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Is there a possibility Thailand could elect a progressive this time?

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And if they do will the elite, the dinosaurs, and the powers that be respect the public wishes, or will they deny it once again? Never forget Pita.

Natthaphong Ruengpanyawut and People Power would appear to be the only chance that this nation has at this point in time to move forward with a progressive agenda, to fix a stalled economy, and more than a decade of damaging and regressive policy. There is no other alternative as everyone else represents backward movement, corruption, and dinosaur worship.

People’s party, fuelled by support among young and urban voters, is leading opinion polls ahead of the election on Sunday. However, it is not expected to win an outright majority, and it may face an uphill struggle to form a coalition with rivals, which have previously blocked its bids for power. It also faces looming legal battles.

People’s party will be up against incumbent prime minister Anutin Charnvirakul, leader of Bhumjaithai, a shrewd dealmaker who has the support of royalist military conservatives, as well as Pheu Thai, the party associated with now jailed former leader Thaksin Shinawatra. Although Pheu Thai is expected to see a decline in support, the party remains a powerful political force.

Many of the voters attending the People’s party’s rally say they want structural change to Thailand’s political system. “I’ve lived through so many elections in my life, I don’t want to see the same system again. I want equality for the people, and for young people to be able to express their opinions freely,” said supporter Rattanakorn Boonchi, 46.

The movement behind the People’s party emerged only eight years ago, but has quickly captured public support by promising reforms to make the country more democratic and break up monopolies that dominate the Thai economy.

In the last election, in 2023, the People’s party predecessor, then called Move Forward, shocked its rivals in the military royalist establishment by winning the most votes and seats.

Power to Thailand's youth!!

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It's absolutely possible. Unfortunately, that the old guard/invisible hands will let this person form a government is impossible.

They already have the lese majeste and constitutional legal cases lined up to disqualify and jail any successful people in the 'wrong' party.

Then they'll be a coalition with Anutin as the next PM.

Although I think Anutin and his party will actually do quite well in the election anyway, so he may not need too much help from the Constitutional Court.

The best result for stability is probably a win for Anutin anyway. And while I like the idea of the People's Party, they do look like naive students with some odd policies.

Only for a few minutes. One thing we know about "progressives" is as soon as elected their snouts hit the trough with gleeful eagerness, and suddenly they are establishment on steroids.

Thai politics is a hopeless mess. Which is great for expats looking for a cheap and easy life.

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1 minute ago, Kinnock said:

They already have the lese majeste and constitutional legal cases lined up to disqualify and jail any successful people in the 'wrong' party.

Then they'll be a coalition with Anutin as the next PM.

Although I think Anutin and his party will actually do quite well in the election anyway, so he may not need too much help from the Constitutional Court.

The best result for stability is probably a win for Anutin anyway. And while I like the idea of the People's Party, they do look like naive students with some odd policies.

Not 'odd policies', look again they are promising changes that would make Thailand world class in many ways and move forward away from military domination and into a constitution which strongly recognizes human rights, outlaws discrimination and lots more.

Don't be concerned Future forward wants to break the law, that's not their aim and they well recognize that good laws must be respected.

Just now, scorecard said:

Not 'odd policies', look again they are promising changes that would make Thailand world class in many ways and move forward away from military domination and into a constitution which strongly recognizes human rights, outlaws discrimination and lots more.

Don't be concerned that Future forward wants to break the law, that's not their aim and they well recognize that good laws must be respected.

If the Progressive promises to give all Thai adults 20,000 THB from the Thai treasury if they are elected, then the progressives will get elected.

50 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

They already have the lese majeste and constitutional legal cases lined up to disqualify and jail any successful people in the 'wrong' party.

Then they'll be a coalition with Anutin as the next PM.

That's how it's done in the LOS ppls. BTW, I sorta like Khun "Ai Farang." Or at least his stance of legalization of cannabis.

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

Not 'odd policies', look again they are promising changes that would make Thailand world class in many ways and move forward away from military domination and into a constitution which strongly recognizes human rights, outlaws discrimination and lots more.

Don't be concerned Future forward wants to break the law, that's not their aim and they well recognize that good laws must be respected.

Pipe dreams and pronouns ...... and their reform agenda will ensure they will not form a government.

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1 hour ago, Kinnock said:

They already have the lese majeste and constitutional legal cases lined up to disqualify and jail any successful people in the 'wrong' party.

Then they'll be a coalition with Anutin as the next PM.

Although I think Anutin and his party will actually do quite well in the election anyway, so he may not need too much help from the Constitutional Court.

The best result for stability is probably a win for Anutin anyway. And while I like the idea of the People's Party, they do look like naive students with some odd policies.

It must be never forgotten that Anutin was the Deputy PM during the Prayuth Decimation, which at least partially led to the state of the Thai economy today.

He's a dinosaur, he's a relic, he is an overly wealthy self entitled numskull, he is part of the establishment and is pro Army, he cares not one iota for the Thai people, and he's the last thing in the world this nation needs right now.

One of the real questions is how is Thailand going to get rid of these incredibly corrupt, super toxic senators that were appointed by the toxic Army, and have the capability of denying the public's will and denying the results of a free and fair election?

If they can do that is it reasonable to refer to Thailand as a democracy? And if People's Party wins again, and these clowns attempt to steal the election again, will the people tolerate it? I certainly hope not.

Yawn

It's going to go as it always has unless the people have just capitulated and now back to voting for status quo BS.

Why you always blather on so bored man??

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1 minute ago, Nurf said:

Yawn

It's going to go as it always has unless the people have just capitulated and now back to voting for status quo BS.

Why you always blather on so bored man??

Well you're certainly not going to get an apology out of me for being relatively articulate, not boring with my posts, and being a student of history, if that's what you want.

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Well you're certainly not going to get an apology out of me for being relatively articulate, not boring with my posts, and being a student of history, if that's what you want.

I don't want

I want you to stop gobbing up the forum with your nonsense. It's absolutely constant like a bad case of giardiasis

Why even speculate? Election results in 24 hours.

You don't even live in Thailand

They're still worried about the homosexual thing and get this - pet healthcare.

All hope is lost ye that enter here...

Sadly, only an armed uprising that includes the junior elements of the Army will ever make the dramatic change this country needs if it's to have a future worth living.

At age 76 and aiming for 90+ I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime.

And, in any case, as the Castro/Guevara example shows (along with so many others worldwide) armed uprisings usually end up just as badly as the dictatorship they overthrew. 😪

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48 minutes ago, Nurf said:

I don't want

I want you to stop gobbing up the forum with your nonsense. It's absolutely constant like a bad case of giardiasis

Why even speculate? Election results in 24 hours.

You don't even live in Thailand

That's rather amusing you're about the 10th person that's accused me of not living in Thailand, despite that the fact that I've been here for two decades.

Nothing better to do today?

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I will make a most optimistic prediction. There will never be another military coup here. Think about it. The moral authority that backed the coups in the past, is long gone. And the army does not have the guts to wage war against their people, Burmese style. 

It won't happen. The Thai army does not have the guts for it, and the Thai soldiers, and the families of the soldiers would never tolerate their sons murdering innocent Thais. The moms would say "you murder one Thai, and you are never welcome in our family home again. Listen to me. Do not do this". And you would have massive army defections. Who will fight at that point? Not the cowardly generals? They would flee into exile with their billions, and the army might collapse, or give up, at that point.

One of the fundamental differences, is the Thai soldiers are not facing the level of desperation the young Burmese are. The poverty here is not as grinding as it is in Burma. I do not think it could be sustained, if the fools started it. Thailand is a very different culture than Burma, on a dozen significant levels. And the youth now, are very different people than they were during past coups, which were violent. and were supported with a sort of moral authority, which is gone now.

The army is in a difficult position now. If voted out, they would have to accept it. The generals would have to be content with their fortunes. 

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I will make a most optimistic prediction. There will never be another military coup here. Think about it. The moral authority that backed the coups in the past, is long gone. And the army does not have the guts to wage war against their people, Burmese style. 

It won't happen. The Thai army does not have the guts for it, and the Thai soldiers, and the families of the soldiers would never tolerate their sons murdering innocent Thais. The moms would say "you murder one Thai, and you are never welcome in our family home again. Listen to me. Do not do this". And you would have massive army defections. Who will fight at that point? Not the cowardly generals? They would flee into exile with their billions, and the army might collapse, or give up, at that point.

One of the fundamental differences, is the Thai soldiers are not facing the level of desperation the young Burmese are. The poverty here is not as grinding as it is in Burma. I do not think it could be sustained, if the fools started it. Thailand is a very different culture than Burma, on a dozen significant levels. And the youth now, are very different people than they were during past coups, which were violent. and were supported with a sort of moral authority, which is gone now.

The army is in a difficult position now. If voted out, they would have to accept it. The generals would have to be content with their fortunes. 

Haha - Post of the day

The power sharing between Military, Business, Chinese elites, Thai politicians and RTP is iron bound.

I do not comment on Thai politics

2 hours ago, connda said:

If the Progressive promises to give all Thai adults 20,000 THB from the Thai treasury if they are elected, then the progressives will get elected.

in other words....progressive buying the votes, isn't that illegal

my take.... tomorrow will be like yesterday and the day before yesterday

3 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

progressive buying the votes, isn't that illegal

Only for the Progressives.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It must be never forgotten that Anutin was the Deputy PM during the Prayuth Decimation, which at least partially led to the state of the Thai economy today.

He's a dinosaur, he's a relic, he is an overly wealthy self entitled numskull, he is part of the establishment and is pro Army, he cares not one iota for the Thai people, and he's the last thing in the world this nation needs right now.

One of the real questions is how is Thailand going to get rid of these incredibly corrupt, super toxic senators that were appointed by the toxic Army, and have the capability of denying the public's will and denying the results of a free and fair election?

If they can do that is it reasonable to refer to Thailand as a democracy? And if People's Party wins again, and these clowns attempt to steal the election again, will the people tolerate it? I certainly hope not.

Step 1: is to change the constitution which states that most of the senate seats be occupied by military / retired military.

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