51 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Go with your gut.

If you think she's better off in the states, could very well be.

Pros and cons: Education in the states is among the most expensive in the world. Return on investment varies, with some people amassing serious debts ...

Some women do very well in Thailand. Walk into pharmacies and many of them are owned by women.

Good luck with your decision.

Thank you. Where we'll be moving is an area with very good schools and teachers. All my children but one were raised in the San Antonio area and all did well in school, besides the usual nonsense kids pull, and afterwards . All are doing well in life. Son graduated college and has a pilot license. Homeowner. Daughter is an EMT. Other daughter makes facial cremes and herb remedies and does well in sales, along with her great husband who's an AC company manager. Their daughter, oldest, graduated high school with honors and is in a college on a scholarship. Other daughters are working. All have respect for the law, elders, and animals. I know women can do okay here as far as work, but we all know what chances they have with partners. Many reasons just to bring her to the states, along with mine enjoying the hobbies I have.

18 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

How do you know the financial situation of another person you are trying to put down yet again?

Just because I state that it will be hard to get 100% out of a house sale in Thailand, especially when it´s not in the person's name. Why would that be knowledge of another persons economy? Think I lost you here. Please enlighten me.

18 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

How could I forget a simple thing like that, that is also based on probability, just like the rest of life, talk to an actuary about it.

It is all so very simple to understand for the average person.

Lottery is not based on probability as it´s random. So, that was very simple. Same as playing slot machines is not based on probability. However, if you do sports betting or play poker, that is based on probability. That is pure facts, that will be very easy to understand for the average person.

What you are talking about is statistical probability, which is something some people believe exist, and that they can see a pattern in randomness. That´s just another way of fooling yourself.

23 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I paid 100% for it, and it was bought using money I brought with me, so I either can get money from her, if she wants to keep it in the family, or sue her in court for the money, where I would get the majority of what I paid, or sell it to another, or rent it out. I first have to find a rent to own back home, which isn't easy if you aren't there and only have a family member looking, in a school district, at the price I can afford, with features I need, and then arrange to move a house full of items back on a boat, bringing our child home myself, and then move, which takes time.I've already talked to my attorney.

Ok, good luck with that. I assume you already married when bought the house. If so, then it will be shared ownership. In any other case, you will just still have problem getting 100%.

7 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Lottery is not based on probability as it´s random. So, that was very simple. Same as playing slot machines is not based on probability. However, if you do sports betting or play poker, that is based on probability. That is pure facts, that will be very easy to understand for the average person.

What you are talking about is statistical probability, which is something some people believe exist, and that they can see a pattern in randomness. That´s just another way of fooling yourself.

You need to go back to school to learn about what probability is and what actuaries do.

There is no other probablility other than statistical probability, even when a person is playing black jack for instance if they are trained in basics stats they can go for the best odds each time when deciding to stick, double, fold etc based on the cards shown on the table, but stats probablility is still in play.

I wrote an iPhone app which teaches people how to play the game and the best odds (probability) when trying to decide what to do during the game of blackjack.

I could go into a lot more detail but it would be a waste of time, but I can say my first Uni degree from London was Maths, Stats and computing.

7 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Ok, good luck with that. I assume you already married when bought the house. If so, then it will be shared ownership. In any other case, you will just still have problem getting 100%.

I see your crystal ball is being used again, so funny. 😃

23 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Thank you. Where we'll be moving is an area with very good schools and teachers. All my children but one were raised in the San Antonio area and all did well in school, besides the usual nonsense kids pull, and afterwards . All are doing well in life. Son graduated college and has a pilot license. Homeowner. Daughter is an EMT. Other daughter makes facial cremes and herb remedies and does well in sales, along with her great husband who's an AC company manager. Their daughter, oldest, graduated high school with honors and is in a college on a scholarship. Other daughters are working. All have respect for the law, elders, and animals. I know women can do okay here as far as work, but we all know what chances they have with partners. Many reasons just to bring her to the states, along with mine enjoying the hobbies I have.

23 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Thank you. Where we'll be moving is an area with very good schools and teachers. All my children but one were raised in the San Antonio area and all did well in school, besides the usual nonsense kids pull, and afterwards . All are doing well in life. Son graduated college and has a pilot license. Homeowner. Daughter is an EMT. Other daughter makes facial cremes and herb remedies and does well in sales, along with her great husband who's an AC company manager. Their daughter, oldest, graduated high school with honors and is in a college on a scholarship. Other daughters are working. All have respect for the law, elders, and animals. I know women can do okay here as far as work, but we all know what chances they have with partners. Many reasons just to bring her to the states, along with mine enjoying the hobbies I have.

If I were you I would ignore Gottfied as he seems to be on your case and knows more about your life than you do through his crystal ball, after my last reply to him I will ignore him as it is just a waste of time, and I can not compete with the Crystal ball, all I have at my disposal is education , some knowledge and simple logic, that will never compete with a crystal ball. 😄

8 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

I see your crystal ball is being used again, so funny. 😃

It´s no crystal ball needed or involved. It mostly work like that in Thailand.

3 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

If I were you I would ignore Gottfied as he seems to be on your case and knows more about your life than you do through his crystal ball, after my last reply to him I will ignore him as it is just a waste of time, and I can not compete with the Crystal ball, all I have at my disposal is education , some knowledge and simple logic, that will never compete with a crystal ball. 😄

If I had a nickle for all the assumptions made here I could travel Europe.

It's hard to ignore the truth twisting but ignoring after a plain statement is best. They aren't here to discuss but troll and assume, and I've annoyed some here by wasting too much time sticking up for myself too long, trying to have them accept the truth, even though that will never happen.

People who have little in their lives besides anger and hate always try to downgrade others that are doing well, and they use what you say against you.

12 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

You need to go back to school to learn about what probability is and what actuaries do.

There is no other probablility other than statistical probability, even when a person is playing black jack for instance if they are trained in basics stats they can go for the best odds each time when deciding to stick, double, fold etc based on the cards shown on the table, but stats probablility is still in play.

I wrote an iPhone app which teaches people how to play the game and the best odds (probability) when trying to decide what to do during the game of blackjack.

I could go into a lot more detail but it would be a waste of time, but I can say my first Uni degree from London was Maths, Stats and computing.

Another Brit with a chip on his shoulder, I can read. However, even if you think you are from a superior population, you don´t get to tell me that I need to go back to school.

I tried to search for the worst joke thread, and all I got was 4 pages with links to this thread, not a single other thread showed up

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

If I had a nickle for all the assumptions made here I could travel Europe.

It's hard to ignore the truth twisting but ignoring after a plain statement is best. They aren't here to discuss but troll and assume, and I've annoyed some here by wasting too much time sticking up for myself too long, trying to have them accept the truth, even though that will never happen.

People who have little in their lives besides anger and hate always try to downgrade others that are doing well, and they use what you say against you.

Hahahahaha! That one was good. Assumptions? During over 28 years here, doing verry well, I have seen a lot of people losing most of the things they paid for when things go pear shaped. Regarding accepting the truth, you must be an oracle, as you always have the truth, and everyone else is wrong.

1 hour ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

If I were you I would ignore Gottfied

Why don´t you start and take your own advice?

2 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Hahahahaha! That one was good. Assumptions? During over 28 years here, doing verry well, I have seen a lot of people losing most of the things they paid for when things go pear shaped. Regarding accepting the truth, you must be an oracle, as you always have the truth, and everyone else is wrong.

I have to completely agree with you.

The courts rarely support the foreign guy, and when they do it's in such a way the guy never actually recovers any of his money. I've seen around 10 foreign guys lose a house or business in the past 15 years. And they're always surprised.

That's one of the reasons my wife bought her house with a 90% bank mortgage. I can afford to lose 10% of a house many times, but a whole house not so much.

7 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Hahahahaha! That one was good. Assumptions? During over 28 years here, doing verry well, I have seen a lot of people losing most of the things they paid for when things go pear shaped. Regarding accepting the truth, you must be an oracle, as you always have the truth, and everyone else is wrong.

Actually, I do always have the truth about my life, along with those very close to me. Not a need to accept it as I've lived it. Those that assume, not knowing me personally, are assuming as they haven't a clue. The same goes for me. as I don't assume anything about others and only go by what they tell me and not turn that around, because I wasn't there. Yes, those that assume are wrong.

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

That's one of the reasons my wife bought her house with a 90% bank mortgage.

Some girls, depending on their job, probably cannot get a mortgage.

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I have to completely agree with you.

The courts rarely support the foreign guy, and when they do it's in such a way the guy never actually recovers any of his money. I've seen around 10 foreign guys lose a house or business in the past 15 years. And they're always surprised.

That's one of the reasons my wife bought her house with a 90% bank mortgage. I can afford to lose 10% of a house many times, but a whole house not so much.

In any divorce here, what's bought during the marriage is 50/50, unless the house was paid for by money brought to the country by the foreigner, as in my case. Much of the time here, the woman chips in somewhat, so they are going to get a share. It all depends how much who put in, with receipts. I paid cash, 100%, so if there is a court deal, I would get most if not all of the proceeds of a sale. This is why I'm trying to do the right thing, allowing her to buy me out. If not, she will be sued, as my two lawyers have told me. The courts have to do what's right, as they have to follow the laws already there. . I've seen and heard of quite a few men getting either the house or at least 50/50 when it was sold.

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

That's one of the reasons my wife bought her house with a 90% bank mortgage. I can afford to lose 10% of a house many times, but a whole house not so much.

Not a bad idea if you don’t really trust your partner and don’t have kids.

I chose a different path and don’t have any problem with the fact that all the Thai property is in my wife’s name. I didn’t even try to get my name on any paperwork. She also kept her Thai name (actually, this made things a lot easier when she inherited some land from her father and had to transfer it into her name).

After more than 20 years together, knowing she has always stood by my side when life got difficult, she would bloody well deserve every last baht of it in the unlikely event we ever broke up. We have two kids...in the end it’s just heritage for them anyway.

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

That's one of the reasons my wife bought her house with a 90% bank mortgage. I can afford to lose 10% of a house many times, but a whole house not so much.

@BritManToo Does she pay 90% of the monthly instalment every month or is it only a safeguard for you in case of divorce? Are you married or just living together?

1 hour ago, Franck60 said:

9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

That's one of the reasons my wife bought her house with a 90% bank mortgage. I can afford to lose 10% of a house many times, but a whole house not so much.

@BritManToo Does she pay 90% of the monthly instalment every month or is it only a safeguard for you in case of divorce? Are you married or just living together?

If you consider the cost of mortgage as the cost as rent - then mentally, that cost is written off anyway.

Before I met my Wife I'd paid rent in Thailand for about 15 years - that equates to about 10 Million Baht.

Since I met my Wife - we've had two properties - one we received what we'd paid for it on sale, so it was effectively rent free - and the last for 10 years or so (with a Mortgage) about the same cost as rent would be... (that ignores the downpayment though).

Thats one hell of a long game if she's only with me to get a house !!

1 hour ago, Franck60 said:

@BritManToo Does she pay 90% of the monthly instalment every month or is it only a safeguard for you in case of divorce? Are you married or just living together?

Like Richard says, I just view it as rent.

My only extra loss was the deposite.

Married 15 years now.

5 hours ago, mangkut70 said:

Not a bad idea if you don’t really trust your partner and don’t have kids.

I chose a different path and don’t have any problem with the fact that all the Thai property is in my wife’s name. I didn’t even try to get my name on any paperwork. She also kept her Thai name (actually, this made things a lot easier when she inherited some land from her father and had to transfer it into her name).

After more than 20 years together, knowing she has always stood by my side when life got difficult, she would bloody well deserve every last baht of it in the unlikely event we ever broke up. We have two kids...in the end it’s just heritage for them anyway.

Having been divorced after 30 years of (what I thought was a happy marriage) in the UK. 20 years isn't all that significant.

I came to realise the "we've been together for xx years so I can trust her now" is a male fantasy, women don't place any value on the past (Biffault's Law), when their feelings tell them they want a new shag, you're history.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Like Richard says, I just view it as rent.

My only extra loss was the deposite.

Married 15 years now.

Asuming your place cost about 5 Million baht.

15 years of marraiage - a stella perforimer such as yourself seeing action twice a day...

Thats 590 baht a Junp... then you have house to live in and cooking and laundry on top !!!

(Cameroni maths).

14 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Actually, I do always have the truth about my life, along with those very close to me. Not a need to accept it as I've lived it. Those that assume, not knowing me personally, are assuming as they haven't a clue. The same goes for me. as I don't assume anything about others and only go by what they tell me and not turn that around, because I wasn't there. Yes, those that assume are wrong.

This has nothing to do your life, and what you experienced and lived? You always think it has to do with you, and everything is personal for you. What I am talking about here, is the problem of getting 100% from a house sale in Thailand, especially a house bought during marriage. You know, not only for you, but for everyone. Can you imagine, not only you. It´s a revelation for you, right?

14 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I have to completely agree with you.

The courts rarely support the foreign guy, and when they do it's in such a way the guy never actually recovers any of his money. I've seen around 10 foreign guys lose a house or business in the past 15 years. And they're always surprised.

That's one of the reasons my wife bought her house with a 90% bank mortgage. I can afford to lose 10% of a house many times, but a whole house not so much.

Exactly! The problem here with Freddy, is that he thinks the world is specially designed for him and everything around him is personal. There are no general things that are connected to his life. Also, he experienced everything twice before, so no need to tell him anything.

Or maybe, we should just ask him if he divorced/separated in Thailand with a house connected to that many times? More important, how many times he got back 100%? Because as he say, he only talk about thinks he has experience of, or things people already informed of and never change or turn the words. 😂

10 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

This has nothing to do your life, and what you experienced and lived? You always think it has to do with you, and everything is personal for you. What I am talking about here, is the problem of getting 100% from a house sale in Thailand, especially a house bought during marriage. You know, not only for you, but for everyone. Can you imagine, not only you. It´s a revelation for you right?

Then why are you bothering to reply to me?

6 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Exactly! The problem here with Freddy, is that he thinks the world is specially designed for him and everything around him is personal. There are no general things that are connected to his life. Also, he experienced everything twice before, so no need to tell him anything.

Or maybe, we should just ask him if he divorced/separated in Thailand with a house connected to that many times? More important, how many times he got back 100%? Because as he say, he only talk about thinks he has experience of, or things people already informed of and never change or turn the words. 😂

Of course everything around me is personal, and none of your business. Try thinking before you reply, as you are getting the same results from many others here.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Of course everything around me is personal, and none of your business. Try thinking before you reply, as you are getting the same results from many others here.

Most of us are centered around ourselves, but make it being all about everyone else ;-)

Thats pure art

Even when I saw one member making fun or was cynical against the sweede, the sweede was offended when I asked if it was him he was talking so flattering about in a ironic way with sympathy for the offended, at least my intention, I got a cold shoulder back, so

This tread is pure toxic from start to now, and will end toxic. What some people manage to say online is incredible. Low moral, low status, thats what it is, and those try to be the ones with the high moral is the worst.

Not pointing finger at you, but the tread overall

26 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Of course everything around me is personal, and none of your business. Try thinking before you reply, as you are getting the same results from many others here.

Please, get over it! I posted that it will be very hard for you to get 100% out of a house sale in Thailand. That´s not personal. That´s a fact that affects every foreigner in Thailand when thing do not turn out as expected. Instead you should think, before posted such drivel.

17 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Most of us are centered around ourselves, but make it being all about everyone else ;-)

Thats pure art

Even when I saw one member making fun or was cynical against the sweede, the sweede was offended when I asked if it was him he was talking so flattering about in a ironic way with sympathy for the offended, at least my intention, I got a cold shoulder back, so

This tread is pure toxic from start to now, and will end toxic. What some people manage to say online is incredible. Low moral, low status, thats what it is, and those try to be the ones with the high moral is the worst.

Not pointing finger at you, but the tread overall.

That's why I don't assume , nor bother getting into anyone else's life as the only thing I would know about them is what they say themselves. Some take what you say and turn it around to make themselves feel better.

Some make statements based on very little experience and think they're experts on the subject. "I know many men here who have lost their homes to the wives", ...............when It's likely one or two, and don't know anything about the particular situations besides what they told them, which could be lies or exaggerations. They assume what's going on in your life without knowing anything besides what you told them.