Unlike Charlie Kirk, no one is celebrating this woman's death.

Why do you suppose that is?

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Unlike Charlie Kirk, no one is celebrating this woman's death.

Why do you suppose that is?

The murder if Charlie Kirk was roundly condemned across the political spectrum.

Additionally, his alleged murderer is not a Federal Agent.

Go find another sore to pick.

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The killer had plenty of time to step out of the way of the vehicle, and did exactly that.

Then shot his victim in the face.

Cold blooded murder.

"Cold blood murder" is an idiomatic expression that means a premeditated and intentional killing that is carried out without any emotional or moral qualms or remorse, typically in a calm and calculated manner."

You're making yourself look silly with the drama.

15 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Terrorism is the inflicting of terror upon a group of people, and many Americans at this point would say that ICE has been engaging in a form of domestic terrorism. They are certainly giving a bad name to law enforcement in general. And they're certainly making Trump look like a wannabe autocrat or dictator. Which he is aspiring towards, no doubt.

This is not terrorism. Only a low level thinking person would make this claim.

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

"Cold blood murder" is an idiomatic expression that means a premeditated and intentional killing that is carried out without any emotional or moral qualms or remorse, typically in a calm and calculated manner."

You're making yourself look silly with the drama.

The left is always over that top with inflammatory language.

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

"Cold blood murder" is an idiomatic expression that means a premeditated and intentional killing that is carried out without any emotional or moral qualms or remorse, typically in a calm and calculated manner."

You're making yourself look silly with the drama.

The language used by the killer immediately after having shot a woman in the face three times is not indicative of him having any moral qualms over ending her life.

Far from it, it indicates visceral hatred of women.

And he provided the evidence himself, perhaps totally unaware of how much he was revealing about his own mindset.

Just now, Effective altruism said:

The left is always over that top with inflammatory language.

An odd ting to say given what the killer said immediately after shooting his victim in the face three times.

2 minutes ago, Effective altruism said:

This is not terrorism. Only a low level thinking person would make this claim.

A Government in desperate need of cover for its actions would make the claim.

Only a low level thinking person would swallow it.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The language used by the killer immediately after having shot a woman

There is no proof it was him that said those words. All we know is a voice on the recording said that. Not who the voice is. A voice analysis may be able to correctly id who it was. Until then.

You're speculating.

Just saw this on Facebook, posted by Adam Miller. I know it is long but well worth reading. It clearly lays out just what an ICE agent is, and what an ICE agent is NOT. It clearly lays out what an American's rights are regarding interaction with ICE agents. It clearly lays out the limited area ICE agents should be working under. It clearly lays out all the mistakes and rule violations the ICE agents made in the Good case. Worth your time to read, I think. Here it is:

"It is clear that US citizens' ignorance of federal laws and law enforcement duties, procedures, and limits of authority is getting to the point where it is deadly. I spent probably 3 hours watching and re-watching, and finding every single video and angle I could of the situation in Minnesota yesterday and came to one immovable conclusion based off of what I saw and what I know from a professional standpoint. This is long, but please give it a read.

"As a former officer, let me make something clear: ICE agents ARE NOT police officers, deputy sheriffs, or troopers. They are not local/state law enforcement. They are not federal criminal law enforcement. They have an INCREDIBLY limited scope of authority, and that scope of authority exists in detaining and arresting with probable cause and/or SIGNED WARRANTS those investigated and suspected of being in the US illegally.

"They cannot just pull anyone over for a traffic violation or because their car is in a place they don't want it. They have NO authority to pull people over for ANYTHING other than immigration enforcement- and even then that involves probable cause, such as a known vehicle of someone they have been tracking, or a warrant. On very rare occasions they have the legal authority to pull someone over if they are threatening the lives of others, but that was not happening in this case. They do not have the training nor the authority to pull ANYONE else over. They cannot arrest legal citizens. They cannot detain legal citizens without probable cause to believe they might not be legal. They have ZERO authority to be attempting to force entry into a vehicle- without even identifying themselves, without a warrant, without exigent circumstances such as a life being directly threatened- that is trying to drive down the street without probable cause in relation to IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

"This ENTIRE situation in Minnesota was outside of the scope of legal authority from the get go. None of it was done within the scope of authority of ICE. Every single behavior those agents made was procedurally incorrect, done without proper authority, and was based off of intimidation and the assumption that people do not understand the law and their rights in regards to interactions with ICE.

"On no planet should an officer, agent, or any human being ever step in front of a car in 'drive' that is actively trying to leave and use their body as a shield to prevent a person from LEGALLY LEAVING a situation in which they are not legally being detained. It takes maybe a week of any kind of actual law enforcement training to understand that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you ever place yourself in front of a vehicle in 'drive.' That agent had every single opportunity to simply take two steps to the right and not be standing directly in front of a vehicle attempting to conduct their legal right to drive away.

"You can see the wheels are turned, [Renee] backed up and turned them to the right, moved forward a bit to leave, couldn't because an agent was standing in front of her, and continued to try to leave by TURNING HER WHEELS TO THE RIGHT and moving forward. He continually chose to stand there and not allow her to legally leave as she had every single right to do.

The officer pulling on her door and banging on her window and swearing at her had ZERO authority to order her out of her vehicle or attempt to make entry into her vehicle. NONE. A single day of actual training of the legal scope of authority and the LAW would've prevented that from happening.

"You now have a frightened citizen being blockaded by immigration agents (with another person in her vehicle) who had zero obligation to follow legally invalid orders from that agent, being blocked in and having a fully grown, masked man attempting to make entry into her car. If this were reversed, every single person would immediately feel she had every reasonable expectation to fear for her safety. It doesn't matter if she knew it was ICE because the agents weren't even acting in their scope of authority anyway.

"Whether or not she made the right decision by very CLEARLY- based off of how hard her wheels were turned and how low and to the driver corner windshield that shot was fired- trying to drive to the left of that agent is IRRELEVANT in the picture as a whole.

None of this would have happened if those agents had done even one single thing correctly. Not just correctly, but within their legal scope of authority. Every single moment of that interaction was escalated by untrained, unprofessional, procedurally inept "agents" who not only had zero control of themselves but everything around them. And not because they are helpless, but because their actions that did not fall under their scope of power CAUSED this. Their tempers, lack of training, and the knowledge that they can get away with violating their own scope of authority caused this.

"I will always be the first to defend law enforcement when lethal force very clearly is required. But this was not even remotely the case, and as an actual TRAINED professional in that field with experience and understanding of both the law and procedures, there is no justification for this- and it would benefit EVERYONE to actually read up on the laws, scope of authority, and use a single shred of common sense to see that this situation was started, escalated, and caused by the ICE agents involved. I have zero respect for those in power who are ignorant of the scope of their authority and abuse it at the cost of lives around them."

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The murder if Charlie Kirk was roundly condemned across the political spectrum.

Additionally, his alleged murderer is not a Federal Agent.

Go find another sore to pick.

Roundy condemned? Not here.

In any event, only one side was celebrating

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24 minutes ago, blaze master said:

There is no proof it was him that said those words. All we know is a voice on the recording said that. Not who the voice is. A voice analysis may be able to correctly id who it was. Until then.

You're speculating.

Live in hope.

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No Jonny, she was not mocking him and she didn’t try to run him over.

The officer hasn’t saved himself.

He’s committed cold blooded murder in view of multiple witnesses and multiple video cameras.

His vile cursing of his victim after having shot her in the face is in stark contrast to her conciliatory words that he himself recorded on video.

Now he needs to hope for a pardon from Trump so as to avoid Federal prosecution…. Oh but then Minnesota has jurisdiction to bring its own case.

He might prefer a Federal prison to being locked up in a State Penitentiary, especially one with a population of immigrant inmates.

His life as he knew it is over.

I hope for her and her children’s sake his wife gets herself and their kids away from this woman killer.

If she’s any sense she’ll divorce him while there’s still some equity left in their marriage, his legal bills are going to impoverish him; no need for her and their kids to suffer too.

So vitriolic. Your glib mocking tone has disappeared as quickly as hers did.

Personally I think it's long overdue that these violent leftists are held to account. Its good to see the law being upheld. Nothing will happen to him nor should it. Self defense.

Obviously the violent leftists types could be incited to vigilante revenge violence by Internet tough guys like you. Maybe you should think about that.

18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Roundy condemned? Not here.

In any event, only one side was celebrating

You might not have condemned Kirk’s murder.

I certainly did.

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Live in hope.

I see you struggle with basic concepts too.

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

So vitriolic. Your glib mocking tone has disappeared as quickly as hers did.

Not so fast. Its next reply is back in form.

4 minutes ago, blaze master said:

I see you struggle with basic concepts too.

Not so fast. Its next reply is back in form.

Remember him going on about how her death would help the left in the midterms?

Always classy, the left

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

So vitriolic. Your glib mocking tone has disappeared as quickly as hers did.

Personally I think it's long overdue that these violent leftists are held to account. Its good to see the law being upheld. Nothing will happen to him nor should it. Self defense.

Obviously the violent leftists types could be incited to vigilante revenge violence by Internet tough guys like you. Maybe you should think about that.

Perhaps your self declared love of seeing violence against a woman is clouding your judgement.

I admit my support for bringing murderers to justice, especially when they commit murder in full view of the public and multiple video cameras.

There’s nothing ‘vigilante’ or ‘internet strongman’ about supporting the due process of the local DA and Minnesota AG delivering justice to Renee Good’s killer.

Sadly we can’t rely on the DOJ or FBI doing likewise.

6 minutes ago, blaze master said:

I see you struggle with basic concepts too.

Not so fast. Its next reply is back in form.

I don’t struggle with the concept of murder in plain sight of the public and multiple video recorders.

I certainly do not struggle with the concept of the Sovereignty of States and the power of the people of Minnesota to deliver justice to Renee Good’s killer.

Sadly we can’t rely on the DOJ or FBI doing likewise.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I don’t struggle with the concept of murder in plain sight of the public and multiple video recorders.

I certainly do not struggle with the concept of the Sovereignty of States and the power of the people of Minnesota to deliver justice to Renee Good’s killer.

Sadly we can’t rely on the DOJ or FBI doing likewise.

Good thing all that mumbo jumbo you just wrote has nothing to do with what I said.

10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Remember him going on about how her death would help the left in the midterms?

Always classy, the left

You think a Federal Agent shooting a mother in the face three times and then calling her [omitted to comply with forum profanity rules] followed by Trump and his administration backing the killer isn’t going to impact the mid terms?

18 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Another one that doesnt believe his own eyes, LOL.

ProTip: When a cop tells you to get out of a car, get out.

Ice arent cops and have no authority for traffic stops or detention without a warrant. Check the laws

Cop had his gun drawn befire tve car was miving forward and the kady told ice she was keaving

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The language used by the killer immediately after having shot a woman in the face three times is not indicative of him having any moral qualms over ending her life.

Far from it, it indicates visceral hatred of women.

And he provided the evidence himself, perhaps totally unaware of how much he was revealing about his own mindset.

You're letting emotions override common sense. Again.

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

You're letting emotions override common sense. Again.

You could try disputing the points I made rather than observing a perfectly natural emotional response to a mother being shot in the face three times.

Let’s hear your common sense arguments?

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You think a Federal Agent shooting a mother in the face three times and then calling her [omitted to comply with forum profanity rules] followed by Trump and his administration backing the killer isn’t going to impact the mid terms?

I hadn't thought about it until you started going on about how great this poor woman's death would be for the left in the midterms.

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I hadn't thought about it until you started going on about how great this poor woman's death would be for the left in the midterms.

Which is not what I said.

So perhaps you ought to think about it.

6 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Your posting stupid $hit because you dont know better. The lady told them she was leaving and already turned her wheels away from the ice agent. He pulled his gun before she was moving forward and he leaned over the hood to shoot her. Check the law. He had no authority to stop, detain or pull his weapon. Hes not police. Learn to read and check the laws

The wheels were spinning forward before he drew his weapon.

Well said, lady...........🤗

47 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Perhaps your self declared love of seeing violence against a woman is clouding your judgement.

From the person who cheered on the Algerian geezer smashing up women at the Olympic boxing. 😄

47 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I admit my support for bringing murderers to justice, especially when they commit murder in full view of the public and multiple video cameras.

There’s nothing ‘vigilante’ or ‘internet strongman’ about supporting the due process of the local DA and Minnesota AG delivering justice to Renee Good’s killer.

Sadly we can’t rely on the DOJ or FBI doing likewise.

You're getting very close to incitement to violence.

I know you're mad the law is finally being applied to both sides but maybe try to calm down a bit. Your white Liberal woke hero got shot for trying to kill a federal agent with her car. She messed around and found out. Your side wasn't going to get away with it forever. What goes around comes around. Not a moment too soon.

27 minutes ago, blaze master said:

The wheels were spinning forward before he drew his weapon.

Nope look again. He started to pull his weapon as she was turning the steering wheel. Completely unholstered before she moved and he leaned on the hood to shoot her. I guess your trump vision is still turned on.