to-date with all vaccinations,  😁

Indeed!

 

One of the problems I see, is computers. If a virus gets into a computer it can cause havoc. What do we do? Try to wipe it out. But, these viruses are clever. They send messages to their brothers in the outside world. And, the next thing yer know there is a variant. Of course a variant means a new vaxx.

 

Revenge of the computer virus.

On 10/17/2025 at 5:51 PM, sungod said:

Given that you haven't had a vaccination in sometime, you dealt with it with paracetamol why have another jab?????

 

Your choice ofcourse

When I had the initial vaccinations for Covid 19, after the last one I did get a very mild case of it which was no more than a slight inconvenience and only lasted a few days. The one I have now is quite a bit more severe and although I'm taking Tylenol (extra strength) it isn't helping much at all, although Ibuprofen does, and also helps me sleep.

Throughout my life I've had many vaccinations, from the childhood MMR, polio and TB to quite a few tetanus jabs as well as yellow fever and immunoglobulin, which was a mandatory jab when going to work in Africa for an oil company.

I seem to recall that this latest Covid virus had mutated/was slightly different to the previous one, so perhaps I need to get a booster to make sure I'm covered, although I should have acquired some immunity to this one now I've caught it, so perhaps I'll wait until the virus does its next round!!!! Forewarned is forearmed!

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

When I had the initial vaccinations for Covid 19, after the last one I did get a very mild case of it which was no more than a slight inconvenience and only lasted a few days. The one I have now is quite a bit more severe and although I'm taking Tylenol (extra strength) it isn't helping much at all, although Ibuprofen does, and also helps me sleep.

Throughout my life I've had many vaccinations, from the childhood MMR, polio and TB to quite a few tetanus jabs as well as yellow fever and immunoglobulin, which was a mandatory jab when going to work in Africa for an oil company.

I seem to recall that this latest Covid virus had mutated/was slightly different to the previous one, so perhaps I need to get a booster to make sure I'm covered, although I should have acquired some immunity to this one now I've caught it, so perhaps I'll wait until the virus does its next round!!!! Forewarned is forearmed!

So, even after all the evidence has been presented, you would still consider taking another jab?

 

'Covid is the rebranded flu.'** And you would have a jab for that; would you!

 

** www.vernoncoleman.com