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Upcoming Us Presidential Election

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Dear readers, here is much of the reason the Obama administration has been such a failure and the recovery has never really started.

New government regulations are killing the economy along with instability in the tax codes and that great unknown...Obamacare.

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Under Obama, 11,327 Pages of Federal Regulations Added

By Penny Starr

September 10, 2012

(CNSNews.com) – Over the past three years, the bound edition of the Code of Federal Regulations has increased by 11,327 pages – a 7.4 percent increase from Jan. 1, 2009 to Dec. 31, 2011. In 2009, the increase in the number of pages was the most over the last decade – 3.4 percent or 5,359 pages.

Over the past decade, the federal government has issued almost 38,000 new final rules, according to the draft of the 2011 annual report to Congress on federal regulations by the Office of Management and Budget. That brought the total at the end of 2011 to 169,301 pages.

That is more than double the number of pages needed to publish the regulations back in 1975 when the bound edition consisted of 71,244 pages.

http://cnsnews.com/n...gulations-added

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Edit in: I just ran across this article that also pertains to government bureaucracy and red tape:

Feds need 18 pages to define 'full-time' for Obamacare

September 10, 2012 | 5:28 pm

Paul Bedard

One of the most-anticipated new federal regulations governing which companies will be required to provide health insurance under Obamacare has finally landed--with a thud.

In the latest indication of how complicated putting the Affordable Care Act into action will be, the Department of Health and Human Services and Internal Revenue Service issued 18-pages of regulations just to describe what a "full-time employee" is. Of note, to the Feds a full-time employee works an average of just 30 hours a week, not the normally accepted 40 hours.

The IRS rule is key because companies with more than 50 full-time employees must provide health insurance under Obamacare, or be fined. Business groups have been warning that small companies might try to replace full-time workers with part-time help to avoid being forced to offer health insurance in 2014, but the 30-hour full-time definition is likely to undermine those plans.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/feds-need-18-pages-to-define-full-time-for-obamacare/article/2507528#.UE9p0bLiaB1

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What a completely inane argument. When is a flip flop not a flip flop?

I suppose it is when JT decides it is. cheesy.gif

Again, these are totally different issues with totally different histories.

If I was supporting a political product as flimsy as Romney, I guess I would tempted to resort to cheap personal attacks against posters as well. But it won't wash. Americans are not QUITE as stupid as you might hope:

To review, Romney was for Obamacare before he was against it before he was for it again, except the keystone element that makes the rest of Obamacare work, which he developed and implemented but steadfastly opposes.
http://www.washingto...ry.html?hpid=z2

Now, UG will say, oh no! It's a left wing blog. No, Virginia. It is the FACTS.

It is a competely distorted left-wing rag. Romneycare used already existing funds and did not raise taxes. It is NOT the same plan.

Americans are not QUITE as stupid as you might hope:

If they vote for another 4 years of this administration's failure they are.

The latest Washington Post/ABC poll oversamples democrats and still has a virtual tie. If Obama got a bump from the convention, it seems to be vanishing.

No arguments from me there chuck biggrin.png

The question is. Has that idiot Romney, who likes to insult his greatest allies ever heard of it, or any other sport that is outside the USA. He really needs to buck up on his people skills with the rest of the world. Speaking as a non-american, it's quite scary that this guy could become leader. IMO of course.

Are you talking about Romney's remarks about the preparations for the Olympics? I honestly believe you will find him a much more trustworthy ally than the current resident of the White House.

Obama will cut anybody loose for his own personal benefit. He still hasn't backed the UK over the Falklands issue.

The Olympics was one example but he doesn't seem to be on Putins xmas card list either

Putin would like anybody that agrees with him. For instance here is Obama talking to Medvedev about Missile Defense Shields, and Medvedev's response that he will pass the information on to Vladimir. No wonder Putin likes Obama.

He always has time for the enemies of the U.S, but can't seem to stop throwing it's allies under a bus.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19565910

It is a competely distorted left-wing rag. Romneycare used already existing funds and did not raise taxes. It is NOT the same plan.

No. The core was mandates. Nobody can run from that truth.

President Obama raises more money than unemployed super rich dude Romney in August. So much for the theory that Romney can buy the election. So how is Romney going to win in Ohio? Because if he doesn't, and he won't, he is TOAST.

Maybe the voters in Ohio will decided to vote for the guy who actually knows how to spell the name of their state. Guess which candidate doesn't qualify?

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There's no excuse for Romney's flip flopping. Romneycare. Obamacare. He invented it before he wanted to kill it. The problem for the republicans is both their extremist ideology and the extremely unattractive candidate they selected. They blew it.

Is that flip flop thing the same as Obama being FOR same sex marriages before he was AGAINST same sex marriages before he was FOR same sex marriages?

Not the same at all. Obama didn't INVENT same sex marriage, and believe me gay people knew all along he was the best president in U.S. history for gay civil rights.

When did you know that? When they published that photo of him shirtless on the beach? Seriously, he flip-flopped on the issue like everyone else, Of course, he lies more than everyone else so I can understand you not believing him when he said he was against same se marriage.

Do the Democrats and Obama take the Jewish vote for granted? Are Jewish voters blind Democrat voters just like Blacks? First, Obama has been the most anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian US president in history. THEN they take Jerusalem out of the Dem platform. THEN at least half the Dem delegates at the convention voted against stating Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and booed like crazy when it was put back in. NOW you get Obama refusing to meet with Netanyahu because he plans an appearance on David Letterman instead. In your face, Bibi! We don't need a time machine to go back to the 1930's and ask Jews what they were thinking by supporting that madman in Germany, we can just ask Jews today who they are thinking by supporting the Democratic party ticket who are openly hostile to Israel. I shudder to think what the Dems have to do for the Jewish voters to finally wake up to the fact that Obama and the Dems of today are no friends of Israel. It won't be death camps like before, this time it will probably come in the form of approving Iran's membership in the nuclear club.

OBAMA ANNOUNCES LETTERMAN APPEARANCE ON DAY HE SNUBBED NETANYAHU

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/09/11/obama-back-letterman

For American Jews, Israel is one of many issues. For me personally, HEALTH CARE in the U.S. has been my top issue. If American Jews really did believe the right wing propaganda that the democrats don't support Israel, they would lose some Jewish support, sure. But we don't believe it and the Jewish vote for Obama will be similar as last time. Again, American Jews are LIBERAL and the politics of Romney DISGUSTS the vast majority of us.

For American Jews, Israel is one of many issues. For me personally, HEALTH CARE in the U.S. has been my top issue. If American Jews really did believe the right wing propaganda that the democrats don't support Israel, they would lose some Jewish support, sure. But we don't believe it and the Jewish vote for Obama will be similar as last time. Again, American Jews are LIBERAL and the politics of Romney DISGUSTS the vast majority of us.

...and I'm sure a lot of German Jews were really impressed with the new roads.

btw - it isn't right-wing propaganda that the Dems don't support Israel as much as they used to. It's all there for everyone to watch and read for themselves.

American Jews still hope for PEACE in that region. That means Palestinians need to be respected as well, at least the minority of them that are open to compromise that allows the existence of Israel as a Jewish state. Your Nazi analogies are offensive and not worthy of any response at all except: SHAME!

Supporting Israel's existence is not the same thing as supportive every policy of the Israeli government. Such as the illegal settlements in the west bank, etc. American Jews support Israel but are not rubber stamps for every policy of the right wing Israeli government. American Jews get the difference. It's really your problem if you don't.

That all said, I do feel we are heading towards attacks on Iran. Whether Israel does it alone or with allies, I don't know yet.

American Jews still hope for PEACE in that region. That means Palestinians need to be respected as well, at least the minority of them that are open to compromise that allows the existence of Israel as a Jewish state. Your Nazi analogies are offensive and not worthy of any response at all except: SHAME!

Supporting Israel's existence is not the same thing as supportive every policy of the Israeli government. Such as the illegal settlements in the west bank, etc. American Jews support Israel but are not rubber stamps for every policy of the right wing Israeli government. American Jews get the difference. It's really your problem if you don't.

That all said, I do feel we are heading towards attacks on Iran. Whether Israel does it alone or with allies, I don't know yet.

And I hope to win the lottery. You know very well the hate that spews out of Palestinian TV, or from their so called religious leaders. When this stops and the majority want compromise then reciprocal concessions are possible. Incidentally your beloved POTUS has been at it again apologizing to extremists for storming U.S embassies and killing their staff - disgusting and disgraceful as Romney correctly pointed out. Obama is a true enigma, is he merely a useful idiot surrounded by fellow useful idiots and seditious infiltrators, or is he himself seditious and actively conspiring against the interests of his later life home? I think we should be told.

If the USA is perceived as being 100 percent pro Israel and not even open to hearing Palestinian concerns, then we have ZERO percent chance of having any influence in potential future peace negotiations. I understand it looks bad but I can't accept it is hopeless and in the long run the way Israel has been pushed to the far right in its treatment of Palestinians hurts Israel and global Jews, because we are being made to look like pariahs.

American Jews still hope for PEACE in that region. That means Palestinians need to be respected as well, at least the minority of them that are open to compromise that allows the existence of Israel as a Jewish state. Your Nazi analogies are offensive and not worthy of any response at all except: SHAME!

Supporting Israel's existence is not the same thing as supportive every policy of the Israeli government. Such as the illegal settlements in the west bank, etc. American Jews support Israel but are not rubber stamps for every policy of the right wing Israeli government. American Jews get the difference. It's really your problem if you don't.

That all said, I do feel we are heading towards attacks on Iran. Whether Israel does it alone or with allies, I don't know yet.

Forget the illegal settlement strawmen, Democrats do not believe Jerusalem is the capital of Israel - do you agree with the Dems?

Obama refuses to meet with the Israeli PM, instead chooses Letterman - do you agree with Obama?

The Dems removed from their platform the part about complete isolation of Hamas until it renounces terrorism, recognizes Israel's right to exist and abides by past agreements - do you agree with the Dems?

The Dems are no longer against the Palestinian "right of return" which will make Jews a minority in their own country - do you agree with the Dems?

Obama and the Dems want Israel to fall back to the thin, indefensible pre-1967 borders - do you agree them?

I think the specific borders of Jerusalem and whether or not Jerusalem is the capital of Israel is something that can be a negotiating point for a potential peace settlement. I see no compelling reason why that should be a major issue for the USA. That's an internal Israeli matter. I don't really care what any other country other than Israel thinks about it.

Obama should make time to meet with Netanyahu if at all possible. He may still do so during this trip. I hope so. I don't approve of Netanyahu's politics, but he is the PM.

I am not aware of any change in the policy of the Obama administration about the Palestinian demands for right of return. Please show me a quote and link from the OBAMA administration about that saying they support the Palestinians demands for right of return into Israel. In other words, I do NOT believe that any such change actually EXISTS and if you are talking about the platform, I do not care.

IF it is true that the OBAMA administration is openly and clearly supporting the Palestinian right of return into Israel (again, I do NOT believe this) yes that would change a lot of American Jewish votes because realization of that policy would mean the end of the existence of the Jewish state of Israel. Yes I understand the democrat party harbors a lot of super lefties who are hostile to Israel's existence, but I don't believe the Obama administration itself is similarly hostile.

I think the 1967 borders are a good place to start TALKING in a good faith peace negotiation. Many Israelis do as well. No, Israel should not retreat to that without a solid agreement and security assurances.

If the USA is perceived as being 100 percent pro Israel and not even open to hearing Palestinian concerns, then we have ZERO percent chance of having any influence in potential future peace negotiations. I understand it looks bad but I can't accept it is hopeless and in the long run the way Israel has been pushed to the far right in its treatment of Palestinians hurts Israel and global Jews, because we are being made to look like pariahs.

Are Saudis made to look bad due to the decapitations, stonings and their domestic workers in conditions resembling slavery?

Are the Egyptians or Pakistanis made to look like pariahs due to their forced conversions, persecution of Christians, their archaic blasphemy laws and honour killings? I could go on but you get the point, If you think you are being made to look bad due to a few Israeli settlements then you are swallowing the media view of your enemies. And come the Democratic OWS street taking over how do you think it would be? Did you not notice the very visible undercurrents of antisemitism in those protests?

I guess at the end of the day though a job in the orchestra beats sweeping up detail.

I am very aware of the connection between criticisms of Israel and anti-semitism! But in the long run I believe Israel and global Jews will be better off if there is a path towards peaceful coexistence between Israelis and Palestinians.

If the USA is perceived as being 100 percent pro Israel and not even open to hearing Palestinian concerns, then we have ZERO percent chance of having any influence in potential future peace negotiations. I understand it looks bad but I can't accept it is hopeless and in the long run the way Israel has been pushed to the far right in its treatment of Palestinians hurts Israel and global Jews, because we are being made to look like pariahs.

Are Saudis made to look bad due to the decapitations, stonings and their domestic workers in conditions resembling slavery?

Are the Egyptians or Pakistanis made to look like pariahs due to their forced conversions, persecution of Christians, their archaic blasphemy laws and honour killings? I could go on but you get the point, If you think you are being made to look bad due to a few Israeli settlements then you are swallowing the media view of your enemies. And come the Democratic OWS street taking over how do you think it would be? Did you not notice the very visible undercurrents of antisemitism in those protests?

I guess at the end of the day though a job in the orchestra beats sweeping up detail.

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I think the specific borders of Jerusalem and whether or not Jerusalem is the capital of Israel is something that can be a negotiating point for a potential peace settlement. I see no compelling reason why that should be a major issue for the USA. That's an internal Israeli matter. I don't really care what any other country other than Israel thinks about it.

Obama should make time to meet with Netanyahu if at all possible. He may still do so during this trip. I hope so. I don't approve of Netanyahu's politics, but he is the PM.

I am not aware of any change in the policy of the Obama administration about the Palestinian demands for right of return. Please show me a quote and link from the OBAMA administration about that saying they support the Palestinians demands for right of return into Israel. In other words, I do NOT believe that any such change actually EXISTS and if you are talking about the platform, I do not care.

IF it is true that the OBAMA administration is openly and clearly supporting the Palestinian right of return into Israel (again, I do NOT believe this) yes that would change a lot of American Jewish votes because realization of that policy would mean the end of the existence of the Jewish state of Israel. Yes I understand the democrat party harbors a lot of super lefties who are hostile to Israel's existence, but I don't believe the Obama administration itself is similarly hostile.

I think the 1967 borders are a good place to start TALKING in a good faith peace negotiation. Many Israelis do as well. No, Israel should not retreat to that without a solid agreement and security assurances.

Those items were taken out of the Democrat's platform.

Platforms and conventions are taken over by more fringe party activists. Everyone knows that. I won't be defending the platform and I won't assume Obama is tied to any platform. Again, show me Obama statements and policies instead. American Jews understand political game playing, and we know platforms are hardly even READ, much less taken literally. I understand the right wing wants to flame this and deludes themselves (as usual) that they can change the overwhelmingly democratic nature of the American Jewish vote (which matters a lot in Florida). But they can't, so don't even bother.

Platforms and conventions are taken over by more fringe party activists. Everyone knows that. I won't be defending the platform and I won't assume Obama is tied to any platform. Again, show me Obama statements and policies instead. American Jews understand political game playing, and we know platforms are hardly even READ, much less taken literally. I understand the right wing wants to flame this and deludes themselves (as usual) that they can change the overwhelmingly democratic nature of the American Jewish vote (which matters a lot in Florida). But they can't, so don't even bother.

Gee, when it comes to abortion, party platforms according to you are the gospel of the candidate, but when the shoe is on the other foot and shows your boy in the bag for the Palestinians, all of a sudden platforms are meaningless.

I'm more interested in Romney/Ryan's positions than the R platform.

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I'm more interested in Romney/Ryan's positions than the R platform.

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:D The best way to get you to change the subject is to point out how you support the guy and political party who want to see Israel go the way of Atlantis.

Next... :D

I'm more interested in Romney/Ryan's positions than the R platform.

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biggrin.png The best way to get you to change the subject is to point out how you support the guy and political party who want to see Israel go the way of Atlantis.

Next... biggrin.png

That is your fantasy. Not the reality. The Obama you WANT to run against. Your BUBBLE Obama. Not the REAL Obama. Demonize. Demonize. Demonize.

I'm more interested in Romney/Ryan's positions than the R platform.

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biggrin.png The best way to get you to change the subject is to point out how you support the guy and political party who want to see Israel go the way of Atlantis.

Next... biggrin.png

That is your fantasy. Not the reality. The Obama you WANT to run against. Your BUBBLE Obama. Not the REAL Obama. Demonize. Demonize. Demonize.

I've already told you, Obama is not a demon...just a Marxist.

I've already told you, Obama is not a demon...just a Marxist.

He is neither.

Anyway what is Romney's foreign policy experience? Converting the French to Mormonism? How many did he convert? Ryan, we know, has NOTHING.

Before you accuse me on Mormon bashing specifically. No, I am not. I am against ANY religion aggressively trying to convert people. I contend that I am suspicious of a man whose only significant foreign policy experience is to try to delude French people into believing a specifically American religion. That's the kind of cultural imperialistic mindset I don't want in MY president.

I've already told you, Obama is not a demon...just a Marxist.

He is neither.

Anyway what is Romney's foreign policy experience? Converting the French to Mormonism? How many did he convert? Ryan, we know, has NOTHING.

Before you accuse me on Mormon bashing specifically. No, I am not. I am against ANY religion aggressively trying to convert people. I contend that I am suspicious of a man whose only significant foreign policy experience is to try to delude French people into believing a specifically American religion. That's the kind of cultural imperialistic mindset I don't want in MY president.

Well that rules out the favourite religion du jour of the president, and his beloved Arab spring with Islamists running amok abducting Christian and Hindu girls and forcing them to convert to the religion of peace. Interestingly the U.S state department has canned the yearly report of religious persecution by Country - perhaps they are saving the Mormons some embarrassment. :)

Obama is a Christian. Stop pretending he is a Muslim or not born in the USA. Please.

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