2 hours ago, Emdog said:

I moved here in 2001... exchange rate was stable around 40 baht to the buck.

100 baht was $2.50, not around $3.00 now (numbers from countryeconomy.com)

01/19/2001	40.5460	-0.58%
01/18/2001	40.7823	0.69%
01/17/2001	40.5015	-0.68%
01/16/2001	40.7803	-0.57%
01/15/2001	41.0137	-1.23%
01/12/2001	41.5236	0.52%
01/11/2001	41.3089	1.58%

Since year 2007 (for 19 years already), the rate is very stable in the range 30 to 36 per 1 US dollar. The current rate of 32.6 is pretty normal.

Thailand is happily welcoming them all and don't realize that attracting certain demographics, will scare other demographics away.

2 hours ago, treetops said:

 

Hardly the same as your initial claim which was:

 

 

Written as fact with nothing rough, approximate or averaged about it, but good effort all the same.

You’re wrong. My initial claim was that the current rate of around 32.5 baht per USD is quite “normal” when you look at the exchange rate history over the past 20 years — not that it (the rate) has never moved outside the 31–35 range.

19 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

You been racist long ?

What do you prefer? ...drunken Aussie bogans with singlets yahoooing and looking for a fight ?

Look at them the wrong way and they are spoiling for a fight 

 

I will take the Indians any day over Aussie louts and bogans      

I've never had a problem with Aussies.

18 minutes ago, Xonax said:

Thailand is happily welcoming them all and don't realize that attracting certain demographics, will scare other demographics away.

The problem is that Westerners now make up only about 15% of all tourists in Thailand. The time when Thai tourism relied mainly on this group is long gone and will never return.

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Pattaya, once the bustling nightlife epicenter of Southeast Asia, is experiencing significant changes in its after-dark scene. While bars and live music still thrive, many long-term foreign visitors note a dramatic shift in the atmosphere and the clientele. On social media, both tourists and residents voice concerns about these changes.

TAT's ambition to bring in huge numbers has back-fired, on the dregs have come, and with it the trouble

38 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

You’re wrong. My initial claim was that the current rate of around 32.5 baht per USD is quite “normal” when you look at the exchange rate history over the past 20 years — not that it (the rate) has never moved outside the 31–35 range.

 

I quoted your initial claim and that was not it.

 

Perhaps English isn't your first language and if so lets put it down to your statement not coming across too well.  However, if it is, then you really need to stop trying to justify your error.

15 minutes ago, treetops said:

 

I quoted your initial claim and that was not it.

 

Perhaps English isn't your first language and if so lets put it down to your statement not coming across too well.  However, if it is, then you really need to stop trying to justify your error.

Please, find and read my first post in this thread. You only quoted part of it. Try to disprove my main argument.

I shed no tears for the fat sixty-something westerner sex-pat going extinct in Pattaya. There's no denying the Indian crowd has made the walking street hard to recognize. The problem is simply when one demographic makes others stay away.

9 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

Please, find and read my first post in this thread. You only quoted part of it. Try to disprove my main argument.

 

Here it is in full.

 

Quote

The Thai baht has been moving in the range of 31–35 per U.S. dollar for the last twenty years, and it’s around 32.5 now. So what’s with all the nonstop whining about the “strong baht”? I’m really tired of reading how it supposedly kills tourism and everything else

 

I addressed the first sentence which has been proven wrong, although I refrained from calling you a fool as another poster did when posting the data that disproved that sentence.  I'm getting close to it now however.

 

I actually agree (for various reasons) that to a certain extent that there is excessive whining and your comment on tourism being killed, but again, they were not the points I was addressing.

 

I'm out of here now unless it's with an emoji or two as I think we're going in circles.

 

20 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

It's changing because the younger generation are not into paying for sex and also the party scene is much different expectations now 

 

It's a generational change 

 

I wonder what effect it'll have for all the hookers and their families?

 

It'll be back to minimum wage for them, lol

20 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

I did a few days in Pattaya two weeks ago. Spent one night doing Walking Street. I'd say roughly 70% Indian, 10-20% Chinese (you can tell by the way they wear the same brightly colored hats following a flag carried by a guide). Cut that night short.

Has been like this for a least 10 to 15 years. 10 years ago it would have been 70 % Chinese and 20 % Indian. 

7 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

I wonder what effect it'll have for all the hookers and their families?

 

It'll be back to minimum wage for them, lol

You would think that this would bring down the rates for sex services. The opposite has happened. 

13 minutes ago, treetops said:

 

Here it is in full.

 

 

I addressed the first sentence which has been proven wrong, although I refrained from calling you a fool as another poster did when posting the data that disproved that sentence.  I'm getting close to it now however.

 

I actually agree (for various reasons) that to a certain extent that there is excessive whining and your comment on tourism being killed, but again, they were not the points I was addressing.

 

I'm out of here now unless it's with an emoji or two as I think we're going in circles.

 

 Disproving specific sentences while ignoring the main argument is nothing but a demagogical tactic. I need to repeat: my main point was that the current rate is fairly “normal” from a historical perspective. The average yearly rates from 2007 to 2025 that I cited sufficiently support this claim. Now, leave me alone, please.

3 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

You would think that this would bring down the rates for sex services. The opposite has happened. 

 

Just wait, it's a bubble

11 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

I wonder what effect it'll have for all the hookers and their families?

 

It'll be back to minimum wage for them, lol

Will people still payforplay as much in 20 years?

19 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Will people still payforplay as much in 20 years?

Doubt it, most people will have sex with supersexy Androids. They don't have sagging boobs and stretchmarks. 

I avoid walking street now days, over priced compared to what it once was. If you want to avoid the Indian/Chinese crowds try the bars around soi buakua LK Metro area or Treetown.

21 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

You been racist long ?

What do you prefer? ...drunken Aussie bogans with singlets yahoooing and looking for a fight ?

Look at them the wrong way and they are spoiling for a fight 

 

I will take the Indians any day over Aussie louts and bogans      

 

You are a cloth head, you just troll and look for someone to bite.

 

His post makes far more sense that a lot of the drivel you subject us all to.

16 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

Doubt it, most people will have sex with supersexy Androids. They don't have sagging boobs and stretchmarks. 

 

@georgegeorgia

16 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

Doubt it, most people will have sex with supersexy Androids. They don't have sagging boobs and stretchmarks. 

I bet @georgegeorgia does!

59 minutes ago, robert2 said:

I shed no tears for the fat sixty-something westerner sex-pat going extinct in Pattaya. There's no denying the Indian crowd has made the walking street hard to recognize. The problem is simply when one demographic makes others stay away.

 

I find the whole scene a bit repulsive.

 

Sixty plus something's running around thinking 21-year-old girls love them.

 

Sitting on bar stools talking about last nights' conquests '

 

A bit silly really, IMHO.

46 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

 Now, leave me alone, please.

 

🤡🤡🤡

20 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

Also

 

Isn't the term bogan a pejorative?

 

Yes, but it's a good one 555

18 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

Maybe try to get your facts straight before making a fool of yourself. This is only the last 10 years.

 

Agreed.

Same with the UKP. Hovering around the 42 level for several years.

Of course prices in Baht have increased recently, bur where in the world haven't they?

12 hours ago, chawbdurian said:

Was anyone surprised that Sodom and Gomorrah received their fate?

Aren't they characters in a conspiracy theory / fairy tale called religion?🤔

26 minutes ago, barmatt said:

I avoid walking street now days, over priced compared to what it once was. If you want to avoid the Indian/Chinese crowds try the bars around soi buakua LK Metro area or Treetown.

Quite so. I've avoided WS for some years now, except for 1 or 2 visits in a 2 month trip, or on my way to the Bamboo Bar 😊

Worth noting, WS is not Pattaya in its entirety, never really was but the journalists imply that it is.

The areas you mention and a few others are very different and all within a 10 Baht ride from WS.

27 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

I find the whole scene a bit repulsive.

 

Sixty plus something's running around thinking 21-year-old girls love them.

 

Sitting on bar stools talking about last nights' conquests '

 

A bit silly really, IMHO.

Yes Scouse I agree .. absolutely disgusting isn't it !

You just stick with your 73yo wife , you are both happy sitting in your rocking chairs with a blanket watching re-runs of Coronation Street eating chocolate 

 

 

23 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

You been racist long ?

What do you prefer? ...drunken Aussie bogans with singlets yahoooing and looking for a fight ?

Look at them the wrong way and they are spoiling for a fight 

 

I will take the Indians any day over Aussie louts and bogans      

Not a single thing he said was racist. He made an observation that he mainly saw Indians and Chinese, which of you have been to pattaya recently is 100% correct 

23 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

You been racist long ?

What do you prefer? ...drunken Aussie bogans with singlets yahoooing and looking for a fight ?

Look at them the wrong way and they are spoiling for a fight 

 

I will take the Indians any day over Aussie louts and bogans      

You must not own a business in Thailand then. Indians spend next to nothing (except on straws) chinese stick to chinese owned businesses and do not contribute to the thai economy. The indians and arabs have ruined walking street. Got their own nightclubs where white farangs are not welcome. So who’s being racist now.