Nissan Skyline Gtr Engine

[PattayaTerrier]

Anyone know a good source for a quality used RB26DETT engine pattaya to bangkok area?

[philipm]

there is 2 or 3 down in bangna trat.

[PattayaTerrier]

there is 2 or 3 down in bangna trat.

I only know a Bangna up near to Bangkok and not one in Trat?

Do you have any contact details?

Any one have a clue what the average price of this unit normally is?

[philipm]

the area is called chun khong, (though its spelt different)

beside that,

do you need the 4wd transmission to?

i am not sure if they would sell it with or without it, depends on what it comes with.

the price of gtr rb26dett is approx 120-170k mark. depending on condition and transmission etc.

its alot cheaper to buy a 1jz or 2jz for easily hlaf the price.

What car or truck do you want to put it in? (reall skyline? cefiro, sx???? etc)

[PattayaTerrier]

the area is called chun khong, (though its spelt different)

beside that,

do you need the 4wd transmission to?

i am not sure if they would sell it with or without it, depends on what it comes with.

the price of gtr rb26dett is approx 120-170k mark. depending on condition and transmission etc.

its alot cheaper to buy a 1jz or 2jz for easily hlaf the price.

What car or truck do you want to put it in? (reall skyline? cefiro, sx???? etc)

I am thinking of putting it into Westfeild.

Good suggestion with the 2jz would be just as suitable, but I dont think you can get quite as much power from the toyota unit I may be wrong.

Do you know what is the maximum out-put got from one of these units?

I was hoping for about 600hp from the nissan after a few simple modifications to the turbo, and up to 1,300hp with some serious modifications.

The Westfeild only weights 400kgs giving it similar power to weight ratio as an F1 car a ratio of between 1500-3,250 hp per ton even more than modern F1s more like the old skool BMW 1.5L turbos.

I may even try to fabricate some mini-skirts to keep that thing stuck to the track, I going to need a lot of down force and some fat tyres.

I don't think the toyota unit will be that far behind if at all in power and probably cheaper to service.

But I am going for outright mental performance.

As for the gear box I can just about put anyone I want just have to change the bell housing, going to do some research this is a very light car, I think the 2jz with supra gear box would be okay and maybe the simplest cheapest option.

Where is Chun Khong, Bangna or Trat?

And do you know what the average cost is for the jz2 gte with gear box?

[hulahula85]

You know if you put either of those heavy-a$$ iron-block inlines in a westfield it's gonna throw off the weight distribution right? (Not to mention the engine is tall, it might not even fit unless you upgrade to an EXPENSIVE dry sump oiling system)

2JZ will need the turbos swapped (or single conversion), the fuel system upgraded, and it'll need some sort of standalone (Greddy E-Manage or AEM EMS). The RB will need even more work done, as it's smaller in displacement and doesn't hold as much power as the stock 2JZ block.

Just to give you an idea, Suicide Desert Turbo here in Dubai usually charges around $50k-$60k USD for an 850 hp single turbo RB26 with a built lower end and huge turbo.

2JZ is known for being able to hold up to 720 hp on the stock bottom end (don't expect years of reliability though).

Your biggest problem will be getting the power to the ground. 600 hp is insane for acceleration but it won't matter if you don't have enough weight sitting over the rear tires, even if they're super slick GGG compound race tires.

Side skirts? You'll need a full front diffuser and large surface diameter rear wing to make enough downforce to keep the car on the track/road.

Sure it's an insane idea but using the big Inline 6's to make power in a westfield is like using an 18 liter caterpillar semi-truck engine in a ford pickup just because you want more power.

A Honda S2000 with a 2JZ swap and 780 hp is useless except for cool smoky burnouts and pitiful attempts at drifting. The Westfield's gonna be worse hahaha why do you think they use Hayabusa engines in them? Highest horsepower with the lowest weight.

You want all that horsepower, get westfield's Megabusa Turbo engine. 550 bhp from that little 1.4 liter bike engine and still less weight then a supra engine block

Not to discourage you or anything, but that's why owners of Ultralyte S2K's, Lotus Super 7's, Caterham R500's, Ariel Atom's, and KTM X-Bows's, ALL have light, high hp/liter engines.

The only reason Supras and Skylines do so well in drag races is because supras are tanks and have enough weight over the rear slicks, and skylines have AWD.

But seriously, not to discourage, but you're referring to an engine swap that's like putting a cadillac 500CI engine in a Mazda Miata, with an 80/20 weight distribution, forget taking it to the track.

[PattayaTerrier]

You know if you put either of those heavy-a$$ iron-block inlines in a westfield it's gonna throw off the weight distribution right? (Not to mention the engine is tall, it might not even fit unless you upgrade to an EXPENSIVE dry sump oiling system)

2JZ will need the turbos swapped (or single conversion), the fuel system upgraded, and it'll need some sort of standalone (Greddy E-Manage or AEM EMS). The RB will need even more work done, as it's smaller in displacement and doesn't hold as much power as the stock 2JZ block.

Just to give you an idea, Suicide Desert Turbo here in Dubai usually charges around $50k-$60k USD for an 850 hp single turbo RB26 with a built lower end and huge turbo.

2JZ is known for being able to hold up to 720 hp on the stock bottom end (don't expect years of reliability though).

Your biggest problem will be getting the power to the ground. 600 hp is insane for acceleration but it won't matter if you don't have enough weight sitting over the rear tires, even if they're super slick GGG compound race tires.

Side skirts? You'll need a full front diffuser and large surface diameter rear wing to make enough downforce to keep the car on the track/road.

Sure it's an insane idea but using the big Inline 6's to make power in a westfield is like using an 18 liter caterpillar semi-truck engine in a ford pickup just because you want more power.

A Honda S2000 with a 2JZ swap and 780 hp is useless except for cool smoky burnouts and pitiful attempts at drifting. The Westfield's gonna be worse hahaha why do you think they use Hayabusa engines in them? Highest horsepower with the lowest weight.

You want all that horsepower, get westfield's Megabusa Turbo engine. 550 bhp from that little 1.4 liter bike engine and still less weight then a supra engine block

Not to discourage you or anything, but that's why owners of Ultralyte S2K's, Lotus Super 7's, Caterham R500's, Ariel Atom's, and KTM X-Bows's, ALL have light, high hp/liter engines.

The only reason Supras and Skylines do so well in drag races is because supras are tanks and have enough weight over the rear slicks, and skylines have AWD.

But seriously, not to discourage, but you're referring to an engine swap that's like putting a cadillac 500CI engine in a Mazda Miata, with an 80/20 weight distribution, forget taking it to the track.

Westfield brought out the SEight that takes up to a 5L V8 years ago and Cheterham have a similar model.

Personally I like Strait 6s they are nice and smooth with plenty of clout, I had even considered a V8 UZ1 they are cheaper may even got with one except the engine gear box combo from the supra is easy to find and cheap to buy and service.

Any how I was looking for reliable sources to buy a engine and not an essay telling how you can not imagine how to handle the power.

Skirts work so do spoilers, so do wide tires did you ever see F1?. I personally am looking forward to a very quick and inexpensive ride.

And just what is the cost of a hyabusa turbo?

I had no idea they got 550hp, I bet that will be revving the piss out of it and it wont be too reliable.

Depends on the cost but that may be an option, on second thoughts I want to drive it on the road too so I want a smooth motor not a pumped up revvy 4 pot piss banger, if you like them so much why don't you buy a megabusa and I'll give you a race?

In the mean time do you know any good source for buying quality used import engine in the Pattaya to Bangkok area?

[philipm]

first of the 2jz has actually a stronger std block then the gtr's block, and also due to its extra 400cc displacement, it generates more power and more torque for the exact same modifications done to lets say a gtr engine.

a std 2jz is good for 600Hp without internal modifications, though i wouldnt trust the std clutch to handle that amount of power.

sure the 2jz is alot cheaper, alot more parts, easily serviced, and reliable, not to menation there are alot around.

if i had a pick of a rb26 and a 2jz i would go rb just for the fact its an gtr engine, but for practical use and as a powerplant the 2jz is the way to go.,

plus with rear wheel drive, its transmission is alot lighter then a gtrs.

Now about the issue that you want to put this thing into a light ass car gives respect haha, but but to a reason.

now if you 400kg car, power to weight is defentially not much of an issue, and going for huge power with alot of extra weight to some point defeats the purpose.

instead i would recommend something mildly powerful no more than 500HP with tunes and mods. you will already being getting insane acceleration.

why not go for a SR20det motor, the siliva 4cilinder turbocharged....they can make 400hp-500hp when modified. plus they are alottttt lighter then the big heavy weights.

500hp 400kg, thats still like 1200hp per ton. and 2100hp or so per 1888kg which is what the bugatti weights and only has 1001hp.

plus with the lighter weight it can be very nimble and easy to throw around, not to menation you will have plently of power to go side ways and if suspensions and brakes is modified to match, you will have one evil track machine!.

if you are really intrested doing this, i can help out.

[philipm]

tyres, haha i got contacts for drag slicks. but otherwise you will have to go 90% contact all the way, n1 street dot racing tyres, with like 18"rims wide ass displacment, like 300-330. shit man can i drive it haha.

[PattayaTerrier]

tyres, haha i got contacts for drag slicks. but otherwise you will have to go 90% contact all the way, n1 street dot racing tyres, with like 18"rims wide ass displacment, like 300-330. shit man can i drive it haha.

330s minimum

I don't want a poxy 4 pot, I want at least S6, V6 or V8 I do not need any lessons in physics or driving I want minimum 600 hp in a Westfeild and let me worry about keeping it on the track/road. I called Westfeilds Thai office today and the basic kit body and chassis, struts etc is only 360,000. Brakes, springs, wheels etc you have to source locally. I told them my intention of putting a 2jz gte in one and they said it would go in no problem in the SEight chasis and may fit the regular frame I would have just have to mesure it.

They told me the weight is more like 600kg not 400kg that is for a super-light track only version

Chaterham have a 2.4L V8 with 550hp on the market so what is all this pooffy BS it will work.

I would appreciate any useful help or advice on where to source parts and find good mechanics.

I have a bar and dive shop in Pattaya, on Beach Road at the corner of Central Road in front of what was the Nova Lodge Hotel now the Centera Beach Hotel.

You are as is everyone welcome to pop down for a pint of beer.

[BSJ]

I had a test drive of a Caterham with a 4 pot turbo engine putting out 260hp and that was a wild ride!

So I got to ask you....."Are you insane?"

[PattayaTerrier]

I had a test drive of a Caterham with a 4 pot turbo engine putting out 260hp and that was a wild ride!

So I got to ask you....."Are you insane?"

Show me a sane man that can be use for a yard stick and then judge my sanity.

[philipm]

ok you know what you want.

i will help you out.

when are you coming down?

2jz it is, or 1uv (v8), or hel_l just get a 3jz(they are (2jz bottom with 1jz top, or 1jz bottom 2jz top) rated at approx 450=500 out of the box and then change to twin or single turbo, either two IHI Rx6 would be absolutly insane. it will be good for 1000hp for twin set up of the turbos.

a full ballbearing race bread turbo.

its currently used in the supercar thailand evo though only running a single turbo, 2.2bar making 550whp.

i know a few garages that make a few 1000+hp monsters.

and i know top 2 tuners in thailand. if that helps.

yup yup and i know a import dealer of automotive performance parts from the usa, uk and australia if that helps.

[philipm]

oh and i know a complete custom brake performance factory that make 2-8pot aliminum forged calipers and over 380mm rotors, all high performance. etc etc.

[PattayaTerrier]

oh and i know a complete custom brake performance factory that make 2-8pot aliminum forged calipers and over 380mm rotors, all high performance. etc etc.

I'l be needing those 8 pot brakes, sounds like you're the man with the contacts.

BTW what do you mean by when are you coming down do you think I am on something?

I am in the fantasizing phase now, I am going to take a Westfeild with a poxy ford duratech 2L 4 pot turbo for a spin around bira race circuit next week.

I'll let you know how it goes.

[philipm]

i understand you completely,

and no i wasnt sauing when are you coming down, of your high. haha

i ment when you coming down to bangkok so i can take you around and help you out with this project.

i am the first to take a triton automatic to the extream mods i have done, so i feel you mate.

honestly if i had the cash i would do similar.

i also know of a person who can modify the rear wheel drive 2jz transmission into a 4wd....for a price (rather reasonable to).

this will be a very attractive option for a track beast.

Bira circuit nice, i am doing my racing license class C over there in next month or two.

[PattayaTerrier]

ok you know what you want.

i will help you out.

when are you coming down?

2jz it is, or 1uv (v8), or hel_l just get a 3jz(they are (2jz bottom with 1jz top, or 1jz bottom 2jz top) rated at approx 450=500 out of the box and then change to twin or single turbo, either two IHI Rx6 would be absolutly insane. it will be good for 1000hp for twin set up of the turbos.

a full ballbearing race bread turbo.

its currently used in the supercar thailand evo though only running a single turbo, 2.2bar making 550whp.

i know a few garages that make a few 1000+hp monsters.

and i know top 2 tuners in thailand. if that helps.

yup yup and i know a import dealer of automotive performance parts from the usa, uk and australia if that helps.

How much would a full blown 3JZ cost?

1,000 hp would be outrageous in a 600 kg car.

It's funny how some people do not seem to understand you do not have to open throttle up completely when you pull away and it is possible to deliver the power under proper control like you do on a super-bike.

Do you know any one that makes spoilers this is going to need some serious down force, I can see power wheelies in 2nd and maybe even 3rd gear keeping the nose down will be pretty important.

BTW Where are you located?

[philipm]

hey mate,

a 3jz is close to the 150-200k mark. but its a huge platform to work with.

What sort of purpose do you want it for? drag or circuit?

drag i recommend a 2jz bottom with a 1jz top single large turbo. devlier killer topend.

for circuit, a 1jz bottom with a 2jz top and twin turbo, this will deliver ferious acceleration mid to high range.

Now you dont need 1000hp, the rx6 turbo each are like 50-60k, so you dont need that option. you can always go for a greddy td06-20g twin, they are rated at 450hp 675cfm, two can easily produce 800whp. and plus they are about half the price 2nd hand. about 25-27k.

i actually have one on me right now.

as for the spolier, i know place in bangna trat that makes fiber body kits, i am sure they can make a wing if you pay the right amount.

and plus there is also carbon fiber molders so if you want a carbon fiber wing that can be organised to for the right amount.

I actually modify turbo diesel for a living, but have alot of friends and still am in the petrol scene, alot pushing very high hp no's.

i live in bangkok, around Asoke area.

[PattayaTerrier]

i understand you completely,

and no i wasnt sauing when are you coming down, of your high. haha

i ment when you coming down to bangkok so i can take you around and help you out with this project.

i am the first to take a triton automatic to the extream mods i have done, so i feel you mate.

honestly if i had the cash i would do similar.

i also know of a person who can modify the rear wheel drive 2jz transmission into a 4wd....for a price (rather reasonable to).

this will be a very attractive option for a track beast.

Bira circuit nice, i am doing my racing license class C over there in next month or two.

Can you give me some details on racing class licenses I would like to get one what does it involve?

[PattayaTerrier]

hey mate,

a 3jz is close to the 150-200k mark. but its a huge platform to work with.

What sort of purpose do you want it for? drag or circuit?

drag i recommend a 2jz bottom with a 1jz top single large turbo. devlier killer topend.

for circuit, a 1jz bottom with a 2jz top and twin turbo, this will deliver ferious acceleration mid to high range.

Now you dont need 1000hp, the rx6 turbo each are like 50-60k, so you dont need that option. you can always go for a greddy td06-20g twin, they are rated at 450hp 675cfm, two can easily produce 800whp. and plus they are about half the price 2nd hand. about 25-27k.

i actually have one on me right now.

as for the spolier, i know place in bangna trat that makes fiber body kits, i am sure they can make a wing if you pay the right amount.

and plus there is also carbon fiber molders so if you want a carbon fiber wing that can be organised to for the right amount.

I actually modify turbo diesel for a living, but have alot of friends and still am in the petrol scene, alot pushing very high hp no's.

i live in bangkok, around Asoke area.

I am going to use it on the road most of the time but I want to have an absolute monster I think 600 hp will be enough to start with get used to that then blow it up to the max, I do also want to start going to the track and get into racing I will probably need to get a license maybe we could meet up at Bira next time you are there and you can clue me in?

[philipm]

hey mate,

sure no problem, i am sure 600hp with 600kg, it will get 1000hp per ton.

as for the racing licenses class c,

(there is a super car thailand special course,

basicly its runs for 3-4days we stay at the Bira circuit area,

and for a few days they train you with a rather underpowered car but fully stripped out,

and at the end days, you will have to complete a couple of laps of Bira circuit,

if you get a good time, you pass the course and claim your class C license,

and you can start entrying class races officially etc etc and if you are good enough you can get sponsered.

the course is about 36k including hotel etc, only 6-7 people a month.

if you like i can organise this for you. or if you like better i can organise it so you and i can go at the same time,

that way we can further discuss the project you want to do, plus we can ask some pro advice on some tips when creating a huge power to weight track killer.

I have slight experince with full track driving and drag racing, so i am really into thing whole project and the racing.

[timi2546]

there is 2 or 3 down in bangna trat.

WILD THINGS U R PLANNING GREAT, I AM INTERESTED !

try between

chulalongkorn 22 rama IV

area, not far from mrt-sam yan / station

full of parts, second hand and new.

i have lost a map for that area,

will add till find.

tell us how project is going on.!

rock !

timi

[PattayaTerrier]

hey mate,

sure no problem, i am sure 600hp with 600kg, it will get 1000hp per ton.

as for the racing licenses class c,

(there is a super car thailand special course,

basicly its runs for 3-4days we stay at the Bira circuit area,

and for a few days they train you with a rather underpowered car but fully stripped out,

and at the end days, you will have to complete a couple of laps of Bira circuit,

if you get a good time, you pass the course and claim your class C license,

and you can start entrying class races officially etc etc and if you are good enough you can get sponsered.

the course is about 36k including hotel etc, only 6-7 people a month.

if you like i can organise this for you. or if you like better i can organise it so you and i can go at the same time,

that way we can further discuss the project you want to do, plus we can ask some pro advice on some tips when creating a huge power to weight track killer.

I have slight experince with full track driving and drag racing, so i am really into thing whole project and the racing.

I am interested in taking the driving course but I wont need the hotel as I live about 10 minutes from Bira Circuit, and why not do it at the same time?

PM you phone number and I will call you.

[hulahula85]

Westfield brought out the SEight that takes up to a 5L V8 years ago and Cheterham have a similar model.

Personally I like Strait 6s they are nice and smooth with plenty of clout, I had even considered a V8 UZ1 they are cheaper may even got with one except the engine gear box combo from the supra is easy to find and cheap to buy and service.

Any how I was looking for reliable sources to buy a engine and not an essay telling how you can not imagine how to handle the power.

Skirts work so do spoilers, so do wide tires did you ever see F1?. I personally am looking forward to a very quick and inexpensive ride.

And just what is the cost of a hyabusa turbo?

I had no idea they got 550hp, I bet that will be revving the piss out of it and it wont be too reliable.

Depends on the cost but that may be an option, on second thoughts I want to drive it on the road too so I want a smooth motor not a pumped up revvy 4 pot piss banger, if you like them so much why don't you buy a megabusa and I'll give you a race?

In the mean time do you know any good source for buying quality used import engine in the Pattaya to Bangkok area?

Whoa man i'm not trying to put you off on it. Yes i'm familiar with Formula 1...considering I work for Mubadala Ferrari in Abu Dhabi.

I've been building Supras for the last 9 years, all for drag racing, so I know just a little about the 2JZ.

So you want spoilers, front canards, and skirts to help with downforce, and they'll work great on the track, but if you're street driving it i'd just be worried about another thing that could crack off on Thailand's wonderful roads

The Caterham RST-V8? 2.0 L with 340 hp that weighs only 163 pounds

1uzfe = 450 lbs

2jzgte = 594 lbs

I'm just saying it's a weird idea, i'm not trying to put you down or criticize your choices.

Don't get so offensive whenever someone has an opinion or tries trolling you.

I race in the Redline Challenge in Dubai, and I can say from experience, get some real track time down first before you go all out and build an engine with race slicks and some seats. I've seen it too many times here when some rich local will buy a RUF or Gemballa Porsche and take it to the track, only to be beaten around every corner by a little Renault Clio Williamsport with a good driver and some decent rubber. It gets bad when they push their cars beyond their driving capabilities, and the next day there's a brand new RUF-sport engine and drivetrain for sale in the local classifieds.

Sorry I don't make it to Thailand often enough to know about any engine importing shops, i just have a couple motorcycles at my condo like everyone else

[hansgti]

bagna trat is the elevated highway into Bangkok from chonburi, its about 45 k long, i would be suprised if you havnt driven on it at some point of your 7 yrs here, its not in trad ?, its just outside of Babgkok.

The cheng gonn is a big area that houses around 200 business's importing secondhand parts from japan, the parts are to numerous to mention 360 diggers to wheel spacers and everything in between.

Its on the lower main road under the elevated section.

You can also try patumwan behind MBK center there is a cheng gon there as well, but bangna is better.

Pm or leave a number if you want to go there sure 100% , i go there quite often buying bits to modify my MK 1 escorts.

The 2jz engine is plentiful here, its also good for 1200bhp and a little more, turbo, nos and high octane fuel.

This is on a standard bottom end using ARP bolts.

I have a good friend who is the record holder for drag racing, 7s for the 1/4 mile here in thailand and he knows a thing or 2 about this engine.

If you have the time , take a visit to Bangkok drag avenue, the garage is there, you can see some built 2jzs and talk engines with him, his english is very good.

Also all the contacts you need can be found by shooting some pool or snooker at the bar there.

Si

[LivinLOS]

I am going to use it on the road most of the time

How will you get registration, type approval and plates ??

Cant see the Soc of Thai engineers passing this project.

Kit cars here are not as easy as just donor + built = plates.

[PattayaTerrier]

bagna trat is the elevated highway into Bangkok from chonburi, its about 45 k long, i would be suprised if you havnt driven on it at some point of your 7 yrs here, its not in trad ?, its just outside of Babgkok.

The cheng gonn is a big area that houses around 200 business's importing secondhand parts from japan, the parts are to numerous to mention 360 diggers to wheel spacers and everything in between.

Its on the lower main road under the elevated section.

You can also try patumwan behind MBK center there is a cheng gon there as well, but bangna is better.

Pm or leave a number if you want to go there sure 100% , i go there quite often buying bits to modify my MK 1 escorts.

The 2jz engine is plentiful here, its also good for 1200bhp and a little more, turbo, nos and high octane fuel.

This is on a standard bottom end using ARP bolts.

I have a good friend who is the record holder for drag racing, 7s for the 1/4 mile here in thailand and he knows a thing or 2 about this engine.

If you have the time , take a visit to Bangkok drag avenue, the garage is there, you can see some built 2jzs and talk engines with him, his english is very good.

Also all the contacts you need can be found by shooting some pool or snooker at the bar there.

Si

Hey thanks alot for that info, I was not sure if it was Bangna or Trat quite a few miles apart!

I always have referred to that road as the 34 or elevated Bangkok expressway, I never heard it called Trad before???

You one of the few poster that actually seem have read my post, instead of trying act out the racing guru with a load of pointless unwanted advice and information.

Cheers.

[PattayaTerrier]

I am going to use it on the road most of the time

How will you get registration, type approval and plates ??

Cant see the Soc of Thai engineers passing this project.

Kit cars here are not as easy as just donor + built = plates.

Would you say is superior you knowledge of registering vehicles in Thailand or your knowledge of 2 stokes engines

[Tywais]

Posts flaming members and their responses have been removed. Please keep it civil guys.

[philipm]

wow, bro's come on, lets keep it civil.

we are talking about modifications, everyone has there opinions,

but we are not here to say what is wronge or right,

but just to help out.....

pattayaterrier, have you decided to go for the 2jz?

i was just thinking do you want your project to be rear wheel driven or at all 4wheels?

if you want fulltime 4wd, i was thinking of the Mitsubishi gto motor, a 3.5L v6 twin turbo, produces around 300-320hp stock.

comes with full time 4wd. its rather heavy engine and tranmission etc, but i think for the track it would be better if you dont really want to exceed 500-600hp. at the same time, due to the heavier tranmission and drive train, it should help the distrubution of weight around the westfeild, thus making it achieve a closer 50/50 weight ratio.