8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There's very little difference between the extremist settlers, the extremist Orthodoxy, and the extremist members of the Israeli government. You need to learn that. 

And of course the extremist Hamas, which are not the Palestinian people. Nor are the Israelis all Nazis. I believe there are moderate Hamas supporters as a form of stable govt, just as they supported the moderate Hezbollah and the moderate Palestinian Authority and the moderate PLO. If you don't believe me, look at the somments of the leaders of those groups. However, the settlers stealing land and committing terrorist acts, yes, they are the Nazis. Kristallnacht comes to mind.

2 hours ago, Packer said:

Israel was the biggest mistake of the 1940s. 😞 

All theocracies are mistakes, including the evangelicals in the US.

16 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

I ask 2 questions and then you want me to search for an answer, so do I take it you yet again have no proof of your previous statement, which was, "When a Palestinian murders an Israel , the Palestine government finically awards the killers , pays them handsomely ."

Pathetic reply. Obviously you are not interested in the truth and most know why. This is well documented. Oh and don't bother asking me to search for you either. 

21 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

I ask 2 questions and then you want me to search for an answer, so do I take it you yet again have no proof of your previous statement, which was, "When a Palestinian murders an Israel , the Palestine government finically awards the killers , pays them handsomely ."

 

   OK . I'll do it 

 

Websearch : "Pay to slay" 

 

Heres the links as proof 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=hamas+pay+for+slay&sca_esv=740dc6ac61211c57&sxsrf=AE3TifNndD-5iav6gSZW72oMGHxEU_FDcw%3A1763027339483&ei=i6kVafSSHfS2vr0P8fyfkQ8&ved=0ahUKEwi0hLLS7O6QAxV0m68BHXH-J_IQ4dUDCBE&oq=hamas+pay+for+slay&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiEmhhbWFzIHBheSBmb3Igc2xheUjeXFCJBlj_SnABeACQAQCYAa4BoAGLFaoBBDAuMjC4AQzIAQD4AQGYAgygAvEMwgIKEAAYsAMY1gQYR8ICChAjGIAEGCcYigXCAgoQIxjwBRgnGMkCwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICCxAuGIAEGJECGIoFwgIFEAAYgATCAggQABiABBixA8ICDhAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIOEAAYgAQYsQMYgwEYigXCAgUQLhiABMICERAuGIAEGLEDGNEDGIMBGMcBwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAgQQIxgnwgIQECMY8AUYgAQYJxjJAhiKBcICChAuGIAEGCcYigXCAgkQABiABBgKGAvCAgUQIRigAcICBxAAGIAEGA3CAggQABgFGA0YHsICBxAhGKABGArCAgUQIRifBZgDAIgGAZAGCJIHBDEuMTGgB9GJAbIHBDAuMTG4B-YMwgcHMC4xLjguM8gHUw&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

 

Two sides to the story and of course the Palestinian side is favoured by the MSM. 

According to Grok AI - 

 

The West Bank, occupied by Israel since 1967, is home to approximately 3 million Palestinians and around 700,000 Jewish settlers living in about 160 settlements and outposts. Violence in the region is bidirectional and has escalated significantly since the October 7, 2023, Hamas-led attack on Israel, which killed about 1,200 people and triggered the ongoing Gaza war. Palestinian attacks on Jews (primarily settlers and Israeli security forces) often involve shootings, stabbings, vehicle rammings, or bombings, frequently claimed by groups like Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) or the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades. These are framed by perpetrators as resistance to occupation and settlement expansion, but they are widely condemned internationally as terrorism.

 

They are attacking and killing each other - have been for many decades (millennia) - there will never be peace in the Middle East between Jews and Muslims - never has been and never will be.  Personally, I am getting very tired of it - same as the starving poor in Africa and all the other troubles in the world.  The western world has been spending many decades and $billions trying to help both situations - but they all still basically remain the same.  IMO the West should get out and leave it all alone - let them sort it out themselves one way or the other.  It is no secret why western countries have great economies and a far greater life than other 3rd world countries - but they are still stuck in their inglorious past and hatreds. The 'West' have (mostly) got over all that because of WW2 - let them have their own wars and stay out of it. 

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Two sides to the story and of course the Palestinian side is favoured by the MSM. 

According to Grok AI - 

 

The West Bank, occupied by Israel since 1967, is home to approximately 3 million Palestinians and around 700,000 Jewish settlers living in about 160 settlements and outposts. Violence in the region is bidirectional and has escalated significantly since the October 7, 2023, Hamas-led attack on Israel, which killed about 1,200 people and triggered the ongoing Gaza war. Palestinian attacks on Jews (primarily settlers and Israeli security forces) often involve shootings, stabbings, vehicle rammings, or bombings, frequently claimed by groups like Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) or the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades. These are framed by perpetrators as resistance to occupation and settlement expansion, but they are widely condemned internationally as terrorism.

 

They are attacking and killing each other - have been for many decades (millennia) - there will never be peace in the Middle East between Jews and Muslims - never has been and never will be.  Personally, I am getting very tired of it - same as the starving poor in Africa and all the other troubles in the world.  The western world has been spending many decades and $billions trying to help both situations - but they all still basically remain the same.  IMO the West should get out and leave it all alone - let them sort it out themselves one way or the other.  It is no secret why western countries have great economies and a far greater life than other 3rd world countries - but they are still stuck in their inglorious past and hatreds. The 'West' have (mostly) got over all that because of WW2 - let them have their own wars and stay out of it. 

Which question did you ask Grok?

22 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

What would Gaza be like without Hamas?

 

It would be like the West Bank.

Good point, roadblocks everywhere, desperate roads between illegal settlements, constant humiliation and efforts to force them out their homes, chopping down their olive trees etc

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   When a Palestinian murders an Israel , the Palestine government finically awards the killers , pays them handsomely .

   Thats the environment where it happens 

But but but…

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No, I didn't miss that .

The above doesn't show that the settlers actions ordered by the Government .

   The Government isn't responsible for the settlers actions and the above doesn't suggest otherwise 

Maybe correct in that officially not ordered but encouraged . Over an extended period of time there have been and currently are videos of "settlers" accompanied or protected by IDF .

1 hour ago, JimCM said:

Good point, roadblocks everywhere, desperate roads between illegal settlements, constant humiliation and efforts to force them out their homes, chopping down their olive trees etc

Yes Hamas did a very good job for many years keeping the Israelis at bay while the settlers were robbing and looting Palestinian homes in the Occupied West bank.

 

It enraged the Israelis which is the real reason they committed genocide in Gaza. 
 

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5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

. I believe there are moderate Hamas supporters as a form of stable govt, just as they supported the moderate Hezbollah and the moderate Palestinian Authority and the moderate PLO. If you don't believe me, look at the somments of the leaders of those groups.

 

   Which statements are those and who made them ?

14 hours ago, JAG said:

Except you didn't see that did you, you saw reports, from sources you are either unable or unprepared to name, let alone confirm,  that they are blocking such supplies.

 

The health service in Israel has a creditable record of treating sick Palestinian children.

Creditable record

How on earth can you support such evil?

 

UNICEF said on Tuesday essential items including syringes to vaccinate children and bottles for baby formula are being denied entry into Gaza by Israel, preventing aid agencies from reaching those in need in the war-devastated territory.

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/unicef-says-israel-blocking-one-million-syringes-needed-vaccinate-gaza-children-2025-11-11/

 

Israeli terrorists.

8 hours ago, JimCM said:

Creditable record

How on earth can you support such evil?

 

UNICEF said on Tuesday essential items including syringes to vaccinate children and bottles for baby formula are being denied entry into Gaza by Israel, preventing aid agencies from reaching those in need in the war-devastated territory.

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/unicef-says-israel-blocking-one-million-syringes-needed-vaccinate-gaza-children-2025-11-11/

 

Support such evil huh! Here's another quote from that article: 

 

"UNICEF launched the first of three rounds of catch-up immunisations on Sunday to reach over 40,000 children under three who missed routine vaccines against polio, measles and pneumonia, following two years of war in Gaza.

On the first day of the campaign it reached over 2,400 children with multiple vaccines.

"The vaccination campaign has started, but we have two rounds to go, and for that we need more supplies," Pires said.

 

I think they use syringes for that don't they?

5 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

Israeli terrorists.

More accurately, IDF terrorists who comply with illegal orders.

 

4 hours ago, 300sd said:

Support such evil huh! Here's another quote from that article: 

"UNICEF launched the first of three rounds of catch-up immunisations on Sunday to reach over 40,000 children under three

"The vaccination campaign has started, but we have two rounds to go, and for that we need more supplies," Pires said.

 

And why is it UNICEF instead of Israel which claims those territories belong to them? UNICEF's Pires states the vaxx campaign needs more supplies. Are they getting them from Israel.Only bombs, bullets & drones, methinks.

19 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

The West Bank, occupied by Israel since 1967,

Illegally. 

5 hours ago, 300sd said:

children under three who missed routine vaccines against polio, measles and pneumonia, following two years of war in Gaza.

They couldn’t be immunized because the Israelis were bombing all the hospitals.

If I was a parent I would take my chances with polio which is a lot preferable to being buried under rubble and bombs

18 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But but but…

 

   You cannot really complain if the Israeli authorities do not full prosecute its own people in the war , when your side , not only doesn't prosecute its own people, but actually  rewards them for murdering Israelis .

   Palestinian kills Israeli, gets $10 000 reward for doing so .

Israeli kills a Palestinian...............gets jailed as a "reward".

    That's not fair, now is it .

On 11/13/2025 at 11:07 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

The term ‘settlers’ is a euphemism.

Same as ' migrants'.

On 11/13/2025 at 8:07 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

The term ‘settlers’ is a euphemism.

 

   Should be called *Rightful returnees reclaiming their land*

3 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

They couldn’t be immunized because the Israelis were bombing all the hospitals.

If I was a parent I would take my chances with polio which is a lot preferable to being buried under rubble and bombs

Talk to Hamas about that. They were hiding in hospitals!

20 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Should be called *Rightful returnees reclaiming their land*

Or ethnic cleansers.

19 hours ago, 300sd said:

Talk to Hamas about that. They were hiding in hospitals!

That justifies killing unarmed babies?

Looks like another war ,Donald did not end , plus the Thai/ Cambodia conflict,

so now he's down to only 6 wars he ended 🤡,he says and looks like he is

looking for conflict with Venezuela and Nigeria ,and invasion of Canada and

Greenland put on hold for now...

 

regards worgeordie

4 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

That justifies killing unarmed babies?

Talk to Hamas again, they are the experts at killing innocent babies, especially Jewish babies. Ask them why they hide behind "unarmed" babies. Hamas needs to be extinguished permanently. Oh and by the way, one doesn't need a hospital to vaccinate babies! One more thing. Nothing justifies killing babies, nothing.

2 hours ago, 300sd said:

Talk to Hamas again, they are the experts at killing innocent babies, especially Jewish babies. Ask them why they hide behind "unarmed" babies. Hamas needs to be extinguished permanently. Oh and by the way, one doesn't need a hospital to vaccinate babies! One more thing. Nothing justifies killing babies, nothing.

How do the obscene crimes of Hamas justify the attacks by Israeli ‘settlers’ in the West Bank?

51 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

How do the obscene crimes of Hamas justify the attacks by Israeli ‘settlers’ in the West Bank?

Never said they did! 

While the American/South African 'Jewish Settlers' continue their attacks on the West Bank, the IDF will almost certainly start bulldozing what's left of Gaza soon. I'd almost bet they annex the entire West Bank within ten years. By then Gaza will have become another Ibiza with Trump's son-in-law a main landlord of casinos, resorts and nightclubs in the 'strip'. 

 

How is it the world stands by while the scum of the earth get richer and richer and just grab whatever they wish? It seems no one can touch - or even interupt in any way - the whims of the Israel or the impervious western billionnaires.