I learn from another forum that a new bar has just opened in Buriram called Nekromantik. It offers live shows on Saturdays. When the mind has finished boggling, would posters like to suggest what the shows might consist of? My rather obvious suggestion was a spot of raising from the dead.

Dead seriously, do you believe in ghosts?

"Dead seriously, do you believe in ghosts?"

What a question. Do you believe in nature? Do you believe in air?

You don't need to believe in stuff that is everyday reality. It won't go away if you don't see it.

I remember your story on another part of the forum, Tom, so I know you do.

I thought, however, that an awful lot of people don't believe in ghosts.. so I hoped for a few true ghost stories to convince the doubters.

My aunt and uncle used to look after Avondale, the home of the author LP Hartley, in Batheaston. 3 of us stayed there for a couple of nights. We were all about 19. We slept in the same room and we all saw the same little girl in an old fashioned nightdress walk across the room smiling as she did so. She appeared out of thin air and vanished back into thin air. We were all sober and all awake when she appeared so I suppose I do believe in ghosts as there was no other explanation for her appearance.

'Believe' would be the wrong word.

But there are scientific theories that could make it possible, although I think there would be more evidence available by now.

I remember your story on another part of the forum, Tom, so I know you do.

I thought, however, that an awful lot of people don't believe in ghosts.. so I hoped for a few true ghost stories to convince the doubters.

I told the story in another thread a few years ago, so maybe it's time to retell.

I was sleeping the other night and woke up because it suddenly got really cold in the room. I opened my eyes and saw an old man standing at the foot of our bed, looking approvingly at me and my partner. It may have lasted a few second or a few minutes, but then the old man disappeared, the temperature in the room normalised, and I fell sleep again. I hadn't felt any threat whatsoever.

In the morning, I told my partner about what I would still have classified as a dream at that time. He went pale and showed me a picture of his grandfather who I had never seen before. It was the exact same old man.

He explained to me that his gandfather had died the day before and that Thai people believe that anybody who dies will visit their loved ones within three days to say good-bye. I have no doubt any more that this is what happened.

Sure, I believe in "ghosts". I don't believe that everything needs a "scientific" explanation and I would put the existence of ghosts on that list.

'Believe' would be the wrong word.

But there are scientific theories that could make it possible, although I think there would be more evidence available by now.

No, I think belief is the right word. There are numerous entirely credible stories, such as the two on this thread, which cannot be proved. Evidence on film can be faked, so that does not constitute proof. What would?

By the way, I've never seen a ghost myself, but I do believe in them!

'Believe' would be the wrong word.

But there are scientific theories that could make it possible, although I think there would be more evidence available by now.

No, I think belief is the right word. There are numerous entirely credible stories, such as the two on this thread, which cannot be proved. Evidence on film can be faked, so that does not constitute proof. What would?

By the way, I've never seen a ghost myself, but I do believe in them!

Belief would not be the right word for me.

Just because I do not believe in ghosts, that does not mean to say that I believe ghosts do not exist.

There is evidence of the possibility of ghosts, such as the double slit experiment, but of course that is wide open to interpretation.

Sure, I believe in "ghosts". I don't believe that everything needs a "scientific" explanation and I would put the existence of ghosts on that list.

I suspect everything has a scientific explanation, even the mystical.

Sure, I believe in "ghosts". I don't believe that everything needs a "scientific" explanation and I would put the existence of ghosts on that list.

I suspect everything has a scientific explanation, even the mystical.

That's cryptic.

I say there are two worlds, one we can explain with science, and one we cannot explain yet. It doesn't mean that that the latter does not exist.

I do not believe in creationism or a superior design, or whatever new dieties are invented these days. Darwin got it right, Newton got it right, Einstein got it right, but there's more to it we don't know yet.

Sure, I believe in "ghosts". I don't believe that everything needs a "scientific" explanation and I would put the existence of ghosts on that list.

I suspect everything has a scientific explanation, even the mystical.

That's cryptic.

I say there are two worlds, one we can explain with science, and one we cannot explain yet. It doesn't mean that that the latter does not exist.

I do not believe in creationism or a superior design, or whatever new dieties are invented these days. Darwin got it right, Newton got it right, Einstein got it right, but there's more to it we don't know yet.

I thought Einstein was proved wrong?

I still don't think that Science can explain everything. It is not the be all and end all of all that exists.

Sure, I believe in "ghosts". I don't believe that everything needs a "scientific" explanation and I would put the existence of ghosts on that list.

I suspect everything has a scientific explanation, even the mystical.

That's cryptic.

I say there are two worlds, one we can explain with science, and one we cannot explain yet. It doesn't mean that that the latter does not exist.

I do not believe in creationism or a superior design, or whatever new dieties are invented these days. Darwin got it right, Newton got it right, Einstein got it right, but there's more to it we don't know yet.

I thought Einstein was proved wrong?

I still don't think that Science can explain everything. It is not the be all and end all of all that exists.

At this moment in time, science cannot explain everything. Whether it will be able to do so some time in the future is a matter for pure speculation. Obviously as a Christian, I do not believe it will; a non-believer may think otherwise if they wish!

Sure, I believe in "ghosts". I don't believe that everything needs a "scientific" explanation and I would put the existence of ghosts on that list.

I suspect everything has a scientific explanation, even the mystical.

That's cryptic.

I say there are two worlds, one we can explain with science, and one we cannot explain yet. It doesn't mean that that the latter does not exist.

I do not believe in creationism or a superior design, or whatever new dieties are invented these days. Darwin got it right, Newton got it right, Einstein got it right, but there's more to it we don't know yet.

I thought Einstein was proved wrong?

I still don't think that Science can explain everything. It is not the be all and end all of all that exists.

When was Einstein proven wrong? I think I missed that.

I agree with your second sentence, as I said above.

When was Einstein proven wrong? I think I missed that.

Einstein said that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

Recently, however, neutrinos were measured at travelling a fraction faster than the speed of light. The experiments are being re-done to test their accuracy and check them for mistakes.

When I said that I suspect science could explain the mystical, I mean I suspect the mystical is not so mystical after all. Rather it is just something that we have no way of understanding (yet).

When was Einstein proven wrong? I think I missed that.

Einstein said that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

Recently, however, neutrinos were measured at travelling a fraction faster than the speed of light. The experiments are being re-done to test their accuracy and check them for mistakes.

When I said that I suspect science could explain the mystical, I mean I suspect the mystical is not so mystical after all. Rather it is just something that we have no way of understanding (yet).

That doesn't prove Einstein wrong yet.

When you look at Newton's physics, all matter maintains the same weight, but Einstein said it depends on the speed. This does not prove Newton wrong; Newton experimented with very small speeds. Therefore, Einstein expanded on Newton's theories.

Now there is something that doesn't seem to fit into our understanding, and into what Einstein had said. It is possible (likely, even) that there is an additional parameter that Einstein didn't look at, and which was constant in Einstein's theory. In the even of this neutrino being faster than light, that particular parameter was different, and if true, it expends on Einstein's theories but does not prove him wrong.

And I agree with your last sentence. Whatever we consider mystical is something that we cannot explain. and what we might be able to explain in the future. Therefore, I also have to add a paramter: "Todays's" science cannot explain everything. Maybe tomorrow (or in a hundred years) science can explain more.

Science will explain more, for sure, but will science ever explain everything? That surely is the question here. My belief, not only as a Christian, but on other grounds too, is that there will remain a hard core of the inexplicable..... and ghosts may be part of it.

Science will explain more, for sure, but will science ever explain everything? That surely is the question here. My belief, not only as a Christian, but on other grounds too, is that there will remain a hard core of the inexplicable..... and ghosts may be part of it.

Science explains more every year. When will it have explained everything? In 100 years? In 1,000 years? In a million years? Ever? I am pretty sure that neither of us will be around by then.

In the meantime, the inexplicable will be explained with religions or other beliefs, you are right. Humankind has always done that.