2 hours ago, stevenl said:

So release the files.

But make sure that all the files are completely unredacted.

 

That way, anybody can see that they are the original untampered files.

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

So why didn't Biden release them.

 

Serious question. Any theories? Maybe he protecting MAGA? 

I don't think Biden was protecting MAGA, I think Biden was protecting very important people that are on that list and Trump is doing the very same thing, except the difference now is that the list includes himself!

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

The woman involved in this email has already testified that to her knowledge Trump behaved professionally and she didn't witness any criminality. This is a red herring given to the press from the Democrats in the House Oversight Committee.

Yes the woman who was immediately moved to a country club prison after that testimony.

Probably just a coincidence,

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

So why didn't Biden release them.

 

Serious question. Any theories? Maybe he protecting MAGA? 

Bubba was on there, others not necessarily GOP?

2 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Bubba was on there, others not necessarily GOP?

 

Both sides will be on there.

 

Biden didn't release them and Trump hasn't yet.

 

Which makes the Libs outrage at Trump so amusing when you didn't hear a peep about it during Biden's term. 😀.

 

But hypocrisy and double standards are synonymous with the left as we all know. 

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Wrong person. This email concerns a victim. If you want to know who then do some homework.

 

So you know the UNNAMED victim which is the subject of the emails?

 

Well looky, another chance for the Trump haters to spew their libelous and defamatory lying about Trump and Epstein.

 

Better read the news article carefully LOL

 

 

9 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

So you know the UNNAMED victim which is the subject of the emails?

 

Yeah. Its pretty obvious to folks who have a life outside the 24/7 hate Trump bubble.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Well looky, another libelous and defamatory topic lying about Trump and Epstein.

 

 

🤣...................Very funny......................🤣

Just now, transam said:

🤣...................Very funny......................🤣

OH looky, the stalker. Get your obligatory thumbs down in? Where is your bro the Soros worshipper.

 

You dont consider some of the postings defamatory? 

 

 

47 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Do you?

 

Biden had plenty of chance to release them. Like Trump, he didn't but only now are the Liberals outraged. The syndrome runs as strong as the hypocrisy.  

No I don’t, but then I haven’t claimed to know his views.

 

Biden was President, he was not the head of the DOJ, back when the DOJ was left to do its own job without micromanagement from the White House.

 

Nor, as is relevant, did Biden make an election promise to release the Epstein Files.

 

There is no syndrome, there is however the hypocrisy of Trump’s supporters, both foreign and domestic, suddenly switching on the issue.

 

 

 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

No I don’t, but then I haven’t claimed to know his views.

 

Neither have I. 

https://nypost.com/2025/11/12/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-claimed-donald-trump-knew-about-the-girls-in-2019-email/

 

With all due respect to this Forum, this topic should be closed

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

J, back when the DOJ was left to do its own job without micromanagement from the White House.

You are lying again. 

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

The woman involved in this email has already testified that to her knowledge Trump behaved professionally and she didn't witness any criminality. This is a red herring given to the press from the Democrats in the House Oversight Committee.

The blind leading the ,,,,,,,,,

The Epstein files should have been released during the Biden administration.

It's a scandal that they were not.

 

So of course the reasonable conclusion is that they should not be released now.

 

Is that the argument being presented?

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

The woman involved in this email has already testified that to her knowledge Trump behaved professionally and she didn't witness any criminality. This is a red herring given to the press from the Democrats in the House Oversight Committee.

Yeah, and the BBC are reporting this too.  A stunningly balanced act of unbiased reporting by the BBC when it comes to Trump for the first time in a very long time.  Wonder why that is... 🤓

2 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

The Epstein files should have been released during the Biden administration.

It's a scandal that they were not.

 

So of course the reasonable conclusion is that they should not be released now.

 

Is that the argument being presented?

 

No that is not the argument.

 

That is a strawman. 

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

No that is not the argument.

 

That is a strawman. 

If both premises are true it isn't a strawman.

5 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

This is a recurring observation, and I have no informed answer

 

... but maybe the fact that the Biden admin had secured 2 federal criminal indictments against (then) private citizen Trump and that was their priority -- not that there might be info embarrassing to Trump but not any criminality state or federal

 

 

The challenge that the Biden auto pen presented was that, while there may be emails with Trump's name, there are also emails and meetings with numerous Democratic supporters, including Gates, Clinton, bank presidents, and, I am sure, other world leaders.  

 

That last thing the autopen wanted to do was open the can of worms while it was in office.  Hey maybe we will find that Biden was also part of it.

 

Personally, I think that they should open it and let it go; the fallout is going to hurt a lot of business leaders.  Bill Gates may have issues to discuss.

 

 

There had to be a reason that the DNC did not use Epstein and Trump on the campaign trail when Kamala was imploding.

Clinton will just have more muck on him and her.

27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Both sides will be on there.

 

Biden didn't release them and Trump hasn't yet.

 

Which makes the Libs outrage at Trump so amusing when you didn't hear a peep about it during Biden's term. 😀.

 

But hypocrisy and double standards are synonymous with the left as we all know. 

Biden didn’t release them. 
 

Trump promised to release them but has since chickened out on the matter.

 

The outrage of the u-turn is not reserved for the ‘Libs’, many within the U.S. rightwing are demanding the release, MTG being an prominent example.

 

You’d have to be particularly poorly informed not to know that.

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let’s find out.

 

Release the files.

 

Agree.

 

But careful what you wish for Chomps.

 

It's no mistake that Biden kept them under wraps.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Biden didn’t release them. 
 

Trump promised to release them but has since chickened out on the matter.

 

The outrage of the u-turn is not reserved for the ‘Libs’, many within the U.S. rightwing are demanding the release, MTG being an prominent example.

 

You’d have to be particularly poorly informed not to know that.

 

There is no U turn from the right.

 

They wanted them released under Biden and they want them released now.

 

It's the left that changed track as soon as Biden left office. 

4 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

If both premises are true it isn't a strawman.

 

But they aren't.

 

So it is. 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

But they aren't.

 

So it is. 

You are not the only poster on this thread.
Apparently you are in favor of the release of the Epstein files, noted.

 

However, many on here are stating or implying that it was scandalous that Biden didn't release the Epstein files and at the same time explicitly or implicitly supporting the continued suppression of the Epstein files at this time.

 

I commend you for your recent discovery of the term "straw man" (used twice in this thread with questionable applicability). You might also like to try out "Occam's razor"; another rhetorical concept that users on AN like to misapply. 

18 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Yeah. Its pretty obvious to folks who have a life outside the 24/7 hate Trump bubble.

 

Oh look my personal stalker answers a question not directed at him.

 

So why don't you enlighten us all about the name of that victim?

 

I'm sure you can't, just want to play smart alec, but for that you lack the smart part.

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

Oh look my personal stalker answers a question not directed at him.

 

So why don't you enlighten us all about the name of that victim?

 

I'm sure you can't, just want to play smart alec, but for that you lack the smart part.

Duh. Virginia Guiffre. You lose, again. 

 

You arent worth stalking.

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

There is no U turn from the right.

 

They wanted them released under Biden and they want them released now.

 

It's the left that changed track as soon as Biden left office. 

 

Bondi : The files are on my desk and will be released soon.

 

Bondi the following week : I have not seen the files, there are no files

Just now, Yagoda said:

Duh. Virginia Guiffre. You lose, again. 

 

You arent worth stalking.

 

Virginia Guiffre never commented on Trump.

 

Look who is the loser

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

There is no U turn from the right.

 

They wanted them released under Biden and they want them released now.

 

It's the left that changed track as soon as Biden left office. 

That’s your strawman.

 

I never stated a U-turn from the right.