Finally I understand what he always meant about his slogan...

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

I still think he is a "peace president", Iran notwithstanding.

To be continued ...

You are joking right?

There has never been a US president as violent as Trump.

12 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

You are joking right?

There has never been a US president as violent as Trump.

Maduro and Iran = neutralizing global threats to peace

Global Peace Board idea is not dead ...

Trump is pushing NATO members to raise defense spending to 5% of GDP.

Trump is on good terms with Israel AND he has a comprehensive plan for the region that should improve the lives of Palestinians outlined in this 181 page PDF (which no one will ever read).

Helped Israel neutralize Iran, maybe now Israel owes him a favor to go along with this plan.

Need to wait to see how things unfold ....

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Peace-to-Prosperity-0120.pdf

15 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Maduro and Iran = neutralizing global threats to peace

Global Peace Board idea is not dead ...

Trump is pushing NATO members to raise defense spending to 5% of GDP.

Trump is on good terms with Israel AND he has a comprehensive plan for the region that should improve the lives of Palestinians outlined in this 181 page PDF (which no one will ever read).

Helped Israel neutralize Iran, maybe now Israel owes him a favor to go along with this plan.

Need to wait to see how things unfold ....

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Peace-to-Prosperity-0120.pdf

There was a certain German in the 1930s who wanted to bring peace to the world, but first he had to have a little violence, sound familiar?

20 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Maduro and Iran = neutralizing global threats to peace

Global Peace Board idea is not dead ...

Trump is pushing NATO members to raise defense spending to 5% of GDP.

Trump is on good terms with Israel AND he has a comprehensive plan for the region that should improve the lives of Palestinians outlined in this 181 page PDF (which no one will ever read).

Helped Israel neutralize Iran, maybe now Israel owes him a favor to go along with this plan.

Need to wait to see how things unfold ....

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Peace-to-Prosperity-0120.pdf

I find it amazing how far Trump supporters will go to justify his actions. The most violent president in United States history, and yet somehow you claim its peace.

What the hell have you been smoking?

3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I find it amazing how far Trump supporters will go to justify his actions. The most violent president in United States history, and yet somehow you claim its peace.

What the hell have you been smoking?

No one else has pledged to donate 10 billion to rebuild Gaza.

No one else has set up a "Board of Peace". The timing almost seems like a bad joke, but they had their first meeting 2 weeks ago.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

No one else has pledged to donate 10 billion to rebuild Gaza.

No one else has set up a "Board of Peace". The timing almost seems like a bad joke, but they had their first meeting 2 weeks ago.

Donald has not pledged any of his own money.

His previous attempts at charities resulted in fraud.

The BoP is total nonsense with invites to the likes of Putin and Netayahu. Plans for Gaza include 5* hotels, total nonsense.

37 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

That has nothing to do with his war against Iran.

Iran funding Hamas = threat to stability in the region, including Gaza

and other reasons Iran is a threat.

36 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

There was a certain German in the 1930s who wanted to bring peace to the world, but first he had to have a little violence, sound familiar?

Nothing did more to unite the British more during WWII than the Blitz. The bombing of Dresden and Hamburg achieved zero in terms of population morale. Why does the US think Iran is different?

It takes boots on the ground to achieve regime change. In fact, the only time in history bombing led to surrender was when America nuked Japan.

If some of the reports I have read are correct, Israel has imposed a news blackout on Tel Aviv being pulverized by Iranian action.

Serious charges for anyone sending photos or videos of damage outside the country.

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I still think he is a "peace president", Iran notwithstanding.

To be continued ...

You meant to say Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria, Somalia, Yemen, Syria and Iraq. Correct?

7 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

You meant to say Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria, Somalia, Yemen, Syria and Iraq. Correct?

You missed Ecuador

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

You meant to say Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria, Somalia, Yemen, Syria and Iraq. Correct?

As far as I recall, you're also anti-ICE, right?

So should we remove all police too?

They were attacking SHIPPING -- ie disturbing trade , militant groups backed by Iran.

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

As far as I recall, you're also anti-ICE, right?

So should we remove all police too?

They were attacking SHIPPING -- ie disturbing trade , militant groups backed by Iran.

I am not anti-ICE, and I am not anti-police, but I am anti-abuse and I was anti-Noem.

I don't believe that domestic terrorism is appropriate for the mainland United States, especially when it's coming from a government agency.

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

If some of the reports I have read are correct, Israel has imposed a news blackout on Tel Aviv being pulverized by Iranian action.

Serious charges for anyone sending photos or videos of damage outside the country.

Other way around

Iran’s nationwide internet outage stretches into day 8 of war

As Israel and the US continue to pound Iran with air strikes across the country, internet watchdog NetBlocks says Iranians have not been able to use the global internet for the past 168 hours, or more than seven days.

This comes as authorities have imposed a nationwide internet blackout, trying to limit information avenues to state-run news and messaging services.

5 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Where is the evidence for your silly claim?

Lets use AI or google as it is your MO and forte.

• Use of Force: Reports indicate that in 2025, the U.S. attacked seven different countries, and his air strikes in Somalia surpassed the numbers of the George W. Bush, Obama, and Biden administrations combined.

6 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Where is the evidence for your silly claim?

All credit to the original poster

!

'‘Peace President’ Breaks Record for Attacking the Most Countries'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/peace-president-breaks-record-attacking-141532969.html

"Wannabe Nobel Laureate Donald Trump has now ordered more attacks against a greater number of countries than any other president in modern U.S. history."

2 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Other way around

Iran’s nationwide internet outage stretches into day 8 of war

As Israel and the US continue to pound Iran with air strikes across the country, internet watchdog NetBlocks says Iranians have not been able to use the global internet for the past 168 hours, or more than seven days.

This comes as authorities have imposed a nationwide internet blackout, trying to limit information avenues to state-run news and messaging services.

I think you mean “ALSO” the other way around

2 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Other way around

What is the other way around?

It seems like both countries are doing slightly different things.

Iran has a total Internet blackout whilst the reports (stated above) indicate that Israel MAY be enforcing a a local TV news blackout!

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

If some of the reports I have read are correct, Israel has imposed a news blackout on Tel Aviv being pulverized by Iranian action.

Serious charges for anyone sending photos or videos of damage outside the country.

Could you post those reports up ?

Nothing comes up on a websearch .

Websearch "Israel MAY be enforcing a a local TV news blackout!"

https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+MAY+be+enforcing+a+a+local+TV+news+blackout!&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

6 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I accept their complex reasons for each of these strikes, however, the fact remains, in this regard, he is the most violent president of any in recent history, and claiming he’s the president of peace would be laughable if it wasn’t so completely ridiculous

Those strikes were in the name of peace - or do you not think strikes on ISIS and Boko Haram are justified ?

The lines between 'peace' and 'violence' are not being blurred here - the lines between rhetoric and intellectual dishonesty are.

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

If some of the reports I have read are correct, Israel has imposed a news blackout on Tel Aviv being pulverized by Iranian action.

Could up post those reports up ?

9 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

That post was written by AI.

So what ? Theres a bunch of you on here who use it exclusively.

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Those strikes were in the name of peace - or do you not think strikes on ISIS and Boko Haram are justified ?

Ah, so those strikes were in the name of peace. Fair enough, but what/who was the strike that killed 160 school girls in Iran in the name of? This guy?

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Those strikes were in the name of peace - or do you not think strikes on ISIS and Boko Haram are justified ?

The lines between 'peace' and 'violence' are not being blurred here - the lines between rhetoric and intellectual dishonesty are.

I think it’s unreasonable to pick 1 strike and use it to whitewash the others.

However you look at it, his record of violence is horrific.

4 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I think it’s unreasonable to pick 1 strike and use it to whitewash the others.

However you look at it, his record of violence is horrific.

Answered above - without bias, without emotion, without rhetoric, without politcal persuasion.

6 minutes ago, Slowhand225 said:

So what ? Theres a bunch of you on here who use it exclusively.

Then that's a breach of forum rules and should be reported.

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

In response to this specific point - there really isn’t a single, objective way to rank the “most violent” US president.

There is!

Which president has attacked the most counties without the approval of Congress

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

If some of the reports I have read are correct, Israel has imposed a news blackout on Tel Aviv being pulverized by Iranian action.

Serious charges for anyone sending photos or videos of damage outside the country.

You wont post those reports up .

I have seen those reports as well .

Fake A.I made Iranian reports showing Iran bombing Israel .

You are spreading fake Iranian propaganda

12 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

That's what he does his entire contribution to this forum is lying about Trump

The exact same way as all our lies trying to defend the indefensible Trump for his overseas actions!

Please note that as usual your internal situation is your responsibility as your lot voted for him BUT the rest of the world did NOT!