1 hour ago, TedG said:

I don’t understand why the left loves Brennan so much.  He lied to congress about spying on the Senate.  
 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/3864515/how-john-brennan-lied-to-congress/

 

Also, read this link:

 

 

https://open.substack.com/pub/taibbi/p/meet-the-man-who-inspired-former?r=qaup1&utm_medium=ios

Lied?

 

I know the situation you talk about.

 

When Feinstein's staff had access to agency computers, they were unaware that EVERY single person who accesses, or tries to access anything on the agency system, is followed by a built-in program. It is totally out of human control. It's part of the "need to know" system.

 

Feinstein's people tried accessing things far different from what they were authorized to access, and the system noted their attempts.

 

Feinstein was already suffering from cognitive decline at that time, and she lacked the ability to understand what John told her.

 

As an agency employee, if one tries to access anything outside of their direct responsibility, the system notes it. Repeated attempts come to the attention of the Security Office, who then passes that knowledge to CIMC (Counter Intelligence Mission C enter). The Chief of CIMC then makes a determination as to whether that officer should be questioned, or if the attempted access is somehow peripheral to the officer's job. That is one process the agency uses to uncover moles. If it is way out of bounds, the officer is questioned by Security, and even swirled.

 

Feinstein's Congressional staffers tried to find names of clandestine assets, search for things like "UFOs", etc. They had no authority to do so, and the system itself---not Brennan nor any human being in the agency had any control over what the system is designed to do.

 

There is strict compartmentalization in the agency, as only those who need to know something are read in. A perfect example is the Russia investigation, where John also set up a Bigot List to note every single person who had any knowledge of that intel, all of which was moved from the agency to the bureau (as if involved a US Person). Durham had access to the Bigot List and interviewed every single agency person on it. Nobody at the agency was found by Durham to have done anything wrong.

 

Finally, as DCI, Brennan would not even have been involved in any depth with the discussions back then with Feinstein. That would have been below him and handled by the ExDir or CIMC Chief or Security.

 

Just because something appears in the media does not mean it is true or a complete story. I thought MAGAs inherently held mistrust for legacy media....well, unless it serves their purpose.

 

Odd how concerned MAGAs are with things about which they know nothing, yet give Trump a pass for stealing classified documents and keeping them (including HCS-HUman Clandestine Sources) at his wedding event facility and country club.

36 minutes ago, TedG said:

He should be prosecuted for spying on the Senate and lying about it.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/a-brief-history-of-the-cias-unpunished-spying-on-the-senate/384003/

Maybe he should be but I suspect that statute of limitations considerations might rule that out.

5 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Lied?

 

I know the situation you talk about.

 

When Feinstein's staff had access to agency computers, they were unaware that EVERY single person who accesses, or tries to access anything on the agency system, is followed by a built-in program. It is totally out of human control. It's part of the "need to know" system.

 

Feinstein's people tried accessing things far different from what they were authorized to access, and the system noted their attempts.

 

Feinstein was already suffering from cognitive decline at that time, and she lacked the ability to understand what John told her.

 

As an agency employee, if one tries to access anything outside of their direct responsibility, the system notes it. Repeated attempts come to the attention of the Security Office, who then passes that knowledge to CIMC (Counter Intelligence Mission C enter). The Chief of CIMC then makes a determination as to whether that officer should be questioned, or if the attempted access is somehow peripheral to the officer's job. That is one process the agency uses to uncover moles. If it is way out of bounds, the officer is questioned by Security, and even swirled.

 

Feinstein's Congressional staffers tried to find names of clandestine assets, search for things like "UFOs", etc. They had no authority to do so, and the system itself---not Brennan nor any human being in the agency had any control over what the system is designed to do.

 

There is strict compartmentalization in the agency, as only those who need to know something are read in. A perfect example is the Russia investigation, where John also set up a Bigot List to note every single person who had any knowledge of that intel, all of which was moved from the agency to the bureau (as if involved a US Person). Durham had access to the Bigot List and interviewed every single agency person on it. Nobody at the agency was found by Durham to have done anything wrong.

 

Finally, as DCI, Brennan would not even have been involved in any depth with the discussions back then with Feinstein. That would have been below him and handled by the ExDir or CIMC Chief or Security.

 

Just because something appears in the media does not mean it is true or a complete story. I thought MAGAs inherently held mistrust for legacy media....well, unless it serves their purpose.

 

Odd how concerned MAGAs are with things about which they know nothing, yet give Trump a pass for stealing classified documents and keeping them (including HCS-HUman Clandestine Sources) at his wedding event facility and country club.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/a-brief-history-of-the-cias-unpunished-spying-on-the-senate/384003

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Has anyone else here ever wondered about the imagery he uses.

Probably was a regular at Diddy parties

8 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Lied?

 

I know the situation you talk about.

 

When Feinstein's staff had access to agency computers, they were unaware that EVERY single person who accesses, or tries to access anything on the agency system, is followed by a built-in program. It is totally out of human control. It's part of the "need to know" system.

 

Feinstein's people tried accessing things far different from what they were authorized to access, and the system noted their attempts.

 

Feinstein was already suffering from cognitive decline at that time, and she lacked the ability to understand what John told her.

 

As an agency employee, if one tries to access anything outside of their direct responsibility, the system notes it. Repeated attempts come to the attention of the Security Office, who then passes that knowledge to CIMC (Counter Intelligence Mission C enter). The Chief of CIMC then makes a determination as to whether that officer should be questioned, or if the attempted access is somehow peripheral to the officer's job. That is one process the agency uses to uncover moles. If it is way out of bounds, the officer is questioned by Security, and even swirled.

 

Feinstein's Congressional staffers tried to find names of clandestine assets, search for things like "UFOs", etc. They had no authority to do so, and the system itself---not Brennan nor any human being in the agency had any control over what the system is designed to do.

 

There is strict compartmentalization in the agency, as only those who need to know something are read in. A perfect example is the Russia investigation, where John also set up a Bigot List to note every single person who had any knowledge of that intel, all of which was moved from the agency to the bureau (as if involved a US Person). Durham had access to the Bigot List and interviewed every single agency person on it. Nobody at the agency was found by Durham to have done anything wrong.

 

Finally, as DCI, Brennan would not even have been involved in any depth with the discussions back then with Feinstein. That would have been below him and handled by the ExDir or CIMC Chief or Security.

 

Just because something appears in the media does not mean it is true or a complete story. I thought MAGAs inherently held mistrust for legacy media....well, unless it serves their purpose.

 

Odd how concerned MAGAs are with things about which they know nothing, yet give Trump a pass for stealing classified documents and keeping them (including HCS-HUman Clandestine Sources) at his wedding event facility and country club.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-cia-just-admitted-that-it-spied-on-the-us-senate/

9 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Lied?

 

I know the situation you talk about.

 

When Feinstein's staff had access to agency computers, they were unaware that EVERY single person who accesses, or tries to access anything on the agency system, is followed by a built-in program. It is totally out of human control. It's part of the "need to know" system.

 

Feinstein's people tried accessing things far different from what they were authorized to access, and the system noted their attempts.

 

Feinstein was already suffering from cognitive decline at that time, and she lacked the ability to understand what John told her.

 

As an agency employee, if one tries to access anything outside of their direct responsibility, the system notes it. Repeated attempts come to the attention of the Security Office, who then passes that knowledge to CIMC (Counter Intelligence Mission C enter). The Chief of CIMC then makes a determination as to whether that officer should be questioned, or if the attempted access is somehow peripheral to the officer's job. That is one process the agency uses to uncover moles. If it is way out of bounds, the officer is questioned by Security, and even swirled.

 

Feinstein's Congressional staffers tried to find names of clandestine assets, search for things like "UFOs", etc. They had no authority to do so, and the system itself---not Brennan nor any human being in the agency had any control over what the system is designed to do.

 

There is strict compartmentalization in the agency, as only those who need to know something are read in. A perfect example is the Russia investigation, where John also set up a Bigot List to note every single person who had any knowledge of that intel, all of which was moved from the agency to the bureau (as if involved a US Person). Durham had access to the Bigot List and interviewed every single agency person on it. Nobody at the agency was found by Durham to have done anything wrong.

 

Finally, as DCI, Brennan would not even have been involved in any depth with the discussions back then with Feinstein. That would have been below him and handled by the ExDir or CIMC Chief or Security.

 

Just because something appears in the media does not mean it is true or a complete story. I thought MAGAs inherently held mistrust for legacy media....well, unless it serves their purpose.

 

Odd how concerned MAGAs are with things about which they know nothing, yet give Trump a pass for stealing classified documents and keeping them (including HCS-HUman Clandestine Sources) at his wedding event facility and country club.

CIA admits to spying on Senate committee

CIA Director John Brennan apologized for improperly accessing Senate computers, confirming allegations made by Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California.
 

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/cia-spied-senate-committee-msna380981

 

 

 

 

Most people probably don't like to be confronted about telling lies.

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Wingate said:

I know the situation you talk about

Is this you John Brennan.

35 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Lied?

 

I know the situation you talk about.

 

When Feinstein's staff had access to agency computers, they were unaware that EVERY single person who accesses, or tries to access anything on the agency system, is followed by a built-in program. It is totally out of human control. It's part of the "need to know" system.

 

Feinstein's people tried accessing things far different from what they were authorized to access, and the system noted their attempts.

 

Feinstein was already suffering from cognitive decline at that time, and she lacked the ability to understand what John told her.

 

As an agency employee, if one tries to access anything outside of their direct responsibility, the system notes it. Repeated attempts come to the attention of the Security Office, who then passes that knowledge to CIMC (Counter Intelligence Mission C enter). The Chief of CIMC then makes a determination as to whether that officer should be questioned, or if the attempted access is somehow peripheral to the officer's job. That is one process the agency uses to uncover moles. If it is way out of bounds, the officer is questioned by Security, and even swirled.

 

Feinstein's Congressional staffers tried to find names of clandestine assets, search for things like "UFOs", etc. They had no authority to do so, and the system itself---not Brennan nor any human being in the agency had any control over what the system is designed to do.

 

There is strict compartmentalization in the agency, as only those who need to know something are read in. A perfect example is the Russia investigation, where John also set up a Bigot List to note every single person who had any knowledge of that intel, all of which was moved from the agency to the bureau (as if involved a US Person). Durham had access to the Bigot List and interviewed every single agency person on it. Nobody at the agency was found by Durham to have done anything wrong.

 

Finally, as DCI, Brennan would not even have been involved in any depth with the discussions back then with Feinstein. That would have been below him and handled by the ExDir or CIMC Chief or Security.

 

Just because something appears in the media does not mean it is true or a complete story. I thought MAGAs inherently held mistrust for legacy media....well, unless it serves their purpose.

 

Odd how concerned MAGAs are with things about which they know nothing, yet give Trump a pass for stealing classified documents and keeping them (including HCS-HUman Clandestine Sources) at his wedding event facility and country club.

Copied and pasted from fellow fantasist walker88 post? Or?....

3 hours ago, Wingate said:

The Constitution, of which you are apparently ignorant, starts out with something called the 1st Amendment, in which the rights of free speech, a free press, freedom of/from religion and freedom of assembly are laid down.

 

Seriously?  The Constitution starts out with a preamble and 7 articles.  Not with the "Amendments".

 

And any layman that thinks he understands the Constitution from reading it is deluded.  There are millions of pages in thousands of volumes written to interpret and explain what it means.

 

1 hour ago, TedG said:

He should be prosecuted for spying on the Senate and lying about it.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/a-brief-history-of-the-cias-unpunished-spying-on-the-senate/384003/

What a lefty phenomenon : "This is the story of John Brennan's CIA spying on Congress and getting away with it". Atlantic source.

 

The phenomenon is when the party left propaganda rags announce his culpability,its for humanity & supported .

When the right does it ,they are Fascist and a threat to Dem Democracy.

 

1 hour ago, TedG said:

CIA admits to spying on Senate committee

CIA Director John Brennan apologized for improperly accessing Senate computers, confirming allegations made by Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California.
 

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/cia-spied-senate-committee-msna380981

 MSNBC Source:"The CIA's admission on Thursday came after months of tension between the Senate committee and the CIA over the spying allegations. Feinstein and Brennan clashed in March, when Feinstein first accused the CIA of spying on the committee staffers after repeatedly trying to undermine their investigation".

 

Case in point above .Brennan's  culpability screams to be held accountable. This will be  the first time in history of a America First Administration supporting a reasonable prosecutor in   holding  these actors accountable .

3 hours ago, TedG said:

I don’t understand why the left loves Brennan so much.  He lied to congress about spying on the Senate.  
 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/3864515/how-john-brennan-lied-to-congress/

 

Also, read this link:

 

 

https://open.substack.com/pub/taibbi/p/meet-the-man-who-inspired-former?r=qaup1&utm_medium=ios

Who says the left loves Brennan so much? to your way of thinking does opposition  to prosecution equal love?

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Who says the left loves Brennan so much? to your way of thinking does opposition  to prosecution equal love?

Do you agree that he is lying scum.

2 hours ago, riclag said:

What a lefty phenomenon : "This is the story of John Brennan's CIA spying on Congress and getting away with it". Atlantic source.

 

The phenomenon is when the party left propaganda rags announce his culpability,its for humanity & supported .

When the right does it ,they are Fascist and a threat to Dem Democracy.

 

Brennan spied on a Dem led Senate Committee. Feinstein is Dem. 🤣

51 minutes ago, TedG said:

Do you agree that he is lying scum.

I don't agree that being lying scum is grounds for prosecution. If that were the case, I can think of a certain current US president who would most certainly be liable to face prosecution for his multitudinous infractions.

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I don't agree that being lying scum is grounds for prosecution. If that were the case, I can think of a certain current US president who would most certainly be liable to face prosecution for his multitudinous infractions.

Lying to congress?  

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

Lying to congress?  

Lying to the DOJ to conceal possible crimes?

12 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Manafort handed GRU asset Konstantin Kilimnik detailed internal polling data from the Trump campaign

That’s some serious state secrets.

17 minutes ago, TedG said:

That’s some serious state secrets.

Election interference, enabled, or even stronger requested for and assisted by, the trump campaign.

9 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Election interference, enabled, or even stronger requested for and assisted by, the trump campaign.

Nope.  

4 hours ago, Wingate said:

Their alleged "crimes", despite already given a clean bill of health by Trump's Term One attack dog john Durham, occurred in 2016.

"Hillary Clinton Did It"

 

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/hillary-clinton-did-it-robby-mook-michael-sussmann-donald-trump-russia-collusion-alfa-bank-11653084709

 

Wingate's gold standard of clean bills of health from John Durham🤣

22 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"Hillary Clinton Did It"

 

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/hillary-clinton-did-it-robby-mook-michael-sussmann-donald-trump-russia-collusion-alfa-bank-11653084709

 

Wingate's gold standard of clean bills of health from John Durham🤣

I have a feeling that the Wall Street Journal might be sorry that they published that editorial since 9 days later Mark Sussman was acquitted. Most legal experts thought that the case was too weak to begin with. 

But you will note that, despite the weakness of the case, this prosecution was allowed to proceed unhindered by the Biden administration.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"Hillary Clinton Did It"

 

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/hillary-clinton-did-it-robby-mook-michael-sussmann-donald-trump-russia-collusion-alfa-bank-11653084709

 

Wingate's gold standard of clean bills of health from John Durham🤣

This is about Alfabank. The FBI did not trust these allegations and did not use this case, according to court documents from Sussman's trial. The Durham probe actually cleared them! 😆

19 minutes ago, candide said:

This is about Alfabank. The FBI did not trust these allegations and did not use this case, according to court documents from Sussman's trial. The Durham probe actually cleared them! 😆

Its about your Hillary and the dems concocting vile hoaxes to wage lawfare on mr clean. Stating facts was banned on certain forums to allow these lies to thoroughly brainwash the - how can we say - folk less able to think for themselves. Ringing any bells??🤣

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Its about your Hillary and the dems concocting vile hoaxes to wage lawfare on mr clean. Stating facts was banned on certain forums to allow these lies to thoroughly brainwash the - how can we say - folk less able to think for themselves. Ringing any bells??🤣

The Alfabank case was not used by the FBI against Trump!

I don't remember that claiming that the Alfabank story was fake, was banned on this forum. You're making stuff up again! 🤣

15 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Its about your Hillary and the dems concocting vile hoaxes to wage lawfare on mr clean. Stating facts was banned on certain forums to allow these lies to thoroughly brainwash the - how can we say - folk less able to think for themselves. Ringing any bells??🤣

Don't forget Marco Rubio and the other Republican members of SSCI !!!!!

 

www.rollcall.com commented on the SSCI Report upon its release. Here's an excerpt from their article at the time of release:

 

"The Senate Intelligence Committee report found that Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s presence “created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign.”

 

Manafort worked for Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and other Kremlin-affiliated Russians to mount influence campaigns in Ukraine, and in the process also hired and worked with Konstantin Kilimnik, a former Russian intelligence officer, the report said.

 

“The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU’s hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election,” the report said, referring to the Russian military intelligence service by its initials.

 

U.S. intelligence agencies have said hackers working for GRU were directly involved in breaking into the Democratic National Committee’s servers as well as breaching the email account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager.

 

Manafort shared Trump campaign’s internal polling data with Kilimnik prior to the 2016 election. And in the months after November 2016, Manafort continued to work with Kilimnik and other Russians “to undermine evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election,” the report said.

 

“Manafort’s high level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat,” the report said."

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Its about your Hillary and the dems concocting vile hoaxes to wage lawfare on mr clean. Stating facts was banned on certain forums to allow these lies to thoroughly brainwash the - how can we say - folk less able to think for themselves. Ringing any bells??🤣

 

Just now, Wingate said:

Don't forget Marco Rubio and the other Republican members of SSCI !!!!!

 

 

www.rollcall.com commented on the SSCI Report upon its release. Here's an excerpt from their article at the time of release:

"The Senate Intelligence Committee report found that Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s presence “created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign.”

 

Manafort worked for Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and other Kremlin-affiliated Russians to mount influence campaigns in Ukraine, and in the process also hired and worked with Konstantin Kilimnik, a former Russian intelligence officer, the report said.

 

“The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU’s hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election,” the report said, referring to the Russian military intelligence service by its initials.

 

U.S. intelligence agencies have said hackers working for GRU were directly involved in breaking into the Democratic National Committee’s servers as well as breaching the email account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager.

 

Manafort shared Trump campaign’s internal polling data with Kilimnik prior to the 2016 election. And in the months after November 2016, Manafort continued to work with Kilimnik and other Russians “to undermine evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election,” the report said.

 

“Manafort’s high level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat,” the report said."

 

@SunnyinBangrak You should examine what Wingate has offered up here. These are what facts look like.

6 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

 

@SunnyinBangrak You should examine what Wingate has offered up here. These are what facts look like.

Nice job of vetting Paul Manafort before hiring him as Campaign Chair.....NOT! Or maybe Trump got exactly what he wanted in a Campaign Chair.......access to the GRU and its disinformation team at the Internet Research Agency.

 

I mean, Manafort worked for Oleg Deripaska as well as GRU asset Konstantin Kilimnik before Trump hired him as Chairman.

 

Willful cooperation or abject incompetence...neither looks good.

12 hours ago, TedG said:

Nope.  

My claim has been proven in court. Yours is just your assertion, despite proof otherwise.