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I think I may have found at least one part of the answer. Jews are delusional about the scale of their own importance! As, incidentally, are all the big religionists: Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus. Dunno, don't think Jews are any louder about it than those groups.

Sheesh, back to the beginning of this question! Jews are no more delusional than the others yet are far more persecuted...

Just now, Yagoda said:

There werent. Your statement is all thats needed to show your mindset.

Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. You think those ordinary folks who joined the Nazi Party out of peer pressure and conformity and, yes, perhaps benefits, were what led to the 'final solution'.

Nonsense! What led to the camps was apathy, of looking away. Think about how many were guillotined in Berlin for their resistance: Bonhoeffer, the White Rose. And many more resisters who were sent to the camps themselves.

Hannah Arendt states it so well in The Banality of Evil. You should read it. It ain't Mein Kampf.

There were good Germans and even good Nazis, including many who tried to save Jews.

If you're inclined to mention Nazi soldiers, I think you should remember conscription in Israel. The young don't have a choice.

1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said:

You think those ordinary folks who joined the Nazi Party out of peer pressure and conformity and, yes, perhaps benefits, were what led to the 'final solution'.

Yes. They all knew what the program was. Every one is a moral murderer, if not a legal one. Just being a cook in a camp gives you liability under German law. Because the world has let scum skate, doesnt mean they are "innocent".

Your misreading of Hannah Arendt is a stain on her name and work. Read "Ordinary Germans."

4 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Maybe the root cause, over the centuries, is their belief that they are the chosen ones, and other people simply became sick and tired of that attitude.

Some of them explain why they think that way in this youtube video. (pre Gaza war)

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Sure it was. You just dont like it.

A 5 word reply to a complex subject that YOU raised is not a serious reply.

If you expanded your reply I'd take it more seriously.

I can't believe you're saying, of 109M Germans in 1940, there were none with honour or conscience. Nonsense!

I believe I've read Goldhagen's book, though in the misty past. I've downloaded it to read again. Also instructive is Bergerson's Ordinary Germans in Extraordinary Times which concludes that "ordinary Germans did in fact make Germany and Europe more fascist, more racist, and more modern during the 1930s, but they disguised their involvement behind a pre-existing veil of normalcy. Bergerson details a way of being, believing, and behaving by which "ordinary Germans" imagined their powerlessness and absence of responsibility even as they collaborated in the Nazi revolution".

I would never deny this as fact. Ordinary Germans did not revolt or resist. They looked the other way. Another remarkable survey of this is Inside Nazi Germany: Conformity, Opposition and Racism.

But you cannot tell me many did not try to help these victims. Bonhoeffer is completely accurate. Even today, nobody listens.

Generalisation is a curse, Yagoda. You're better than rhetoric. I have in no way smeared Arendt. She would agree that the banality of evil is now happening in Israel. Read more closely.

"It has been estimated that during the course of World War II800,000 Germans were arrested by the Gestapo for resistance activities. It has also been estimated that between 15,000 and 77,000 of the Germans were executed by the Nazis."

Assassinating Hitler would not have helped slow the machinery of extermination. Too many other rabid, fascist dogs.

I won't quote more of it. You can read Wikipedia for yourself. I have actually read many of the references for Nonviolence Studies. I found The History of the German Resistance enlightening.

(I presume most here know they can download all these from Z-library. Please donate!

For the record, I believe the Israeli leadership and the command structure of the IDF to be no better than Nazis. The people who made Gaza the world's largest prison never studied the history of oppression of Jews. If they had they are either golems or have abandoned heart and conscience in their pursuit of power. Only the numberes differ--the intent is the same.

41 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

If you expanded your reply I'd take it more seriously.

Who care? Not me. Im not going to convince you anyway. Nor do I care if I do or not.

14 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Who care? Not me. Im not going to convince you anyway. Nor do I care if I do or not.

I don't have a closed mind on this forum.

If you don't want to explain it in a post, maybe you can supply a link or two and I'll check it out and get back to you.

48 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I can't believe you're saying, of 109M Germans in 1940, there were none with honour or conscience. Nonsense!

Oskar Schindler comes to mind.

48 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

For the record, I believe the Israeli leadership and the command structure of the IDF to be no better than Nazis. The people who made Gaza the world's largest prison never studied the history of oppression of Jews. If they had they are either golems or have abandoned heart and conscience in their pursuit of power. Only the numberes differ--the intent is the same.

It appears the victims have become the perpetrators.

8 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I don't have a closed mind on this forum.

Sure you do.

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Sure you do.

Yeah, I do.

The German propaganda photo of Hessy, as a baby, that another member posted, I had no idea. Never heard of her. I Googled around and found the story interesting.

No need to take things personally. It just goes to credibility.

Comments / statements aren't worth much unless they can be backed up with link/s, otherwise, just say, "in my opinion."

4 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

4 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Some of them explain why they think that way in this youtube video. (pre Gaza war)

4 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

AN IS USING US AS GUINEA PIGS! THIS IS NOT KHUN HEINEKEN BUT UNBLOCKTHEPLANET"S ANSWER TO KUN HEINEKEN!

A wide range of different opinions. The first says non-Jews have rights but, as a Jew, he is more special.A Haredi tells us it's okay to kill non-Jews because God told him. The secular Jews accept that non-Jews are equal. The West Bank Haredi settler does not (surprise, surprise!).

These interviews too place before October 7. It is likely views have hardened since then. Just my opinion.

One observant Jew thinks is is more special, and has a more important mission than a non-Jew; the first question a Haredi asks is, “Are you Jewish?” (as if that would make some crucial difference) and tells us “Jews are the chosen nation” [I ask, chosen for what exactly, what purpose?]. It’s not his opinion, “it’s God’s opinion [obviously he has a hotline A secular Jew tells us there is no difference, just different traditions [very sensible, IMV]; an observant Jew says non-Jews are equal “if they behave like human beings, if not, “the Torah tells you to kill him” [just wow]; a religious Jew tells us that “God tells us to love one another and respect one another”; another religious Jews says that non-Jews “missed out”; he does not think Arabs have the right to vote in Israel, “it’s our country”; a secular Jew sees non-Jews as equals; another secular Jew sees equality but his religious friend mentions  “terror attacks” (in Israel); a West Bank settler with sidelocks thinks God chose the Jews, Jews should have more rights than non-Jews, that Jews should have rights to all the land, that each Jew should get his own plot of land (in Israel). Yagoda sees Nazis under the bed!

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You do not oppose genocide , you oppose Israel

papa opposes Isreal

& genocide

as Israel is perpetrating genocide.

... duh ...

38 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

One observant Jew thinks is is more special, and has a more important mission than a non-Jew; the first question a Haredi asks is, “Are you Jewish?” (as if that would make some crucial difference) and tells us “Jews are the chosen nation” [I ask, chosen for what exactly, what purpose?]. It’s not his opinion, “it’s God’s opinion [obviously he has a hotline A secular Jew tells us there is no difference, just different traditions [very sensible, IMV]; an observant Jew says non-Jews are equal “if they behave like human beings, if not, “the Torah tells you to kill him” [just wow]; a religious Jew tells us that “God tells us to love one another and respect one another”; another religious Jews says that non-Jews “missed out”; he does not think Arabs have the right to vote in Israel, “it’s our country”; a secular Jew sees non-Jews as equals; another secular Jew sees equality but his religious friend mentions  “terror attacks” (in Israel); a West Bank settler with sidelocks thinks God chose the Jews, Jews should have more rights than non-Jews, that Jews should have rights to all the land, that each Jew should get his own plot of land (in Israel). Yagoda sees Nazis under the bed!

I must admit I was taken somewhat back with a couple of the replies. Particularly the "higher mission" or "more important mission" guy.

I guess the words in the tanakh / torah are taught in such a way, from school age, that there is an element of entitlement there. Some may even say it falls into the brainwashing or cult category.

The Christian bible says "thou shalt not kill" but also says "an eye for an eye." I can see how this could be a contradiction in certain circumstances.

The guy with the lady and baby in the background restored my faith in humanity. The world needs more people like him.

On 1/10/2026 at 5:32 PM, JackGats said:

Are they? They're the most talked about persecuted people, not per se the most persecuted.

New english? talked about being persecuted BUT NOT being persecuted? per se? are you trying to invent new way to say something that exist but not really exist?

On 1/10/2026 at 5:23 PM, Yagoda said:

Jews are hated in the West because of mental illness that afflicts anti-semites, who are generally failures or losers and who need someone or something to blame for their own inadequacies.

10 posters didn't agree with your well put theory on why jews are singled out, those 10 posters, and millions others, are the very same that help the anti-semite hatred continue to florish.

An offensive post and the replies have been removed.

On 1/10/2026 at 1:14 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

Sorry to disappoint as your muse. No propaganda here and no AI. Just an honest question, open to all answers. Nothing about the present war on Palestine. Nothing about the Israeli govt. Just the questions: Why are Jews so despised?

I could not care less & engaging with AI made slop with someone/bot trying to distract from what I use this forum for.. ie Thailand .. go use Reddit or something .. blocked

19 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

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I think I may have found at least one part of the answer. Jews are delusional about the scale of their own importance! As, incidentally, are all the big religionists: Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus. Dunno, don't think Jews are any louder about it than those groups.

Sheesh, back to the beginning of this question! Jews are no more delusional than the others yet are far more persecuted...

You know when you can claim you are the original, and the rest is just copycats, that makes you a bit more important ? Right ?

1 hour ago, ezzra said:

10 posters didn't agree with your well put theory on why jews are singled out, those 10 posters, and millions others, are the very same that help the anti-semite hatred continue to florish.

There is always simple answers when you are single minded, cant grasp the diversity or all the small details that leads to the result we see today and the reason why.

When you claim you are the chosen people by god, what can possibly go wrong ? And you try to execute your right as Gods chosen people as quick you get the chance, not only one time, but

14 hours ago, papa al said:

papa opposes Isreal

& genocide

as Israel is perpetrating genocide.

... duh ...

If you oppose genocide, then you would be opposing where genocide happens , rather than opposing Israel .

You didn't seem at all bothered about the genocide in Myanmar or the Rwanda

22 hours ago, Hummin said:

What do you think about the settlers?

Jews reclaiming Judea and pushing back the Muslim invaders

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Jews reclaiming Judea and pushing back the Muslim invaders

Are they right to do so? And what differ from a Jew without Homeland and a Palestinian?

I see no difference

On 1/10/2026 at 9:32 PM, KhunHeineken said:

"Encouraged" looks a lot like forced to me.

He mentions "encourage voluntary emigration." Funny that.

There's a warrant out for his arrest as well. Tell me, is The Hague a bunch of antisemites as well, or do you think they have credible evidence?

The U.N are a group made of Many Arab and Muslims Countries and Western Countries with high Muslim population .

Whereas they aren't Anti Semites, they re definitely Anti Israel

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The U.N are a group made of Many Arab and Muslims Countries and Western Countries with high Muslim population .

Whereas they aren't Anti Semites, they re definitely Anti Israel

Out of humanitarian reasons we have Muslim immigrants, because of failed colonization based on greed.

Nothing else

Most humans have a brain and hearth with empathy and logic sense connected to our consensus.

That's why we constantly experience trouble when we realize the hypocrisy, and everything backfires

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Are they right to do so? And what differ from a Jew without Homeland and a Palestinian?

I see no difference

Palestinians can move to any other of the numerous different Muslim Countries , Israelis cannot move to any other Jewish country

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians can move to any other of the numerous different Muslim Countries , Israelis cannot move to any other Jewish country

BS, same as Jews and Judaism, there differences, same as every Judaism Christianity have Catholic, protestants, Mormons

No other debattant gives a better understanding why Jews is the most persecuted people than you. Exactly how you debate is the nature of the persecution, and I have met similar people on my way around the world, and they do not get it themselves. One sided single mentality thinking and rhetoric

Put through my earlier answer to chatgpt, and start to love that tool

My text

12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Out of humanitarian reasons we have Muslim immigrants, because of failed colonization based on greed.

Nothing else

Most humans have a brain and hearth with empathy and logic sense connected to our consensus.

That's why we constantly experience trouble when we realize the hypocrisy, and everything backfires

Here is a more philosophical–political refinement, stripped of rhetoric and focused on structure, causality, and moral tension:

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What is presented as humanitarian necessity is inseparable from historical responsibility. Migration is not an isolated moral event; it is the delayed consequence of political and economic systems built on extraction, domination, and asymmetry. Colonization driven by greed did not merely exploit land—it destabilized social orders, redirected development, and fractured sovereignty. Migration follows power, because power once moved first.

Modern states attempt to resolve this legacy through moral language rather than structural accountability. Humanitarianism becomes a substitute for justice: an ethical response that treats symptoms while refusing to fully confront causes. This creates a paradox—welcoming the displaced without dismantling the mechanisms that produced displacement.

Humans sense this contradiction because empathy and reason are not separate faculties; they converge in moral judgment. Empathy recognizes suffering, while reason detects inconsistency. When policies appeal to compassion but avoid responsibility, moral dissonance emerges. Societies feel compelled to act, yet uneasy about why they must act.

The resulting tension is political instability disguised as moral progress. Host societies are asked to absorb consequences without collective honesty; migrants are framed simultaneously as victims and burdens. Both positions are dehumanizing in different ways. What backfires is not empathy itself, but empathy detached from truth.

Thus, the crisis is not migration, nor culture, nor religion—it is the refusal to align moral narratives with historical and political reality. When ethics are used to mask power rather than restrain it, consensus erodes. Hypocrisy is not merely noticed; it becomes socially corrosive.

A humane political order cannot be built on selective memory. Without accountability, humanitarianism risks becoming a moral performance—comforting to the conscience, destabilizing to society, and ultimately unjust to everyone involved.

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4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

BS, same as Jews and Judaism, there differences, same as every Judaism Christianity have Catholic, protestants, Mormons

What are you trying to say ?

Think what you want to say and write it in a manner that can be understood by the other person .

Are you meaning to say that Judaism has different sects ?

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What are you trying to say ?

Think what you want to say and write it in a manner that can be understood by the other person .

Are you meaning to say that Judaism has different sects ?

Christianity is a seed from Judaism, same as Islam, same as protestant

Not that difficult is it?

And how many true Jews is it if you talking about ethnicity? Who basically is a Persian mix tribe with heritage far fom the promised land?