13 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Some folks have dropped millions of Baht on their Thai squeeze, so I'm guessing you've ruffled some feathers with your "I never paid" lifestyle. 

 

 

Who cares what they think? That's their problem. We each decide the path of life we choose to take and have to live with that.

But it's good that they have a safe outlet to vent.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

God made women to be a companion to men. Not to be looked at as objects but equals. This is something we learn from our first male role models, or dads. If they took advantage of their wives, treated them bad, looked at them as slaves or objects of pleasure, the  boys created would think the same, and the girls would see themselves as objects to be used.

 

Normal fathers don't teach their children to be users or to be used, but this is one strong reason so many men don't look at women as equals and why people are trafficked and sold to lowlifes around the world.

 

Women are beautiful creatures and if they carry themselves as someone to be loved and cherished, they won't fall for little boys in men's bodies using them for their pleasure only, and will look for a partner that resembles their dads, who loved and cared for their moms.

 

A normal woman looks at a potential partner as a lover, provider and father for her children, someone to be proud of and not to be feared or disgusted by. 

 

True and in addition most women work and the couple provide for each other.

 

True, if they have children then it is normally the woman who stays at home until she can go back to her career later on.

 

Some guys do that too, it is not for me but I do not look down on it. 

 

Hence we have women in education, commerce, doctors etc, they do not just wait for a guy to sponsor them.

 

I have noticed many guys on this blog over the years do have the attitude where women are just for sex and are waiting for a farang with a wallet but that is a reflection of these guys and not women in general as these types of guys can only get women if they pay for them and thus have a distorted view of the word. 

 

Or they pretend that is the way of the world in order to convince themselves they are not a loser. 

 

I just laugh when I hear such remarks first hand before ignoring them and then move on. 

 

I did say once to a guy though in Thailand, if you think all women are for sale then go into a bank, ask any woman working there if she will go with you for money and I bet you twenty thousand baht the security guard will throw you out or the police will be called. 

 

3 minutes ago, JakeC said:

Who cares what they think? That's their problem.

 

Jake looking in the mirror: 

 

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

God made women to be a companion to men. Not to be looked at as objects but equals. This is something we learn from our first male role models, or dads. If they took advantage of their wives, treated them bad, looked at them as slaves or objects of pleasure, the  boys created would think the same, and the girls would see themselves as objects to be used.

 

Normal fathers don't teach their children to be users or to be used, but this is one strong reason so many men don't look at women as equals and why people are trafficked and sold to lowlifes around the world.

 

Women are beautiful creatures and if they carry themselves as someone to be loved and cherished, they won't fall for little boys in men's bodies using them for their pleasure only, and will look for a partner that resembles their dads, who loved and cared for their moms.

 

A normal woman looks at a potential partner as a lover, provider and father for her children, someone to be proud of and not to be feared or disgusted by. 

 

You write like a woman...

Again, if a woman is your equal, then why do you have to give them money and provide? It's really nonsense.

I don't have to provide for my woman, we take care of each other. 

32 minutes ago, atpeace said:

My woman isn't poor nor needs my money.  A situation I just wandered into 5 years ago 🙂

Freddy has wandered into many relationships here and his recollection and understanding of the dynamics are not reality. Freddy seems like a good guy but "his" reality always gets in the way.

 

 I'm far from a saint and have had the pay for sex and semi traditional relationships here in Thailand.  I just do what feels good at the time and have had few regrets.  Many are constantly chasing the next hottie and can do this for decades which for me became a bore. Couldn't imagine this happening 25 years ago but at 58yo being with one woman is ideal.  Have almost no desire to find the next perfect hookup.  

Only two relationships here. My ex wife and my now girlfriend. I'm fully aware of the dynamics of relationships, as I've had more than my share, and most were good to very good. It's only the three I've had children with that were problematic. It's best not to take sides unless you know the facts.

 

If you knew just how much I do know about people and how they relate you wouldn't make such a false statement. Assuming how I or he is is just that. The reality is some assume way to much, with no understanding of how people really are and how they life their lives.

 

If you're going to comment on someone , it's always best to have all the information and not to skim, as that's his failure, as well as a couple of others here who's memory is definitely fading, as they forget the most important things and add others that were never introduced. And listening to their lies about another isn't giving you the reality either. Remember what you just said. You had to pay for sex. I've never done that since I was 17. Being with one woman is always ideal, if you pick the right one. I made bad choices of a few, just as millions do everyday.

1 minute ago, JakeC said:

I don't have to provide for my woman, we take care of each other. 

 

Of course you don't. And she does.

 

We totally believe you.

 

12 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

It is much cheaper here and the women better looking and they don’t make you wear condoms.

So I consider myself a winner. And my friends back in the UK with frumpy 50 years olds and expensive sub standard prostitutes as the losers actually.

 

That is my perspective anyway, and that is all that really matters.

 

You sound like you not really getting much if I am to be honest.

 

That is why most of us stay away from bar girls and prostitutes.

 

You said, "You sound like you not really getting much if I am to be honest."

 

All of us have wallets, any idiot can buy one (or ten) as you are doing, I would hide the fact I have to pay for it if I was you.

 

"Hey guys look at me I have hired a prostitute".

 

"We and everyone else could see that as soon as you both walked into the building" 😄

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, JakeC said:

 

You write like a woman...

Again, if a woman is your equal, then why do you have to give them money and provide? It's really nonsense.

I don't have to provide for my woman, we take care of each other. 

No, I just understand women a lot better than you do, and again, that insult isn't giving you my reality. You have never met anyone like me, because if you did, you wouldn't talk like you do, as a coward online. Try comprehending what you read. I told you my story, and you haven't the ability to separate fact from your fiction. You just like trying to put others down from your inferiority complex. But keep it up, as more are seeing you as you really are, and not the innocent act you sometimes pull. No one knows how you are with women, as it all can be lies and exaggerations. You keep blowing your own horn, and actually say others do here.

1 minute ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

I would hide the fact I have to pay for it if I was you.

 

Why? You're paying as well.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Only two relationships here. My ex wife and my now girlfriend. I'm fully aware of the dynamics of relationships, as I've had more than my share, and most were good to very good. It's only the three I've had children with that were problematic. It's best not to take sides unless you know the facts.

 

If you knew just how much I do know about people and how they relate you wouldn't make such a false statement. Assuming how I or he is is just that. The reality is some assume way to much, with no understanding of how people really are and how they life their lives.

 

If you're going to comment on someone , it's always best to have all the information and not to skim, as that's his failure, as well as a couple of others here who's memory is definitely fading, as they forget the most important things and add others that were never introduced. And listening to their lies about another isn't giving you the reality either. Remember what you just said. You had to pay for sex. I've never done that since I was 17. Being with one woman is always ideal, if you pick the right one. I made bad choices of a few, just as millions do everyday.

 

Taking sides? That says everything anyone needs to know about your mindset.  They are just giving their opinion. You call that 'taking sides'. When do you plan to grow out of that and to realise that not everything is about you?

Here you are AGAIN, accusing yet another forum member of skimming and assuming...

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Of course you don't. And she does.

 

We totally believe you.

 

 

Stop posting your likenesses here. It's disconcerting. 

Just now, JakeC said:

 

Taking sides? That says everything anyone needs to know about your mindset.  They are just giving their opinion. You call that 'taking sides'. When do you plan to grow out of that and to realise that not everything is about you?

Here you are AGAIN, accusing yet another forum member of skimming and assuming...

You need to stop answering for others here, as they aren't in your petulant thinking or don't share your weaknesses, besides just those few who think just as you do. He did assume, as he thought I had more than the two relationships here, but I'm thinking since i explained that, he has the sense to understand where his comment was wrong, and you answering for him is just another venture into your incessant trolling of a few here.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, I just understand women a lot better than you do, and again, that insult isn't giving you my reality. You have never met anyone like me, because if you did, you wouldn't talk like you do, as a coward online. Try comprehending what you read. I told you my story, and you haven't the ability to separate fact from your fiction. You just like trying to put others down from your inferiority complex. But keep it up, as more are seeing you as you really are, and not the innocent act you sometimes pull. No one knows how you are with women, as it all can be lies and exaggerations. You keep blowing your own horn, and actually say others do here.

 

What??!! That would be assuming wouldn't it? Something that you accuse other people here of on a daily basis.

Claiming that you don't do that but tell it like it is.

You know women so well that you chose to have a child with someone you claim is a narcissist. 🤡

How do you stop yourself from laughing when you write that nonsense?

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

You need to stop answering for others here, as they aren't in your petulant thinking or don't share your weaknesses, besides just those few who think just as you do. He did assume, as he thought I had more than the two relationships here, but I'm thinking since i explained that, he has the sense to understand where his comment was wrong, and you answering for him is just another venture into your incessant trolling of a few here.

 

What a load of infantile rubbish...

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I can assure you I'm not. Whilst there are indeed women aged 45 that can still be passably attractive, ie retain a rest, a semblance of attraction, they are a shadow of who they used to be.

 

No matter how good a woman is at 45, a woman at 25 will always be VASTLY ,VASTLY more attractive, always presuspposing both had an equal attraction level to begin with of course.

Get where you are coming from but you are assuming we all are just like you. I find 40+ women much more attractive and felt this way in my 40s.  Much, much, much  easier to pay for a 20 something than find the rare 40+ beauty hence the path most follow here in Thailand.  

 

Some just need to continuously get their rocks off as often as possible and I have many friends that fall into this category.  I was one of them 🙂  Now, I have a beautiful older woman and life is good.  To each his own.

Just now, JakeC said:

 

What a load of infantile rubbish...

Yes, that's exactly how many would describe your replies to us here. Try not assuming who you're talking to here, as it's usually teen thinking to underestimate people they've never met, and only know about them from some words in an online forum. You'll keep it up though, at least until you've exposed yourself enough for them to get rid of your childish character.

I'll take any woman as long as I don't have to pay

12 hours ago, persimmon said:

I first came over in `97 , they were just putting the foundations in for the skytrain down Sukhumvit . I remember when we were landing the captain said " Welcome to Bangkok , the temperature is 41 degrees " when the airport doors open , there`s that hot humid wave of air with the unique Bangkok smell . I`d never been further than Europe and it really had a big effect on me . I never wanted to go back to the UK ...ever .

But that was then , with 75 bt / £ 1 . Soi Bua Kao was just a dirt road lined with ramshackle bars . The whole place had a relaxed , easy going feel , not like the present day where everyone looks stressed with an eye on the bottom line and where the next baht is coming from .

 

Like many people you just got old and miserable, you are the one who has changed. 

 

Thailand was great when I first came here in 1987 and is even better now.

 

Phuket has the best of all worlds.

 

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, I just understand women a lot better than you do, and again, that insult isn't giving you my reality. You have never met anyone like me, because if you did, you wouldn't talk like you do, as a coward online. Try comprehending what you read. I told you my story, and you haven't the ability to separate fact from your fiction. You just like trying to put others down from your inferiority complex. But keep it up, as more are seeing you as you really are, and not the innocent act you sometimes pull. No one knows how you are with women, as it all can be lies and exaggerations. You keep blowing your own horn, and actually say others do here.

 

Anyone who knows my history here, knows that I post the same thing, consistently. Believe me, if I ever posted any contradiction, they would be on to it.

No lies. No exaggerations. No inconsistencies. 

Of course the reason why you write the things that you do is that you cannot find fault with my behaviour towards women, so you have to create something in your mind.

The glaringly obvious reality is that if I treated women badly and don't give them money, then why would they stay? But they do.

Whereas you drove your woman to NPD and she ran away from you. This one you have to pay to stay.

You see how it works? Anyone can make up stories about the other. 

 

I came here a couple years ago with my American wife.  We promptly broke up.

 

I’ve always been deep into Thai art and religion. My stack of Thai cultural interest books it’s about a meter high.

 

I am living the best life I ever lived in Central Sukhamvit .

 

Great apartment on a super touristed  street, whatever I want for dinner every night, personal trainer, yoga membership. Plenty of friends.
 

dating update:

 

I’ve given up entirely again. Maybe I’ll try again in the new year.
 

It was too much mental focus and energy drain. I’m going to get private Thai lessons and do two hours of study a day instead.

 

 

3 minutes ago, JakeC said:

 

What??!! That would be assuming wouldn't it? Something that you accuse other people here of on a daily basis.

Claiming that you don't do that but tell it like it is.

You know women so well that you chose to have a child with someone you claim is a narcissist. 🤡

How do you stop yourself from laughing when you write that nonsense?

I accuse where it belongs. Your replies have always been assumptions. This after people have told you the truth. That's the narcissists way of deflecting away from them, as they'll never admit their own insanity and try to put their way of life back onto others.

 

If I knew my ex was a covert narcissist, I wouldn't have stayed with her at all. You deflecting away from what this means shows you are one, as they always blame others and will never admit the real them.

 

A covert narcissist love bombs people until they have them hooked, then the real them comes out to hurt, much the same way they've been hurt in the past. You should understand this, as it's your way of acting on this forum, attacking others then playing the innocent. What you aren't realizing, is that I'm far from the only one who sees you as you really are.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, that's exactly how many would describe your replies to us here. Try not assuming who you're talking to here, as it's usually teen thinking to underestimate people they've never met, and only know about them from some words in an online forum. You'll keep it up though, at least until you've exposed yourself enough for them to get rid of your childish character.

 

That looks like a lot of assumptions to me. As an educated guess, I think you have NPD.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Which is a strong reason to just stay in Australia and travel to different countries, especially if you have a home there.

 

The only problem with that method is Australia is full of Australians with very annoying accents. 😄

1 minute ago, Prubangboy said:

I came here a couple years ago with my American wife.  We promptly broke up.

 

I’ve always been deep into Thai art and religion. This is the most interesting place on earth to me my stack of cultural interest interest books it’s about a meter high.

 

I am living the best life I ever lived in Central Sukhamvit . Great apartment on a super touristed  street, whatever I want for dinner every night, personal trainer, yoga membership. Plenty of friends.
 

dating update:

 

I’ve given up entirely again. Maybe I’ll try again in the new year.
 

It was too much mental focus and energy drain. I’m going to get private Thai lessons and do two hours of study a day instead.

 

 

 

Wow...that was quick. You were touting the restauranteur as the new prospect. I guess there's an update on that somewhere.

16 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Only two relationships here. My ex wife and my now girlfriend. I'm fully aware of the dynamics of relationships, as I've had more than my share, and most were good to very Assuming how I or he is is just that. The reality is some assume way to much, with no understanding of how people really are and how they life their lives.

 

I

We all assume on this forum as you do often.  Some are better at understanding that their perspective is not universal.  Anyhow, you seem to be in a good relationship now and the best of luck in the coming years 🙂

6 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

I came here a couple years ago with my American wife.  We promptly broke up.

 

I’ve always been deep into Thai art and religion. My stack of Thai cultural interest books it’s about a meter high.

 

I am living the best life I ever lived in Central Sukhamvit .

 

Great apartment on a super touristed  street, whatever I want for dinner every night, personal trainer, yoga membership. Plenty of friends.
 

dating update:

 

I’ve given up entirely again. Maybe I’ll try again in the new year.
 

It was too much mental focus and energy drain. I’m going to get private Thai lessons and do two hours of study a day instead.

 

 

Obviously you have money .....it helps 

But.....your lonely , you don't need a personal trainer ,start thinking for yourself and stop being needy 

That's why your not meeting anyone 

Start cleaning your own apartment,cooking by yourself and going to the gym by yourself 

Stop relying on others !

Do things yourself 

 

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I accuse where it belongs. Your replies have always been assumptions. This after people have told you the truth. That's the narcissists way of deflecting away from them, as they'll never admit their own insanity and try to put their way of life back onto others.

 

If I knew my ex was a covert narcissist, I wouldn't have stayed with her at all. You deflecting away from what this means shows you are one, as they always blame others and will never admit the real them.

 

A covert narcissist love bombs people until they have them hooked, then the real them comes out to hurt, much the same way they've been hurt in the past. You should understand this, as it's your way of acting on this forum, attacking others then playing the innocent. What you aren't realizing, is that I'm far from the only one who sees you as you really are.

 

Wow...you've managed to get assuming, skimming and narcissist all on the same page.

 

You do understand that repeating these things hundreds of times to different people indicates that it is you who suffers from those things...don't you?

 

Thank you for admitting that you were hurt by your 'narcissist' ex-girlfriend and so you became one. Surely that is the concept you tried to explain there. 

That it happened to you, so you became that. Keep paying, keep pretending to be nice. But we see the real @fredwiggy here. Nasty, vindictive and abusive when he cannot get his own way.

The problem is ALWAYS with someone else and not you. You see yourself as infallible. That's part of what makes you a narcissist IMHO.

Just now, JakeC said:

 

Wow...you've managed to get assuming, skimming and narcissist all on the same page.

 

You do understand that repeating these things hundreds of times to different people indicates that it is you who suffers from those things...don't you?

 

Thank you for admitting that you were hurt by your 'narcissist' ex-girlfriend and so you became one. Surely that is the concept you tried to explain there. 

That it happened to you, so you became that. Keep paying, keep pretending to be nice. But we see the real @fredwiggy here. Nasty, vindictive and abusive when he cannot get his own way.

Oh leave old Fred alone.....he hasn't got long 

1 minute ago, JakeC said:

 

Anyone who knows my history here, knows that I post the same thing, consistently. Believe me, if I ever posted any contradiction, they would be on to it.

No lies. No exaggerations. No inconsistencies. 

Of course the reason why you write the things that you do is that you cannot find fault with my behaviour towards women, so you have to create something in your mind.

The glaringly obvious reality is that if I treated women badly and don't give them money, then why would they stay? But they do.

Whereas you drove your woman to NPD and she ran away from you. This one you have to pay to stay.

You see how it works? Anyone can make up stories about the other. 

 

Yes, you post BS and assumptions, all the time. Again seeing you're too dense to fathom this. You were not there. You have no idea how I relate to women. You, along with others here,were told the truth about me, as I have never had anything to hide.

 

You, along with Malcy and couple of others, either have very poor memories or more likely are just disturbed enough to twist things around, likely from the inability to have a normal relationship with a woman, even though you act like you look at them as equals. That's exactly how I look at them as, and treat them very well.

 

Saying i drove my woman to NPD, when anyone with any knowledge on the subject knows it comes from childhood trauma, shows just how ignorant you are. She didn't run. I divorced her, and the day before yesterday, she came to my house to pick up our daughter, and in front of her, hugged and kissed on me, saying papa is a good man, and she's sorry what she did to me, that she re,e,bers everything how well I treated her, and regrets it, even more now that's she's married again.

 

I've said this before, when I never had to say anything about my life, as I know some normal expats can relate to what I've experienced. Some, like you, have their reasons why they have to twist things around. Maybe you're inferiority complex, possibly that you haven't a clue how to treat women and make up lies to make yourself sound like a gentleman. That you are going after more besides me also shows them how you really think. I don't pay women to stay. I treat them well.

8 minutes ago, JakeC said:

 

That looks like a lot of assumptions to me. As an educated guess, I think you have NPD.

You don't have the education to do anything besides assume. You're a teenager in a man's body that's still deflecting away from the real you/ Grow up and realize you're not in my league, and find another way to vent your anger.