Toyota Dealer Disc Brake Upgrade For Fortuner/vigo

[Sakeopete]

Today while getting my wife's Yaris serviced I noticed the dealer offering 4 disc brakes plus rear conversion for 39000 Baht. I'm happy with my Fortuner's brakes but the added stopping power wouldn't be bag given the idiots on the road. Has anyone had them installed? If so did you notice an appreciable difference?

[TJAN]

Today while getting my wife's Yaris serviced I noticed the dealer offering 4 disc brakes plus rear conversion for 39000 Baht. I'm happy with my Fortuner's brakes but the added stopping power wouldn't be bag given the idiots on the road. Has anyone had them installed? If so did you notice an appreciable difference?

So we all know now you have 2 cars.

[Soutpeel]

Today while getting my wife's Yaris serviced I noticed the dealer offering 4 disc brakes plus rear conversion for 39000 Baht. I'm happy with my Fortuner's brakes but the added stopping power wouldn't be bag given the idiots on the road. Has anyone had them installed? If so did you notice an appreciable difference?

So we all know now you have 2 cars.

OK he has two cars...whats your point..???...I have two cars as well

[Pdaz]

I have two cars AND two motorbikes........

But back on topic.. I'd be interested in hearing about the brake upgrade cos I reckon the brakes on my Vigo are sh*te... even with the ABS... Any amount of hard use and they fade very quickly..

[Sakeopete]

Today while getting my wife's Yaris serviced I noticed the dealer offering 4 disc brakes plus rear conversion for 39000 Baht. I'm happy with my Fortuner's brakes but the added stopping power wouldn't be bag given the idiots on the road. Has anyone had them installed? If so did you notice an appreciable difference?

So we all know now you have 2 cars.

What's having 2 cars have to do with Fortuner brake upgrade?

[Sakeopete]

I have two cars AND two motorbikes........

But back on topic.. I'd be interested in hearing about the brake upgrade cos I reckon the brakes on my Vigo are sh*te... even with the ABS... Any amount of hard use and they fade very quickly..

I asked the service manager if the upgrade effects warranty and he said it doesn't and many people have been getting them added to new purchases. So I don't see a down side with them, it would be nice to hear from someone that has them thought. Also I seen them installed on a Fortuner at the dealer and the read discs have 2 sets of pots.

[solent01]

Today while getting my wife's Yaris serviced I noticed the dealer offering 4 disc brakes plus rear conversion for 39000 Baht. I'm happy with my Fortuner's brakes but the added stopping power wouldn't be bag given the idiots on the road. Has anyone had them installed? If so did you notice an appreciable difference?

So we all know now you have 2 cars.

Your point is? I own (or at least between my wife and I, four cars (one in the UK), and I'm looking at a fifth, plus two motorbikes, when Kwaka decides to import the Z series I will own three bikes)

[philipm]

hey guys, The Toyota upgrade brake kit,

is actually from RunStop, they also do OEM for Toyota and several other manufacturers,

never the less, I also sell these kits.

i assume the kit for 39,000K.

includes a 320mm rear rotor with twin single piston calipers, and the front is about the std size rotor but includes ventelated, slotted and cross drilled rotors.

this is the most basic step up, we have upsteps, big size front rotors up to 380mm, 2-8 piston calipers, and 350mm rear converisons. for larger then std rims...

i sell all these kits anyone intrested there is a full warrenty with it as with toyota.

[philipm]

btw i have two cars to, one in thailand one in australia.

i know people with 6cars, if you have the money then why not?

[initiala4]

disc brake > drum brakes.

[Sakeopete]

hey guys, The Toyota upgrade brake kit,

is actually from RunStop, they also do OEM for Toyota and several other manufacturers,

never the less, I also sell these kits.

i assume the kit for 39,000K.

includes a 320mm rear rotor with twin single piston calipers, and the front is about the std size rotor but includes ventelated, slotted and cross drilled rotors.

this is the most basic step up, we have upsteps, big size front rotors up to 380mm, 2-8 piston calipers, and 350mm rear converisons. for larger then std rims...

i sell all these kits anyone intrested there is a full warrenty with it as with toyota.

Thats exactly what they were Phil any idea what % braking power is gained compared to toyota's disc/drum standard?

[Sakeopete]

Today while getting my wife's Yaris serviced I noticed the dealer offering 4 disc brakes plus rear conversion for 39000 Baht. I'm happy with my Fortuner's brakes but the added stopping power wouldn't be bag given the idiots on the road. Has anyone had them installed? If so did you notice an appreciable difference?

So we all know now you have 2 cars.

LOL so much for your attempt to flame me.

[Gary A]

I am of the opinion that drum brakes on the back of pickups and SUV's are entirely adequate unless you are into track racing where brake fade is a consideration. It is a fact that 70 to 90 percent of your effective stopping power is on the front. Without ABS, the rear drum brakes would lock up before the front discs. Selling rear disc kits is a gimmick to part you from your money.

Do a little surfing and look for charts comparing stopping distances for rear discs to rear drums. If you have wasted money for rear disc brakes, you will no doubt be disappointed.

[angiud]

So, all the cars and Suvs with four disk brake are a waste of money? My old Volvo 245 had 2discs/2drums, the next (same) Volvo 240 had 4 discs. Do you khow who better stops??

I have a MU7 and somebody know if there is a 4 discs upgrade available?? Ilike to waste my money.

BTW I have only one car

[Gary A]

So, all the cars and Suvs with four disk brake are a waste of money? My old Volvo 245 had 2discs/2drums, the next (same) Volvo 240 had 4 discs. Do you khow who better stops??

I have a MU7 and somebody know if there is a 4 discs upgrade available?? Ilike to waste my money.

BTW I have only one car

If you want to stop faster, buy sticky tires. Are you aware that brake systems use a proportioning valve? That valve drops the pressure to the rear drum brakes so the drums don't lock up before the front discs. Brakes are always a compromise regardless of discs versus drums. If the rear is converted to discs, make SURE that the company furnishing the kit can show you stopping distance charts. Reputable companies will have charts. Using a cheap kit may very well make your vehicle's braking system dangerous.

ADDED - Don't get me wrong. Disc brakes are designed to dissipate the heat much faster than drum brakes and are better if heat is a problem. Drum brakes trap the heat and are not suitable for racing.

[angiud]

So, do you think upgrade my Suv with 2 more discs will be useless?

Sometime I have the feeling my car doesn't slow so quick I need and the only time I need to stop my car quckly, rear wheels start to jump (maybe effect of the abs?) and work less effective.

[Gary A]

So, do you think upgrade my Suv with 2 more discs will be useless?

Sometime I have the feeling my car doesn't slow so quick I need and the only time I need to stop my car quckly, rear wheels start to jump (maybe effect of the abs?) and work less effective.

If the ABS is chattering and making the rear wheels jump, then you certainly DON'T need more stopping power on the back wheels. So yes, I think it is a waste of money and maybe even dangerous unless the disc brake add on is balance engineered and factory approved. A good braking system is VERY high tech and changing part of it can easily do more harm than good. Tires and weight distribution make all the difference and weight distribution can't be changed. The brakes stop the wheels but the tires stop the vehicle.

ADDED - Dealer approved add ons are NOT necessarily factory approved add ons. I'd bet that those cheap add ons are not approved in Western countries.

If you ever rode a motorcycle, you already know that the back brake is nearly useless. Some sports cars have rear suspension systems that force the rear of the car down or at least stop it from raising during hard braking. SUV's and trucks don't have that. The front dips badly and the rear end raises.

[angiud]

You have convinced me!

Thanks

[philipm]

Sakeopete,

if you are just talking about the rear converison set only, at 330mm sized, its about 30% better then std. plus you do get cermaic break pads, they are a little on the noise side when cold, but when they warm up, they have such good fricition, stopping power is significantly better then std brake setups and std brake pads. there is also a 350mm sized converision for those running larger then 16" rims.

i have this kit in my car, i am so thankful having this product over oe, i actually feel confident braking at high speeds or when the std pads would have already faded, not to menation alot of stop and go traffic.

if you have the chance i would recomened upgrading the rear converision with the front, if funds dont claim it possible to buy a full new front converison, such as high performance 2-4-6piston calipers and 350-320mm slotted, crossdrilled, vented rotors, then atleast go for the front std sized rotor upgrade which is slightly larger then std but is slotted and crossdrilled for maximum heat despence, to keep braking in the optimal temp range.

Btw dont be fooled that this is a cheap brake rotor kit, these brake are of high quality they are ofcourse aclaimed by many iso, and have many machines using minimum labor. as i menationed earlier they supply std kits to O.E.M, so i would only be sure that there aftermarket highperformance range would only over exceed std braking components and performance. not to menation all kits have had many years in R&D and perfecting.

I would only imagen Toyota as an example, would not sell something that would offically be dangerous or not tested....

Is anyone intrested in these brake upgrades,

we have the avaliable for:

Vigo, Fortuner,

Triton, MU7,

Dmax, Colorado,

BT50, Pajero, Yaris, Jazz,

Civic, Accord, Camary

and many others, including custom setups to have a perfect setup everytime.

[philipm]

here is a simple front on pic of the orginal 330mm sized rear converison disk brake for 16" rims,

18" and larger we have 350mm converisons.

[dotcom]

What do you do for a hand brake?

[philipm]

hand brake works to as normal, as i said this is an engieered kit, that works well.

hand brake at first is a bit numb, but after getting smoothing down the pads to the rotor it only get better.

plus there are two sets, one is hand brake activates both piston calipers or just one for e-brake and one for normal brake.

this is more used for drifting and those sorts but hey if you want strong hand brake, its all in the setup.

[peterd1961]

Sakeopete,

if you are just talking about the rear converison set only, at 330mm sized, its about 30% better then std. plus you do get cermaic break pads, they are a little on the noise side when cold, but when they warm up, they have such good fricition, stopping power is significantly better then std brake setups and std brake pads. there is also a 350mm sized converision for those running larger then 16" rims.

i have this kit in my car, i am so thankful having this product over oe, i actually feel confident braking at high speeds or when the std pads would have already faded, not to menation alot of stop and go traffic.

if you have the chance i would recomened upgrading the rear converision with the front, if funds dont claim it possible to buy a full new front converison, such as high performance 2-4-6piston calipers and 350-320mm slotted, crossdrilled, vented rotors, then atleast go for the front std sized rotor upgrade which is slightly larger then std but is slotted and crossdrilled for maximum heat despence, to keep braking in the optimal temp range.

Btw dont be fooled that this is a cheap brake rotor kit, these brake are of high quality they are ofcourse aclaimed by many iso, and have many machines using minimum labor. as i menationed earlier they supply std kits to O.E.M, so i would only be sure that there aftermarket highperformance range would only over exceed std braking components and performance. not to menation all kits have had many years in R&D and perfecting.

I would only imagen Toyota as an example, would not sell something that would offically be dangerous or not tested....

Is anyone intrested in these brake upgrades,

we have the avaliable for:

Vigo, Fortuner,

Triton, MU7,

Dmax, Colorado,

BT50, Pajero, Yaris, Jazz,

Civic, Accord, Camary

and many others, including custom setups to have a perfect setup everytime.

Hi Phillip,

What is the price for a vigo for this set?

Regards Peter

[culicine]

here is a simple front on pic of the orginal 330mm sized rear converison disk brake for 16" rims,

18" and larger we have 350mm converisons.

Phil, thse are the runstyop rotors. Are they using the OEM pads? I would have thought that changing out the calipers too would help. One thing that stops me changing to a big brake kit in my civic is that I don't think they would work as well under normal stop and start driving conditions, and gentle driving when the brakes don;t get so hot. Isn't stopping distance actually increased in these circumstances? But I agree with other posters that ppl should focus more on the tires, and then on the brakes. If you abs kicks in all the time - then the tyres need looking at first. Big brakes will just worsen the problem.

[philipm]

hey guys,

Peterd, the set for the vigo, do you have std rims? 16" and front converison do you just want the rotors upgrades and the rear converison kit?

Culicine, actually runstop come with there own brake pads, they have cermaic brake pads, they are actually very good for stop and go traffic and even in normal driving conditions. they well exceed std brake setup feel and performance even in normal driving conditions, this is due to the fact that these are not the big size brake kits the heat generated is more than enough to get the brakes working hard.

the cermaic brake pads, actually are ment for the street, they as i menationed earlier are the manufacture for brakes for toyota and what not, so they understand the brake perfroamcne needs for street cars, whilest still enhancing its drivability.

i have also drove a fortuner with a 8piston big brake set, and holly crap they stop so well even when cold, i was so supprised, untill i realised and found out about their mixture of there brake pad allows for heat to generate quickly for brake to work efficiently, yet despenses majority of the heat for supior brake performance. not to menation the sure fact that you have a larger rotor surface and better, bigger brake friction material= better brakeing.

[Pdaz]

So, do you think upgrade my Suv with 2 more discs will be useless?

Sometime I have the feeling my car doesn't slow so quick I need and the only time I need to stop my car quckly, rear wheels start to jump (maybe effect of the abs?) and work less effective.

If the ABS is chattering and making the rear wheels jump, then you certainly DON'T need more stopping power on the back wheels. So yes, I think it is a waste of money and maybe even dangerous unless the disc brake add on is balance engineered and factory approved. A good braking system is VERY high tech and changing part of it can easily do more harm than good. Tires and weight distribution make all the difference and weight distribution can't be changed. The brakes stop the wheels but the tires stop the vehicle.

ADDED - Dealer approved add ons are NOT necessarily factory approved add ons. I'd bet that those cheap add ons are not approved in Western countries.

If you ever rode a motorcycle, you already know that the back brake is nearly useless. Some sports cars have rear suspension systems that force the rear of the car down or at least stop it from raising during hard braking. SUV's and trucks don't have that. The front dips badly and the rear end raises.

Well I'd say it's not just about stopping distances.. That may provide an indication to stopping 'power' in a single event. However brake fade and brake 'feel' are something that a 'disc's all round' setup would improve no end... Yes most of the braking is done by the front - due to weight transfer (even more so in a pick-up which has a huge front end weight bias) But in stop start braking situations and in fast road driving disc's are far superior. My truck (Vigo) suffers badly with brake fade and it doen't need hrs of "racing'' use for it show up.. In fact braking heavily once is enough for me to feel sponginess in the pedal. If I brake hard ( not enough for the ABS to kick in ) then brake again to slow to a medium speed 'fade' is very noticable.. Maybe I could change the pad material or upgrade to a larger disc at the front.. or add disc's to the rear.. I can't agree that they are a waste of money (unless you only drive at granny speeds) because four wheel disc braking systems are pretty much the norm now.. Years back rear wheel discs were only for exotic sports cars but now seen as a much better option than drums..

As for bikes.. well yes if you need to stop in a hurry the back brake (disc) on its own is crap.. But used in conjunction with the front it will stop you quicker and stablise the bike much better than only using the front. Not to mention that 'draggin' the back brake is the best way to control a bike at low speeds and is much smoother than using the front brake..

[philipm]

guy i have all the prices on me, so just tell me what you want done and i can qoute you for your intrested brake set or pc.

[philipm]

hey Gents,

i can also do the special deal for the fortuner and any other pickup,

includes rear disk brake converison and front large size brake rotors, vented, slotted and or crossdrilled.

39,900Bhat.

For you gents with the Jazz or Yaris, i have a very special deal for you,

get the full rear brake converison, and free upsize front rotors! size depends on your wheels, we will give you the largest size that fits in your rims, weather 14-18", this special set is only B20,000.

any of you gents intrested in these options??

brakeing performance is increased by atleast 30%.

much better the std braking!!!

[philipm]

for those wanting more than that, we have a full 6pot caliper with 355mm rotors for 18" up rims to. braking performance, 85% better braking.

we have many custom sizes and applications.

[philipm]

anyone intrested? check the last post on page 1, for prices. and specail deals...