8 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I think your posts have been some of the most delusional on the whole thread, in particular your very obvious delusion that you are not ranked considerably beneath most girls from Isaan.

Your notion tnat you or your crypt keeper are in any way "superior" to people from Isaan is based on fantasy.

Nothing real about your posts whatsoever. What party? The one in your head with you alone? Why are you using "we"? Who do you speak for?

Total random noise based on no facts whatever, just because such 'facts' appear in your head does not make them true, but carry on as you are good for a laugh and half of Thailand are already laughing at you, keep up the good work.

"Crypt keeper" good one, funny.

I could go out an buy an nice 25 year old within ten minutes here in Phuket, of course I will not give her cash but by her clothes, smartphone, pay for her living expenses, her travel expenses and her two kids back up in Isaan, that would of course mean she is with me for free, haaaaaaaaaaaaa.

The next time I do a software contract I will ask the company to pay me in cars, holliday/living expenses and declare to the taxman I have have not been paid as no direct cash was involved, would he believe me, of course not he would fall off his chair laughing. 😀

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

A lot of women come from lower socio-economic backgrounds and never had the ability to rise to substantial wealth.

So what? If the man has money and the woman needs support, it's not inherently a problem.

It's only a problem if the demands become too exorbitant or if she ends up filing for divorce. Then, she should have some decency and return some of the value of the house... or sth.

But to suggest men should never support a woman from a lower economic strata is silly.

No problem, some guys have no choice but to select from the poor uneducated ones who just look for a guy to support them for the rest of their lives, some of us have a choice.

3 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

"Crypt keeper" good one, funny.

His best line in the whole thread?

“Varicose Crypt Keeper"...

It was pure juvenile retaliation thrown out at those whose partner happens to be of a similar... but, he’s wheeled it out more times than I used “Takoyaki-faced floozy” (and that was overused...

To be fair, he was on a roll for a while - sparring properly, trading blows but he struggled with creativity and the nastiness started leaking through. He could have kept it clever...

He had more to work with.... “Grim Reaper’s bridesmaid”..... “Carbon-dated cougar”... “Coffin-dodging Karen”, “Taxidermy trash”…

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Oh Cam, oh Cam, oh Cam... what do we do with you...

James’ experience is not some rare safari sighting - it’s just the everyday air plenty of foreginers here breathe every single day. The fact that it feels exotic, improbable, or borderline mythological to you doesn’t make it fiction - it just means your lens is fogged.

You speak as if the concept of a well-educated, financially independent Thai woman choosing a decent Westerner is akin to spotting a unicorn in Phuket. And yet - when those very same women marry Thai men from comparable social and economic tiers, no one clutches their pearls. Its quite fascinating how apparently geography is rational, but melanin and passport colour trigger disbelief in you.

If upper-tier Thai women (for want of a better phrase) can marry Thai men, is it truly so unthinkable that they might marry a competent, respectful Westerner? Or is the real stumbling block the quiet assumption that every foreign man here is either deranged, deluded, or dangling off a bar stool on Bangla Road?

Now - on Isaan. You’re right about one thing. Reducing anyone to a region is lazy thinking. Thailand, much like anywhere else, produces brilliance and mediocrity in equal measure. There are highly educated, financially independent women from Isaan who would run intellectual circles around half the blokes pontificating online.

... But... let’s not pretend reputations materialise out of thin air. A significant pipeline from Isaan to the bar scene exists. That’s not a Western fantasy - it’s widely acknowledged within Thailand itself. Generalisations may be blunt instruments, but they rarely appear without some statistical fuel.

As for James’ use of “we” - I suspect he meant those of us operating outside a full-blown state of operatic delusion.

Not saints. Not saviours. Just adults navigating reality without requiring it to conform to a comforting stereotype.

In short - the existence of normal, functional, mutually respectful Thai-Western relationships is not a fairy tale. It’s simply inconvenient to narratives such as yours that prefer tragedy, transaction, and mercenary desperation.

Cheers @richard_smith237 , that was a very good reply, much more detailed than my reply to Cannelloni, very in depth, I have run out of patience with longer replies to him comment as they are ignore and some nasty comment is posted instead, but he does make me laugh.

I don't mean to say all Isaan women are like that but it has been my experience that in 99% of cases in the past 30 years while in a bar and we got the usual "hello, where you from", question and then we asked the same question back it would be "Udon Thani, or Isaan".

The majority of the stories told to me first hand of guys being ripped off involve Isaan women, I am just stating what I have come across.

I also know lots of farangs married to successful Thai women as those are the circles I move in due to the fact like attracts like like anywhere else in the world.

Also many men know when they they are with a 'brass' as you sometimes call them and know the game and do not try and pretend they are special and when told the truth of the situation lash out at others and use terms like 'Pig Man' etc.

But Thailand is great fun and a good place to live as long as we stay on the right side of reality, one of the plain truths is no girl of 24 anywhere in the world would fancy a guy old enough to be her father, they are there for the money, simple as that.

In Phuket there is such a shortage of restaurant and other workers they now employ whole teams of people from Burma who speak English only as a second language, when I hear of many Isaan women saying they have to work in bars as there are no jobs then that is not true, the Thais for southern Thailand work in those places in Phuket, what they mean is they do not have the skills or education to get money quickly which they can do when working in girly bars, I am not being nasty when I say this but the locals hate those type of girls.

You said ...."dangling off a bar stool on Bangla Road?...."

I 'dangle' three times a year when friends who like the rush of such places come on holiday for a few days while travelling around Thailand, it can be good fun now and then.

1 minute ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Cheers @richard_smith237 , that was a very good reply, much more detailed than my reply to Cannelloni, very in depth, I have run out of patience with longer replies to him comment as they are ignore and some nasty comment is posted instead, but he does make me laugh.

I don't mean to say all Isaan women are like that but it has been my experience that in 99% of cases in the past 30 years while in a bar and we got the usual "hello, where you from", question and then we asked the same question back it would be "Udon Thani, or Isaan".

The majority of the stories told to me first hand of guys being ripped off involve Isaan women, I am just stating what I have come across.

I also know lots of farangs married to successful Thai women as those are the circles I move in due to the fact like attracts like like anywhere else in the world.

Also many men know when they they are with a 'brass' as you sometimes call them and know the game and do not try and pretend they are special and when told the truth of the situation lash out at others and use terms like 'Pig Man' etc.

But Thailand is great fun and a good place to live as long as we stay on the right side of reality, one of the plain truths is no girl of 24 anywhere in the world would fancy a guy old enough to be her father, they are there for the money, simple as that.

In Phuket there is such a shortage of restaurant and other workers they now employ whole teams of people from Burma who speak English only as a second language, when I hear of many Isaan women saying they have to work in bars as there are no jobs then that is not true, the Thais for southern Thailand work in those places in Phuket, what they mean is they do not have the skills or education to get money quickly which they can do when working in girly bars, I am not being nasty when I say this but the locals hate those type of girls.

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I think that’s a fair clarification.... James wasn’t launching a sneering critique at poor women - he was challenging the lazy narrative that educated, financially independent Thai women in relationships with Western men are some statistical anomaly. They aren’t. They exist. In noticeable numbers. Quietly. Without a neon sign.

The real criticism isn’t aimed at poverty. It’s aimed at delusion.

There’s a world of difference between a financially comfortable 55-year-old man in a relationship with a 27-year-old woman who has limited means - and both of them understanding the exchange at play, and a financially comfortable 55-year-old man insisting that a financially destitute 27-year-old woman, who openly receives money from him and has from others, is there purely because his personality after he detonated Cupid’s nuclear arsenal.

It’s not the age gap....It’s not the income gap.... It’s the theatrical insistence that none of it matters - thats amused many of us throughout this thread.

When someone with substantial resources convinces himself that a partner half his age, financially dependent, and actively benefiting from that support, is there because he is just that irresistibly magnificent - that’s where the eye-rolling begins. Not at the relationship itself, but at the self-mythology.

Now.... for those entering such arrangements with clear eyes and functioning brain cells - fair play. If he’s getting companionship, attention, maybe a bit of ego polish - and she’s getting security, lifestyle, opportunity - then it’s an arrangement between consenting adults. No outrage required. Markets have existed longer than morality lectures.

But, is Cam simply renting stability while 'Miss face for radio' is scanning the horizon for Tinder-gold.

If he knows it, accepts it, and continues anyway, then he’s not a victim. He’s a participant - its strategy.

However, the thing that really attracts criticism is the man who insists he’s the exception to every obvious incentive in the room.

Love can absolutely exist in asymmetry.... But pretending asymmetry doesn’t exist - that’s the comedy.

Yes you covered the essence of what I wanted to say very nicely.

The thing is I spend a lot of the day writing my iPhone apps as it is really interesting, keeps my brain in gear as I learn something new every day plus the extra pocket money it brings, it also beats roaming on the beach every day, suppin' beer at bars as that lost my interest a long long time ago as a way to fill the day.

But I do walk around the reservoir each day in Phuket with my partner she likes a good walk too and I have a bicycle ride every day, go out with friends now and then, visits from family from the UK and NZ.

And so I visit this site when I take breaks and so do not have that much time to go into detailed replies as the day goes by in a flash.

But you seem to be doing a good job of that and we all find your comments hilarious, very logical, you are a master pisssss taker.

Well not everyone feels that way about your comments as we can see now and then.😃

I find it funny when I write something which is based on my opinion and is not nasty but does not fit in with other peoples view of how life in Thailand is and they try and drown me with the negative down thumb icons, that is even funnier as they would in no way annoy me.

On 3/2/2026 at 12:01 PM, TedG said:

It seems like a win-win for both sides. The older man gets to enjoy the company of a younger woman for a while, and the young woman receives a financial reward. Both are satisfied in the end.

There are plenty of gold diggers in the West.

Except it's not win-win.

Especially not when she’s doing stuff behind your back in a language you can’t even understand.

Pretty sure that’s what’s going on with Cameroni right now. I've dated some really sharp, intelligent women in Thailand. One thing they all had in common is that their parents are genuinely good, decent people. Cameroni never meets anyone. They never invite him to their place. The only invite he gets from the "mother in law" is the QR code for money transfer.

6 hours ago, Celsius said:

Except it's not win-win.

Especially not when she’s doing stuff behind your back in a language you can’t even understand.

Pretty sure that’s what’s going on with Cameroni right now. I've dated some really sharp, intelligent women in Thailand. One thing they all had in common is that their parents are genuinely good, decent people. Cameroni never meets anyone. They never invite him to their place. The only invite he gets from the "mother in law" is the QR code for money transfer.

Totally agree, for a world class lawyer he is not that bright. I would not let him precide over a parking ticket for me .

15 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

If upper-tier Thai women (for want of a better phrase) can marry Thai men, is it truly so unthinkable that they might marry a competent, respectful Westerner? Or is the real stumbling block the quiet assumption that every foreign man here is either deranged, deluded, or dangling off a bar stool on Bangla Road?

This thread was not meant to be a platform for decrepit nobodies who are stuck in passion-less LTRs with women well past their prime, and consequently have developed an obsession with prostitution, pay4play, pegging, ladyboys and various other deviant practices in order to pep up their empty and passsion-less lives, and in addition feel the need to deposit their superiority fantasies on here like excrement. The issue is not that all foreigners are deranged, but rather that your little pom pom waving cheerleader James has infected this thread with his Julius Streicher like superiority fantasies regarding the good people of Isaan, for whom you're now playing a loyal Alfred Rosenberg. Though it's actually an insult to the Nazis to compare the third rate drivel James is espousing here as some kind comparable logic, at least they put serious academic effort into their delusion.

Just as Nazi racial theories have now been made thoroughly obsolete by the gene clusters of Cavalli-Sforza, we are hardly in a position to accept the Julius Streicher type caricatures James has painted of all Isaan women as gold-digging prostitutes.

I see you seek to perpetuate a similar line of reasoning, arguing that "Oh well, this narrative has developed so it's got to be true". However, when one looks closer at this pile of excrement you and James are selling as a cogent argument, in actual fact we immediately see it for what it is, yet another superiority fantasy based on literally nothing but the fragile ego trying to assert its non-existent superiority. For we all know that the only reason girls from Isaan are found in Patong, Nana and Soi 6 is simply poverty, no inherent propensity for anything on the part of Isaan girls. Simple economics.

Just as in the West people have asserted that all Russian women are whores, using an equally misplaced arrogance and superiority delusion, when in fact Russian women are more intelligent, more beautiful and far more big hearted than British, German or French women, this vile prejudice against Isaan girls as all being whores is equally based on nothing but an inferiority complex. For at the heart of it lies an attempt by people like James to assert a non-existent superiority on the basis of "my girl is not from Isaan, therefore I'm better than you".

A more idiotic and inaccurate claim one could not make. But then he, like some others on this thread, have been in LTRs for ages, and have virtually non-existent experience with women, apart from one woman. It's like that one guy claiming he just tasted an apple and it's amazing, you can't actually trust him, because he only had one apple, you should listen to a guy who has had many different apples. Only he can decide what "upper tier women" really are, as he has had experience of many different women, and I can assure you whether a woman is an "upper tier woman" has nothing to do with whether she comes from Bangkok, Isaan or Surat Thani.

In fact Isaan has given Thailand the very basis of its cuisine, Som Tum, Kai Yang, sticky rice ,Larb, some of the most famous music of Thailand comes from Isaan, the finest silks come from Isaan, not to mention the fact that labour from Isaan keeps Thailand running, not just in the sex trade, but virtually every industry in the Kingdom. Not to mention that some of the finest most beautiful women come from the Isaan region, so you can tell your little cheerleader hating on Isaan girls to put a sock in it.

This is 2026, it's not Nazi Germany, and James' superiority complex is about as accurate as the one the Nazis had, less actually, and we now know it is purely economic reasons that cause the presence of Isaan girls in the sex trade, which btw is populated by girls from all over Thailand, Russia, Africa etc. Nor is this India's caste system, where "upper tier women" are found only in Bangkok as the daugthers of priests or some such fantasy.

Whether a woman is "upper tier" or not, you are in no position to know, until considerable time has passed, in most cases anyway. Plus my criteria for "upper tier" will almost certainly be different to yours and James', since you're both living with women nearing menopause.

But it's funny, you see p4play where there is none, and James sees some kind of moral superiority in his 45 year old menopausal Bangkok woman, I hope you both made yourselves feel better, but for those of us who can see through the psychological animus of both your facile, inaccurate fantasies, frankly you're both just ridiculous. It's particularly ludicrous to me, as I've actually been on first name basis with UK government ministers, by virtue of my work in the most prestigious law firms in the City, and I've seen how "upper tier" English people behave. Not very well, actually.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

This thread was not meant to be a platform for decrepit nobodies who are stuck in passion-less LTRs with women well past their prime, and consequently have developed an obsession with prostitution, pay4play, pegging, ladyboys and various other deviant practices in order to pep up their empty and passsion-less lives, and in addition feel the need to deposit their superiority fantasies on here like excrement. The issue is not that all foreigners are deranged, but rather that your little pom pom waving cheerleader James has infected this thread with his Julius Streicher like superiority fantasies regarding the good people of Isaan, for whom you're now playing a loyal Alfred Rosenberg. Though it's actually an insult to the Nazis to compare the third rate drivel James is espousing here as some kind comparable logic, at least they put serious academic effort into their delusion.

Just as Nazi racial theories have now been made thoroughly obsolete by the gene clusters of Cavalli-Sforza, we are hardly in a position to accept the Julius Streicher type caricatures James has painted of all Isaan women as gold-digging prostitutes.

I see you seek to perpetuate a similar line of reasoning, arguing that "Oh well, this narrative has developed so it's got to be true". However, when one looks closer at this pile of excrement you and James are selling as a cogent argument, in actual fact we immediately see it for what it is, yet another superiority fantasy based on literally nothing but the fragile ego trying to assert its non-existent superiority. For we all know that the only reason girls from Isaan are found in Patong, Nana and Soi 6 is simply poverty, no inherent propensity for anything on the part of Isaan girls. Simple economics.

Just as in the West people have asserted that all Russian women are whores, using an equally misplaced arrogance and superiority delusion, when in fact Russian women are more intelligent, more beautiful and far more big hearted than British, German or French women, this vile prejudice against Isaan girls as all being whores is equally based on nothing but an inferiority complex. For at the heart of it lies an attempt by people like James to assert a non-existent superiority on the basis of "my girl is not from Isaan, therefore I'm better than you".

A more idiotic and inaccurate claim one could not make. But then he, like some others on this thread, have been in LTRs for ages, and have virtually non-existent experience with women, apart from one woman. It's like that one guy claiming he just tasted an apple and it's amazing, you can't actually trust him, because he only had one apple, you should listen to a guy who has had many different apples. Only he can decide what "upper tier women" really are, as he has had experience of many different women, and I can assure you whether a woman is an "upper tier woman" has nothing to do with whether she comes from Bangkok, Isaan or Surat Thani.

In fact Isaan has given Thailand the very basis of its cuisine, Som Tum, Kai Yang, sticky rice ,Larb, some of the most famous music of Thailand comes from Isaan, the finest silks come from Isaan, not to mention the fact that labour from Isaan keeps Thailand running, not just in the sex trade, but virtually every industry in the Kingdom. Not to mention that some of the finest most beautiful women come from the Isaan region, so you can tell your little cheerleader hating on Isaan girls to put a sock in it.

This is 2026, it's not Nazi Germany, and James' superiority complex is about as accurate as the one the Nazis had, less actually, and we now know it is purely economic reasons that cause the presence of Isaan girls in the sex trade, which btw is populated by girls from all over Thailand, Russia, Africa etc. Nor is this India's caste system, where "upper tier women" are found only in Bangkok as the daugthers of priests or some such fantasy.

Whether a woman is "upper tier" or not, you are in no position to know, until considerable time has passed, in most cases anyway. Plus my criteria for "upper tier" will almost certainly be different to yours and James', since you're both living with women nearing menopause.

But it's funny, you see p4play where there is none, and James sees some kind of moral superiority in his 45 year old menopausal Bangkok woman, I hope you both made yourselves feel better, but for those of us who can see through the psychological animus of both your facile, inaccurate fantasies, frankly you're both just ridiculous. It's particularly ludicrous to me, as I've actually been on first name basis with UK government ministers, by virtue of my work in the most prestigious law firms in the City, and I've seen how "upper tier" English people behave. Not very well, actually.

I can see you put some good thought into that - great effort !

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Whether a woman is "upper tier" or not, you are in no position to know, until considerable time has passed, in most cases anyway. Plus my criteria for "upper tier" will almost certainly be different to yours and James', since you're both living with women nearing menopause.

Does your 'criteria' include "must come with inflate to 200psi" instructions tatted in the inside of her lips ?

... or 'potential for barefoot waterskiing excellence'.... or is simply... 'has a pulse and will f... for a salary' ?

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

by virtue of my work in the most prestigious law firms in the City,

No one believes you were a lawyer... particularly with Tilleke & Gibbins or similar... or a kickboxing champ !!...

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

and I've seen how "upper tier" English people behave. Not very well, actually.

On that we agree, for some of them, not the sweeping generalisation that you've applied to all.

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Does your 'criteria' include "must come with inflate to 200psi" instructions tatted in the inside of her lips ?

Actually full lips is one of my key criteria for physical beauty, quite right. Since Kim Basinger, always loved it.

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

No one believes you were a lawyer... particularly with Tilleke & Gibbins or similar... or a kickboxing champ !!...

Up to you, but I've never claimed to be a "kick boxing champ". I did however work in the City's most prestigious law firms and I was on first name basis with a UK government minister as a result of it. I have seen upper tier English people, and I was not impressed. Some of the Isaan girls I met, however, were delightful in many ways.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

I can see you put some good thought into that - great effort !

Does your 'criteria' include "must come with inflate to 200psi" instructions tatted in the inside of her lips ?

... or 'potential for barefoot waterskiing excellence'.... or is simply... 'has a pulse and will f... for a salary' ?

No one believes you were a lawyer... particularly with Tilleke & Gibbins or similar... or a kickboxing champ !!...

On that we agree, for some of them, not the sweeping generalisation that you've applied to all.

I didn't bother replying directly to Cameronis rant, when someone mentions Nazis completely out of the blue, or goes on about Russians and accuses of us of saying things about Russians which we have not said, then goes on about menopausal women we know he is completely nuts.

I have mentioned Russians in other discussions but in order to defend them as the Russians I see in Phuket mostly consist decent looking Russian man, wife and kids, they all seem to be nice people as far as I can see, in fact I was talking and dancing with a Russian woman at a party probably a month ago, very educated, pleasant and friendly, after all they did put the first man into space, who is calling them dumb and stupid, certainly not us?

I have no experience with women from Isaan apart from the, "Hello where do you come from" in bars in the past, what I am told about them is via Thai people who do not see them in a very good light, so that must mean it is the non-Isaan-Thais who are the Nazis as it is they who look down on them. But we know there are no Nazis anymore, this is all part of Cameroni's mind.

As I have said before, if Cameroni was to act as my defence lawyer in a court and the charge was speeding down the M1, the judge would be so frustrated with the illogical, confused, self contradictions coming out of Cameroni and so would sentence me to prison for a long time as Cameroni would have convinced the judge I committed armed robbery. 😃

Oh and I just glanced at my bank account as I paid for something online, yes, I could get a 25 year old in a shot, but if I was to buy one I would not go for a Mick Jagger style face with feet that require no skis on a down hill Swiss mountain race.

Also, I would know she is not with me for the good looks and charm which I had in my younger days but realise those days are well past and know the deal is purely based on money.

Maybe the whole thing is, he is afraid to realise he is old and is trying to hide this by pretending the 25 year old wants him for who he is.

Maybe he is in a post-midlife-crisis.

Life can still be good at this age, we can go out and enjoy ourselves, walk, ride bikes, have real friends, parties etc but lets not kid ourselves we have the pulling power over women as we had in our youth, that is just plain silly.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Actually full lips is one of my key criteria for physical beauty, quite right. Since Kim Basinger, always loved it.

Calling those "full lips" is like saying a blue whale has a "full figure".

I did however work in the City's most prestigious law firms and I was on first name basis with a UK government minister as a result of it. I have seen upper tier English people, and I was not impressed.

Wow, I am in awe!! First name terms with an unnamed government minister of unnamed status no less !

Did you go to Epstein Island? Did Jeffrey cater for frankenfooted puffer fish fantasies too? I guess he had something for everyone....

55 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Maybe the whole thing is, he is afraid to realise he is old and is trying to hide this by pretending the 25 year old wants him for who he is.

If most people chose partners "for who they are", the divorce rates wouldn't be so high.

Even if it's not a "sugar daddy" arrangement, doesn't mean it isn't flawed in other ways.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Actually full lips is one of my key criteria for physical beauty, quite right.

Well... you knocked one out the park there...

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Since Kim Basinger, always loved it.

There's a resemblance thats for sure... don't go having a sly shuftie on us now...

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Wow, I am in awe!! First name terms with an unnamed government minister of unnamed status no less !

Well, obviously, I would be too, it is rather impressive, I know, but then you would hardly expect me to name the minister in question, as that would identify me personally, as it would reveal the law firm I worked at.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Did you go to Epstein Island?

Sadly not, but I can see you're fitting right in with the ludicrous fantasies peddled by Richard and James, also bored as hell shacked up with a cryptkeeper who's past it then?

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

If most people chose partners "for who they are", the divorce rates wouldn't be so high.

Even if it's not a "sugar daddy" arrangement, doesn't mean it isn't flawed in other ways.

First of all, I'm not old, I'm in my early fifties. And unlike Richard, I'm genetically blessed and still get plenty of looks, also from younger Thai girls, just saw it today again.

Secondly, psychologists have now concluded there is no such thing as a "midlife-crisis" anyway.

Thirdly, it's laughable to call the beautiful love affair I am currently living a "sugar daddy arrangement", it just makes me laugh.

Anyway, I hope you will not be stuck in a long term loveless, boring LTR, like James and a few others on here. If you are, just get out. It can be done. Life can be great.

17 hours ago, Celsius said:

Except it's not win-win.

Especially not when she’s doing stuff behind your back in a language you can’t even understand.

Pretty sure that’s what’s going on with Cameroni right now. I've dated some really sharp, intelligent women in Thailand. One thing they all had in common is that their parents are genuinely good, decent people. Cameroni never meets anyone. They never invite him to their place. The only invite he gets from the "mother in law" is the QR code for money transfer.

I was invited to meet her mother. We'll be going fairly soon.

I never meet anyone? Lol, this from the arthritic loner holed up in some God-forsaken Canadian suburb where mosquitos go to die. Hailing his 55 year old has been as a full on 10. Because her business degree is so sexy. Lol. You do make me laugh at least.

29 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Well... you knocked one out the park there...

I know, she's a total stunner, Richard. That's the only thing that worries me, with her being a 9.5 her optionality is so high, she's unforgiving on small issues. It's hard. You have to be at your best.

Just now, Cameroni said:

Well, obviously, I would be too, it is rather impressive, I know, but then you would hardly expect me to name the minister in question, as that would identify me personally, as it would reveal the law firm I worked at.

Sadly not, but I can see you're fitting right in with the ludicrous fantasies peddled by Richard and James, also bored as hell shacked up with a cryptkeeper who's past it then?

To be fair to you, Cam, the things you’re claiming are not inherently unbelievable. It is entirely conceivable that a foreigner in Thailand once worked at a prestigious law firm, or that they were on first-name terms with government ministers and officials. None of that is beyond the realms of possibility.

It’s equally conceivable that foreigners here mix with - and date - well-to-do Thais. Plenty of people on this forum do. Thailand is not a feudal kingdom with velvet ropes separating the locals from the foreigners.

The point is this: there is a whole spectrum of people on this forum. Different backgrounds, different careers, different social circles. Most people grasp that reality quite easily. The difficulty arises because you seem to compress that spectrum into something oddly selective - as though foreigners dating or marrying people you personally might consider “out of their reach” is simply impossible.

But the real reason people are starting to question your story isn’t the claims themselves.

It’s the behaviour surrounding them. Throughout this thread you’ve displayed a level of gullibility and lack of judgement that sits rather awkwardly beside the image you’re presenting. People find it difficult to reconcile the idea of someone sufficiently educated to work at a prestigious law firm - someone supposedly comfortable among senior government figures - with someone who repeatedly wanders into situations that appear, to most observers, obviously questionable.

That’s the contrast in your narrative. It’s not that your achievements sound too grand. It’s that your decision-making sounds too questionable.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I was invited to meet her mother. We'll be going fairly soon.

Don't forget about the kids papa...

... when are you going ? - this is going to be brilliant !!!

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

It’s equally conceivable that foreigners here mix with - and date - well-to-do Thais. Plenty of people on this forum do. Thailand is not a feudal kingdom with velvet ropes separating the locals from the foreigners.

I don't see the relevance of this. Sure there are well to do Thai women, who have money. How this makes them in any way "upper tier" is what I struggle to understand. I've met and dated women who have their own business in Thailand, who had money. I was not impressed.

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

as though foreigners dating or marrying people you personally might consider “out of their reach” is simply impossible.

Why would I consider well to do Thai women out of reach for anyhone? Obviously they're not. They're just as keen to date guys, as any other girl. There is just nothing inherently better, or more "upper tier" about a Thai woman, just because she has money. I find this logic odd and bizarre.

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

you’ve displayed a level of gullibility and lack of judgement that sits rather awkwardly beside the image you’re presenting.

Far too early to say, as Zhou Enlai said.

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

difficult to reconcile the idea of someone sufficiently educated to work at a prestigious law firm - someone supposedly comfortable among senior government figures - with someone who repeatedly wanders into situations that appear, to most observers, obviously questionable.

That’s the contrast in your narrative. It’s not that your achievements sound too grand. It’s that your decision-making sounds too questionable.

Quite right, I haven't really achieved much. Sure, I became a lawyer, passed law school and worked at top firms, and happened to be a trainee of a lawyer who became a minister, hardly much of an achievement reallly. And nobody is more surprised than me that I worked for the firms I worked at. I didn't claim anything grand really.

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I was invited to meet her mother. We'll be going fairly soon.

I never meet anyone? Lol, this from the arthritic loner holed up in some God-forsaken Canadian suburb where mosquitos go to die. Hailing his 55 year old has been as a full on 10. Because her business degree is so sexy. Lol. You do make me laugh at least.

Not a suburb. My condo is located on the lake in downtown Toronto and I have a nice wife who has her own money and doesn't need to beg from sex tourists in Thailand or Canada. Enjoy the view and the fact you will never be loved.

Did you save the QR code?

4 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Not a suburb. My condo is located on the lake in downtown Toronto and I have a nice wife who has her own money and doesn't need to beg from sex tourists in Thailand or Canada. Enjoy the view and the fact you will never be loved.

Did you save the QR code?

55yo is considered old in Thailand.

2 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

55yo is considered old in Thailand.

What are you trying to say?

34 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I know, she's a total stunner, Richard. That's the only thing that worries me, with her being a 9.5 her optionality is so high, she's unforgiving on small issues. It's hard. You have to be at your best.

The girl with the lips is a 9.5 ?

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

First of all, I'm not old, I'm in my early fifties. And unlike Richard, I'm genetically blessed and still get plenty of looks, also from younger Thai girls, just saw it today again.

Secondly, psychologists have now concluded there is no such thing as a "midlife-crisis" anyway.

Thirdly, it's laughable to call the beautiful love affair I am currently living a "sugar daddy arrangement", it just makes me laugh.

Anyway, I hope you will not be stuck in a long term loveless, boring LTR, like James and a few others on here. If you are, just get out. It can be done. Life can be great.

So funny, "boring long term relationship loveless relations ship", you do know how to invent things, you should write children's books as a career. 😃

In my case I am fully financially independent as is my long term partner, she or I could leave at any time we wish, we are just having such a good time being together it is great fun even after all of this time.

The qualities of loyalty, friendship, honesty and the rest never fade, relationships like yours based on money, control, mistrust and the rest do not last long, that type of life is not for me and most other people, people do not stay together because they are forced to, they do it as they love that life, it is something you will never comprehend in a lifetime.

You said, "First of all, I'm not old, I'm in my early fifties. And unlike Richard, I'm genetically blessed and still get plenty of looks, also from younger Thai girls, just saw it today again." (and later directed such comment to me).

There is one simple test to prove that, let us see if one of these lovely young women want to stay with you if you tell them you will not pay for their travel expenses, their day to day living costs, their 'pocket money', mobile phones, clothes and the rest, that is the only real test, any one of us can buy a 24 year old woman at any time if we wished, if we were desperate enough.

And what's with the show off of how your met government employees etc, I met loads of them when voting at Oxford University over the decades where in those days we would have to go in person to vote for a new chancellor etc.

I could also meet up with ex-prime ministers of Thailand, top business and other officials if I took up the offer of the invites I get each year to the Oxford_Cambridge group in Bangkok for their annual Christmas dinner, I have yet to accept.

I bet many of us could band about such claims, but that does not make you or I important.

Now let us see your next funny reply which will make us all laugh where you ignore the points I made and go into a mad tirade of attempted insults and make up claims about us which do not exist, they will make us fall off our chairs even faster than we normally do. 👍

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I don't see the relevance of this. Sure there are well to do Thai women, who have money. How this makes them in any way "upper tier" is what I struggle to understand.

I'd tend to agree - the use of the term 'upper' tier is to label their socio-educational-economic status - its a qualifier to identify rather than a measurement of character.

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I've met and dated women who have their own business in Thailand, who had money. I was not impressed.

They wouldn't let you control them and check your phone ? They had options so didn't need to put up with being controlled ?

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Why would I consider well to do Thai women out of reach for anyhone? Obviously they're not. They're just as keen to date guys, as any other girl.

Throughout this thread - you've claimed people who date financially independent women to be fabricating a story - make your mind up.

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

There is just nothing inherently better, or more "upper tier" about a Thai woman, just because she has money. I find this logic odd and bizarre.

Agreed - socio-educational-economic status is not a measure of character. Neither is judging a woman who is desperate to sleep with a man for money - however, what is bizare is the person who fails at a fundamentally basic level to identify this dynamic.

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Far too early to say, as Zhou Enlai said.

Others might suggest 200 pages too late !!!

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Quite right, I haven't really achieved much. Sure, I became a lawyer, passed law school and worked at top firms, and happened to be a trainee of a lawyer who became a minister, hardly much of an achievement reallly. And nobody is more surprised than me that I worked for the firms I worked at. I didn't claim anything grand really.

Yet you made such claims repeatedly...

4 minutes ago, blaze master said:

The girl with the lips is a 9.5 ?

Maybe Cameroni needs reminding. I got some of her best pictures from thaifriendly where she tries to make an impression.

25 minutes ago, Celsius said:

and I have a nice wife who has her own money and doesn't need to beg from sex tourists in Thailand or Canada.

Well, nobody would want to have sex with her.

As you well know.

The poor woman is about to go through menopause.

22 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

55yo is considered old in Thailand.

Fair enough. But did you know Cristina Applegate and Brad Pitt used to date? Have you seen her lately? Have you seen what Brad Pitt looks like? Whom he is dating?

Men who are good looking have a massively longer shelf life. Life favours us. Time is on our side.

Sorry, but that's the truth.