Thaksin and Wife Fail to Board Return Flight

[Jai Dee]

Supreme Army Commander says he is not concerned about political asylum of former PM

Supreme Army Commander General Boonsarng Niempradit (บุญสร้าง เนียมประดิษฐ) stated that he is not concerned over the request for political asylum to the United Kingdom of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

He asked that citizens not be caught up in the issues of a single person, stating that Democracy is powered by people and thus the authority of a majority of people will ultimately overthrow the influence of a single person and money.

General Boonsarng quipped that he himself does not wish to have a large amount of assets as they only lead to complication.

Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 14 August 2008

[Old Man River]

When will Thailand lose its obsession on seeing everything in terms of Thaksin, and this is very much true of PPP, PAD, Dems, Shadowy powers and ordinary people? It is time for some substantive debate on where the country is going and where it should position itself. Policies and the devlopment of a country cannot be pressaged on an obsession with one person.

Thaksin's cases are in the court. One will continue the others will be on hold until his return, which as they are in the court probably exempts them from statute of limitations. That is how it should be. He is in the UK and highly unlikely to invest another fortune (by any mere mortals standards) in the next election. This means whatever side you take there is actually an opportunity to move forward. Right now it amazingly seems nobody actally wants to take it.

Sorry Hammered but I think he will invest a lot in the next election, he can't afford to see PPP lose power, they're needed in order to put friendly faces in the right places.

I believe this game will not be over for the duration of Thaksin's life.

Roughly how much do you think it would cost him?

[Jai Dee]

Prosecutor awaiting extradition request

The chief public prosecutor for foreign litigation said yesterday he was waiting for written requests from relevant agencies before seeking to extradite former premier Thaksin Shinawatra and his wife to face corruption trials in Thailand.

Sirisak Tiyaphan, director-general of the Office of the Attorney-General's Foreign Litigation Department, said that while waiting for orders from the courts and prosecutors dealing with the cases, lawyers in his unit would study laws of both England and Thailand on the extradition of people wanted at home.

He said that in setting the priority for each case, prosecutors for foreign litigation would also consider the statute of limitations for the different charges the fugitive couple face.

Thaksin, Pojaman and their three children are now in England. Thaksin issued a hand-written statement on Monday, saying he and his wife would prefer to remain there as long as justice and safety could not be guaranteed back home. He claimed they faced court trials influenced by political interference that would be unfair.

The Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders issued arrest warrants for Thaksin and Pojaman and ordered their Bt13-million bail money seized after they failed to appear for the last hearing of the Ratchadaphisek land case.

Meanwhile, Seksan Bangsomboon, a senior public prosecutor heading the group on the Ratchadaphisek case, said the court had not ordered the defendants - now fugitives - to be brought back. He said he expected the court to make an order in regard to the matter at the next hearing of defence witnesses tomorrow.

Seksan said that with a clear instruction from the court, he would later work with the Foreign Litigation Department to try to get Thaksin and Pojaman extradited back home.

He also said that prosecutors were due to hear on Sept 16 whether they could indict the couple for another case involving corruption and SC Asset Co.

If Thaksin and Pojaman failed to show up for that appointment, he would report to Attorney-General Chaikasem Nitisiri for instructions on what further action to take.

The couple's bond of Bt1 million each might be seized if they failed to show up on Sept 16, he said.

Nanthasak Poonsuk, another senior prosecutor in the Ratchadaphisek case, said he expected the court would not suspend the trial despite the two defendants having fled.

Given the court had heard witnesses in the defendants' absence, he said it was likely it would continue with the last hearing of defence witnesses scheduled on Aug 22 and then schedule the reading of the verdict.

The prosecutor also expected the court would hand down its verdict despite the defendants being absent. He said defence lawyers might seek permission to allow the defendants to provide further testimony in a written form from abroad.

Meanwhile, PM's Office Minister Choosak Sirinin said yesterday the government did not need to explain former prime minister Thaksin Shinwatra's attack on the judiciary.

"He made his personal view and observation and that has nothing to do with the government,'' Choosak said.

In a statement read out on NBT TV, Thaksin accused the judiciary of having double standards and having been subject to political interference. He claimed that was the reason he chose to flee instead of fighting the graft charges he has been accused of.

The Foreign Ministry would decide on Thaksin's status, he said, whether he stayed in the United Kingdom as an asylum seeker, tourist, or resident.

Source: The Nation - 14 August 2008

[Jai Dee]

Supreme Commander affirms Mr. Thaksin's departure will not cause dissent among Thai people

The Supreme Commander of the Royal Thai Armed Forces, Gen. Boonsrang Niempradit (บุญสร้าง เนียมประดิษฐ์), affirms that the departure of former premiere Thaksin Shinawatra will not cause dissent if the Thai public used reason and rationale.

Gen. Boonsrang said that Mr. Thaksin Shinawatra, and Khunying Potjaman Shinawatra's appeal for political asylum in the United Kingdom will not cause further political conflict in Thailand, if citizens used reason and rationale, and refrain from mass hysteria. He said that if Thai citizens are weak, then Thai democracy will become weak. The supreme commander adds that whether or not Mr. Thaksin will ever regain power in Thailan depends on the Thai public.

Gen. Boonsrang personally views that the nation is currently lacking in resolve, unity, and strength. He said that the public should not become alarmed over trivial political matters involving Mr. Thaksin, as the government will handle the issue.

Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 14 August 2008

[plachon]

When will Thailand lose its obsession on seeing everything in terms of Thaksin, and this is very much true of PPP, PAD, Dems, Shadowy powers and ordinary people? It is time for some substantive debate on where the country is going and where it should position itself. Policies and the devlopment of a country cannot be pressaged on an obsession with one person.

Thaksin's cases are in the court. One will continue the others will be on hold until his return, which as they are in the court probably exempts them from statute of limitations. That is how it should be. He is in the UK and highly unlikely to invest another fortune (by any mere mortals standards) in the next election. This means whatever side you take there is actually an opportunity to move forward. Right now it amazingly seems nobody actally wants to take it.

Sorry Hammered but I think he will invest a lot in the next election, he can't afford to see PPP lose power, they're needed in order to put friendly faces in the right places.

I believe this game will not be over for the duration of Thaksin's life.

I'm with you on this one Siripon. Toxin is not going to just roll over in exile and take up a life of pro-celeb golf, the odd trip incognito to watch MCFC lose and karaoke evenings with hot chicks in Weybridge (unlike any normal person might with his stash).

He's lost a knight, maybe a bishop and is now licking his wounds and preparing to regroup for the next counter-attack. I wouldn't put anything past this ai hia in the lengths to recover his power, face and frozen assets. If it means using up two thirds his immense fortune (how much was it at last count?) to buy off every judge in the land and tip the next election in his favour, he would probably still go for it. This guy's not down and out by a long chalk yet, but will bounce back off the ropes soon fighting (but don't expect Queensberry Rules). Mark my words.

More's the pity for Thailand though.

[GungaDin]

My apologies if already posted, I did do a search.

Inoculating Thailand against one-man rule

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

When the former prime minister of Thailand, Thaksin Shinawatra, flew into London on Sunday night, fleeing indictment and a Monday court date in Bangkok, he illustrated the old saw that the very rich are very different from you and me. Thaksin's wealth and influence allowed him to elude corruption charges back home, enjoy an easeful exile as the owner of the Manchester City soccer club, and prepare the way for a claim of political asylum in Britain.

Thaksin's actions as a fugitive from justice merit attention not merely because he is reputed to be the richest man in Thailand or because of his international notoriety. Until he was removed from power in a bloodless coup two years ago, the media magnate presided over a debased version of democracy, a system that preserved the external forms of popular sovereignty but little of its substance.

Thaksin bought his popularity and the support of the rural poor in Thailand. He purchased or intimidated media outlets. He countenanced extra-judicial assassinations as a tool for waging a highly publicized war on drugs while leaving alone the drug lords in neighboring Burma, who are the source of that trade. He provoked popular protest when he sold his family's 49 percent share in the Shin telecommunications company for $1.9 billion to a Singaporean company and claimed exemption from any capital gains tax. And he is currently fleeing charges that he used his power to secure insider deals on real-estate purchases for family members.

In a self-pitying statement issued from London Monday, Thaksin pretended he could not receive impartial justice from the courts in Thailand.

But his own previous actions belie that claim. Back in Bangkok he had appointed defense lawyers to fight the corruption charges against him, and he recently filed his own lawsuits against critics in those same courts.

Thaksin's allegations about a tainted Thai judiciary and his assertion that the cases against him are political should be seen as transparent attempts to lay the foundation for a claim of political asylum in British courts. To daub a little icing on that cake, he included in his handwritten statement a fear that he could face assassination if he were forced to return to Thailand.

Thaksin ought to be made to answer the charges against him in the Thai courts. A fair and transparent legal process could assure justice in particular corruption cases. It could also inoculate Thailand - and perhaps other countries as well - against the malady of one-man rule by the world's richest media moguls or energy barons.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/13/opinion/edthai.php

[Chang_paarp]

Technical question.

The statute of limitations on some of the charges against Takky is 20 years.

Is that 20 years from the origonal offence, from the start of legal procedings, or the last court event?

We take the share transfer as an example, it happened in March 2006, so statute runs out 2026. (Takky aged 77)

Or does it start from when they lodge the writs, in say September 2008 Takky fails to answer writ so runs out in 2028 (Takky aged 79)

Or does it start from when the last event, came up for mention is say 2010 making the statute run out in 2030 (Taky aged 81)

Just curious, if they lodge a case every year or so, they could drag it out till Takky is well into his 90's.

[marshbags]

Technical question.

The statute of limitations on some of the charges against Takky is 20 years.

Is that 20 years from the origonal offence, from the start of legal procedings, or the last court event?

We take the share transfer as an example, it happened in March 2006, so statute runs out 2026. (Takky aged 77)

Or does it start from when they lodge the writs, in say September 2008 Takky fails to answer writ so runs out in 2028 (Takky aged 79)

Or does it start from when the last event, came up for mention is say 2010 making the statute run out in 2030 (Taky aged 81)

Just curious, if they lodge a case every year or so, they could drag it out till Takky is well into his 90's.

The Nation, August 14, 2008 : Last updated 01:56 pm

Police circulate arrest warrants for Thaksin and Pojaman

The Royal Thai Police on Thursday started distributing two arrest warrants for former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and his wife Khunying Pojaman.

The warrant for Thaksin has the statue of limitations for 15 years and the one for Pojaman is enforced for 10 years.

The Supreme Court issued the warrants on Monday after Thaksin and Pojaman jumped bails and failed to report themselves on the Ratchadapisek land case.

marshbags

Edited August 14, 2008 by marshbags

[marshbags]

When will Thailand lose its obsession on seeing everything in terms of Thaksin, and this is very much true of PPP, PAD, Dems, Shadowy powers and ordinary people? It is time for some substantive debate on where the country is going and where it should position itself. Policies and the devlopment of a country cannot be pressaged on an obsession with one person.

Thaksin's cases are in the court. One will continue the others will be on hold until his return, which as they are in the court probably exempts them from statute of limitations. That is how it should be. He is in the UK and highly unlikely to invest another fortune (by any mere mortals standards) in the next election. This means whatever side you take there is actually an opportunity to move forward. Right now it amazingly seems nobody actally wants to take it.

Sorry Hammered but I think he will invest a lot in the next election, he can't afford to see PPP lose power, they're needed in order to put friendly faces in the right places.

I believe this game will not be over for the duration of Thaksin's life.

Roughly how much do you think it would cost him?

I wonder who the mysterious benefactor / paymaster was that put a 10mil. starter fund up for the formation of the new Mark 3 TRT party.

It has already cost Thaksin several hundred million at least in funding and still counting.

Add to this the 70 odd billion that is on hold, that he doesn,t look like getting back anytime soon, IF EVER

Add to this the 13 mil in bail bonds after failing to appear in court on Monday.

Add to this re. non monetary issues..........

In other terms relating to the man and his family, how can you quantify this at the present time, regarding an expected return that didn,t happen ????

Probably for him, in particular and more important of all, the families loss of face, power and " dodgy " reputations ect. ect.

Not bad for starters eh !!!!

marshbags

Edited August 14, 2008 by marshbags

[Samuian]

"transferred major assets - very likely to secure them for ever for himself - out of the country and the reaction of this - the direct "karma" following his deeds!"

Aplogies if I have got you wrong here but are you saying he will get bad karma for selling Shin Corp to Temasek - a foreign entity.

Hmm did not know bhudda was such a nationalist Thai

Well, look you wish to split hairs - okay go ahead!

He isn't "in the books" for avoiding taxes for this sale?

and there are no inquiries about this deal and about his hand in many other deals...

he went with his wife and children on a sightseeing trip to England?

his wife...

all "nationalist inquisition" is it this where you wish to point to?

[Old Man River]

When will Thailand lose its obsession on seeing everything in terms of Thaksin, and this is very much true of PPP, PAD, Dems, Shadowy powers and ordinary people? It is time for some substantive debate on where the country is going and where it should position itself. Policies and the devlopment of a country cannot be pressaged on an obsession with one person.

Thaksin's cases are in the court. One will continue the others will be on hold until his return, which as they are in the court probably exempts them from statute of limitations. That is how it should be. He is in the UK and highly unlikely to invest another fortune (by any mere mortals standards) in the next election. This means whatever side you take there is actually an opportunity to move forward. Right now it amazingly seems nobody actally wants to take it.

Sorry Hammered but I think he will invest a lot in the next election, he can't afford to see PPP lose power, they're needed in order to put friendly faces in the right places.

I believe this game will not be over for the duration of Thaksin's life.

Roughly how much do you think it would cost him?

I wonder who the mysterious benefactor / paymaster was that put a 10mil. starter fund up for the formation of the new Mark 3 TRT party.

It has already cost Thaksin several hundred million at least in funding and still counting.

Add to this the 70 odd billion that is on hold, that he doesn,t look like getting back anytime soon, IF EVER

Add to this the 13 mil in bail bonds after failing to appear in court on Monday.

Add to this re. non monetary issues..........

In other terms relating to the man and his family, how can you quantify this at the present time, regarding an expected return that didn,t happen ????

Probably for him, in particular and more important of all, the families loss of face, power and " dodgy " reputations ect. ect.

Not bad for starters eh !!!!

marshbags

There was a rumored price paid for joining the TRT in 2001. Those that could confirm this were not talking and of course it was never in print, hence, no need to discuss this further here.

Given the former PM's apparent financial difficulties, should the PPP be dissolved it will be interesting to see if the rumored number changes.

[sriracha john]

Their arrest warrants have been issued...

WANTED: FOR BAIL-JUMPING AND TAX EVASION

Police distribute arrest warrants of ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra and his wife; Pojaman, after they jumped bails on corruption charges and fled to England.

The Nation

Edited August 14, 2008 by sriracha john

[majorpacman]

The diplomatic passports should have NOT given to back to Sponge bob and his greedy wife in the first place.

This proof that's he still have corrupted ass politician in the government, since the recent Foreign minster(the stupid guy that sign the temple deal) resigned.

if you no longer in politic or got kicked out(hint:coup)......why the hel_l did he get his diplomatic passports back. Talk about some fuc_ked up shit.

sigh...sorry about the languages..

yup....the Pig face(samak) and his piglets still corrupted and will steal more of the thai people moneys and rights.....

when will the thai people wake or eat very spicy papaya salad and WAKE UP!

[JetsetBkk]

...why the hel_l did he get his diplomatic passports back...

A stack or ten of these, I guess:

[Jingthing]

It could also inoculate Thailand - and perhaps other countries as well - against the malady of one-man rule by the world's richest media moguls or energy barons.

The Herald Tribune (published by the esteemed liberal New York Times) scored a home run with that editorial. Come back and sleep in the bed you made! I also appreciate their emphasis on his involvement in the murders of his own nationals. It pains me that Thais don't seem to mention this much.

Edited August 14, 2008 by Jingthing

[sriracha john]

Their image on mug shuts, standing in front of the common criminals' ubiquitous height chart, is terrifically poetic.

[aka_jack]

So what happens with Pojaman now as she has already been convicted and sentenced, does this mean she loses her right to appeal, will she have to serve her sentence if she ever comes back??

[sriracha john]

So what happens with Pojaman now as she has already been convicted and sentenced, does this mean she loses her right to appeal, will she have to serve her sentence if she ever comes back??

She has 30 days in which to file an appeal.... tick tock, tick tock... afterwhich, if she does return...she'd be required to serve her adjudicated 1,095 days in prison.

[sriracha john]

Warrants issued for Thaksin, Pojaman

The Royal Thai Police started distributing arrest warrants yesterday for former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and his wife.

The warrant for Thaksin is valid for 15 years but the one for his wife Pojaman can only be enforced for 10 years.

The Supreme Court issued the warrants on Monday after Thaksin and Pojaman jumped bail and failed to report for a hearing of the Ratchadaphisek land case. With the family having fled to London, the next step for police is to coordinate with the Office of the Attorney General to initiate an extradition request, a police spokesman said.

Meanwhile, a lawyer for Thaksin, Wichit Plangsrikul, claimed the police move to distribute arrest warrants for the couple across the country could be deemed an abuse. "The police action was not suitable and might have broken the law because they deliberately defamed them. The police did not need to do that because Thaksin had said he and his family would live in the United Kingdom."

Wichit said Thaksin was not a felon yet because he had not been convicted by any court, so he did not believe the Attorney-General could take any move to extradite Thaksin back.

- The Nation / August 15, 2008

[sriracha john]

^ Are we sure that Khun Wichit even is a real lawyer? By his comments above, he certainly doesn't seem to understand even the basic fundamentals of how the law works. Just because a criminal defendant jumps bail and states their intention to flee from justice doesn't preclude the police department from following the Supreme Court's decision to issue arrest warrants for the bail jumpers. His second comment is even more stupid than the first.

[sriracha john]

The real reason why Thaksin and his family fled?

Aside from the Ratchada land scandal, there are three other corruption cases in which ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra is named as a defendant. These involve:

- Exim Bank loans to Burma;

- The two and three digit lotteries;

- The telecoms' excise tax that allegedly favoured Thaksin's former family business AIS.

The Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders has accepted the first two cases for trial. An initial hearing on the Exim Bank loan is scheduled for Sept 16, while the lotteries case is due to begin on Sept 26.

In the first hearing, defendants are required to appear in person. With Thaksin having fled Thailand, the court has three options for further action:

- Postpone the trial

- Issue an arrest warrant for Thaksin and reschedule the first hearing;

- Temporarily leave the case off its case-list.

The third case, on the telecoms' excise tax will be determined on Sept 3, when the court is scheduled to rule on whether the matter should go to trial. The court will also have the same options - postponing the trial, issuing an arrest warrant and delaying the hearing, or deferring the case - if the case goes to trial.

Late last year, when Thaksin and his wife Pojaman failed to appear for the first hearing of the Ratchadaphisek land case, the court ordered the case to be temporarily left off its case-list and issued warrants for their arrest.

Meanwhile, inquiries are being carried out by the National Counter Corruption Commission (NCCC) on:

- The Airport Link procurement scandal;

- Thaksin's source of funds to buy Manchester City Football Club

- Improper declarations of Thaksin's personal wealth while in office

There are also joint inquiries by the NCCC and public prosecutors into:

- Bomb scanners bought for the new airport

- Improper loans by Krung Thai Bank

A major case is also being reviewed by public prosecutors:

At stake is 69 Billion Baht from the sale of Shin Corp. The case is likely to be handed to the Civil Court next week.

Public prosecutors also need to decide whether to indict Thaksin and Pojaman for concealing their shareholdings in SC Asset.

Finally, Pojaman is expected to be targeted by the Criminal Court for tax evasion, after she was convicted recently for failing to pay tax on a share deal involving her brother.

- The Nation / August 15, 2008

[johnnyk]

IMO they allowed them their passports knowing full well they would bug out.

It gets them out of the country, almost as good as having them behind bars and much quicker, plus it dings them nicely in the wallet.

Now that she has jumped bail, Lady Macbeth knows she is for the hoosegow so that effectively keeps her away for a good long time. And I can't see MacTac coming back without her.

The official arrest warrants will keep them offshore for the foreseeable future and can complicate their lives abroad. The game is being played on more than a few levels.

Edited August 15, 2008 by johnnyk

[sriracha john]

WANTED: FOR BAIL-JUMPING AND TAX EVASION

Thaksin, wife on 'wanted' list

Warrants circulated nationwide by police

Police have added deposed PM Thaksin Shinawatra and his wife Potjaman to their "wanted list", distributing warrants for the couple's arrest to authorities concerned nationwide yesterday. Assistant National Police Chief Pol Lt-Gen Watcharapol Prasarnratchakij said the arrest warrants for the couple have been updated in police criminal records after the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions forwarded the warrants to National Police Chief Pol Gen Patcharawat Wongsuwan. The Supreme Court issued an arrest warrant on Monday for Thaksin and the one for Potjaman was issued yesterday. "Police will be circulating the arrest warrants to agencies concerned nationwide, including immigration authorities," he said. The distribution of arrest warrants enraged the couple's lawyer, Wichit Plangsrisakul, who called it an attempt to humiliate Thaksin and his wife. "There is no need to distribute the arrest warrants because Thaksin has issued a statement that he and his family have travelled to England. The police act is inappropriate and may violate the defamation law," he said. Wichit also doubted the OAG will be able to ask for the extradition of Thaksin from England as no court has convicted him of anything yet. He said the former PM has instructed his legal teams to handle all the cases, including defamation charges to

Continued here:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/150808_News/15Aug2008_news01.php

[sriracha john]

Good luck to Thaksin with his crack-pot lawyer team.

Meanwhile, it's a real crying shame for them to be humiliated for bail-jumping.

They're nothing more then the same blacklisted boiler room sellers and banned football hooligans who will appear alongside the Thaksin/Potjaman photos and information on the same exact border check-point alert list.

[jumnien]

I noticed that Potjaman's arrest warrant didn't include her weight. How could they have issued such an incomplete document?

[hammered]

I noticed that Potjaman's arrest warrant didn't include her weight. How could they have issued such an incomplete document?

Im sure the plastering of these documents over the front of newspapaers has more to do with humiliating them and showing this very publically.

In the meantime as business returns to normal we now have a PPP full of the same old faces that have happily been running and ripping off Thailand for decades and shorn of those who initially set up the TRT to a man/woman if I am correct. Invasion of the body snatchers is complete. Now all that remains is to split it into two or more parties and get back to the good old days. If anyone believes a party controlled by Newin Chidchob is going to be a party better than one led by Thaksin they must be utterly delusional or just be part of the lets change nothing ever group. In the meantime the Dems seem to be able only to stare straight into the headlights while remaining stationary unless of course they are quite happy with the status quo too.

[Old Man River]

I noticed that Potjaman's arrest warrant didn't include her weight. How could they have issued such an incomplete document?

Im sure the plastering of these documents over the front of newspapaers has more to do with humiliating them and showing this very publically.

In the meantime as business returns to normal we now have a PPP full of the same old faces that have happily been running and ripping off Thailand for decades and shorn of those who initially set up the TRT to a man/woman if I am correct. Invasion of the body snatchers is complete. Now all that remains is to split it into two or more parties and get back to the good old days. If anyone believes a party controlled by Newin Chidchob is going to be a party better than one led by Thaksin they must be utterly delusional or just be part of the lets change nothing ever group. In the meantime the Dems seem to be able only to stare straight into the headlights while remaining stationary unless of course they are quite happy with the status quo too.

What you say is correct (from what I understand), but the question still remains about funding. Will Thaksin continue to fund Newin's new party (assuming a dissolution)? If so, how much will it cost him and if his money in Thailand is seized, how long can he last?

Matichon has surmised that funding would come from a social development fund and the BMA bus deal. Of course, now everyone will be watching those closely.

Funding will be key, especially if the PPP does break up as people suggest.

[Samuian]

Warrants issued for Thaksin, Pojaman

....edit....

Meanwhile, a lawyer for Thaksin, Wichit Plangsrikul, claimed the police move to distribute arrest warrants for the couple across the country could be deemed an abuse. "The police action was not suitable and might have broken the law because they deliberately defamed them. The police did not need to do that because Thaksin had said he and his family would live in the United Kingdom."

Wichit said Thaksin was not a felon yet because he had not been convicted by any court, so he did not believe the Attorney-General could take any move to extradite Thaksin back.

- The Nation / August 15, 2008

The arrogance and that they really think they get away with anything, oof these people makes me sick!

[Plus]

Pojamarn has until August 31 to appeal, and she probably needs to do that in person. But even if she sends in lawyers on her behalf it would undermine Thaksin's claim that he doesn't recongise Thai justice system.

He just couldn't go into exile like all normal people do, he needed to open his mouth and belittle his own country (or at least judiciary).

Thanong Kanthong in his opinion piece mentioned four former Thai leaders who accepted the deal on their exit and honored it - Pridi, Plaek, Thanom, and Suchinda.

Many posters here mention Suchinda having a nice life, but one thing he doesn't do - challenge the conditions on which he was asked to resign.

Thaksin, on the other hand, still talks like he a rebel waiting for comeback.

[Samuian]

.....edit... If anyone believes a party controlled by Newin Chidchob is going to be a party better than one led by Thaksin they must be utterly delusional ...edit...

Has anuone said this or did you mean: "Ahh well the victim has, besides the major one so many other little injuries, we may not touch any of them!" ?

...edit...

Matichon has surmised that funding would come from a social development fund and the BMA bus deal. Of course, now everyone will be watching those closely.

Funding will be key, especially if the PPP does break up as people suggest.

He will try everything possible, that can be taken for granted, but will he succeed another time - it doesn't look likely!

With the other problems, I think will be dealt step by step - one at a time!

For Samak they are going to "bundle" the cases, to save time...

"The Nation" reports that the People Power Party, Chart Thai, Matchima Thipataya and Puea Pandin parties might be dissolved.

And newly formed yes, old wine in new bottles we know the name of the game - but so do certainly others.. lets see- maybe they run out of accommodation in Bangkok Hilton?

Let's not play judges or be too early judgmental, let's see... this country doesn't struggle under it's political ruler ship since yesterday... the struggle is on for a long time...it lasts some 70 years already...

If only the majority of the rural voters would understand that their "heroes" are munching and gulping away THEIR Money, their roads, their infra stucture, their health care, their children's education... things would change rather fast..

Edited August 15, 2008 by Samuian