Good docu on the (ab)use of the media by the ministry of propaganda.

Please watch all parts, it is only a bit over 1.5 hour. Hopefully after seeing this it will switch on the light bulb in the upper chamber of those that have not yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egcTynu6sBk

Does anyone believe anything that John Pilger says about anything?

90 minutes? Alex, I think you're asking a lot of people.

Well obviously you have not watched the docu.

I wonder why.....

Perhaps a 30sec summary on Fox News would be more to the liking of some of us.....

Does anyone believe anything that John Pilger says about anything?

Ostriches (we infer) believe that their enemies can not see them if they bury their head in the sand.

An ostrich is not a very intelligent animal.

An Ostrich would indeed make a good symbol for those on the far left. Extremists who constantly try to justify terrorism and make excuses for rogue nations attempting to develop nuclear weapons have their heads buried somewhere in their nether regions for sure.

Interesting.

Anyway for those interested, in short it proves that most if not all of the hype up surrounding the occupations (and some other events)are indeed fabricated and false. One of the persons that at that time was was part of spreading the military propaganda admitted he felt ashamed when talking about it. John Pilger is a highly respected investigative journalist and points out that journalist must always question the governments statements, no matter what.

If there are lies being told in this docu then please point them out.

:jap:

John Pilger is a highly respected investigative journalist...

:lol:

If there are lies being told in this docu then please point them out.

Wouldn't one would have to waste one and a half hours watching John Pilger to do that.

John Pilger is a highly respected investigative journalist...

:lol:

If there are lies being told in this docu then please point them out.

Wouldn't one would have to waste one and a half hours watching John Pilger to do that.

What is it with some? Afraid to realize you have been wrong?

John Pilger is a highly respected investigative journalist...

:lol:

Honours and awards

Sydney Peace Prize

Pilger has received human rights and journalism awards, including the Richard Dimbleby Award for factual reporting at the 1990 BAFTA Awards, as well as honorary doctorates. He was awarded the Sydney Peace Prize at a ceremony at the Sydney Opera House in November 2009. The jury’s citation reads as follows: "For work as an author, film-maker and journalist as well as for courage as a foreign and war correspondent in enabling the voices of the powerless to be heard. For commitment to peace with justice by exposing and holding governments to account for human rights abuses and for fearless challenges to censorship in any form."^[24]

Awards include:

• Descriptive Writer of the Year (1966)
• Reporter of the Year (1967)
• Journalist of the Year (1967)
• International Reporter of the Year (1970)
• News Reporter of the Year (1974)
• Campaigning Journalist of the Year (1977)
• Journalist of the Year(1979)
• UN Media Peace Prize, Australia (1979 – 80)
• UN Media Peace Prize and Gold Medal, Australia (1980 – 81)
• TV Times Readers' Award (1979)
• United Kingdom Academy Award (1990)
• The George Foster Peabody Award, USA (1990)
• American Television Academy Award ('Emmy') (1991)
• British Academy of Film and Television Arts – The Richard Dimbleby Award (1991)
• Reporters Sans Frontiers Award, France (1990)
• International de Television Geneve Award (1995)
• The Monismanien Prize, Sweden (2001)
• The Sophie Prize for Human Rights, Norway (2003)
• EMMA Media Personality of the Year (2003)
• Royal Television Society – Best British Documentary for Stealing a Nation (2004)
• One World Media Awards - TV Documentary Award for his ITV1 film The War on Democracy, on the role of Washington in Latin American politics. (2008)^[25]
• Sydney Peace Prize, Australia (2009)^[26]

Degrees and honorary degrees:

• Hon. D. Litt. (Staffordshire)
• D. Phil. (Dublin City)
• D. Arts (Oxford Brooks and Kingston)
• D. Arts (University of Lincoln)
• D. Arts (Rhodes University, South Africa)
• Hon. LL.D. (St Andrews)
• DUniv (Open University, UK)
• Edward Wilson Fellow, Deakin University (Australia)
• Visiting Professor, Cornell University, USA

The right have stated John Pilger is a liar. How much more proof do you need?

How dare you use bullshit prizes from lefty organisations to try to prove this man has any honesty or integrity at all.

Pilger has received human rights and journalism awards...

all irrelevant! the resident negators of truth will call him sleazy, financed by islamist and anti-U.S. terrorists, a threat to world peace and national security seconding Bill O'Reilly, Ph.D. stup. and Sarah Palin, Ph.D. dumb.

Perhaps a 30sec summary on Fox News would be more to the liking of some of us.....

So have you watched the full 90 minute video? I highly doubt it.

I have movies on my hard drive that I've downloaded because I WANT to watch them and still haven't gotten around to it. Some conspiracy nut video won't make it on that list anytime soon unless its produced by Victoria's Secret models.

The right have stated John Pilger is a liar. How much more proof do you need?

How dare you use bullshit prizes from lefty organisations to try to prove this man has any honesty or integrity at all.

What marks journalists for criticism like this is their relative rarity these days. America used to have a great tradition of investigative journalism from its "Fourth Estate" and much of that journalism led to the education and social advancement of the society as a whole. Sadly in these days of corporate media, where compensations for journalists are tied to stock prices and options vesting, most "journalists" have been co-opted as unpretty truths are bad for business and their pay packet.

Perhaps a 30sec summary on Fox News would be more to the liking of some of us.....

So have you watched the full 90 minute video? I highly doubt it.

I have movies on my hard drive that I've downloaded because I WANT to watch them and still haven't gotten around to it. Some conspiracy nut video won't make it on that list anytime soon unless its produced by Victoria's Secret models.

I didn't watch the one which is the subject of this thread but I did watch this one Alex posted in the Business and Finance forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTvqN8rOy54&feature=player_embedded

It was very good I thought.

John Pilger is a highly respected investigative journalist...

:lol:

If there are lies being told in this docu then please point them out.

Wouldn't one would have to waste one and a half hours watching John Pilger to do that.

How about you not commenting if you can't be bothered to watch the documentary? Honestly you're just making an arse of yourself with this Fox style nonsensical rubbishing of a journalist with no facts backing it up.

Pilger has received human rights and journalism awards...

all irrelevant! the resident negators of truth will call him sleazy, financed by islamist and anti-U.S. terrorists, a threat to world peace and national security seconding Bill O'Reilly, Ph.D. stup. and Sarah Palin, Ph.D. dumb.

Serious work is being done to prove this man is a sexual deviate as well.

Rumours he once bonked a woman without a condom abound.

The right have stated John Pilger is a liar. How much more proof do you need?

How dare you use bullshit prizes from lefty organisations to try to prove this man has any honesty or integrity at all.

answer the question LRB! how dare you???

How about you not commenting if you can't be bothered to watch the documentary?

You have come a long way in the last couple of months Smokie36...good on you

Serious work is being done to prove this man is a sexual deviate as well.

Rumours he once bonked a woman without a condom abound.

:lol: Or was it 2?

You're not suggesting two women at the same time are you?

Surely even the right wouldn't stoop so low as to accuse someone of that!

You're not suggesting two women at the same time are you?

Surely even the right wouldn't stoop so low as to accuse someone of that!

because it would be outright disgusting letting the third woman only watch without her participation!

This thread is being monitored, so please exercise care in your posts. OTB is set up to allow a little more freedom than some of the other sub-forums, however, the rules still apply.

Please reply to the post, not the personality or politics of the poster. If people are posting nonsense, you do not need to respond.

Thanks.

This thread is being monitored, so please exercise care in your posts. OTB is set up to allow a little more freedom than some of the other sub-forums, however, the rules still apply.

Please reply to the post, not the personality or politics of the poster. If people are posting nonsense, you do not need to respond.

Thanks.

I respect the need to refrain from discussing (as opposed to commenting on) moderation, but since OTB is a sub-forum of bedlam, surely the banter and humour can reign?

The posts in this thread are very humourous.

John Pilger is a highly respected investigative journalist...

:lol:

If there are lies being told in this docu then please point them out.

Wouldn't one would have to waste one and a half hours watching John Pilger to do that.

How about you not commenting if you can't be bothered to watch the documentary? Honestly you're just making an arse of yourself with this Fox style nonsensical rubbishing of a journalist with no facts backing it up.

I watched as much of the video as I could stand before commenting. I have also read his books and probably know more about him than most of his new Thai Visa 'fans".

in short it proves that most if not all of the hype up surrounding the occupations (and some other events)are indeed fabricated and false.

I've not seen it, and I don't even know what it's about.

But I'd make a bet that it 'proves' whatever the journo want's it to 'prove', and that another journo could make a documentary 'proving' the opposite.

It sounds like you know a lot about Pilger too. The holes in the logic of that VDO are gaping with even a little independent thought. .

It sounds like you know a lot about Pilger too. The holes in the logic of that VDO are gaping with even a little independent thought. .

Would you care to logically point out those "holes" with your "logical" independant thought?

I was asking for the same.

UG a self proclaimed Pilger expert? I expected a lot but not that.

Anyway UG if you can do us all a favor and add something substantial about either this docu or Pilger himself I am sure that would be highly appreciated.

Please enlighten "The Unwashed"

He's a huge fan of Noam Chomsky's books as well.