Isuzu Or Nissan?

[jenniferjuniper]

Currently still amassing the dosh but I think 2009 may well be the year I actually retire to LoS, fingers crossed and all and will buy a general purpose pair of wheels capable of anything. Don't know exactly where we will be " permanently " but trips up country and round about suggest something rugged will be needed.The Toyota fortuner is NOT an option or indeed any other poser girly weekend warrior car!

During our trip last year I visited an Isuzu showroom looking at the DMax model. It seemed to tick the boxes and the price was very competitive but getting back home to the Uk I did some research and established it was just a variant of an older model with an engine knocked out by GM shared under their Chevy badge.Admittedly, what Isuzu don't know about diesel engine manufacture isn't probably worth knowing but it still begs the question, is their alliance with GM likely to produce a vehicle as good as a wholly owned Jap concern?

The Nissan Navarra is reported as the more modern and according to the motoring press here it even has the edge over the Toyota Vigo.

What do members think?

[torrenova]

By 2009 your choice will be supplemented by the new models which should reach the showrooms then. I've got a D-Max and its fine but obviously they become refined with each passing generation. I don't think you can make your mind up just yet.

[martynsnowman]

Currently still amassing the dosh but I think 2009 may well be the year I actually retire to LoS, fingers crossed and all and will buy a general purpose pair of wheels capable of anything. Don't know exactly where we will be " permanently " but trips up country and round about suggest something rugged will be needed.The Toyota fortuner is NOT an option or indeed any other poser girly weekend warrior car!

During our trip last year I visited an Isuzu showroom looking at the DMax model. It seemed to tick the boxes and the price was very competitive but getting back home to the Uk I did some research and established it was just a variant of an older model with an engine knocked out by GM shared under their Chevy badge.Admittedly, what Isuzu don't know about diesel engine manufacture isn't probably worth knowing but it still begs the question, is their alliance with GM likely to produce a vehicle as good as a wholly owned Jap concern?

The Nissan Navarra is reported as the more modern and according to the motoring press here it even has the edge over the Toyota Vigo.

What do members think?

hi jennifer,

i,ve had a navarra now for about 9 months from new 4 door 2 wheel drive still could,nt be happier fuel v.good too that may be down to the 6th gear on main roads, we,re driving from udon thani to hua hin this weekend so i,ll see the fuel better then . if your paying cash theres good deals to be had . spot on pick up . IMHO. martyn.

[phutoie2]

Very pleased with my Nav after 8 months of ownership, its a two door king cab 4 x 2 LE.

Just been in for a service at the local dealer 1425 baht. I noticed you can still buy our vehicle at 629,000 baht, thats 10,000 baht up from when I bought mine, but still very good value.

Agree with the comments on 6th gear and fuel consumption, it has an 80 litre tank as well. I have just done Petchabun/Sa Kaeo/Ayutthaya/Petchabun on a full tank, also excellent people carriers. Recent journey to local market in my wifes village - seven in front and 12 in the back.

At the end of the day though it is still a basic truck and I view it in the same way as my old works transit van.

Nissan have a good website in Thailand for info- in English too.

[mikethevigoman]

Currently still amassing the dosh but I think 2009 may well be the year I actually retire to LoS, fingers crossed and all and will buy a general purpose pair of wheels capable of anything. Don't know exactly where we will be " permanently " but trips up country and round about suggest something rugged will be needed.The Toyota fortuner is NOT an option or indeed any other poser girly weekend warrior car!

During our trip last year I visited an Isuzu showroom looking at the DMax model. It seemed to tick the boxes and the price was very competitive but getting back home to the Uk I did some research and established it was just a variant of an older model with an engine knocked out by GM shared under their Chevy badge.Admittedly, what Isuzu don't know about diesel engine manufacture isn't probably worth knowing but it still begs the question, is their alliance with GM likely to produce a vehicle as good as a wholly owned Jap concern?

The Nissan Navarra is reported as the more modern and according to the motoring press here it even has the edge over the Toyota Vigo.

What do members think?

nissan is a lot more modern in design than the isuzu,id say nissan,

[torrenova]

Mike,

Is your finger on the pulse for when the next updates of the Vigo and D-Max are due. Not just cosmetic like the D-Max Gold but mechanical as well.

Cheers.

[Lilawadee]

trips up country and round about suggest something rugged will be needed.The Toyota fortuner is NOT an option or indeed any other poser girly weekend warrior car!

I don't own a Fortuner but I find it puzzling why you would arrive at that conclusion.. The Fortuner is based on the Hi-Lux pick-up, which ruggedness really is beyond any reasonable doubt; it's a 'proper' 4WD construction on a big steel frame, so very different from the recently popular crowd of 'softroaders' like the Honda CRV and all those. Add to that the space it offers, and a quick look at the price tag will explain why this is such a popular vehicle.

During our trip last year I visited an Isuzu showroom looking at the DMax model. It seemed to tick the boxes and the price was very competitive but getting back home to the Uk I did some research and established it was just a variant of an older model with an engine knocked out by GM shared under their Chevy badge.

I can't agree with that either; Isuzu has been owned by GM pretty much forever. In fact for their more recent 1 tonne Chevy Colorado truck they took an unmodified Isuzu truck and added some very superficial style tweaks and slapped their badge on. Isuzu is King in Thailand in terms of popularity and resale value. Initially the D-Max retained the existing engine, but for many years now it has the modern common rail i-Teq engine that's as up to date as anything else out there in truck-land.

Admittedly, what Isuzu don't know about diesel engine manufacture isn't probably worth knowing but it still begs the question, is their alliance with GM likely to produce a vehicle as good as a wholly owned Jap concern?

EVERY truck on the Thai market is Japanese designed and Thai built, usually with reliability and ruggedness in mind. This includes the Ford truck just the same. So no real difference there.

The Nissan Navarra is reported as the more modern and according to the motoring press here it even has the edge over the Toyota Vigo.

And yet the Navarra had been on the market outside of Thailand for over a year (or more?) before finally being released in Thailand. Not saying it's outdated, but it's on a similar level with the rest.

My opinion: Vigo is due for a minor-change update, and by the time you get to Thailand Isuzu will have a new model out I think.

[jenniferjuniper]

Thanx for the replies.

Perhaps it is just the power of advertising but I still have the feeling the Nissan is the way to go. Any bias against Isuzu is probably because I currently have a Saab but will never buy a new model which is just a Vauxhall Vectra in drag courtesy of General Motors. Isuzu used to provide the diesels for the Saab range but they were regarded as a bit agricultural and I believe they have now been replaced by Alfa Romeo/Fiat engines.

Anyways, I have still another year to go at least before shelling out.

P.S. No doubt the Fortuner is a grand car but I would be a little fearful of taking it out into the bush during the rainy season.

[martynsnowman]

Thanx for the replies.

Perhaps it is just the power of advertising but I still have the feeling the Nissan is the way to go. Any bias against Isuzu is probably because I currently have a Saab but will never buy a new model which is just a Vauxhall Vectra in drag courtesy of General Motors. Isuzu used to provide the diesels for the Saab range but they were regarded as a bit agricultural and I believe they have now been replaced by Alfa Romeo/Fiat engines.

Anyways, I have still another year to go at least before shelling out.

P.S. No doubt the Fortuner is a grand car but I would be a little fearful of taking it out into the bush during the rainy season.

hi jennifer , just done the round trip from udon thani to hua hin around 800km each way took 9 hours and 4000bt of diesel still got about 1/4 tank left, only i drove and only stopped for fuel got little lost in bkk on way there, fine coming back but got stopped 3 times by bib. twice in bkk once in issan all on teturn jurney. no fines , overall i found the nissan very comffy , good seats , 6 disc c.d good not need change all the time .i hope that helps ..... martyn..

[Gary A]

I was reading on a Nissan website that Nissan is the most popular truck in the world particularly in Europe. Has anyone else seen that claim and is it a fact or just wishful thinking?

Looking at a parked Navara, I'm pretty sure I saw vents on the dash for directing forced air to the windshield. Am I correct? I have seen no other truck that has dash vents to de-fog the windshield.

[mikethevigoman]

Mike,

Is your finger on the pulse for when the next updates of the Vigo and D-Max are due. Not just cosmetic like the D-Max Gold but mechanical as well.

Cheers.

No but an interesting question, both are due for an update and by the look of isuzu grasping at straws by doing a gold package and minor changes id say a new model is not far off, the navara on the other hand is relatively new and may well stay the same for a couple more years, its a tough call to pinpoint a buy for 09 now, id wait and see,.if toyota model the vigo on the new tundra it will be awesome, lets hope ,.

[mikethevigoman]

I was reading on a Nissan website that Nissan is the most popular truck in the world particularly in Europe. Has anyone else seen that claim and is it a fact or just wishful thinking?

Looking at a parked Navara, I'm pretty sure I saw vents on the dash for directing forced air to the windshield. Am I correct? I have seen no other truck that has dash vents to de-fog the windshield.

its true im afraid, the european navara is built/assembled in spain and it does out sell all other trucks,ac can be directed on screen,i think nissans probem in thailand was releasing it too late, maybe they had a load of frontiers to dispose of first, funnily enough our neighbors in cambodia will have to pay double almost for a left hand drive navara/pathfinder as its imported from spain,( pathfinder is there now, navara in march ) hence i dont think many will be sold down there at all,.after saying that has anyone else noticed how many landcruisers and lexus there are in cambodia ! im surprised there are any left in the usa ! jeez every other car in phnom penh is a lexus ,...

[Gary A]

I was reading on a Nissan website that Nissan is the most popular truck in the world particularly in Europe. Has anyone else seen that claim and is it a fact or just wishful thinking?

Looking at a parked Navara, I'm pretty sure I saw vents on the dash for directing forced air to the windshield. Am I correct? I have seen no other truck that has dash vents to de-fog the windshield.

its true im afraid, the european navara is built/assembled in spain and it does out sell all other trucks,ac can be directed on screen,i think nissans probem in thailand was releasing it too late, maybe they had a load of frontiers to dispose of first, funnily enough our neighbors in cambodia will have to pay double almost for a left hand drive navara/pathfinder as its imported from spain,( pathfinder is there now, navara in march ) hence i dont think many will be sold down there at all,.after saying that has anyone else noticed how many landcruisers and lexus there are in cambodia ! im surprised there are any left in the usa ! jeez every other car in phnom penh is a lexus ,...

I saw in the Bangkok Post that all pickup sales were down in Thailand EXCEPT the Navara. It's sales were up 43 or 48 percent. I don't remember for sure.

[mikethevigoman]

I was reading on a Nissan website that Nissan is the most popular truck in the world particularly in Europe. Has anyone else seen that claim and is it a fact or just wishful thinking?

Looking at a parked Navara, I'm pretty sure I saw vents on the dash for directing forced air to the windshield. Am I correct? I have seen no other truck that has dash vents to de-fog the windshield.

its true im afraid, the european navara is built/assembled in spain and it does out sell all other trucks,ac can be directed on screen,i think nissans probem in thailand was releasing it too late, maybe they had a load of frontiers to dispose of first, funnily enough our neighbors in cambodia will have to pay double almost for a left hand drive navara/pathfinder as its imported from spain,( pathfinder is there now, navara in march ) hence i dont think many will be sold down there at all,.after saying that has anyone else noticed how many landcruisers and lexus there are in cambodia ! im surprised there are any left in the usa ! jeez every other car in phnom penh is a lexus ,...

I saw in the Bangkok Post that all pickup sales were down in Thailand EXCEPT the Navara. It's sales were up 43 or 48 percent. I don't remember for sure.

I would think thats true, the thaIs are not quick to accept change but i visit the nissan dealer every week and they are moving them for sure,.

[Gary A]

I was reading on a Nissan website that Nissan is the most popular truck in the world particularly in Europe. Has anyone else seen that claim and is it a fact or just wishful thinking?

Looking at a parked Navara, I'm pretty sure I saw vents on the dash for directing forced air to the windshield. Am I correct? I have seen no other truck that has dash vents to de-fog the windshield.

its true im afraid, the european navara is built/assembled in spain and it does out sell all other trucks,ac can be directed on screen,i think nissans probem in thailand was releasing it too late, maybe they had a load of frontiers to dispose of first, funnily enough our neighbors in cambodia will have to pay double almost for a left hand drive navara/pathfinder as its imported from spain,( pathfinder is there now, navara in march ) hence i dont think many will be sold down there at all,.after saying that has anyone else noticed how many landcruisers and lexus there are in cambodia ! im surprised there are any left in the usa ! jeez every other car in phnom penh is a lexus ,...

I saw in the Bangkok Post that all pickup sales were down in Thailand EXCEPT the Navara. It's sales were up 43 or 48 percent. I don't remember for sure.

I would think thats true, the thaIs are not quick to accept change but i visit the nissan dealer every week and they are moving them for sure,.

My 2004 Frontier has been bulletproof so I may have to reconsider buying an Isuzu. I was quite disappointed that Nissan chose to hop up a 2.5 liter rather than the 3.0 liter diesel. My 3.0 liter non turbo gets 15 kilometers per liter on the highway and I offered to make Plus a wager for 10,000 baht that I would prove it to him by driving with him from Loei to Jomtien. He declined to take the bet but he still thinks I am a liar.

I really want a 4X4 and have been looking around for a reliable shop to convert my 2 wheel drive Frontier. Two shops have recommended taking it to Nissan, so the next service, I'll ask them. I think a Nissan dealer will be very expensive but I'll ask anyways.

[Plus]

It's hard to believe that a large, 2004 non-turbo engine that has long been discontinued had better fuel economy than current crop of smaller, modern engines from the same manufacturer.

15km/l is a tough task, I doubt anyone else ever gets the same economy from whatever truck they are driving, even the newest ones.

And just how did you measure fuel consumption anyway? You can easily check the distance but how do you meausure the fuel? Using a fuel gauge on a dash board?

[Globeliner]

I was reading on a Nissan website that Nissan is the most popular truck in the world particularly in Europe. Has anyone else seen that claim and is it a fact or just wishful thinking?

Looking at a parked Navara, I'm pretty sure I saw vents on the dash for directing forced air to the windshield. Am I correct? I have seen no other truck that has dash vents to de-fog the windshield.

its true im afraid, the european navara is built/assembled in spain and it does out sell all other trucks,ac can be directed on screen,i think nissans probem in thailand was releasing it too late, maybe they had a load of frontiers to dispose of first, funnily enough our neighbors in cambodia will have to pay double almost for a left hand drive navara/pathfinder as its imported from spain,( pathfinder is there now, navara in march ) hence i dont think many will be sold down there at all,.after saying that has anyone else noticed how many landcruisers and lexus there are in cambodia ! im surprised there are any left in the usa ! jeez every other car in phnom penh is a lexus ,...

I saw in the Bangkok Post that all pickup sales were down in Thailand EXCEPT the Navara. It's sales were up 43 or 48 percent. I don't remember for sure.

Get a Ford Ranger. Nissans, Toyotas, Mitsubuishi's etc are all cheap rubbish that won't last, plus the drivers of those fortuner things are idiots

[Gary A]

It's hard to believe that a large, 2004 non-turbo engine that has long been discontinued had better fuel economy than current crop of smaller, modern engines from the same manufacturer.

15km/l is a tough task, I doubt anyone else ever gets the same economy from whatever truck they are driving, even the newest ones.

And just how did you measure fuel consumption anyway? You can easily check the distance but how do you meausure the fuel? Using a fuel gauge on a dash board?

It's easily solved. Put your money where your mouth is and we'll let someone hold the wager. I'll drive you from Udon Thani to Jomtien and let you top it back off at the pump. You can then use your calculator to figure the kilometers per liter. It is completely stock and has only been back to the dealer for regular service.

I might add that the lemon Toyota got 10.5 kilometers per liter on the same trips.

[Maigo6]

It's easily solved. Put your money where your mouth is and we'll let someone hold the wager. I'll drive you from Udon Thani to Jomtien and let you top it back off at the pump. You can then use your calculator to figure the kilometers per liter. It is completely stock and has only been back to the dealer for regular service.

I might add that the lemon Toyota got 10.5 kilometers per liter on the same trips.

My old Toyota Tiger was probably getting about 10/11 Kilometres per litre.

My Fortuner has returned me 12.8 Kilometres per litre on a run from Loei to Pattaya. Then again, that same trip has cost me 20% more fuel also, just depends how I drive.

I for one believe that in a non turbo 2WD pick up, driven carefully, 15 Kms per litre would be achievable on that same run as it's all pretty easy going, until you hit the Chonburi area, where of course the economy suffers with the ammount of heavy traffic.

[Gary A]

It's easily solved. Put your money where your mouth is and we'll let someone hold the wager. I'll drive you from Udon Thani to Jomtien and let you top it back off at the pump. You can then use your calculator to figure the kilometers per liter. It is completely stock and has only been back to the dealer for regular service.

I might add that the lemon Toyota got 10.5 kilometers per liter on the same trips.

My old Toyota Tiger was probably getting about 10/11 Kilometres per litre.

My Fortuner has returned me 12.8 Kilometres per litre on a run from Loei to Pattaya. Then again, that same trip has cost me 20% more fuel also, just depends how I drive.

I for one believe that in a non turbo 2WD pick up, driven carefully, 15 Kms per litre would be achievable on that same run as it's all pretty easy going, until you hit the Chonburi area, where of course the economy suffers with the ammount of heavy traffic.

I'm quite disappointed with my Ford Focus 1.8 liter gasoline engine. You get with the fortuner about what I can get with the focus. I'm hoping it will loosen up a little more and get maybe 14 KPL if I take it easy. I wish the diesel had been around last year when I bought the car.

[Thaiboxer]

Gary A, my fellow American, you say your Nissan is a non-turbo. How is the acceleration on it? I would consider buying a non-turbo as that's one less component to go bad on you plus you can give the engine regular oil instead of synthetic. There is a 2005 4-door Nissan for sale in my mother-in-law's neighborhood. Not sure if it's turbo or not, but it looks like a solid little truck. Being a family guy, I would aim for a four door model. Our Toyota Corona takes A LOT more fuel than your truck and the engine/gearbox are about the only things that work most of the time!

[mikethevigoman]

I was reading on a Nissan website that Nissan is the most popular truck in the world particularly in Europe. Has anyone else seen that claim and is it a fact or just wishful thinking?

Looking at a parked Navara, I'm pretty sure I saw vents on the dash for directing forced air to the windshield. Am I correct? I have seen no other truck that has dash vents to de-fog the windshield.

its true im afraid, the european navara is built/assembled in spain and it does out sell all other trucks,ac can be directed on screen,i think nissans probem in thailand was releasing it too late, maybe they had a load of frontiers to dispose of first, funnily enough our neighbors in cambodia will have to pay double almost for a left hand drive navara/pathfinder as its imported from spain,( pathfinder is there now, navara in march ) hence i dont think many will be sold down there at all,.after saying that has anyone else noticed how many landcruisers and lexus there are in cambodia ! im surprised there are any left in the usa ! jeez every other car in phnom penh is a lexus ,...

I saw in the Bangkok Post that all pickup sales were down in Thailand EXCEPT the Navara. It's sales were up 43 or 48 percent. I don't remember for sure.

Get a Ford Ranger. Nissans, Toyotas, Mitsubuishi's etc are all cheap rubbish that won't last, plus the drivers of those fortuner things are idiots

Ford ranger sells the least of the lot, i wonder why ?

[Plus]

It's hard to believe that a large, 2004 non-turbo engine that has long been discontinued had better fuel economy than current crop of smaller, modern engines from the same manufacturer.

15km/l is a tough task, I doubt anyone else ever gets the same economy from whatever truck they are driving, even the newest ones.

And just how did you measure fuel consumption anyway? You can easily check the distance but how do you meausure the fuel? Using a fuel gauge on a dash board?

It's easily solved. ....

You can then use your calculator to figure the kilometers per liter. ....

The question is not about how to use the calculator, the question is how you measure amount of fuel in your tank.

Basically you are saying that 3l non-turbo Nissan got 150% better fuel economy than 3l non-turbo Toyota of the same age, but then Nissan dropped the techonology and produced engines as thirsty as Toyotas.

It's hard to believe.

[Gary A]

It's hard to believe that a large, 2004 non-turbo engine that has long been discontinued had better fuel economy than current crop of smaller, modern engines from the same manufacturer.

15km/l is a tough task, I doubt anyone else ever gets the same economy from whatever truck they are driving, even the newest ones.

And just how did you measure fuel consumption anyway? You can easily check the distance but how do you meausure the fuel? Using a fuel gauge on a dash board?

It's easily solved. ....

You can then use your calculator to figure the kilometers per liter. ....

The question is not about how to use the calculator, the question is how you measure amount of fuel in your tank.

Basically you are saying that 3l non-turbo Nissan got 150% better fuel economy than 3l non-turbo Toyota of the same age, but then Nissan dropped the techonology and produced engines as thirsty as Toyotas.

It's hard to believe.

I have no idea how you do it but I fill the tank and zero the odometer trip reading. I then drive until the tank is nearly empty and fill it again. I divide how many liters it took to fill the tank into the amount of kilometers traveled and that gives kilometers per liter. Even you should be able to understand that. I AM saying that I get 15 kilometers per liter of diesel on the highway and am quite willing to prove it to you. Put up or shut up.

[Globeliner]

I was reading on a Nissan website that Nissan is the most popular truck in the world particularly in Europe. Has anyone else seen that claim and is it a fact or just wishful thinking?

Looking at a parked Navara, I'm pretty sure I saw vents on the dash for directing forced air to the windshield. Am I correct? I have seen no other truck that has dash vents to de-fog the windshield.

its true im afraid, the european navara is built/assembled in spain and it does out sell all other trucks,ac can be directed on screen,i think nissans probem in thailand was releasing it too late, maybe they had a load of frontiers to dispose of first, funnily enough our neighbors in cambodia will have to pay double almost for a left hand drive navara/pathfinder as its imported from spain,( pathfinder is there now, navara in march ) hence i dont think many will be sold down there at all,.after saying that has anyone else noticed how many landcruisers and lexus there are in cambodia ! im surprised there are any left in the usa ! jeez every other car in phnom penh is a lexus ,...

I saw in the Bangkok Post that all pickup sales were down in Thailand EXCEPT the Navara. It's sales were up 43 or 48 percent. I don't remember for sure.

Get a Ford Ranger. Nissans, Toyotas, Mitsubuishi's etc are all cheap rubbish that won't last, plus the drivers of those fortuner things are idiots

Ford ranger sells the least of the lot, i wonder why ?

The reason being that Ford is more expensive than crappy <deleted> you'd buy

[MrChokChai]

i am buying the isuzu

resale is the reason!!!

mcc

[Gary A]

i am buying the isuzu

resale is the reason!!!

mcc

If you don't plan to keep it too long that's a good reason. If you are like a friend of mine you won't get much for it. He has had his for about nine years and has put 285,000 kilometers on it. He claims he is going to drive it until it dies. Considering the way the engine still runs, that may be a VERY long time yet.

[mikethevigoman]

I was reading on a Nissan website that Nissan is the most popular truck in the world particularly in Europe. Has anyone else seen that claim and is it a fact or just wishful thinking?

Looking at a parked Navara, I'm pretty sure I saw vents on the dash for directing forced air to the windshield. Am I correct? I have seen no other truck that has dash vents to de-fog the windshield.

its true im afraid, the european navara is built/assembled in spain and it does out sell all other trucks,ac can be directed on screen,i think nissans probem in thailand was releasing it too late, maybe they had a load of frontiers to dispose of first, funnily enough our neighbors in cambodia will have to pay double almost for a left hand drive navara/pathfinder as its imported from spain,( pathfinder is there now, navara in march ) hence i dont think many will be sold down there at all,.after saying that has anyone else noticed how many landcruisers and lexus there are in cambodia ! im surprised there are any left in the usa ! jeez every other car in phnom penh is a lexus ,...

I saw in the Bangkok Post that all pickup sales were down in Thailand EXCEPT the Navara. It's sales were up 43 or 48 percent. I don't remember for sure.

Get a Ford Ranger. Nissans, Toyotas, Mitsubuishi's etc are all cheap rubbish that won't last, plus the drivers of those fortuner things are idiots

Ford ranger sells the least of the lot, i wonder why ?

The reason being that Ford is more expensive than crappy <deleted> you'd buy

Really ? <deleted> ? i dare you to start a vigo ranger topic !i dont buy on price, why pay superior money for an inferior product !, and thats not based on my assumtion,but on sales figures,. where you got your idea from god knows !,its a mazda anyway, but as im in the accessory business i stick to what sells, the ford is not a good seller full stop, dont beleive me? take look at the figures, personally i have nothing against it and wouldnt go as far as to call it <deleted> such as you have done to me, however il think of it as little knowledge is dangerous,.

[Plus]

I have no idea how you do it but I fill the tank and zero the odometer trip reading. I then drive until the tank is nearly empty and fill it again. I divide how many liters it took to fill the tank into the amount of kilometers traveled and that gives kilometers per liter. Even you should be able to understand that. I AM saying that I get 15 kilometers per liter of diesel on the highway and am quite willing to prove it to you. Put up or shut up.

It would work with reasonable accuracy only if you keep records for several refills. How much diesel they put in your tank is not exactly how much diesel your truck consumed.

"Nearly empty" tank in my truck still has up to 10-15 liters in it.

[mikethevigoman]

I have no idea how you do it but I fill the tank and zero the odometer trip reading. I then drive until the tank is nearly empty and fill it again. I divide how many liters it took to fill the tank into the amount of kilometers traveled and that gives kilometers per liter. Even you should be able to understand that. I AM saying that I get 15 kilometers per liter of diesel on the highway and am quite willing to prove it to you. Put up or shut up.

It would work with reasonable accuracy only if you keep records for several refills. How much diesel they put in your tank is not exactly how much diesel your truck consumed.

"Nearly empty" tank in my truck still has up to 10-15 liters in it.

the way to check fuel consumption is do a "neck to neck", fill the truck right up, drive as far as you want, ( without running out ) then fill it to the neck again and calculate, it wil be more or less spot on,