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Does the left want Islam as the dominant religion in the west?

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Where do you read this garbage?

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4 minutes ago, PeterA said:

Where do you read this garbage?

This forum and the general anti west sentiment, is the basis of this thread

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No.  But that does not mean we don't want to let them live in the USA just like all the other religions.

Try to remember, people first came to America because they wanted religious freedom. It sounds as if, now that YOU have YOUR religious freedom, you want to deny it to others.

Why do you think that is?

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3 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

No.  But that does not mean we don't want to let them live in the USA just like all the other religions.

Try to remember, people first came to America because they wanted religious freedom. It sounds as if, now that YOU have YOUR religious freedom, you want to deny it to others.

Why do you think that is?

None of the previous religions moving to the USA wanted to kill everyone else though.

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42 minutes ago, angryguy said:

Time to address the elephant in the room

 

You go first.

 

Show me the elephant.

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

None of the previous religions moving to the USA wanted to kill everyone else though.

 

Neither does Islam.

22 minutes ago, angryguy said:

This forum and the general anti west sentiment, is the basis of this thread

 

Get over yourself.

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43 minutes ago, angryguy said:

Time to address the elephant in the room

Seems to me, the only elephant in the room is you, what a daft thread........:coffee1:

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28 minutes ago, PeterA said:

Where do you read this garbage?

 

he can't read

 

he saw a youtube

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I am not a lefty or a righty, but I do follow Brian.  Can we make this the dominant religion, pretty please 🙏🏻

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No. Of course not. Something must be done to keep out the extremist super freaks. Their religion may work for them in Saudi, Kuwait, Yemen, Sudan or Somalia. That same ultra conservative fanatislcism, is not wanted, needed, nor desirable in Western nations. Only moderates need apply should be the policy. And there should be a standard of willingness to assimilate, and the burden should be on the family to prove the burden is met.

 

I believe immigration policy should be reformed to the point where it should be staged, and all Muslim families should show a willingness to assimilate. I also believe that families with Muslim daughters who are teenagers can start by proving that they have participated in a two piece bikini contest, in front of at least 1,000 men, and for teenage boys they must show a burden of proof that they're not affiliated with any of the local madrasas or extremist clerics. 

 

Are we serious about keeping our nation's safe from extremists, or not? 

 

This will probably be interpreted as a racist statement but for a long time I've been saying that immigration criteria for Saudis should be unique and singular and far strictly then normal immigration for other people from other parts of the world

It must never be forgotten that but Saudi's practice the most extreme form of islam, a hateful and horrific interpretation that is completely intolerant of other religions and is the exact opposite of what most of us would regard as any kind of positive faith. 

 

Huge and very strict restrictions should be put on their ability to immigrate, essentially they are not wanted and they are not needed, and for the most part they are not of any benefit to a society that let them in, as it is very unlikely they will ever integrate. 

 

Why am I anti Wahhabi? Why do I think all Saudis should be barred worldwide from immigrating to any nation? Why do I consider the Saudis so dangerous to mankind? 

 

But it is an ideology that divides the world into the realm of Islam and the realm of the infidel, or the realm of war. So it trains the readers that they live behind enemy lines – they must be passing through, they cannot take abode here. You only have two reasons for being in the land of the infidel. One is to convert people to Islam. The second is to acquire either money or skill which you can bring back with you to help you and others engage in jihad, and in this context, it is quite clear that they mean that in a military sense, because they go on to talk about tanks and bullets, and things of this kind. One of the things you certainly cannot do is become an American citizen, because no Muslim can be ruled an infidel.

 

That is the particular ideology which is being taught. You must not have any good contacts, warm relations with anybody – not only with unbelievers, but with any Muslim who is not of the Wahhabi type; they are also often denounced as apostates. That is the major theme of concern in that report.

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2005/05/03/the-global-spread-of-wahhabi-islam-how-great-a-threat/

 

 

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19 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

None of the previous religions moving to the USA wanted to kill everyone else though.

Tell that to the native Americans who were slaughtered !

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22 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

No.  But that does not mean we don't want to let them live in the USA just like all the other religions.

Try to remember, people first came to America because they wanted religious freedom. It sounds as if, now that YOU have YOUR religious freedom, you want to deny it to others.

Why do you think that is?

I respect women and have no problem with gays, thats western values. Its not working for europe, incompatible cultures

54 minutes ago, angryguy said:

Time to address the elephant in the room

Yes for sure!

Time to address hatred from all sides,thank you?

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57 minutes ago, angryguy said:

Does the left want Islam as the dominant religion in the west?

They don’t know what they want, they’re incapable of projecting a long term definition.

27 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

No.  But that does not mean we don't want to let them live in the USA just like all the other religions.

…a good example of the naivety of the left, no forethought whatsoever, just bleeding heart blindness.

4 minutes ago, jvs said:

Tell that to the native Americans who were slaughtered !

Who were in turn slaughtering each other.   

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12 minutes ago, jvs said:

Tell that to the native Americans who were slaughtered !

Don't think that was a religious action.

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Just now, BritManToo said:

Don't think that was a religious action.

Does that really make a difference ? Dead is dead.

15 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Neither does Islam.

Yes, they do. 

8 minutes ago, jvs said:

Does that really make a difference ? Dead is dead.

Sure it makes a difference to white folk.

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24 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

None of the previous religions moving to the USA wanted to kill everyone else though.

I imagine you believe that all people who follow Islam want to kill you.  Your paranoia defines you. 

4 minutes ago, jvs said:

Yes for sure!

Time to address hatred from all sides,thank you?

You can start your own topic about who you hate, but this one is about the hatred spewing from Islam and it's existential incompatibility with Western values

3 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Who were in turn slaughtering each other. Times have changed.

The left have no interest in historical facts…

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10 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

I imagine you believe that all people who follow Islam want to kill you.  Your paranoia defines you. 

No, I believe religious extremists are a danger to everyone else.

And Islam is especially dangerous to Jews, gays and women.

If you believe in their rights, you can't also support Islam.

 

Growing a beard and getting up a bit earlier isn't really a big problem for me, I can fit in.

But I'd like gays the right to be gay, Jews the right not to be murdered, and women the right to go to school and not be the property of men.

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Islam isn't the problem.  Radicalization of anything IS the problem.
Radical Islam
Radical Jewdism

Radical Christiandom
Radical Buddhist
Radical Atheism 

Radical <enter a political stance>
Radical nationalism
Radical ethnocentrism
Radical sexulaity

Take the "Radical" away, and any of those thing are generally benign, including Islam.

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19 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Neither does Islam.

Yes, they do. 

 

Oh no, they don't.

 

Don't you just love pantomime season?

14 minutes ago, Wydahoan said:

I am not a lefty or a righty, but I do follow Brian.  Can we make this the dominant religion, pretty please 🙏🏻

 

1 minute ago, novacova said:

The left have no interest in historical facts…

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"The Left", honestly, I find it amazing how stupid it is people keep quoting the "Left" on anything and everything.

Try to be a bit more original, the lefty train has left the station, chap....................🙄

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