Perhaps the OP should have asked about history books instead of Hollywood interpretations.

Great idea if anyone has access to old history books. Maybe someone could scan a page and post it?

From Wiki

From Wiki and naam. Well that pretty much proves my point!

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples".

The main tribes were Tzekelesh, Shardana, Akhaiusha, Danauna, Tzakara, Masa or Meshwesh, Lukki, Dardana, Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Labu and Irven. The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the "Pelesati", was the island of Crete. When the Minoic civilization collapsed, also the Minoic culture disappeared from Crete, as invaders from Greece took control of the island. These ancient Cretans arrived in Southern Canaan and were known as "Pelestim and Keretim" by Hebrews and Canaanites (that became allied to fight the invaders).

Their first settlement seems to have been Gaza, whose original name was "Minoah", a clear reference to the fallen Minoic kingdom. They also invaded Egypt and were defeated by Pharaoh Ramose III in the 12th century BCE The Philistines were organized in city-states, being the most important the Pentapolis: Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath and Ekron, and their territory was close to the Mediterranean coast, a little longer and broader than the present-day "Gaza Strip" - not the whole Judah, they never reached Hevron, Jerusalem or Yericho!

Those Sea Peoples that invaded Egypt were expelled towards other Mediterranean lands and did not evolve into any Arab people, but disappeared as distinguishable groups in Roman times. Those dwelling in Canaan were defeated by King David and reduced to insignificance, the best warriors among them were chosen as David's bodyguard. The remaining Philistines still dwelling in Gaza were subdued by Sargon II of Assyria and after that time, they disappeared definitively from history. They are no longer mentioned since the return of the Jewish exiles from Babylon. Conclusion: there is not one single person in the world who may be able to prove Philistine lineage

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Perhaps the OP should have asked about history books instead of Hollywood interpretations.

Great idea if anyone has access to old history books. Maybe someone could scan a page and post it?

Not exactly a history book....and not a book we have much credence in...nonetheless, it is a reference, and an old one at that....waaaaaay before moving pictures came along.(and well before 1970)

From The Bible (King James version): Joel, Chapter 3. (made bold by me)

1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. 3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot , and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink . 4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head; 5

The name Pelesheth or Philistia are also referred to in The Bible and are in fact etymological roots of "Palestine", and thus just as valid. Where do you think the British got the name from? Did you think they just made it up?

It has been mentioned on here numerous times that the ancient Jewish kingdom that you are referring to has nothing to do the Arabs that have recently adopted the name.

The implication is that for a people who stake some historical claim to the land there is no reference to them before the 1970's so a claim based on history is invalid (whereas the Jews can make that claim). They are there now though and that's what matters most.

The people now called Palestinians (the name presumably dates from the British mandate, whatever UG may say) have been there all the time... generally they were just referred to as Arabs, which is a name giving no real territorial indication. So have the Jews, though not so many of them. Arabs and Jews lived there side by side until the incursion of Jews following the increasing popularity of Zionism. The territorial problem which now exists is a direct result of the establishment of a Jewish (religious) state bang in the middle of an area otherwise populated entirely by Muslims.

Actually, you are partially right. there have been both Arabs and Jews in the area for a long time, but most of the Arabs were also recent immigrants encouraged by the chance to work for Jewish businesses that have dominated Jerusalem for about 150 years.

The Jews had just as much right to the land as the Arabs (actually more because they bought much of it legally), but the Arabs repeatedly attacked them and led to the UN vote on the independence of Israel as a separate entity.

"Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies... Palestine is desolate and unlovely... It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land... [a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds - a silent mournful expanse... A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action... We never saw a human being on the whole route... There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country..." - Mark Twain (describing Palestine on a visit in 1867).

The people now called Palestinians (the name presumably dates from the British mandate, whatever UG may say)

There are a lot of Arabs that dispute that.

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria". - said to the UN Security Council in 1956 by Ahmed Shukeiry, who later founded the PLO - the Palestine Liberation Organization.

According to some posters, the thread was started with an ulterior motive. That really is acceptable.

It's the same people arguing the same thing over and over again.

There's a topic and since it's not being adhered to, it is now closed.