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6 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

 

The above comment shows that you have a fundamentally flawed understanding about the nature of racial and gender discrimination, and how affirmative action and DEI programs were designed to improve employment opportunities for marginalized groups. These programs were never about "lowering standards." They were an effort to offset systemic and individual personal biases (both conscious and unconscious) which unfairly favored white males. For example, a white male hiring another white male because he went to the same high school as him, knew his father, belonged to the same country club, etc., etc., all factors which had nothing to do with his qualifications for the job, but which gave the white male an unfair advantage at the time of hiring or promotion.

but a black person hiring another black person  because they were in the same gang, shared the same prison cell , or perhaps the same father ( in the rare cases that they actually knew their father)  that would be perfectly ok? 

DEI is by its design a complete failure and can only result in the lowering of standards, 

The only acceptable alternative would be some sort of totally anonymous assessment process,but that might well produce results that the likes of you are "uncomfortable" with. although that would indeed validate it 

11 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Biden at 14 tells all. 

tells me the list is a load of rubbish how can the other 31 be considered worse than that old fool.  Of course Trump was bound to be in last place, who compiled the b/s list ?    The women from the view? or just random idiots from tiktok and facebook?

5 hours ago, AlexRich said:

I didn’t want a life of crime. And Daddy didn’t give me $250 million. Trumps wealth comes from inheritance and corruption. Meme coin anyone? 

 "a life of crime"     lol        But Trump being the "idiot"  has been bankrupt dozens of times, surely his inheritance was squandered  years ago.    you can't have it both ways

6 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The above comment shows that you have a fundamental lack of understanding about what the results of affirmative action actually are.

 

Thanks to Obama and the left, now about 70% of the population is in a marginalized group, Harvard has had to start teaching remedial math, and college graduates are working as baristas, and you have to have a college degree to be fireman. 

 

Meanwhile, K-12 test scores are generally in the toilet. 

 

Sure, the idea of affirmative action and DEI programs is good, but like most every leftist idea, in practice, it does more harm than good. 

 

It's Marxism, but with race and "gender" replacing class. Now, Michelle Obama, worth $100M is oppressed because she black, and Joe Bagadoughnuts driving a forklift in Bakersfield that lives in a single-wide is her oppressor because he's white. 

 

Rejoice all you want over the ending of affirmative action and DEI programs, but when you consider the advantages that wealth and income inequality afford to the wealthy in terms of access to educational and employment opportunities, I think you are deluding yourself if you think you, 'Joe Bagadoughnuts' or members of the ASEANNOW Volkssterm  are going to have an easier time climbing the corporate ladder as a result.

 

Consider, for example, the below interactive Opportunity Atlas study which shows the correlation between the zip code you were raised in and your chances of achieving upward social mobility. You also ignore the benefits of improved social fabric and human resource productivity that these programs attempted to achieve. Your regurgitated Trump propaganda about Harvard having a remedial math program has also been debunked.

 

https://www.opportunityatlas.org/

 

https://apnews.com/article/harvard-remedial-math-classes-fact-check-trump-287a26ef30a1f9e77d3d2d3830afeb07

 

 

39 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

but a black person hiring another black person  because they were in the same gang, shared the same prison cell , or perhaps the same father ( in the rare cases that they actually knew their father)  that would be perfectly ok? 

DEI is by its design a complete failure and can only result in the lowering of standards, 

The only acceptable alternative would be some sort of totally anonymous assessment process,but that might well produce results that the likes of you are "uncomfortable" with. although that would indeed validate it 

 

I hate to break the news to you but a white guy with scrambled eggs for brains is not going to have a better chance of getting ahead because DEI was eliminated.

3 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

 

I hate to break the news to you but a white guy with scrambled eggs for brains is not going to have a better chance of getting ahead because DEI was eliminated.

At least he will be considered on his merits or lack of, rather than being excluded outright due to his immutable characteristics. 

30 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

tells me the list is a load of rubbish how can the other 31 be considered worse than that old fool.  Of course Trump was bound to be in last place, who compiled the b/s list ?    The women from the view? or just random idiots from tiktok and facebook?

 

It is APSA according to the image :  https://apsanet.org/

 

But APSA may be just a tad wokey wokey:

https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/why_im_leaving_the_political_science_association

Just now, Gecko123 said:

 

I hate to break the news to you but a white guy with scrambled eggs for brains is not going to have a better chance of getting ahead because DEI was eliminated.

So what's the problem  the best will always succeed,  the detritus will always sink to the bottom. Lets eliminate DEI and let nature take its course unhindered, Its the only way and you know it as well as me. 

    Of course there are white idiots and half wits  but as much as you refuse to accept it there are Black , Hispanic, and Asian idiots and halfwits too, and plenty of them 

6 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

 

I hate to break the news to you but a white guy with scrambled eggs for brains is not going to have a better chance of getting ahead because DEI was eliminated.

 

What?

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

It is APSA according to the image :  https://apsanet.org/

 

But APSA may be just a tad wokey wokey:

https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/why_im_leaving_the_political_science_association

lol  I would never have guessed, 

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

 "a life of crime"     lol        But Trump being the "idiot"  has been bankrupt dozens of times, surely his inheritance was squandered  years ago.    you can't have it both ways

The businesses went bankrupt, not Trump.

 

For example, a Chinese company floats on the NYSE using fraudulent listing documents, it uses the money raised to buy companies owned by friends or acquaintances at an inflated price, siphoning off the money raised. When the company declares bankruptcy all the money is gone. But the originators are rich, with other people’s money. 

 

Trump is a scammer, except he uses loans that he never pays back, and uses  contractors but never pays them what he owes. He’s a criminal and a fraudster … and almost half of the US voted for him knowing that. Go figure?

On 12/19/2025 at 12:00 PM, Gecko123 said:

Obamacare was a compromise because Republicans refused to consider a "direct pay" insurance system which would have cut the health insurance industry out of the picture. (The health insurance industry gobbles up a huge percentage of premiums for overhead and corporate profit.) Most flaws in Obamacare can be attributed to the fact that it's not a universal program which is what the original goal was, and the fact that it was ditched should be laid squarely at the feet of the Republican party. 

 

..... "and the fact that it was ditched should be laid squarely at the feet of the Republican party. "

Actually meaning that the health insurance companies stopped financing the GOP because the GOP stopped supporting the health insurance companies.

On 12/19/2025 at 11:41 AM, scorecard said:

 

No I don't agree at all. Please share some solid reasons for your statement.

And there's no response /  no reasons stated.  I say again "No I don't agree at all. Please share some solid reasons for your statement."

Off Topic post removed 

 

@MarcusAurelius

12 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Trump is a scammer, except he uses loans that he never pays back, and uses  contractors but never pays them what he owes. He’s a criminal and a fraudster … and almost half of the US voted for him knowing that. Go figure?

its obvious , putting it simply he was the best option, says a lot about the opposition doesn't it?     Perhaps you should have a go at figuring it out 

21 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

For example, a white male hiring another white male because he went to the same high school as him, knew his father, belonged to the same country club, etc., etc., all factors which had nothing to do with his qualifications for the job, but which gave the white male an unfair advantage at the time of hiring or promotion.

What about the white males who's fathers were not members of the same country club etc etc   are they not disadvantaged as well?   Does DEI  help them in any way ?  

But precisely Why is Trump evil? Maybe his support of genocide in Israel? 

 

Which specific actions please 

 

 

Mike Benz on USAID - The poster child of evil 

 

3 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

What about the white males who's fathers were not members of the same country club etc etc   are they not disadvantaged as well?   Does DEI  help them in any way ?  

 

It sounds like it is starting to dawn on you that non-white people are not your enemy, and you just might have more in common with them than you realize. This is especially true today when wealth is concentrated in the hands of such a tiny percentage of the population, meaning that huge portions of the population, including less advantaged whites, are excluded from elite education, elite social circles, elite neighborhoods, elite political influence, etc. Instead of doubling down on the David Duke rhetoric, which, quite disturbingly, you seem to have more than a passing familiarity with, the time might be ripe for you to start reflecting on who the real enemy is. 

 

In answer to your second question, white females benefited enormously from affirmative action and DEI programs, which, if they were part of a household with a white male, indirectly benefited white males. But, again your questions imply that affirmative action and DEI programs were designed to allow for the hiring of unqualified people based on their race or gender, which was simply not the case. The intent was to make an effort to extend opportunity to a person who was otherwise fully qualified for the job in order to offset the disadvantages he or she faced due to systemic and conscious/unconscious prejudice, discrimination and racism. The system may not have been perfect, but in my opinion, the opponents of these programs, are disregarding both the benefits they offered in terms of improved socio-economic health of the social fabric and vitality of the US economy, as well as the societal and economic impacts their discontinuation will have.

43 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

 

It sounds like it is starting to dawn on you that non-white people are not your enemy, and you just might have more in common with them than you realize. This is especially true today when wealth is concentrated in the hands of such a tiny percentage of the population, meaning that huge portions of the population, including less advantaged whites, are excluded from elite education, elite social circles, elite neighborhoods, elite political influence, etc. Instead of doubling down on the David Duke rhetoric, which, quite disturbingly, you seem to have more than a passing familiarity with, the time might be ripe for you to start reflecting on who the real enemy is. 

 

In answer to your second question, white females benefited enormously from affirmative action and DEI programs, which, if they were part of a household with a white male, indirectly benefited white males. But, again your questions imply that affirmative action and DEI programs were designed to allow for the hiring of unqualified people based on their race or gender, which was simply not the case. The intent was to make an effort to extend opportunity to a person who was otherwise fully qualified for the job in order to offset the disadvantages he or she faced due to systemic and conscious/unconscious prejudice, discrimination and racism. The system may not have been perfect, but in my opinion, the opponents of these programs, are disregarding both the benefits they offered in terms of improved socio-economic health of the social fabric and vitality of the US economy, as well as the societal and economic impacts their discontinuation will have.

          I have never stated or implied that "non white" people are the enemy and despite what you or others may think I am not a racist . It would be a very poor businessman who elected to employ  anything less than the best personnel for the job regardless of colour or creed,  Although they should of course be free to employ anybody they want

          There are plenty of sikhs working in the Uk in the construction industry I have no issues with that, Pakistanis however are a very rare sight, some will of course scream that this is evidence of racism, without ever considering the fact that they simply don't want to engage in that sort of work preferring to drive taxis or open a corner shop for example.              Women are also a relatively rare sight in construction, especially at the sharp end, is this evidence of sexism ? No, of course not ,  most women somewhat understandably ,do not relish the prospect of working outside in all weathers, often in difficult and dangerous circumstances, who could blame them for that

            I don't agree with any discrimination positive or negative 

I have never heard of david duke  neither do i wish to , daisy duke was enough for me

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

          I have never stated or implied that "non white" people are the enemy and despite what you or others may think I am not a racist . It would be a very poor businessman who elected to employ  anything less than the best personnel for the job regardless of colour or creed,  Although they should of course be free to employ anybody they want

          There are plenty of sikhs working in the Uk in the construction industry I have no issues with that, Pakistanis however are a very rare sight, some will of course scream that this is evidence of racism, without ever considering the fact that they simply don't want to engage in that sort of work preferring to drive taxis or open a corner shop for example.              Women are also a relatively rare sight in construction, especially at the sharp end, is this evidence of sexism ? No, of course not ,  most women somewhat understandably ,do not relish the prospect of working outside in all weathers, often in difficult and dangerous circumstances, who could blame them for that

            I don't agree with any discrimination positive or negative 

I have never heard of david duke  neither do i wish to , daisy duke was enough for me

"despite what you or others may think I am not a racist"

 

You posted the following in this thread:

 

"but a black person hiring another black person  because they were in the same gang, shared the same prison cell , or perhaps the same father ( in the rare cases that they actually knew their father)  that would be perfectly ok? "

 

I think it establishes conclusively that you are a racist.

 

15 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

"despite what you or others may think I am not a racist"

 

You posted the following in this thread:

 

"but a black person hiring another black person  because they were in the same gang, shared the same prison cell , or perhaps the same father ( in the rare cases that they actually knew their father)  that would be perfectly ok? "

 

I think it establishes conclusively that you are a racist.

 

I know full well what I posted and expected such a predictable  response.  

How can asking a valid question ever be evidence of racism,? 

It's certainly no more racist than suggesting all white people are advantaged due to them all  being  members of country clubs or having attended elitist  or indeed any school were they made their racist "contacts"

            Many whites are members of street gangs, and many have made contacts whilst in prison , and some have never  even met their fathers, why did that not get a mention?  just the suggestion of country clubs and old boy networks from elitist schools, to reinforce a narrative of white supremacy

         Are you suggesting that there are no blacks in prison ?, no blacks are members of street gangs? do all of them come from two parent families?, and  have none of them ever fathered multiple children which they then abandoned.

          That would clearly be as ridiculous as your objection to me highlighting what is just an uncomfortable truth,  for you

          You need to check your own racism although it must be a lot easier just to scream your accusations at others and hope nobody looks too closely at yourself

            Its not me ,   its you

22 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I know full well what I posted and expected such a predictable  response.  

How can asking a valid question ever be evidence of racism,? 

It's certainly no more racist than suggesting all white people are advantaged due to them all  being  members of country clubs or having attended elitist  or indeed any school were they made their racist "contacts"

            Many whites are members of street gangs, and many have made contacts whilst in prison , and some have never  even met their fathers, why did that not get a mention?  just the suggestion of country clubs and old boy networks from elitist schools, to reinforce a narrative of white supremacy

         Are you suggesting that there are no blacks in prison ?, no blacks are members of street gangs? do all of them come from two parent families?, and  have none of them ever fathered multiple children which they then abandoned.

          That would clearly be as ridiculous as your objection to me highlighting what is just an uncomfortable truth,  for you

          You need to check your own racism although it must be a lot easier just to scream your accusations at others and hope nobody looks too closely at yourself

            Its not me ,   its you

Racist.

You think you are clever posting your sad little arguments.

You are transparently racist.

You also seem to be a miserable SOB and I think you deserve your well-earned misery.

6 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Racist.

You think you are clever posting your sad little arguments.

You are transparently racist.

You also seem to be a miserable SOB and I think you deserve your well-earned misery.

"sad little arguments" that have exposed your hypocrisy, leading to the inevitable insults and of course further  accusations of racism 

9 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

          I have never stated or implied that "non white" people are the enemy and despite what you or others may think I am not a racist . It would be a very poor businessman who elected to employ  anything less than the best personnel for the job regardless of colour or creed,  Although they should of course be free to employ anybody they want

          There are plenty of sikhs working in the Uk in the construction industry I have no issues with that, Pakistanis however are a very rare sight, some will of course scream that this is evidence of racism, without ever considering the fact that they simply don't want to engage in that sort of work preferring to drive taxis or open a corner shop for example.              Women are also a relatively rare sight in construction, especially at the sharp end, is this evidence of sexism ? No, of course not ,  most women somewhat understandably ,do not relish the prospect of working outside in all weathers, often in difficult and dangerous circumstances, who could blame them for that

            I don't agree with any discrimination positive or negative 

I have never heard of david duke  neither do i wish to , daisy duke was enough for me

 

It happens everywhere. I'm well aware of a gobal professional firm which has a sizeable office in Thailand. 99% Thai staff, must have a hint of Chinese is their face, very white skin, expensive car, at least 2 master degrees from top name universities, one must be an MBA, both can be MBAs.   

 

Family name well known and wealthy also an advantage.

On 12/20/2025 at 4:24 AM, Jim Blue said:

That's a new one 'worsen"????

Have to check that one out?

On 12/20/2025 at 7:21 AM, cdemundo said:

Good eye.

I think the correct word is "worsify" or "embadden".

Your illiteracy is shameful.

Perhaps the two of you are worsening each other's literacy. 

You write this because you have a low IQ?

 „…or was he just low IQ?“

 

A rude and stupid comment.

I wish you a happy life.

You don‘t seem to be able to have one.

Posts with derogatory nicknames, intentional misspellings, or personal remarks will be removed. Spell names correctly for all sides of the debate.

46 minutes ago, novacova said:

Your illiteracy is shameful.

Perhaps the two of you are worsening each other's literacy. 

 

Yep. They're worsen a pair of old ladies.  

2 hours ago, novacova said:

Your illiteracy is shameful.

Perhaps the two of you are worsening each other's literacy. 

oops!

novacova is right, worsen is a legit word.

Apologies.