Phangan Paragliders Created Uproar By Vandalizing Tree.

[PoorSucker]

Internet users all over Thailand demands the falangs to be arrested.

Apparently it has been done to create a para-gliding business on Phangan.

Authorities are now looking into if it's on private land or in a national park.

The pictures where posted on Pantip.com

Looking at the pictures I can spot offenses against any work permit they might have had.

http://www.pantip.com/cafe/blueplanet/topic/E12655715/E12655715.html

[TheWalkingMan]

Hmmm...

Looks like they are following in the steps of the people doing land grabs and setting up homes/resorts.

[Boater]

are they breaking any laws if they own the land? .... as far as i can see they are only trimming down a tree !, what is the big deal here or am i missing something?

[sbk]

Unlikely they own it. Foreigners cannot own land and large parts of Phangan are national forest.

[robblok]

are they breaking any laws if they own the land? .... as far as i can see they are only trimming down a tree !, what is the big deal here or am i missing something?

How can the farang own the land ?

[Boater]

are they breaking any laws if they own the land? .... as far as i can see they are only trimming down a tree !, what is the big deal here or am i missing something?

How can the farang own the land ?

ok re- phrase, if they lease the land, or directors of a company that own the Land..... as it appears to be a Business that they have

[Boater]

Unlikely they own it. Foreigners cannot own land and large parts of Phangan are national forest.

if it is forest Land, then i can see why the uproar ....

[angiud]

Anyway, in the last few months KPG is watching a great flux of farang, many different nationality, but many French, Russian, Italian and a few East Europe countries, sparkling to do something, dreaming about some business in a tropical island, yadda yadda yadda.

This one seems also a bit idiot to publish the cutting of a tree on a KPG mountain (almost of them being National Park)

Ting tong...

[samuijimmy]

I am not sure about KP but on Samui, one is "supposed" to get a permit, for cutting down larger trees, I forget the minimum caliper size.... even on land that is private.

Posting pictures of the cutting on a web page is probably not a good idea! and who done it too!

Although it is not conclusive that the whole tree was cut down...

Open and shut case if permit needed and "no have"... The authorities will not need Sherlock on this one! !

[John 1]

I am not sure about KP but on Samui, one is "supposed" to get a permit, for cutting down larger trees, I forget the minimum caliper size.... even on land that is private.

Posting pictures of the cutting on a web page is probably not a good idea! and who done it too!

Although it is not conclusive that the whole tree was cut down...

Open and shut case if permit needed and "no have"... The authorities will not need Sherlock on this one! !

You don't need a permit on Samui there are no tree's worth saving, been all cut down by the samuians even the monk's from up the road about 10 years ago wanted our big tree to use at the temple gate had to say so sorry not from my wife's land.

[samuijimmy]

I am not sure about KP but on Samui, one is "supposed" to get a permit, for cutting down larger trees, I forget the minimum caliper size.... even on land that is private.

Posting pictures of the cutting on a web page is probably not a good idea! and who done it too!

Although it is not conclusive that the whole tree was cut down...

Open and shut case if permit needed and "no have"... The authorities will not need Sherlock on this one! !

You don't need a permit on Samui there are no tree's worth saving, been all cut down by the samuians even the monk's from up the road about 10 years ago wanted our big tree to use at the temple gate had to say so sorry not from my wife's land.

Sorry John1 ... that is not true, you do need a permit, my landlord has a large tree on his property which could fall with the next flood on to a house he owns and is rented out... he's mentioned several times he has to get a permit... he's not got around to it yet.. I suspect the tree will fall first.....

The permit office is in Nathon....next to the Police station, I have heard that from others too...

You need to get out more, there are many trees on Samui, that are worth saving....

[sbk]

Unlikely they own it. Foreigners cannot own land and large parts of Phangan are national forest.

if it is forest Land, then i can see why the uproar ....

Showed DH the link and it looks like the sunrise side overlooking Hadrin, pretty sure that far up it is National forest land.

And note, this is not on Samui but Phangan which still has alot of forest left and many massive old trees that are valued. I recall about 20 years ago English guy acquired some land on the east side on one of the (then isolated) bays, cut down a massive old tree there much to the dismay of people. Business failed to even get started and he was killed in a car accident shortly thereafter. Locals called it karma.

[John 1]

I am not sure about KP but on Samui, one is "supposed" to get a permit, for cutting down larger trees, I forget the minimum caliper size.... even on land that is private.

Posting pictures of the cutting on a web page is probably not a good idea! and who done it too!

Although it is not conclusive that the whole tree was cut down...

Open and shut case if permit needed and "no have"... The authorities will not need Sherlock on this one! !

You don't need a permit on Samui there are no tree's worth saving, been all cut down by the samuians even the monk's from up the road about 10 years ago wanted our big tree to use at the temple gate had to say so sorry not from my wife's land.

Sorry John1 ... that is not true, you do need a permit, my landlord has a large tree on his property which could fall with the next flood on to a house he owns and is rented out... he's mentioned several times he has to get a permit... he's not got around to it yet.. I suspect the tree will fall first.....

The permit office is in Nathon....next to the Police station, I have heard that from others too...

You need to get out more, there are many trees on Samui, that are worth saving....

I know a permit is needed to cut big tree's down but it's just a formality somebullshit it will fall on a house or other excuse and it can be cut. I get around a lot and have seen much all over the island and just trying to say in reality there is very little left. Even up in the mountains still cutting if you look from Maenam side you will see the bulldozing they did a few months back up near the top it's above the golf course left side.

[BigC]

It is unbelivable

firstly they cut these trees down the second thing is that they post pictures of them selves showing it off

idiots!

[limbos]

The tree below is being cut right now, at this moment at our neighbors land in Plai Laem. Seemingly a 100 year old, 10-15 meter tall tamarind tree. I seriously doubt that a permission is asked for or is issued.

[carmine]

Whilst i agree that it is totally wrong to have cut this tree down i find it strange that locals can be in such uproar about this yet are perfectly happy to leave their once paradise island strewn with garbage because many just cant be bothered to put it in a bin. Just seems rather hypocritical.

[samui34samui]

According to Samui Cable TV news yesterday night, the picture has been taken 5 years ago?! They were saying that the people in the picture are not in Thailand anymore.

Edited September 22, 2012 by Rooo
removed wrong link

[Rooo]

According to Samui Cable TV news yesterday night, the picture has been taken 5 years ago?! They were saying that the people in the picture are not in Thailand anymore.

The pictures are dated 15th September 2555.

[tinfoilhat]

I think the irony here is every time we have tried to have a tree topped on our property for view, we have to be on hand to oversee ot, because the locals will simply butcher it killing the tree.

Similarly, when we built, we had to be on hand to make sure only the trees in thee foorprint of the house were affected, and made sure the house was sited to limit that number yet further. The contractors wanted to bring a backhoe in to knock ALL trees on the property down. We forbade a backhoe on site altogether and now the house is surrounded by the natural vegetation that was always there.

There is no small amount of hypocrisy in this outpouring of outrage.

Edited September 22, 2012 by tinfoilhat

[limbos]

Final bits of the tree going down this afternoon

Job well done!

[tinfoilhat]

unforgivable. Foreign or Thai property owners?

This is what happens when you ask a local company to take a little off the top to improve the view.

[limbos]

Thai land owners and they live there. Most likely the idea was indeed to cut down the whole tree. Just can't wait to see what they're going to build........ Yeah, right.