Things you won't hear on mainstream media.  Why?  Because pharmaceutical companies advertising pays to keep mainstream media alive.  Yet that fact that the newest addition to mRNA phase 3 trials is failing miserably can be found in alt-media along with quotes such as FDA Commissioner, Dr. Marty Makary who stated that the Pfizers phase 3 mRNA vaccine for flu, "failed in seniors," and that “The trial showed zero benefit."

The new paradigm is to actually force pharmaceutical companies to run full double-blind, placebo-based studies to show that a "vaccine" works as intended and does no harm - as opposed to just taking the pharmaceutical company's word that they work.

However, medical journals now get into the act of censoring relevant data, such as NOT PUBLISHING clinical results that don't show benefit or worse, that show harm.  In this case the New England Journal of Medicine left out the mRNA flu vaccine data for those over 64 years old.  Why?  It seems that data shows that the shot cause kidney damage in the elderly.  

Now before I'm called an "anti-vaxxer," well, I'm not.  I take vaccines that are based on historical, proven data, such as rabies vaccines.  However, I do not take flu shots.  Why?  I haven't had the flu for over 20 years.  I don't see a need.  But if I got the flu regularly and "flu vaccines" were proven to stop flu contagion - heck, I'd be first in line asking for my shot.  But I find it sad that pharmaceutical companies and medical journals cover up clinical trial data.  It's unethical. 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/pfizer-mrna-influenza-vaccine-failed-in-clinical-trial-among-seniors-fda-commissioner-5951888

 

 

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-omitted-trial-data-showing-higher-mortality-kidney-failure-seniors-mrna-flu-shot/

22 minutes ago, connda said:

Things you won't hear on mainstream media.  Why?  Because pharmaceutical companies advertising pays to keep mainstream media alive.  Yet that fact that the newest addition to mRNA phase 3 trials is failing miserably can be found in alt-media along with quotes such as FDA Commissioner, Dr. Marty Makary who stated that the Pfizers phase 3 mRNA vaccine for flu, "failed in seniors," and that “The trial showed zero benefit."

The new paradigm is to actually force pharmaceutical companies to run full double-blind, placebo-based studies to show that a "vaccine" works as intended and does no harm - as opposed to just taking the pharmaceutical company's word that they work.

However, medical journals now get into the act of censoring relevant data, such as NOT PUBLISHING clinical results that don't show benefit or worse, that show harm.  In this case the New England Journal of Medicine left out the mRNA flu vaccine data for those over 64 years old.  Why?  It seems that data shows that the shot cause kidney damage in the elderly.  

Now before I'm called an "anti-vaxxer," well, I'm not.  I take vaccines that are based on historical, proven data, such as rabies vaccines.  However, I do not take flu shots.  Why?  I haven't had the flu for over 20 years.  I don't see a need.  But if I got the flu regularly and "flu vaccines" were proven to stop flu contagion - heck, I'd be first in line asking for my shot.  But I find it sad that pharmaceutical companies and medical journals cover up clinical trial data.  It's unethical. 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/pfizer-mrna-influenza-vaccine-failed-in-clinical-trial-among-seniors-fda-commissioner-5951888

 

 

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-omitted-trial-data-showing-higher-mortality-kidney-failure-seniors-mrna-flu-shot/

I reported this on this forum just a few days ago in response to a post by Red Phoenix. This news was reported widely

Is the FDA finally doing what it s intended for?

 

Personally, I'm still baffled as to what the mRNA vaxxes are actually supposed to achieve. Yes, I know what they say they are for; but what's it really all about. A vaxx to stop yer getting fat; (that's weight challenged between you and me). A vaxx to help yer stop drinking a certain brand of whiskey: (perhaps one originating from China). A vaxx to help with yer love life: (wink, wink). Well these preventions and cures are out there already.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

24 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

I reported this on this forum just a few days ago in response to a post by Red Phoenix. This news was reported widely

Yes, you did post about the failure of Pfizer's mRNA Flu Vaccine in seniors.  

But you seem to consider it Ok that the trial data of that Pfizer Flu-jab published in the NEJM did omit those data, while +60% of the flu-jabs are taken by these seniors.  

9 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yes, you did post about the failure of Pfizer's mRNA Flu Vaccine in seniors.  

But you seem to consider it Ok that the trial data of that Pfizer Flu-jab published in the NEJM did omit those data, while +60% of the flu-jabs are taken by these seniors.  

Obviously the old uns will be more unable to fight off the filth in the vaxxes. What are they trying to do to them with the jabs?

 

This flu jab nonsense is simply a giant money making scam.

 

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Obviously the old uns will be more unable to fight off the filth in the vaxxes. What are they trying to do to them with the jabs?

 

This flu jab nonsense is simply a giant money making scam.

 

More tosh from you..........

2 minutes ago, transam said:

More tosh from you..........

You can have mine Trans Sir.

 

I don't take medicine of any kind since 2019. There are better ways to keep healthy.

11 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You can have mine Trans Sir.

 

I don't take medicine of any kind since 2019. There are better ways to keep healthy.

Then you better hope the stuff you took before that doesn't take you out early, well, that's according to you...🤭

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yes, you did post about the failure of Pfizer's mRNA Flu Vaccine in seniors.  

But you seem to consider it Ok that the trial data of that Pfizer Flu-jab published in the NEJM did omit those data, while +60% of the flu-jabs are taken by these seniors.  

The shot for over 65 was no more effective than the existing flu shot, hence the trial failed. I read about that when it happened. My impression was Pfizer was going to conduct further research not seek approval for the current version. Clinical trials fail all the time, They're reported in the medical news but the mainstream media doesn't usually focus on them.

16 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

The shot for over 65 was no more effective than the existing flu shot, hence the trial failed. I read about that when it happened. My impression was Pfizer was going to conduct further research not seek approval for the current version. Clinical trials fail all the time, They're reported in the medical news but the mainstream media doesn't usually focus on them.

What about the farcical Pfizer paper recently published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that claimed Pfizer new mRNA influenza ‘vaccine’ was more effective than the ineffective regular flu vaccine.  

And which did HIDE the mRNA Influenza Vaccine Results for Over-65s? 

2 hours ago, transam said:

Then you better hope the stuff you took before that doesn't take you out early, well, that's according to you...🤭

Just the odd paracetamol before then Trans.

 

Learn to read one's body. It will tell you what it's deficient in, and what it needs.

 

If you need guidance; please PM me.

Farcical? That trial was for the 18-64 age group and it was more effective (by 35%) for that age group. The senior group was left out because it didn't show enhanced effectiveness. As I explained before, Pfizer is working on upgrading its flu shot.

 

You see conspiracies where none exist and miss the ones that do exist. Those 10 kids who supposedly died from the vaccine came from unconfirmed Vaers reports. Prasard was being pressured to come up with some evidence that could be used to ban the covid vaccine for kids, so he had Tracey Hoeg, a sports doctor and antivaxxer, comb through the Vaers reports and find something. Then he refused to make the data public. When career staff objected, he told them they could resign if they didn't like it.

2 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Farcical? That trial was for the 18-64 age group and it was more effective (by 35%) for that age group. The senior group was left out because it didn't show enhanced effectiveness. As I explained before, Pfizer is working on upgrading its flu shot.

 

You see conspiracies where none exist and miss the ones that do exist. Those 10 kids who supposedly died from the vaccine came from unconfirmed Vaers reports. Prasard was being pressured to come up with some evidence that could be used to ban the covid vaccine for kids, so he had Tracey Hoeg, a sports doctor and antivaxxer, comb through the Vaers reports and find something. Then he refused to make the data public. When career staff objected, he told them they could resign if they didn't like it.

 

Nope, the trial ALSO had the +65 group, but when it turned out that those data showed zero benefit, they were conveniently left out of the farcical NEJM study.  And you keep defending such dishonest behavior, or maybe you are 'immune' for it as dishonesty is standard Pfizer procedure.  

With the new FDA policy that dr Prasad announced in that internal memo those cheap tricks won't cut it anymore to have their poison approved...

32 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Just the odd paracetamol before then Trans.

 

Learn to read one's body. It will tell you what it's deficient in, and what it needs.

 

If you need guidance; please PM me.

So, your parents never had you vaxed to fight against the medical threats of the era, like most of us......?  😉

But, of course you will so no, eh......😂

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

What about the farcical Pfizer paper recently published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that claimed Pfizer new mRNA influenza ‘vaccine’ was more effective than the ineffective regular flu vaccine.  

And which did HIDE the mRNA Influenza Vaccine Results for Over-65s? 

You've never heard of the word 'progress' then, as in the progress made with the Flemings penicillin........😉

Of course, you will trash that too, it's what you do..........🥴

1 minute ago, transam said:

So, your parents never had you vaxed to fight against the medical threats of the era, like most of us......?  😉

But, of course you will so no, eh......😂

Yes, I've had vaxxes, injections and medicines down the years. But hardly any since the mid 1990s and none whatsoever for the last 6 years.

 

I wasn't always as enlightened as I am now. Now, I walk it as I talk it. I study nature and have the knowledge that it will not let me down. Have to work with nature. It don't do stuff for nothing.

 

In a couple of hours time, I'll at the farm blessing nature for holding me so close to its bosom. It is just wonderful to know that when the ducks see me, they know I'm there for them. Same with the fish.

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

Yes, I've had vaxxes, injections and medicines down the years. But hardly any since the mid 1990s and none whatsoever for the last 6 years.

 

I wasn't always as enlightened as I am now. Now, I walk it as I talk it. I study nature and have the knowledge that it will not let me down. Have to work with nature. It don't do stuff for nothing.

 

In a couple of hours time, I'll at the farm blessing nature for holding me so close to its bosom. It is just wonderful to know that when the ducks see me, they know I'm there for them. Same with the fish.

Oh, blimey, then your days are numbered, chap, make plans for the funeral, well, according to your past posts, and your Red chum's ................. 🤣

6 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh, blimey, then your days are numbered, chap, make plans for the funeral, well, according to your past posts, and your Red chum's ................. 🤣

Fortunately I'm knowledgeable enough to have negated all the poisons and toxic filth that I once was subjected to.

 

I've taken the spirit of nature into my heart and have not looked back since.

 

Good health is not difficult. Just made to seem so by the treacherous white-coats and their $$$ master.

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Fortunately I'm knowledgeable enough to have negated all the poisons and toxic filth that I once was subjected to.

 

I've taken the spirit of nature into my heart and have not looked back since.

 

Good health is not difficult. Just made to seem so by the treacherous white-coats and their $$$ master.

I thought those jabs you had were inside you for life, plus doing what they do when you had them...............😬

 

I just hate bringing tidings of bad news for you, and the Red bloke...........😒

 

Oh, whilst you're here, cold sores on the lips, herpes simplex, do you get them, or how do you avoid catching the VIRUS.

If you did, you wouldn't use big pharma's fix, I suppose, you know, that costs about 50 bht....🤫

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Personally, I'm still baffled as to what the mRNA vaxxes are actually supposed to achieve. Yes, I know what they say they are for; but what's it really all about. A vaxx to stop yer getting fat; (that's weight challenged between you and me). A vaxx to help yer stop drinking a certain brand of whiskey: (perhaps one originating from China). A vaxx to help with yer love life: (wink, wink). Well these preventions and cures are out there already.

 

Bold claims here. 

Of course it could all be a giant hoax, right?

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168365924006308#:~:text=mRNA-based vaccines have demonstrated,treatment of type 1 diabetes.

 

Green: mRNA delivery is a general tool for a new paradigm of medicine. So it’s much broader than vaccines that can be used in a preventative way; it can be used therapeutically in many ways as well and really touches just about every area of medicine and human health. It can enable very precise and controllable expression of desired genes, and it’s the expression of genes that ultimately really leads to all of our different diseases, so this is a technology that can then be utilized to address virtually all human diseases. …

For example, type 1 diabetes. This is caused by the body’s immune system attacking its own insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas. To treat the disease symptoms, a patient has to frequently inject themselves with insulin and make up for the insulin not being produced. With mRNA technology, we could treat this at the source by reprogramming the immune system to protect and not harm the insulin-producing beta cells. This would essentially cure the disease. This would be wonderful for the patients and their families and would also significantly reduce health care costs. Lifelong diseases that require constant drug dosing could instead become a one-and-done cure.

 

 

8 minutes ago, transam said:

I thought those jabs you had were inside you for life, plus doing what they do when you had them...............😬

 

I just hate bringing tidings of bad news for you, and the Red bloke...........😒

 

Oh, whilst you're here, cold sores on the lips, herpes simplex, do you get them, or how do you avoid catching the VIRUS.

If you did, you wouldn't use big pharma's fix, I suppose, you know, that costs about 50 bht....🤫

I have not had a cold sore for well over 30 years.

 

Because of my lifestyle I'm very unlikely to get any. If I did get one I'd look back into recent history and try to find out why one erupted. 

 

I'd use natural remedies if I thought there was a need. I certainly would not be visiting a white-coat.

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I have not had a cold sore for well over 30 years.

 

Because of my lifestyle I'm very unlikely to get any. If I did get one I'd look back into recent history and try to find out why one erupted. 

 

I'd use natural remedies if I thought there was a need. I certainly would not be visiting a white-coat.

But, herpes simplex IS living with you, it is just waiting to pounce when it feels like it, it is a virus that never leaves, though you do know that.

One day it will probably pay you a visit, then you will scurry off for that big pharma fix, which I did last week, after a few years cold sore free.....🤗

P.S. Don't ell your Red chum you have a VIRUS, he won't be very happy..........😂

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Bold claims here. 

Of course it could all be a giant hoax, right?

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168365924006308#:~:text=mRNA-based vaccines have demonstrated, treatment of type 1 diabetes.

 

Green: mRNA delivery is a general tool for a new paradigm of medicine. So it’s much broader than vaccines that can be used in a preventative way; it can be used therapeutically in many ways as well and really touches just about every area of medicine and human health. It can enable very precise and controllable expression of desired genes, and it’s the expression of genes that ultimately really leads to all of our different diseases, so this is a technology that can then be utilized to address virtually all human diseases. …

For example, type 1 diabetes. This is caused by the body’s immune system attacking its own insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas. To treat the disease symptoms, a patient has to frequently inject themselves with insulin and make up for the insulin not being produced. With mRNA technology, we could treat this at the source by reprogramming the immune system to protect and not harm the insulin-producing beta cells. This would essentially cure the disease. This would be wonderful for the patients and their families and would also significantly reduce health care costs. Lifelong diseases that require constant drug dosing could instead become a one-and-done cure.

 

 

It's all a load of gobblegook Frogs Sir.

 

There are natural preventative measures; and cures. They are provided by nature. Just have to learn to read the body and give it what it's asking for. 

 

The idea of disease is old hat. There is no such thing in my world. MRNA goes against nature, so some bodies will be subjected to the most unnatural entities. The whole thing is anti-nature at work. And as usual traitorous white-coats and the $$$ are right at the heart of it all.

 

MRNA procedures are gonna be the next big killer IMO.

 

4 minutes ago, transam said:

But, herpes simplex IS living with you, it is just waiting to pounce when it feels like it, it is a virus that never leaves, though you do know that.

One day it will probably pay you a visit, then you will scurry off for that big pharma fix, which I did last week, after a few years cold sore free.....🤗

P.S. Don't ell your Red chum you have a VIRUS, he won't be very happy..........😂

If you say so Trans Sir.

 

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

It's all a load of gobblegook Frogs Sir.

 

There are natural preventative measures; and cures. They are provided by nature. Just have to learn to read the body and give it what it's asking for. 

 

The idea of disease is old hat. There is no such thing in my world. MRNA goes against nature, so some bodies will be subjected to the most unnatural entities. The whole thing is anti-nature at work. And as usual traitorous white-coats and the $$$ are right at the heart of it all.

 

MRNA procedures are gonna be the next big killer IMO.

 

Then how do YOU cure herpes simplex, a VIRUS that lays dormant in YOUR body........?

How do YOU cure Psoriasis, which has run in my family for generations......?  🤫

1 hour ago, transam said:

Then how do YOU cure herpes simplex, a VIRUS that lays dormant in YOUR body........?

How do YOU cure Psoriasis, which has run in my family for generations......?  🤫

Come on transam, don't get drawn into a discussion/argument with someone who is not "the full quid", as the saying goes!

This should help......

2 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Come on transam, don't get drawn into a discussion/argument with someone who is not "the full quid", as the saying goes!

I know, but it is fun......🤭

6 minutes ago, xylophone said:

don't get drawn into a discussion/argument with someone who is not "the full quid", as the saying goes!

 

Absolute mental case...    the extent of the delusion is truly astonishing - even other anti-vaxxers have surely identified this and are distancing themselves by now... 

 

 

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Absolute mental case...    the extent of the delusion is truly astonishing - even other anti-vaxxers have surely identified this and are distancing themselves by now... 

 

 

Yep, so I'm going up the pub............

2 hours ago, transam said:

But, herpes simplex IS living with you, it is just waiting to pounce when it feels like it, it is a virus that never leaves, though you do know that.

One day it will probably pay you a visit, then you will scurry off for that big pharma fix, which I did last week, after a few years cold sore free.....🤗

P.S. Don't ell your Red chum you have a VIRUS, he won't be very happy..........😂

Hi Transman > Ever heard of a phenomenon called projection? Nnice text-book case you provided here. 😜