1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Fasting gives your organs a rest. Constant food is bad.

As long you believe in that, fine,

Just now, Hummin said:

As long you believe in that, fine,

Thats what the science says.

Fasting allows your body to shift from using glucose to burning fat for fuel, which can promote metabolic health and support cellular repair. During fasting periods, your body initiates processes like autophagy—a natural "housekeeping" mechanism that removes damaged cells and recycles cellular components—potentially reducing inflammation and supporting long-term health. This rest phase may also improve insulin sensitivity, lower blood pressure, and enhance brain function by boosting levels of brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF), which supports neuron health and cognitive performance

I've seen several peer-reviewed papers on the benefits of fasting, and the evidence looks convincing to me. However, fasting with a Thai wife in the house is impossible. I managed 24 hours recently when she was away 😊

3 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

I've seen several peer-reviewed papers on the benefits of fasting, and the evidence looks convincing to me. However, fasting with a Thai wife in the house is impossible. I managed 24 hours recently when she was away 😊

I was skeptical but I feel better skipping meals. Makes sense to give the body a rest from constant food.

11 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Thats what the science says.

Fasting allows your body to shift from using glucose to burning fat for fuel, which can promote metabolic health and support cellular repair. During fasting periods, your body initiates processes like autophagy—a natural "housekeeping" mechanism that removes damaged cells and recycles cellular components—potentially reducing inflammation and supporting long-term health. This rest phase may also improve insulin sensitivity, lower blood pressure, and enhance brain function by boosting levels of brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF), which supports neuron health and cognitive performance

Science do not know the excact benefits of fasting long term yet, and most is guessing the connections where they see the results and indications, which often hard to replicating depending on demographic, sex, age etc. Fasting is not just a fast forward health benefit tool for everybody.

AI says based on my statements, but you havent answered yet whey you want to fast?

Scientific understanding of the long-term, direct benefits of human fasting is currently evolving, with research acknowledging significant limitations in translating animal studies to humans, as well as high variability across different demographics, ages, and sexes

. While short-term, medically supervised fasting shows promise for metabolic improvements, the long-term, sustained benefits remain under investigation. 

ScienceDirect.com +3

Here is a breakdown of the current scientific consensus, limitations, and areas where evidence is still developing:

1. Where Science See Results (Short-to-Medium Term)

• Metabolic Switch & Weight Loss: Prolonged fasting (often defined as >48-72 hours) or regular intermittent fasting (IF) triggers a shift from glucose to ketone metabolism (ketosis), which consistently reduces body weight, lowers blood pressure, and improves insulin resistance in the short term.

• Cellular Repair (Autophagy): Studies show that fasting induces autophagy—a process where cells clean out damaged components—which is linked to cellular longevity in animal models.

• Disease Prevention Indicators: Evidence suggests reduced chronic inflammation, improved lipid profiles, and potential neuroprotective effects (e.g., lower Alzheimer's risk). 

  Johns Hopkins Medicine +5

2. Limitations in Long-Term Data

• Lack of Long-Term Trials: Most human studies on fasting are of short duration (weeks to months), making it difficult to determine the long-term, multi-year effects on health and longevity.

• Individual Variability: The effectiveness of fasting varies significantly depending on age, sex, and baseline health. For example, studies have shown that 3–4 months after a fast, many metabolic benefits can disappear, suggesting that intermittent fasting must be a lifelong lifestyle change rather than a quick fix to be effective.

• Replication Challenges: Replicating the results of small, controlled studies in larger, diverse populations is difficult, and some studies suggest that the beneficial metabolic effects may be due to caloric restriction (eating less overall) rather than the fasting duration itself. 

  ScienceDirect.com +4

3. Challenges in Replicating Results (Demographics/Sex/Age)

• Sex Differences: Research indicates that women may respond differently to fasting, with some studies highlighting that men might experience faster improvements in certain markers, while women may experience more pronounced impacts on hormones and metabolism.

• Age Considerations: While some studies in older adults suggest benefits for cognitive health, prolonged fasting is generally not recommended for older adults or adolescents without strict medical supervision, as it may increase the risk of frailty or muscle loss.

• Adherence and Safety: Long-term adherence is low. Studies have found that while fasting can improve blood pressure and lipid profiles, it can also lead to nutrient deficiencies and, in some cases, increase cholesterol. 

  Healthline +4

4. Potential Risks and Unknowns

• Muscle Loss: While some studies show that short-term fasting preserves muscle, others suggest that prolonged, unsupervised, or repeated long-term fasting can lead to significant loss of lean muscle mass.

• Increased Inflammation: A study of 10-day water-only fasting unexpectedly found that, while body fat was reduced, it actually increased inflammatory markers (like hsCRP) and triggered temporary cardiac stress, raising questions about the safety of prolonged, repeated fasting. 

  ScienceDirect.com +3

Summary: While fasting holds promise as a therapeutic tool for metabolic health, it is not a "magic bullet" with well-defined, long-term outcomes. The current scientific consensus is that it is a powerful intervention that requires further, high-quality, long-term studies to understand its true impact across different populations. 

National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov) +1

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Science do not know the excact benefits of fasting long term yet, and most is guessing the connections where they see the results and indications, which often hard to replicating depending on demographic, sex, age etc. Fasting is not just a fast forward health benefit tool for everybody.

AI says based on my statements, but you havent answered yet whey you want to fast?

Scientific understanding of the long-term, direct benefits of human fasting is currently evolving, with research acknowledging significant limitations in translating animal studies to humans, as well as high variability across different demographics, ages, and sexes

. While short-term, medically supervised fasting shows promise for metabolic improvements, the long-term, sustained benefits remain under investigation. 

ScienceDirect.com +3

Here is a breakdown of the current scientific consensus, limitations, and areas where evidence is still developing:

1. Where Science See Results (Short-to-Medium Term)

• Metabolic Switch & Weight Loss: Prolonged fasting (often defined as >48-72 hours) or regular intermittent fasting (IF) triggers a shift from glucose to ketone metabolism (ketosis), which consistently reduces body weight, lowers blood pressure, and improves insulin resistance in the short term.

• Cellular Repair (Autophagy): Studies show that fasting induces autophagy—a process where cells clean out damaged components—which is linked to cellular longevity in animal models.

• Disease Prevention Indicators: Evidence suggests reduced chronic inflammation, improved lipid profiles, and potential neuroprotective effects (e.g., lower Alzheimer's risk). 

  Johns Hopkins Medicine +5

2. Limitations in Long-Term Data

• Lack of Long-Term Trials: Most human studies on fasting are of short duration (weeks to months), making it difficult to determine the long-term, multi-year effects on health and longevity.

• Individual Variability: The effectiveness of fasting varies significantly depending on age, sex, and baseline health. For example, studies have shown that 3–4 months after a fast, many metabolic benefits can disappear, suggesting that intermittent fasting must be a lifelong lifestyle change rather than a quick fix to be effective.

• Replication Challenges: Replicating the results of small, controlled studies in larger, diverse populations is difficult, and some studies suggest that the beneficial metabolic effects may be due to caloric restriction (eating less overall) rather than the fasting duration itself. 

  ScienceDirect.com +4

3. Challenges in Replicating Results (Demographics/Sex/Age)

• Sex Differences: Research indicates that women may respond differently to fasting, with some studies highlighting that men might experience faster improvements in certain markers, while women may experience more pronounced impacts on hormones and metabolism.

• Age Considerations: While some studies in older adults suggest benefits for cognitive health, prolonged fasting is generally not recommended for older adults or adolescents without strict medical supervision, as it may increase the risk of frailty or muscle loss.

• Adherence and Safety: Long-term adherence is low. Studies have found that while fasting can improve blood pressure and lipid profiles, it can also lead to nutrient deficiencies and, in some cases, increase cholesterol. 

  Healthline +4

4. Potential Risks and Unknowns

• Muscle Loss: While some studies show that short-term fasting preserves muscle, others suggest that prolonged, unsupervised, or repeated long-term fasting can lead to significant loss of lean muscle mass.

• Increased Inflammation: A study of 10-day water-only fasting unexpectedly found that, while body fat was reduced, it actually increased inflammatory markers (like hsCRP) and triggered temporary cardiac stress, raising questions about the safety of prolonged, repeated fasting. 

  ScienceDirect.com +3

Summary: While fasting holds promise as a therapeutic tool for metabolic health, it is not a "magic bullet" with well-defined, long-term outcomes. The current scientific consensus is that it is a powerful intervention that requires further, high-quality, long-term studies to understand its true impact across different populations. 

National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov) +1

Its not magic. It has benefits.

Nothing is magic.

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Its not magic. It has benefits.

Nothing is magic.

Again, for older people, fasting is maybe not the solution. Again, why ?

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Again, for older people, fasting is maybe not the solution. Again, why ?

Why not? They can fast for 18 hours.

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Why not? They can fast for 18 hours.

Thats intermittent fasting, and ? Yeah, why not, still you need your daily intake of calories to maintain your health. So what would you like to do for long term out of these two options? There is food that cleanse you body, cell repair etc

A balanced diet and fasting (or cleansing) are two different approaches to health and weight management, with

a balanced diet focusing onlong-term nutritionand fasting focusing oneating timing and calorie restriction. Research indicates that intermittent fasting is generally not more effective for weight loss than a conventional, consistent, balanced diet. 

Deutsches Krebsforschungszentrum +3

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Thats intermittent fasting, and ? Yeah, why not, still you need your daily intake of calories to maintain your health. So what would you like to do for long term out of these two options? There is food that cleanse you body, cell repair etc

A balanced diet and fasting (or cleansing) are two different approaches to health and weight management, with

a balanced diet focusing onlong-term nutritionand fasting focusing oneating timing and calorie restriction. Research indicates that intermittent fasting is generally not more effective for weight loss than a conventional, consistent, balanced diet. 

Deutsches Krebsforschungszentrum +3

Not for weight loss. For your immune system.

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Not for weight loss. For your immune system.

Then I prefer to eat a perfectly healthy balanced diet instead of fasting. Fasting can inspire people to be more consistent and disciplined, I agree, but again for overall health? I do not believe in it.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Then I prefer to eat a perfectly healthy balanced diet instead of fasting. Fasting can inspire people to be more consistent and disciplined, I agree, but again for overall health? I do not believe in it.

You need to try it to judge benefits. How can you judge a weight lifting system if you never tried it?

9 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

You need to try it to judge benefits. How can you judge a weight lifting system if you never tried it?

Because I get measurable results ?

Again, most of the things we try in life have or can have an positive short term effect. And you agree you can do harm to your body long term if you using a to wrong program, do not rest properly, and give your body time to restitute, and the side effects comes later?

Just now, Hummin said:

Because I get measurable results ?

Again, most of the things we try in life have or can have an positive short term effect. And you agree you can do harm to your body long term if you using a to wrong program, do not rest properly, and give your body time to restitute, and the side effects comes later?

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Because I get measurable results ?

Again, most of the things we try in life have or can have an positive short term effect. And you agree you can do harm to your body long term if you using a to wrong program, do not rest properly, and give your body time to restitute, and the side effects comes later?

Try and see. Listen to your body.

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

Try and see. Listen to your body.

I have done intermittent fasting. Not for me

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

I have done intermittent fasting. Not for me

Fair enough then. It's not for everyone.

14 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Fair enough then. It's not for everyone.

Protein shake with fruits and Camille tea with honey before bedtime makes me sleep like a baby.

Just now, Hummin said:

Protein shake with fruits and Camille tea with honey makes me sleep like a baby.

I stopped protein shakes. I only take vitamins.

10 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

I stopped protein shakes. I only take vitamins.

How many grams protein pr kg weight you manage to eat pr day? I calculate 1,6g or kg lean body weight. 165g pr day

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

How many grams protein pr kg weight you manage to eat pr day? I calculate 1,6g or kg lean body weight. 165g pr day

Never measure it. Just eat meat when exercise.

15 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Never measure it. Just eat meat when exercise.

I believe the science is stronger when it comes to a balanced diet, and effect of protein and creatine for optimal performance and health.

19 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I believe the science is stronger when it comes to balanced diet, and effect of protein a creatine for optimal performance and health.

I dont know what a balanced diet is. Creatine is good.

7 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

I dont know what a balanced diet is. Creatine is good.

Clean healthy nutrients with protein, carbs, fiber and fats 3 - 6 meals a day.

Red meat, white Meat, fish, vegetables, fruits seeds, nuts,,,, fiery like Greek Yoghurt, cheese plenty of clean water

Fasting is great for me. IF is normal for me now. Can’t remember the last time I ate breakfast.

Hilarious to see the clot shot pushers say that fasting might not be safe and that science doesn’t know enough about it.

Don’t skip that meal! It could be dangerous. But here….shoot yourself up with this mystery muck that was tested on a handful of mice.

I eat in a 4-6 hr window every day. Usually from 1600-2000.
Sometimes I'll have some protein, eggs, chicken if I need something

I feel much better eating like that and you'll actually eat less. Its hard to eat 2-3K calories a day

13 hours ago, Hummin said:

Science do not know the excact benefits of fasting long term yet, and most is guessing the connections where they see the results and indications, which often hard to replicating depending on demographic, sex, age etc. Fasting is not just a fast forward health benefit tool for everybody.

AI says based on my statements, but you havent answered yet whey you want to fast?

Scientific understanding of the long-term, direct benefits of human fasting is currently evolving, with research acknowledging significant limitations in translating animal studies to humans, as well as high variability across different demographics, ages, and sexes

. While short-term, medically supervised fasting shows promise for metabolic improvements, the long-term, sustained benefits remain under investigation. 

ScienceDirect.com +3

Here is a breakdown of the current scientific consensus, limitations, and areas where evidence is still developing:

1. Where Science See Results (Short-to-Medium Term)

• Metabolic Switch & Weight Loss: Prolonged fasting (often defined as >48-72 hours) or regular intermittent fasting (IF) triggers a shift from glucose to ketone metabolism (ketosis), which consistently reduces body weight, lowers blood pressure, and improves insulin resistance in the short term.

• Cellular Repair (Autophagy): Studies show that fasting induces autophagy—a process where cells clean out damaged components—which is linked to cellular longevity in animal models.

• Disease Prevention Indicators: Evidence suggests reduced chronic inflammation, improved lipid profiles, and potential neuroprotective effects (e.g., lower Alzheimer's risk). 

  Johns Hopkins Medicine +5

2. Limitations in Long-Term Data

• Lack of Long-Term Trials: Most human studies on fasting are of short duration (weeks to months), making it difficult to determine the long-term, multi-year effects on health and longevity.

• Individual Variability: The effectiveness of fasting varies significantly depending on age, sex, and baseline health. For example, studies have shown that 3–4 months after a fast, many metabolic benefits can disappear, suggesting that intermittent fasting must be a lifelong lifestyle change rather than a quick fix to be effective.

• Replication Challenges: Replicating the results of small, controlled studies in larger, diverse populations is difficult, and some studies suggest that the beneficial metabolic effects may be due to caloric restriction (eating less overall) rather than the fasting duration itself. 

  ScienceDirect.com +4

3. Challenges in Replicating Results (Demographics/Sex/Age)

• Sex Differences: Research indicates that women may respond differently to fasting, with some studies highlighting that men might experience faster improvements in certain markers, while women may experience more pronounced impacts on hormones and metabolism.

• Age Considerations: While some studies in older adults suggest benefits for cognitive health, prolonged fasting is generally not recommended for older adults or adolescents without strict medical supervision, as it may increase the risk of frailty or muscle loss.

• Adherence and Safety: Long-term adherence is low. Studies have found that while fasting can improve blood pressure and lipid profiles, it can also lead to nutrient deficiencies and, in some cases, increase cholesterol. 

  Healthline +4

4. Potential Risks and Unknowns

• Muscle Loss: While some studies show that short-term fasting preserves muscle, others suggest that prolonged, unsupervised, or repeated long-term fasting can lead to significant loss of lean muscle mass.

• Increased Inflammation: A study of 10-day water-only fasting unexpectedly found that, while body fat was reduced, it actually increased inflammatory markers (like hsCRP) and triggered temporary cardiac stress, raising questions about the safety of prolonged, repeated fasting. 

  ScienceDirect.com +3

Summary: While fasting holds promise as a therapeutic tool for metabolic health, it is not a "magic bullet" with well-defined, long-term outcomes. The current scientific consensus is that it is a powerful intervention that requires further, high-quality, long-term studies to understand its true impact across different populations. 

National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov) +1

Aren't you pro vaccine ? Last I checked theres ZERO studies supporting the last round of them. In fact, post shot, theres several studies showing the dangers of them.

10 minutes ago, Slowhand225 said:

I eat in a 4-6 hr window every day. Usually from 1600-2000.
Sometimes I'll have some protein, eggs, chicken if I need something

I feel much better eating like that and you'll actually eat less. Its hard to eat 2-3K calories a day

You don't get hungry in the morning, unless you wake up afternoon??

9 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

I dont know what a balanced diet is. Creatine is good.

It makes me angry !!;

On 2/17/2026 at 7:15 PM, Pasak110 said:

. 32inch. Im 5 10 and 172 pounds.

What's this in new money?

Ummm.....means ive kept the same body weight and waist for about 30 years.

I think that means I have 3 bitcoin.

14 minutes ago, Slowhand225 said:

Aren't you pro vaccine ? Last I checked theres ZERO studies supporting the last round of them. In fact, post shot, theres several studies showing the dangers of them.

Yes dangerous i think. Too many drugs.