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George Zimmerman, Killer Of Travon Martin ... Now Accused Of Rape

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All you have to do is look at his vile twitter feed and you get a pretty good idea of what he was like. That plus the burglar tools, the stolen goods, the tattoos, the drugs, the suspensions and George Zimmerman's injuries point to a juvenile delinquent.

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But a boy is dead, and bottom line the jury decides whether the boy needed to be dead or not REGARDLESS of the technical instructions.

You mean regardless of the LAW. George Zimmerman did absolutely nothing that broke the law. Only Trayvon Martin did anything criminal.

But a boy is dead, and bottom line the jury decides whether the boy needed to be dead or not REGARDLESS of the technical instructions.

You mean regardless of the LAW. George Zimmerman did absolutely nothing that broke the law. Only Trayvon Martin did anything criminal.

It's clear/undisputed that Martin attacked Zimmerman, that is unless one believes Zimmerman broke his own nose. For some reason there are those who wish to blame this on a neighborhood watch "white hispanic" (whatever that is other than more CNN genius reporting) man. Is it because Martin attacked a man who had a gun and every liberal believes that those who possess guns legally (and are not black) are in the wrong? Or because His Holiness Obama weighed in on yet another State criminal proceeding (jurisdictional overstepping on steroids by the anti-constitutional zealot) with an uninformed, non-sensical observation? Zimmerman should be acquitted. We'll see.

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The nose was not broken.

If the boy did any crimes, oh well, he's already been executed by the vigilante and doesn't have a chance to defend himself against any charges.

The jury is not super quick. That's a good sign that they hadn't already decided on not guilty.

The killer had the gun legally.

He was in violation of the rules of his role as condo watchdog carrying the gun.

He is a man who was clearly not mature enough to handle carrying a gun and it is so tragic that a boy had to pay for that mistake with his life.

If he had just not been a total $%$##$ he would have just waited for the REAL police to do their job and check out the so called suspicious boy.

If you really believe the boy had to be murdered that night, then OK, fair to acquit. I don't see it.

Just because some people might not approve of this murdered teen boy's cultural aspects doesn't mean he and his family doesn't deserve JUSTICE like any other person in America.

The nose was not broken.

If the boy did any crimes, oh well, he's already been executed by the vigilante and doesn't have a chance to defend himself against any charges.

The jury is not super quick. That's a good sign that they hadn't already decided on not guilty.

The killer had the gun legally.

He was in violation of the rules of his role as condo watchdog carrying the gun.

He is a man who was clearly not mature enough to handle carrying a gun and it is so tragic that a boy had to pay for that mistake with his life.

If he had just not been a total $%$##$ he would have just waited for the REAL police to do their job and check out the so called suspicious boy.

If you really believe the boy had to be murdered that night, then OK, fair to acquit. I don't see it.

I'm seeing information regarding the injury to Zimmerman's nose reporting both that it was broken and that it was not broken. The majority of what I have found reads that it was in fact broken. Either way, Zimmerman was assaulted by Martin and at least his nose was severely damaged.

He had a permit to carry. Those are not issued by his condo association. Permits to carry are issued by the local government. Therefore your response is irrelevant.

"Clearly not mature enough to handle carrying a gun"? What is the basis for this statement? The fact that he used the gun to defend himself from an assault? That argument too does not fly.

The 'boy' paid with his life for HIS mistake of assaulting an armed man.

"If he had just not been a total $%$##$ he would have just waited for the REAL police to do their job . . . " - But he didn't wait for the police which, by the way, is NOT a crime.

I don't believe he had to be murdered just as I don't believe Zimmerman had to join the neighborhood watch within his condo association. But he did, and he lawfully followed a 17 year old who made the stupid, deadly mistake of attacking a lawfully armed man instead of going home. It's called responsibility. I would never physically attack someone for following me (even when I was a teenager and felt I could conquer the world). His error in judgment cost him his life.

The issue is should Zimmerman be found guilty for another's foolishness. If one believes in the law the answer is clearly no.

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The murderer acted totally recklessly.

He did NOT announce his role.

He broke the rules of his watch duties, carrying the gun. No, that is not irrelevant to the character of this murderer.

That combination of massive recklessness (among the other things, following when he shouldn't, etc.) created a corpse. Yes, justice will be done with a manslaughter conviction.

Nobody is saying the murder victim was totally innocent. But he is dead. Murdered. It's over for him.

The killer acted as judge, jury, and executioner for him.

The killer ALSO made many mistakes and I believe those mistakes were criminal in nature, resulting in an unneeded death.

So now it is HIS TURN to face the consequences.

The jury is deciding.

I respect the jury.

Whatever they decide or don't decide.

At least 2 witneses testified that Zimmerman's nose was broken including an EMT who was on the scene and said that Zimmerman's nose was "very swollen", on both sides and bleeding, and that he had a laceration on the nose as well as swelling of other places on his face. The left-wing blogs are trying to claim it was not broken because there were no X rays done, despite expert testimony and photos that strongly suggest otherwise.

The murderer acted totally recklessly.

He did NOT announce his role.

He broke the rules of his watch duties, carrying the gun. No, that is not irrelevant to the character of this murderer.

That combination of massive recklessness (among the other things, following when he shouldn't, etc.) created a corpse. Yes, justice will be done with a manslaughter conviction.

Nobody is saying the murder victim was totally innocent. But he is dead. Murdered. It's over for him.

The killer acted as judge, jury, and executioner for him.

The killer ALSO made many mistakes and I believe those mistakes were criminal in nature, resulting in an unneeded death.

So now it is HIS TURN to face the consequences.

The jury is deciding.

I respect the jury.

Whatever they decide or don't decide.

Recklessly? How? He was assaulted and he successfully defended himself.

Where is it codified that he must announce his 'role'?

He was in lawful possession under Florida law to carry a concealed weapon. This issue is not in dispute. He was part of the neighborhood watch. This also is not in dispute.

What 'mistakes' by Zimmerman were 'criminal'? Following Martin was not criminal, nor was his being attacked by Martin a criminal act by Zimmerman. There is nothing else that Zimmerman did other than defend himself - successfully.

You keep going back to Zimmerman's actions of lawfully carrying a concealed weapon and being part of neighborhood watch as 'creating a corpse'. You are incorrect. His being assaulted resulted in the perpetrator's death.

Using your logic - whoever ends up dead is never at fault. So if Martin struck Zimmerman with a fatal blow to Zimmerman, then Martin should be at fault. He would be for assaulting Zimmerman, but not due to Zimmerman's death. It is the act of aggression - the assault that resulted in Martin's death. The proof is as I said before - if I were being followed, I would escape - go home and call 911. I would not attack. And therefore there would not be a death. Would you attack risking the person you were attacking may be armed? It makes no sense.

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Broken or not broken is no excuse for murder.

What resulted in the death of the boy was a GUN discharging into his body, a gun shot by the man being judged at this moment.

You can whine until the cows come home about the murderer's superficial injuries which were basically fully sorted the next day, but consider the injuries of the dead boy. No sorting for those injuries.

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Lets be real for a moment TM is dead and GZ life will never be the same. The liberals have made a national case out of this situation. TM is a pond for the liberal anti gun agenda and an other distraction from the failed policies of the worst potus in American history. Even if GZ is set free the liberals have ruined his life not for TM but for their own selfish reasons

You can whine until the cows come home about the murderer's superficial injuries which were basically fully sorted the next day, but consider the injuries of the dead boy. No sorting for those injuries.

Zimmerman's injuries were likely just the beginning, if he had not stopped the man who viciously attacked him in his tracks. Self defence.

You can whine until the cows come home about the murderer's superficial injuries which were basically fully sorted the next day, but consider the injuries of the dead boy. No sorting for those injuries.

Zimmerman's injuries were likely just the beginning, if he had not stopped the man who viciously attacked him in his tracks. Self defence.

Unless one of the combatants is secretly an Israeli, it seems unlikely that you two will come to an agreement on this.

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It appears based on the time taken for deliberation and this info that the jury will rule either guilty for manslaughter or hang. My current understand is that the jurors were NOT told about how severe the sentencing will be for a manslaughter conviction which of course increases the chances of a manslaughter conviction. There is clearly disagreement on the jury and a majority is pressuring a minority now.

SANFORD, Fla. — The jury in the George Zimmerman trial asked late Saturday for a clarification of the instructions related to manslaughter, the lesser of two charges against the former neighborhood watch volunteer accused of killing an unarmed teenager.

“May we please have clarification on the instructions regarding manslaughter,” Seminole County Circuit Court Judge Debra Nelson read from the jurors’ note before a courtroom that had rapidly filled up with lawyers, reporters and members of the families of Martin and Zimmerman

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The judge’s decision to allow that consideration was a potential blow to the defense: It could give jurors who aren’t convinced that the shooting amounted to murder a way to hold Zimmerman responsible for the killing.

To win a manslaughter conviction, prosecutors must show only that Zimmerman killed without lawful justification.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/zimmerman-trial-jurors-request-clarification-on-manslaughter-instructions/2013/07/13/3a26dbbe-ec0c-11e2-aa9f-c03a72e2d342_story.html

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Lets be real for a moment TM is dead and GZ life will never be the same. The liberals have made a national case out of this situation. TM is a pond for the liberal anti gun agenda and an other distraction from the failed policies of the worst potus in American history. Even if GZ is set free the liberals have ruined his life not for TM but for their own selfish reasons

Zimmerman has not shown proper remorse for the murder. If he walks, he'll be a very rich man. Books, movies, media appearances, he'll be a celebrity for gun loving right wing America. How true his life will never be the same. w00t.gif

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You can whine until the cows come home about the murderer's superficial injuries which were basically fully sorted the next day, but consider the injuries of the dead boy. No sorting for those injuries.

Zimmerman's injuries were likely just the beginning, if he had not stopped the man who viciously attacked him in his tracks. Self defence.

You're buying Zimmerman's lies, hook, line, and sinker. He was losing a normal fight.

You are ignoring all the EVIDENCE to come to the conclusion that matches the way that you wish it had happened. When someone you don't know, suddenly attacks you in the dark of night, breaks your nose and threatens to kill you, it is not a "normal" fight.

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You are ignoring all the EVIDENCE to come to the conclusion that matches the way that you wish it had happened. When someone you don't know, suddenly attacks you in the dark of night, breaks your nose and threatens to kill you, it is not a "normal" fight.

The killer provoked any alleged attack. Of course it was normal fight except for the unfair advantage of the hidden gun of the killer. You can't seriously believe the murder victim was looking to attack a random man while walking home that night for NO REASON!?!

The nose was not broken. No medical action was taken. It was "better" the next day.

Zimmerman's word and ZImmerman's word only about the verbal threat is worthless as evidence. His story kept changing and he never said such a thing early in the investigation. He knew he had to gin it up to hope to save his hide.

Zimmerman did nothing to provoke a fight. Watching a possible criminal is not illegal and not considered provocation under the law.

Three expert witnesses testified that his nose was broken. No one testifed that it was not broken.

Zimmerman's testimony of a verbal threat might be "worthless", but his injuries and Martin's lack of injuries (other than to his fists - from striking Zimmerman) are solid evidence.

Congratulations Americans, if someone punches you in the face, its OK to kill them.

Incredible.

Congratulations Americans, if someone punches you in the face, its OK to kill them.

Incredible.

If you're a cop, you don't even need to wait to be hit. You can kill'em anyway.

Congratulations Americans, if someone punches you in the face, its OK to kill them.

Incredible.

Willful ignorance of the facts is no excuse for stupidity.

The only reason this case came to trial was due to race, which in and of itself is a disgrace.

The earlier meddling by Obama, Sharpton and Jackson came to naught.

Zimmerman is a free man.

You can whine until the cows come home about the murderer's superficial injuries which were basically fully sorted the next day, but consider the injuries of the dead boy. No sorting for those injuries.

Zimmerman's injuries were likely just the beginning, if he had not stopped the man who viciously attacked him in his tracks. Self defence.

You're buying Zimmerman's lies, hook, line, and sinker. He was losing a normal fight.

"You're buying Zimmerman's lies, hook, line, and sinker. He was losing a normal fight."

He was losing, that is until he won. It's called self-defense. And, now he's acquitted as predicted by any sensible THINKING person predicted. Just think Jingthing - you can appropriately say the phrase you have a tendency to over-use - CASE CLOSED.

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“We can live with a jury verdict,” Crump told me four months ago. Tonight, we all have to live with that verdict. That’s our justice system. We don’t have to like the jury’s decision. But we must respect it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/07/13/we-must-respect-the-george-zimmerman-acquittal/

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Congratulations Americans, if someone punches you in the face, its OK to kill them.

Incredible.

Extremely overly-simplistic, inaccurate pronouncements result in flawed conclusions.

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OK, I'm over this.

It's not as if Romney won.

Enjoy yourselves watching the killer of Martin become super rich and a regular Fox News talking head.

Kill a boy -- it's like winning the lottery!

The USA still affords the freedom to bear arms and stand your ground which means even the weak old and frail can stand tall on the face of danger. In Thailand you can be killed simply for looking someone in the eye. I watched a man stoned to death in Indonesia for pick pocketing every place is different and every system of justice works in its own way. Today justice was served on Florida regardless of all the liberal agendas.

OK, I'm over this.

The jury simply followed the law, as much that offends you.

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People in Florida should begin work to CHANGE the law.

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