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Upcoming Us Presidential Election

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Unemployment figures due to be released soon. I wonder what the reaction will be to the U-6 rate as it nears record highs.

Makes one wonder who those people in the 14.9% of the unemployed and underemployed are going to vote for.

Wasn't it Obama himself that claimed if he couldn't fix the economy in his first term, he didn't deserve a second term?

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Real' Unemployment Rate Shows Far More Jobless

By: Jeff Cox

CNBC.com Senior Writer

The government's most widely publicized unemployment rate measures only those who are out of a job and currently looking for work. It does not count discouraged potential employees who have quit looking, nor those who are underemployed — wanting to work full-time but forced to work part-time.

For that count, the government releases a separate number called the "U-6," which provides a more complete tally of how many people really are out of work.

The numbers in some cases are startling.

Consider: Nevada's U-6 rate is 22.1 percent, up from just 7.6 percent in 2007. Economically troubled California has a 20.3 percent real rate, while Rhode Island is at 18.3 percent, more than double its 8.3 percent rate in 2007.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48468748

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And herein lies the real problem...

No one has talked about the Democratic Party in a long time. Democrats don't talk about it because they feel they're on the run, and have brand problems.

Just a few years ago it was the Republicans with the "brand problem". The pattern here, is that whichever party is in control has "brand problems" because THEY BOTH SUCK. They can no longer lead. They are in constant campaign mode. They no longer try to do what's best for the country. They are more concerned with making the other guy look bad (Reps with anything Obama or a few years ago with Dems cheering US failures in Iraq). The Republicans and Democrats are a just a choice of the lesser of two evils depending on your political leanings.

Most recently, "Hope & Change" was supposed to change all that but turned out to be more of the same hollow political rhetoric we've been getting and will continue to get for the unforeseeable future. It's tempting to say f*** it! and withdraw from the political process. But I think that's what politicians want. Politicians want people who pay attention to the real issues to get fed up and stop voting. Those are the people most likely to hold politicians accountable. They like the masses who get sucked into distraction issues and are easily fooled by negative campaign ads. We need less of those masses, and more of the people who are fed up - fed up but won't quit the process, but demand change to it. Of course, that would require people from opposite ends of the political spectrum working together and that'll never happen. Maybe the best course of action really is to just say f*** it! after all.

I agree that both parties suck, but still think that the country has a better chance with conservatives than liberals and that Romney has to be better than Obama.

Obama has failed miserably and the democrats keep trying to pretend that his failed policies are going to change things for the better despite all the evidence to the contrary. The blatant lies of the democrats about Romney and about the economy and the desperate attempts to pander to special interests simply to win the election even though they have not improved anything are becoming more and more obvious.

The faces of food stamps

From returning veterans to recent college graduates, the faces of food stamps may not be what you imagine. Their stories tell of an economy still in crisis. http://money.msn.com...-of-food-stamps

Romney's "health plan" includes the status quo of allowing insurance companies to reject the applications of those with preexisting conditions. That policy alone will cause the premature deaths of hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans. Reject this elitist man for the rich only.

Romney's "health plan" includes the status quo of allowing insurance companies to reject the applications of those with preexisting conditions. That policy alone will cause the premature deaths of hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans. Reject this elitist man for the rich only.

Millions! Millions I tell you!! :rolleyes:

Romney's "health plan" includes the status quo of allowing insurance companies to reject the applications of those with preexisting conditions. That policy alone will cause the premature deaths of hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans. Reject this elitist man for the rich only.

Millions! Millions I tell you!! rolleyes.gif

That's right wingers for you. Poor and sick people dying for no good reason when the care is there but inaccessible, they simply don't care. Yes this is a values election. Sick cynical anti-minority/anti-poor people values of social Darwinism vs. more civilized values represented by at least the sincere EFFORT of Obamacare. Yes, the right wing's disgusting health care access policies do indeed target minority groups at much higher per capita rates than whites. So when people like me suspect racism behind a lot of right wing actions, such as the birther movement, we've got evidence to back it up.

[so when people like me suspect racism behind a lot of right wing actions, such as the birther movement, we've got evidence to back it up.

There are about 10 actual "birthers" in total, so what you suspect has little validity. rolleyes.gif

New job figures and unemployment has gone up to 8.3. No president since 1936 has been reelected with unemployment over 8 percent..

Romney's "health plan" includes the status quo of allowing insurance companies to reject the applications of those with preexisting conditions. That policy alone will cause the premature deaths of hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans. Reject this elitist man for the rich only.

Millions! Millions I tell you!! rolleyes.gif

That's right wingers for you. Poor and sick people dying for no good reason when the care is there but inaccessible, they simply don't care. Yes this is a values election. Sick cynical anti-minority/anti-poor people values of social Darwinism vs. more civilized values represented by at least the sincere EFFORT of Obamacare.

If you are going to whine about evil rich right wingers, why not explain why the uber-wealthy, left-wing Hollywood elite and their billionaire friends don't do more for the poor?

You can't stand the fact that the religious nuts who you despise so much actually donate MORE time and money each helping sick people all over the world than every "bleeding heart liberal" combined over the history of mankind. Heck, even Romney donated his entire inheritance.

This is a fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives voluntarily donate their own money and time to worthy causes of their own choosing while liberals want the government to tax (take other people's money) to help others while doing nothing about it themselves.

So he's a moderate this week? That's news.

You're talking BS, dude.

Romney was in Israel and praised the Israeli socialized health care system which yes IS excellent.

Americans can only DREAM about having a health care system like Israel.

The Israeli health care system is FAR to the left of Obamacare.

In the US, Romney vows to trash Obamacare and runs away from his sensible Massachusetts health care program which was the DIRECT inspiration for Obamacare.

Again, you don't get it. Romney cares about only one thing. Being president. Americans have no idea what he is. They wonder if he even knows. His likeability numbers are VERY LOW, they don't budge, and there is no hope they will budge. There is no way America is going to make that creep president. Bank on it.

Another 4 years of Obama and Israel will certainly need their health care system considering Obama's serial incompetence in empowering the enemies of Israel whilst undermining her at every opportunity.

P.S Out of interest in order to be supposedly pro-Israel and pro-Obama do you need to wear any specially adapted headgear to prevent your own head exploding?

New job figures and unemployment has gone up to 8.3. No president since 1936 has been reelected with unemployment over 8 percent..

But not since 1936 has the US had a president as inspiring as Obama. That will easily offset the unemployment rate.

[so when people like me suspect racism behind a lot of right wing actions, such as the birther movement, we've got evidence to back it up.

There are about 10 actual "birthers" in total, so what you suspect has little validity. rolleyes.gif

Donald Trump, the buffoon, has millions of followers.

And check this out! The majority of republican primary voters were birthers! As usual you are very disingenuous. I don't believe for a second you actually believed birthers were that rare.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-02-16/news/28622364_1_birther-movement-public-policy-polling-survey-ppp-poll


Majority of 2012 Republican primary voters are birthers, do not believe Obama born in U.S.: poll

So he's a moderate this week? That's news.

You're talking BS, dude.

Romney was in Israel and praised the Israeli socialized health care system which yes IS excellent.

Americans can only DREAM about having a health care system like Israel.

The Israeli health care system is FAR to the left of Obamacare.

In the US, Romney vows to trash Obamacare and runs away from his sensible Massachusetts health care program which was the DIRECT inspiration for Obamacare.

Again, you don't get it. Romney cares about only one thing. Being president. Americans have no idea what he is. They wonder if he even knows. His likeability numbers are VERY LOW, they don't budge, and there is no hope they will budge. There is no way America is going to make that creep president. Bank on it.

Another 4 years of Obama and Israel will certainly need their health care system considering Obama's serial incompetence in empowering the enemies of Israel whilst undermining her at every opportunity.

P.S Out of interest in order to be supposedly pro-Israel and pro-Obama do you need to wear any specially adapted headgear to prevent your own head exploding?

Obama is very strong on Israel. Obama and Romney would almost identical on Israel. The vast majority of Jews will be voting for Obama AGAIN and trust me most are very pro Israel.

Obama is very strong on Israel. Obama and Romney would almost identical on Israel.

“There’s a sucker born every minute.”

Romney isn't better. Offer Americans something better you might have something.

Next ...

Romney isn't better. Offer Americans something better you might have something.

Next ...

Romney is offering us 4 more years of Mike Dukakis, what more could you ask for?

Romney isn't better. Offer Americans something better you might have something.

Next ...

Romney is offering us 4 more years of Mike Dukakis, what more could you ask for?

You needed someone like Bloomberg but your base is so right wing wackazoid you aren't capable of nominating someone credible.

Romney isn't better. Offer Americans something better you might have something.

Next ...

Romney is offering us 4 more years of Mike Dukakis, what more could you ask for?

You needed someone like Bloomberg but your base is so right wing wackazoid you aren't capable of nominating someone credible.

JT, you used to be better, you used to talk about issues. Same could be said for your Obama.

It's about blocking the radical right wing now. That's it.

No, it's about innuendo and labels. Richard Nixon would have been proud of the campaign that Obama is running.

It's about blocking the radical right wing now. That's it.

No, it's about innuendo and labels. Richard Nixon would have been proud of the campaign that Obama is running.

Both sides are running sleazy campaigns.

It's about blocking the radical right wing now. That's it.

No, it's about innuendo and labels. Richard Nixon would have been proud of the campaign that Obama is running.

Both sides are running sleazy campaigns.

That's precisely the problem. "Hope and Change" has been replaced by "He's Doing it Too". Sometimes I wonder if it's an intentional plot born from collaboration between the political parities. Make your rhetoric so sophomoric that all reasonable people tune out, and then you're left with only unreasonable people voting.

Don't be so naive. This is a blocking election. Pure and simple. It is what it is. The main motivation for most voters will be to block the other guy. I sincerely believe more Americans will want to block Romney.

Don't be so naive. This is a blocking election. Pure and simple. It is what it is. The main motivation for most voters will be to block the other guy. I sincerely believe more Americans will want to block Romney.

How inspiring.

I sincerely believe more Americans will want to block Romney.

Not with 8.3 unemployment. The buck stops with the current president.

Don't be so naive. This is a blocking election. Pure and simple. It is what it is. The main motivation for most voters will be to block the other guy. I sincerely believe more Americans will want to block Romney.

I see Obama is doing his best to block U.S servicemen voting whilst illegal immigrants and people's dead pets are kept on the register. Juxtapose this with the legal action in Florida to resist illegals being kicked off the register.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/08/obama-campaign-sues-to-restrict-military-voting.html

Obama is running one of the most dirty, dishonest campaigns of all time and the American people are starting to realize that he is all style and no substance. The Big Lie tactic only gets you so far before people realize what you are doing.

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