Uncle Rumak is correct. There is little point in telling what I would do. Best he learns by himself.

She's lying on the couch now. Refuses to go eat anywhere. To go out anywhere. Just lies there watching Tik Tok.

 

I need to get her out of the house to do something fun. But she refuses to go.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She's lying on the couch now. Refuses to go eat anywhere. To go out anywhere. Just lies there watching Tik Tok.

 

I need to get her out of the house to do something fun. But she refuses to go.

Welcome to the world you chose. It will be like this each and every day going forward. I think you know that is a fact. 

19 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Uncle Rumak is correct. There is little point in telling what I would do. Best he learns by himself.

 

Well "set her free" is not the answer anyway.

 

She just wants to know she's taken care of financially. I could go to 12000 maybe. The problem is her sister makes 40000 or 60000 as a bar girl in Phuket. This is what is making her demands unreasonable. She already said she wouldn't mind trying to be a bar girl. Because of the money obviously.

 

So I have two issues. Her material demands are out of whack. And two, she needs Thai companionship.

22 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Uncle Rumak is correct. There is little point in telling what I would do. Best he learns by himself.

 

I'll take the "uncle"  as a sign of respect ......😂     

 

Cam surely isn't going to "learn"  from our experience.   Each boy must learn lifes lessons

by themself .    

12 minutes ago, marin said:

Welcome to the world you chose. It will be like this each and every day going forward. I think you know that is a fact. 

 

hmmmmm.  

12 minutes ago, marin said:

Welcome to the world you chose. It will be like this each and every day going forward. I think you know that is a fact. 

 

I think this is just a mini-Tampo because I did not settle the financial issue firmly either way. She wanted assurances. Of at least a half way acceptable figure to her.

 

Now she's considering if she might not be better off taking a job in Phuket, at least financially.

Why not call a spade a spade? Draw up an employment contract. What is allowed and what is not allowed. 

 

18 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Well "set her free" is not the answer anyway.

"If you love something, set it free. If it doesn't come back, hunt it down and kill it."

34 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She's lying on the couch now. Refuses to go eat anywhere. To go out anywhere. Just lies there watching Tik Tok.

 

I need to get her out of the house to do something fun. But she refuses to go.

 

Looks like you got a slothful girl on your hands.

And she doesn't work? Yikes ... watching all Tik Tok all day. 

 

13 hours ago, emptypockets said:

You will only release her!!!

Man thats creepy!

Perhaps the police should be involved.

I knew all along this bloke is a creep ,stalker weirdo.   Do not beleive a word he has to say. Used to be world kickboxing champion. Then a high class lawyer.   The guy is as dumb as a cabbage.

9 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Looks like you got a slothful girl on your hands.

And she doesn't work? Yikes ... watching all Tik Tok all day. 

 

 

Yah, she point blank refuses to go anywhere. Says she needs to sleep today. She won't even eat.

 

This is making my life worse. I don't want to stay in the house all day.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

This is making my life worse. I don't want to stay in the house all day.

 

Well, you may need to rule out that she is going to be your sex partner and your best buddy and your chess partner and your cycling partner and find other people to hang out with and fill the gaps. 

 

Oh no

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

She's not a "sex worker". 

 

 

Keep telling yourself that over and over again.

 

15 years in Thailand no woman ever asked me for money point black like this. No shame whatsoever. Phuket job is 100% sex work.

 

You can only get laid by prostitutes, not regular Thai women. The women in the past used you so much you lost the plot.

 

Sad really

27 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Well, you may need to rule out that she is going to be your sex partner and your best buddy and your chess partner and your cycling partner and find other people to hang out with and fill the gaps. 

 

 

Yah, we may have to part ways. She's not even trying.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She's not a "sex worker". 

For 20K/month she is a sex worker. 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yah, we may have to part ways. She's not even trying.

That went down fast. 

14 minutes ago, TedG said:

For 20K/month she is a sex worker. 

 

No, I have met non sex workers asking for that or more.

1 - Women do not have as many high paying job options as in the west. Many jobs don't pay well.

2 - Divorce rates are high and there are many single mothers who need to raise children. And if they are from poor families, they also need to support their parents.

3 - Many women are in serious debt. Not sure about many, but I've met more than one. So you are inheriting these debts when you get hitched up. 

 

If you can marry a middle class Thai, pat yourself on the back. Then you may not need to offer 20K/month or more. 

 

It's only on AN for some reason that nobody ever needs to pay their gf wife anything. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Last night's sex was very good. Biggest orgasm yet. Her shaved garden is a fountain of delights. Technically well done. However, the heated passion of the first two days has dissipated markedly.

 

The way you write about this stuff is creepy and lecherous...  

 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

On wake  up she wanted to talk about money. She has 40000 saved. Needs 3000 for the motorcycle and 3000 for her mother each month. Her demand is 20000 though.

 

There....  as predictable as night turning into day... 

 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She's not a "sex worker". 

 

Demanding a 'monthly salary' of 20,000 baht baht because she has sex with you - is the very definition of a sex worker.

 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I told her, this 62 year old Austrian ex only paid you 10000 but I'm supposed to pay 20000? Surely you jest? I deserve handsome man discount.

 

Her reply, she only had sex with Austrian ex once a week. With me every  day.

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, I have met non sex workers asking for that or more.

1 - Women do not have as many high paying job options as in the west. Many jobs don't pay well.

2 - Divorce rates are high and there are many single mothers who need to raise children. And if they are from poor families, they also need to support their parents.

3 - Many women are in serious debt. Not sure about many, but I've met more than one. So you are inheriting these debts when you get hitched up. 

 

If you can marry a middle class Thai, pat yourself on the back. Then you may not need to offer 20K/month or more. 

 

It's only on AN for some reason that nobody ever needs to pay their gf wife anything. 

 

 

 

We're on a knife's edge. She's now saying she can't find the cream she has in Phuket here in Chiang Mai.

 

She's driving me insane.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Now she's considering if she might not be better off taking a job in Phuket, at least financially.

 

There it is...    the "pay me or I go work in a bar" - response....  

 

Shes not a bar girl, though, right ???  

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, I have met non sex workers asking for that or more.

1 - Women do not have as many high paying job options as in the west. Many jobs don't pay well.

2 - Divorce rates are high and there are many single mothers who need to raise children. And if they are from poor families, they also need to support their parents.

3 - Many women are in serious debt. Not sure about many, but I've met more than one. So you are inheriting these debts when you get hitched up. 

 

If you can marry a middle class Thai, pat yourself on the back. Then you may not need to offer 20K/month or more. 

 

It's only on AN for some reason that nobody ever needs to pay their gf wife anything. 

 

 

 

Attempt to polish the 'sex worker' lable as much as you like...    she has highlighted very clearly that she's with him 'just for money'...   white-wash it, re-name it how you like...  there is no stepping away from the fact that this girl is 'pay for play'....   

 

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

We're on a knife's edge. She's now saying she can't find the cream she has in Phuket here in Chiang Mai.

 

She's driving me insane.

 

Her exit plan - a face-saving way to slip out of her current situation. Plan C is underway.

 

(And yes, you were Plan B)

 

She’s using this “cream” as a convenient pretext to return to Phuket for whatever she’s really after.

Once she’s there, she’ll ghost you - unless she thinks she can keep you on the hook long enough to extract some cash.

 

Alternatively, you could cave in and start giving her money to keep her around - but at that point, she’s only with you for financial gain. It’s transactional, plain and simple: pay-for-play.

 

You can try to rationalise it by claiming other women expect financial support, or that husbands cover mortgages and bills. But that’s not the same as a woman who from the very start demands a salary for sex, and who negotiates a “higher wage” based on the frequency of sex.

 

There is no comparison between a 'pay-for-play girl' and a 'regular wife'. They are entirely different categories.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

This is making my life worse. I don't want to stay in the house all day.

 

my post from 18 hours ago .   pardon the repeat :    or,  rinse and repeat :

 

 

Ok faithful readers .  Cameroni here, with today's account of my activities with the girl of my dreams :

1. She hit me in the balls to wake me up .  Wanted sex .  I obliged of course, though in much pain.   

2. I told her i was hungry .  She ignored me and went back to sleep .

3. I ate some Wheaties and did some tidying up .  These girls are not so great at housekeeping .  11 o'clock and still sleeping .   wtf 

4.  I tried to sneak out for my walk,  but she caught me. Accused me of not loving her. We made love .   Not with the same passion as before.  This is a bad sign,

5.  She asked me if i could make her some kow soy .   What is that ? 

6. She started screaming at me .   I love her spunk !

7.  Now she's giving me the silent treatment again .  

Well....those are the highlites so far .   Having the time of my life .

 

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Attempt to polish the 'sex worker' lable as much as you like...    she has highlighted very clearly that she's with him 'just for money'...   white-wash it, re-name it how you like...  there is no stepping away from the fact that this girl is 'pay for play'....   

 

 

No, the puritanical crowd is in denial about how most marriages are about finances.

Back home, you think the woman doesn't look at what car you're driving before deciding to date you?

Westerners are just more sneaky about it. 

I prefer the Thai way. They'll tell you straight up how much financial support they need. 

 

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

We're on a knife's edge. She's now saying she can't find the cream she has in Phuket here in Chiang Mai.

 

She's driving me insane.

Pity  you cant just play a nice song like this and have a chat about it.  Just keep on enjoying your "French kissing trophy".  

 

 

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, the puritanical crowd is in denial about how most marriages are about finances.

Back home, you think the woman doesn't look at what car you're driving before deciding to date you?

Westerners are just more sneaky about it. 

I prefer the Thai way. They'll tell you straight up how much financial support they need. 

 

 

There’s nothing puritanical about it.

 

On one side, you’ve got people who meet at work, at uni, through friends or introductions - and they grow close because of genuine attraction.

 

On the other side, you’ve got a girl making a financial calculation, ready to walk away the moment her terms aren’t met.

 

One is a genuine relationship. The other is a transaction for sexual services.

 

If you’re dating a girl who demands money, and you try to whitewash it by comparing it to a normal relationship, that’s your choice - but let’s be honest: everyone can see what it really is, and they’re laughing behind your back because you’re trying to polish a pay-for-play arrangement and present it as something genuine.

 

Everyone knows exactly what she is.

 

7 minutes ago, rumak said:

She asked me if i could make her some kow soy .   What is that ? 

Telling. You live in Lanna land Chiang Mai and dont know what khao soi is? Seriously wow!!  Go buy it for her, you cant make it. 

 

The quote is Cameroni's not Rumak, I think forum software glitch.