cheeryble Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) People have been saying that Romney has no chance for many months now and the race is still almost even. With unemployment at over 8%, a 16 trillon debt and Obama's Middle East policy in tatters, he has a darn good chance of winning Ah so unemployment is slowly falling in the right direction? Way less Americans killed and way less money wasted. That's a ME policy tatters? On a note of interest to all Michael Lewis spent many days with the POTUS and speaks on GPS to Fareed Zakaria. He sounds extremely impressed in a thoughful way and, importantly for me, said Obama has no false front.....which separates him from Willard straight away! Edited September 19, 2012 by cheeryble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 People have been saying that Romney has no chance for many months now and the race is still almost even. With unemployment at over 8%, a 16 trillon debt and Obama's Middle East policy in tatters, he has a darn good chance of winning Ah so unemployment is slowly falling in the right direction? Four people are giving up and dropping out of the workforce for every new job created. That is not the right direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I like Biden. He's actually very sharp, charismatic and a good speaker. Late night talk show hosts like to poke fun at him because he makes a slight gaffe every 8 months or so. It's like looking at a lion and saying it's a hare because it has a chipped claw on its paw. I don't yet know Ryan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 People have been saying that Romney has no chance for many months now and the race is still almost even. With unemployment at over 8%, a 16 trillon debt and Obama's Middle East policy in tatters, he has a darn good chance of winning Ah so unemployment is slowly falling in the right direction? Way less Americans killed and way less money wasted. That's a ME policy tatters? On a note of interest to all Michael Lewis spent many days with the POTUS and speaks on GPS to Fareed Zakaria. He sounds extremely impressed in a thoughful way and, importantly for me, said Obama has no false front.....which separates him from Willard straight away! Doesn't it make one wonder where Fareed plagiarized his work from though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koheesti Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 After Romney's true colours slipped out, all Obama had to do was turn up and smile to be honest. Romney is rightfully going to get slaughtered for his comments, and you can't even argue that they were taken out of context. This election is virtually over. Obama is going to destroy Romney in the debates, the only saving grace is that Ryan will probably run rings around Biden, but people are not voting for vice president. Biden is a streetfighter. His strategy will be to connect with the bllue collar and eldery voters. Slips of the tongue and Yogi Berra type statements humanize him. His job is to grab as many of those voters as possible. Something a young whipper snapper like Ryan can't do. No one likes to see an old guy get ridiculed or beat up on. Biden will deliver because he is easier to connect to at an emotional level. Most everyone has a relative like him in the family and can understand him. All Biden has to do is to keep up with Ryan and he'll have done his job. The experienced uncle taking on the sharp kid. Family dynamics in action. I agree that Ryan will need to be careful. He is obviously head and shoulders above Biden IQ-wise and understanding the issues. But, you're right, no one wants to see their funny uncle with Alzheimers beaten up on in public. Ryan will have to be very careful to put Biden in his place (in the corner wearing the dunce hat) while showing respect. It will be tricky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) Issues be damned. There's going to be a lot people going into the polling booth and when they see a certain name they're going to think of that poor dog in a box strapped to the roof of a car traveling 50 mph, so scared it has the shites. Edited September 19, 2012 by bendejo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Issues be damned. There's going to be a lot people going into the polling booth and when they see a certain name they're going to think of that poor dog in a box strapped to the roof of a car traveling 50 mph, so scared it has the shites. After Romney's comments, they are going to be thinking "Well at least one person gives a shit about me, and it isn't Romney". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Issues be damned. There's going to be a lot people going into the polling booth and when they see a certain name they're going to think of that poor dog in a box strapped to the roof of a car traveling 50 mph, so scared it has the shites. They will also have to consider the fact that Al Qaeda is alive and GM is half dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Issues be damned. There's going to be a lot people going into the polling booth and when they see a certain name they're going to think of that poor dog in a box strapped to the roof of a car traveling 50 mph, so scared it has the shites. After Romney's comments, they are going to be thinking "Well at least one person gives a shit about me, and it isn't Romney". At least the Romneys didn't have rover for their dinner entree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Still, Romney's Foreign Policy credentials continue to dribble further round the U-bend: Further secret filming showed the presidential candidate completely dismiss Middle East peace talks. He said: "I look at the Palestinians not wanting to see peace anyway, for political purposes, committed to the destruction and elimination of Israel, and these thorny issues, and I say there's just no way. "You move things along the best way you can. You hope for some degree of stability, but you recognise that this is going to remain an unsolved problem -- and we kick the ball down the field and hope that ultimately, somehow, something will happen and resolve it." I'd say this is Romney stating the Emperor has no clothes on, which everyone knows but nobody till now had the spine to spell out. A conviction politician versus the human weather vane, the choice could hardly be clearer, lucky for Obama that the MSM are working 24/7 to dig the dirt on his opponent while giving him a free pass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarky66 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 After Romney's true colours slipped out, all Obama had to do was turn up and smile to be honest. Agreed. However being honest in not in his (obama) DNA. Wish I could elaborate but not allowed on this board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Obama had time to go on the Letterman show but apparently no time in his schedule to meet Binyamin Netanyahu to discuss what to do about the existential threat a U.S ally faces from a genocidal and insane Iranian regime who are very close to obtaining a nuclear bomb. Obama's perspective and evaluation of certain situations might be differ from yours. what's there to discuss anyway? Obama knows what "Bibi" wants I'm sure Obama's perspective does indeed differ from mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) People have been saying that Romney has no chance for many months now and the race is still almost even. With unemployment at over 8%, a 16 trillon debt and Obama's Middle East policy in tatters, he has a darn good chance of winning Ah so unemployment is slowly falling in the right direction? Four people are giving up and dropping out of the workforce for every new job created. That is not the right direction. That's a nasty sounding selective statistic that's been going round. What does "created" mean exactly in this context? More importantly how many are entering employment compared to how many leaving since the depth of the crisis which was dumped on Obama (which crisis sadly but undoubtedly set up the conditions for people to leave the workforce all together which Republicans are now complaining about)? Obviously more are entering as unemployment's down from 10% to 8%. Once again, it's clear where the blame lies. Look at a ten year unemployment chart and you,ll see that when Obama came in unemployment was absolutely rocketing already. The rise continued, gradually reducing in momentum to zero a year later. Are you seriously blaming Obama for the mistakes of previous administrations and conditions? Look at http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate Edited September 20, 2012 by cheeryble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Cut the silly attempt at spin. That statistic was put out in the government jobs report. It is simply a fact and nothing else. Edited September 20, 2012 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Cut the silly attempt at spin. That statistic was put out in the government jobs report. It is simply a fact and nothing else. Ah you answered before I added my last paragraph so I'll repeat it: Once again, it's clear where the blame lies! Or at least where it doesn't lie.. Look at a ten year unemployment chart and you,ll see that when Obama came in unemployment was absolutely rocketing already and had been for some time. The rise continued, gradually reducing in momentum until peaking a year later. Are you seriously blaming Obama for what are the obvious mistakes of previous administrations and conditions? Look at it here and adjust to ten years http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate No spin....which is a fine accusation from someone comparing apples ("created" jobs) with oranges (dropped out of workforce).....that one must have come from Republican Party Creativity Dept. Just measured fact, people entering or leaving employment, apples and apples....and it's falling. Edited September 20, 2012 by cheeryble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theslime Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I watched Letterman and Obama and being an Aussie would vote for them both iffen I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Once again, it's clear where the blame lies! Or at least where it doesn't lie.. More spin. Obama has had four years to clean up the mess like he said that he would. Edited September 20, 2012 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhfarang Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 No American President since WWII has ever been re-elected with a jobless rate this high and with the economy in this much trouble. Voters have always had a tendency to give the other side a try when things are even close to this bad. If Obama is re-elected it will just prove three things. Today's Americans are disengaged and it is now just a popularity contest, the media controls who wins by who they mostly promote, and finally, the Republicans were not able to put up a strong enough candidate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Obama had time to go on the Letterman show but apparently no time in his schedule to meet Binyamin Netanyahu to discuss what to do about the existential threat a U.S ally faces from a genocidal and insane Iranian regime who are very close to obtaining a nuclear bomb. Obama's perspective and evaluation of certain situations might be differ from yours. what's there to discuss anyway? Obama knows what "Bibi" wants I'm sure Obama's perspective does indeed differ from mine. It's abundantly clear that members of this administration couldn't even lie straight in bed Al-Qaeda Attack Harms Claims of Libya War 'Victory' http://news.antiwar....litical-choice/ Edited September 20, 2012 by Asiantravel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Once again, it's clear where the blame lies! Or at least where it doesn't lie.. More spin. Obama has had four years to clean up the mess like he said that he would. So you think that you throwing out a misleading apples and oranges "statistic" is OK but my posting an officially compiled chart and suggesting an interpretation is "spin". Perhaps in my interpretation? OK you tells what the chart says.... http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate again, you"ll note the rocket launch in unemployment starting way per Obama and being halted in a year then dropping. As you're so critical do Obama the courtesy of telling us how you would have arrested unemployment's rise in less han that year. Thankyou. Edited September 20, 2012 by cheeryble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) I hate to have to say 'told you so' after election day, so I'll say it before the election: Obama's going to win, by a large margin. Romney 8% points behind Obama this morning, according to NPR. If you think the Obama haters are cranking out the garbage now, wait until Michelle Obama announces her intentions, sometime before 2016. Rush Limbaugh will be frothing at the mouth, and Donald Trump will devote all his calories to demanding she show the birth certificates for all her ancestors, going back seven generations. Edited September 20, 2012 by maidu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Issues be damned. There's going to be a lot people going into the polling booth and when they see a certain name they're going to think of that poor dog in a box strapped to the roof of a car traveling 50 mph, so scared it has the shites. They will also have to consider the fact that Al Qaeda is alive and GM is half dead. Half dead? Well it seems to be a rather potent semi dead entity then; GM earned $7.6 billion in 2011, and another $3.25 billion in the first half of 2012, largely on the strength of its leaner North American operations. GM is reporting results sooner this year. a week before the election. Analysts expect that GM will again show a large-enough profit in North America that will more than offset a loss in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) 8/15/2012 @ 6:24PM |782,025 views General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again President Obama is proud of his bailout of General Motors. That’s good, because, if he wins a second term, he is probably going to have to bail GM out again. The company is once again losing market share, and it seems unable to develop products that are truly competitive in the U.S. market. http://www.forbes.co...nkruptcy-again/ Edited September 20, 2012 by Ulysses G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Romney 8% points behind Obama this morning, according to NPR. Not according to all the other polls. Wednesday, September 19, 2012 The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 46% of the vote. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided. See daily tracking history. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post teatree Posted September 20, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2012 It's sad that a US president appears on some shallow entertainment fluff and most people think its totally normal. It's getting more and more like the film 'Idiocracy' every year. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 It's sad that a US president appears on some shallow entertainment fluff and most people think its totally normal. It's getting more and more like the film 'Idiocracy' every year. Actually, it wasn't "entertainment fluff" at all. It was carefully crafted and conceived by both Obama camp and Letterman. I downloaded the entire show, and it was ENTIRELY an interview with Obama, on what is normally a late night comedy entertainment show. This was obviously Letterman's campaign contribution to Obama, picked carefully to coincide with the release of Romney's huge gaffe of 47% of Americans being deadbeats. Between Leno and Letterman, they draw millions of people and that is a good platform if you can get it. Letterman basically spoon-fed Obama rehearsed questions and let Obama roll. I think it was quite a coup for Obama. Romney appeared on Leno briefly, but nobody is going to give Romney a whole show! it would put everyone to sleep at late night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) As you're so critical do Obama the courtesy of telling us how you would have arrested unemployment's rise in less han that year. I'm not the one who made all the false claims in order to get elected. Obama IS. Edited September 20, 2012 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 They both are. They're politicians, remember? Politicians and truth are not close friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Maybe, but in Obama's case there is proof that he did not do what he said he would do. Obama has had four years to clean up the mess like he said that he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Letterman basically spoon-fed Obama rehearsed questions and let Obama roll. I think it was quite a coup for Obama. I'm sure all those people sitting at home with no jobs and no money were very impressed by the man who is responsible yucking it up with Letterman instead of doing his job. Edited September 20, 2012 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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