Popular Post patsfangr Posted March 13, 2013 Popular Post Posted March 13, 2013 I went for renewal of my 5-year driver's license today. When it was all over, and I reflected upon it, I was pleasantly surprised by the relative ease of the process. I got there at about 0800, and waited at the door of the building for the 0830 opening. They opened the doors at about 0820 (yes, EARLIER than posted), and I got my ticket, #105, for the "foreigners" group. The numbers began at 100. They started calling the numbers to go up to the 2nd floor at 0830. It was about 0840 when my number was posted on the sign. Upstairs, they checked my paperwork, and I learned that you need copies of BOTH sides of your expiring license. A quick trip outside to the shop across the way, and a 2 baht fee later, I was back upstairs. (By the way, what is needed for a 5-year renewal is copies of your passport pages - front and visa, a copy of your current 5-year license - front AND back, and the original of the Residence Certificate that you have to get from Immigration prior to going for the renewal. You will NOT need a medical certificate, as previously required.) After getting the OK on my paperwork, I was given a red card for the next station. At that station, I was immediately sent to the small testing area (an open cubicle of about 10' x 10') where about 20 people are lined up along 2 sides for testing. The tests run were: 1. Color chart - the girl points a stick to circles of red, green, and yellow; and you must say which color each circle is. 2. Peripheral color vision - you put your chin on a box, look at a yellow dot in front of you, and identify the colors she flashes on each side of your head. 3. A depth perception test - you hold a box, with red and green buttons on it, look at the box in front of you that has 2 "sticks", one red, one yellow. She starts movement of the red stick from the back to the front, and you press the green button when you believe the 2 to be parallel. 4. A reaction test - you step on an "accelerator" pedal, and, in a couple of seconds, a row of green lights starts to move up. You must move from the accelerator to the brake pedal to stop the lights before they reach the top of the scale. After passing those 4 tests, I was sent to a "Training Room", with a TV up front that is running a video of driving rules. In fact, this is obviously just a waiting area to allow them to enter the information onto your new license card, minus the photo. A bit later, regardless of how much of the video you've seen, they call you out to pay your fee (605 baht), and give you a ticket to await your photo. When called, you enter the cubicle for your photo, they take the picture, and have you wait outside. A couple of minutes later, they call you back in, and give you your new license and receipt for payment. DONE! In my case this morning, the total time from entry to exit of the building was about 1 hour and 50 minutes. Not bad, considering that TIT! Oh, by the way, the new license is very nice. Good plastic stock, and very attractive appearance. 23 1 1 5
Spalpeen Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 Just wondering. Is this more or less the process that Thai nationals go through to get a licence, or do they have to demonstrate an ability to drive a car? A guy I know who drives a baht bus was hit from behind by a Thai woman driver. He thought it was funny that her driving licence was just one day old. 1 1 1
LennyW Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 Seriously????? Another driving licence thread 1 1 2
Popular Post Bosse137 Posted March 13, 2013 Popular Post Posted March 13, 2013 Seriously????? Another driving licence thread Hmm,if I had read many licence threads before,I would not care to read this one as well.. Since I have not,I found it informative,thanks! 12 1 3
Popular Post gmac Posted March 14, 2013 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2013 Seriously????? Another driving licence thread Hmm,if I had read many licence threads before,I would not care to read this one as well.. Since I have not,I found it informative,thanks! The thing about forums is that although many subjects appear to get done to death, there are always those who need up to date information and who welcome a rehash of an old subject. My licences run out in 2015 and I certainly don't want to have to search through 5 year old threads for out of date information when the time comes. OP, well done and keep up the good work. 28 2 1 1 3
craigt3365 Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Just a quick note, if you have a one year temporary license and need to get a 5 year permanent license, you will need a medical report. Wifey just did it 2 weeks ago and it was required. I'm off to do mine today so will report back on this also. And yes, the tests are exactly the same for Thais and foreigners. I guess you use to be able to get your license in a variety of ways before ( ), but not now. Seems they are cracking down on this a bit. But just because you pass their easy tests doesn't mean you can drive well! 2
JaiLai Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 If you already have a one year license can you change to 5 year if you're only on a 30 day tourist visa? Likewise, if you're renewing 5 year license can you renew it if you're only on 30 day tourist visa?
topt Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 If you already have a one year license can you change to 5 year if you're only on a 30 day tourist visa? Likewise, if you're renewing 5 year license can you renew it if you're only on 30 day tourist visa? 1 - no - I tried very hard when I renewed my one year last year but no way without a longer visa and probably a 1 year type. (I think you mean a visa waiver stamp?) Just had to get another 1 year. 2 - not sure but would imagine same as above although you may get away with it by mistake.
Rimmer Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Seriously????? Another driving licence thread I know and they are all saying the same thing just slightly differently, So lets pin this thread for the FIVE YEAR renewal topics and try to at least keep that one in one place. Using this one because the topic title makes instant sense. 2
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 And yes, the tests are exactly the same for Thais and foreigners. I guess you use to be able to get your license in a variety of ways before ( ), but not now. Seems they are cracking down on this a bit. You dont have to do the actual driving test or multiple choice exam if you are getting a 1-year car licence issued based on sight of a valid farang licence. You do have to do the sight and reflex tests though. 1
craigt3365 Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 I know this isn't related to renewal of a 5 year license, but went yesterday to get my first 5 year license as my 1 year temporary one expired. Got to the LTO about 11:10. Did the color and reflex tests within 10 minutes (seemed as they were in a hurry as many mistakes were made and they were just shrugged off...completely different from when I first got my 1 year temporary license.). Went over and paid the fees, waited about 40 minutes for the pictures and card and was out around 12:10 or so. Not bad! Medical report was required.
yoslim Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Hello, I'm soon to renew my car and motorbike driving licences, I currently have 1 year licences and should get five years as this time I'm on a non imm visa. Do I need two residency certificates or will be one original and a copy be enough ?
craigt3365 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Hello, I'm soon to renew my car and motorbike driving licences, I currently have 1 year licences and should get five years as this time I'm on a non imm visa. Do I need two residency certificates or will be one original and a copy be enough ? I just did this. Needed 2 medical certs and 2 residency certs. Ouch! 400B for the latter 2. For the medical ones, the place I went filled out 2 forms for the same price. 100B.
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Hello, I'm soon to renew my car and motorbike driving licences, I currently have 1 year licences and should get five years as this time I'm on a non imm visa. Do I need two residency certificates or will be one original and a copy be enough ? I just did this. Needed 2 medical certs and 2 residency certs. Ouch! 400B for the latter 2. For the medical ones, the place I went filled out 2 forms for the same price. 100B. I went with someone a couple of months ago who was doing exactly this and he used just one original of each and one copy. As long as the counter clerk can see both the original and the copy at the same time they were perfectly happy to keep the original for one application and the copy for the other application. I think they wrote something on the copy but I have no idea what. Of course the goalposts may have moved since. 1
yoslim Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Thanks, I'll go with one form and a copy then. I can always go back to immigration if they don't accept the copy
craigt3365 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 I was there the day before and forgot to get the residency cert. The lady told my wife I needed 2. Wifey complained a bit, but the clerk said one was needed for each license. As you say, you never know. But having to go all the way back to Jomtien and back would probably cost you 200B in gas in case it doesn't work. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what happens. Can you post your experience here? Thanks!
yoslim Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 I was there the day before and forgot to get the residency cert. The lady told my wife I needed 2. Wifey complained a bit, but the clerk said one was needed for each license. As you say, you never know. But having to go all the way back to Jomtien and back would probably cost you 200B in gas in case it doesn't work. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what happens. Can you post your experience here? Thanks! I drive around on motorbike so gas cost isn't an issue but going to immigration is so i'm in doubt now, two conflicting reports.. It's a tough gamble, overpaying 200 baht or taking risk to spend hours in the jomtien hell I'll report once it's done
craigt3365 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 I was there the day before and forgot to get the residency cert. The lady told my wife I needed 2. Wifey complained a bit, but the clerk said one was needed for each license. As you say, you never know. But having to go all the way back to Jomtien and back would probably cost you 200B in gas in case it doesn't work. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what happens. Can you post your experience here? Thanks! I drive around on motorbike so gas cost isn't an issue but going to immigration is so i'm in doubt now, two conflicting reports.. It's a tough gamble, overpaying 200 baht or taking risk to spend hours in the jomtien hell I'll report once it's done When are you planning to go? I can have my wife call there in the AM and see if she can get an answer? Plus, I'll probably be back there on Tuesday or Wednesday as I've got those lousy license places that crack and peel. They told me for 100B I can get new ones. Of course, didn't have all the paperwork the last time I was there...so have to go again.
yoslim Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 My licences expire early April so I was thinking of getting it done next week. Would be really nice if your wife can get the information
patsfangr Posted March 17, 2013 Author Posted March 17, 2013 My suggestion would be to pay the extra 200 baht to get 2 Residence Certs at Immigration, and make a copy of one. When you sign in at the LTO, TRY to get by with one original, and one copy. Then, at least, you can let everybody know if that works. If it doesn't, you'll have the other original ready to go, and avoid a revisit to Immigration. 1
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 I was there the day before and forgot to get the residency cert. The lady told my wife I needed 2. Wifey complained a bit, but the clerk said one was needed for each license. Do you mean that you forgot to get a residency certificate at all or just forgot to get the second one? I can see there being a different response from the clerk depending on whether you show no residence certificate or show one and say "I forgot the second". Or the goalposts could indeed have moved since a couple of months ago.
craigt3365 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 I was there the day before and forgot to get the residency cert. The lady told my wife I needed 2. Wifey complained a bit, but the clerk said one was needed for each license. Do you mean that you forgot to get a residency certificate at all or just forgot to get the second one? I can see there being a different response from the clerk depending on whether you show no residence certificate or show one and say "I forgot the second". Or the goalposts could indeed have moved since a couple of months ago. I forgot to get even one. Thought I could use my house paperwork. No luck. Tried hard. IHATE dealing with Jomtien immigration. She asked if I was getting 2 licenses, I said yes. She said to get 2 residency certs. One for each license. So...I got 2! Home -> Land transport office -> Immigration -> Home -> Land transport office -> Home -> Land Transport office -> Home (for the final time...hopefully). Whew.
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 IHATE dealing with Jomtien immigration. She asked if I was getting 2 licenses, I said yes. She said to get 2 residency certs. One for each license. So...I got 2! That explains it. Jomtien immigration want you to buy as many as possible of these as they get to keep the money! When I got mine a year ago they wanted me to take a second one for a motorbike licence also and I had a hard job convincing her that I really didn't want a motorbike licence at all. I suspect that had you asked the clerk at the licence office how many they wanted it would have saved you 200B (but not the trip!). Live and learn.
craigt3365 Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 IHATE dealing with Jomtien immigration. She asked if I was getting 2 licenses, I said yes. She said to get 2 residency certs. One for each license. So...I got 2! That explains it. Jomtien immigration want you to buy as many as possible of these as they get to keep the money! When I got mine a year ago they wanted me to take a second one for a motorbike licence also and I had a hard job convincing her that I really didn't want a motorbike licence at all. I suspect that had you asked the clerk at the licence office how many they wanted it would have saved you 200B (but not the trip!). Live and learn. It was the clerk at the LTO that told me to get 2 copies from immigration. We argued, but didn't win.
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Sorry, I understood it was Jomtien who told you to get two. They did the same to me. Maybe the licence office has indeed changed the rules again.
Popular Post Jayman Posted March 20, 2013 Popular Post Posted March 20, 2013 My licences expire early April so I was thinking of getting it done next week. Would be really nice if your wife can get the information Might I suggest you go a few days or even weeks after it expires. You will get nearly 6 years validity this way. I speak this from personal experience. They always set you license to expire on your birthday rather than x number of years from the date of issue. Sent from my GT-I9100T 3
Jayman Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I was there the day before and forgot to get the residency cert. The lady told my wife I needed 2. Wifey complained a bit, but the clerk said one was needed for each license. Do you mean that you forgot to get a residency certificate at all or just forgot to get the second one? I can see there being a different response from the clerk depending on whether you show no residence certificate or show one and say "I forgot the second". Or the goalposts could indeed have moved since a couple of months ago. I forgot to get even one. Thought I could use my house paperwork. No luck. Tried hard. IHATE dealing with Jomtien immigration. She asked if I was getting 2 licenses, I said yes. She said to get 2 residency certs. One for each license. So...I got 2! Home -> Land transport office -> Immigration -> Home -> Land transport office -> Home -> Land Transport office -> Home (for the final time...hopefully). Whew. I renewed my 5 year licenses recently and showed my yellow house book and that was gladly accepted instead of the immigration letter. Sent from my GT-I9100T
craigt3365 Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 I was there the day before and forgot to get the residency cert. The lady told my wife I needed 2. Wifey complained a bit, but the clerk said one was needed for each license. Do you mean that you forgot to get a residency certificate at all or just forgot to get the second one? I can see there being a different response from the clerk depending on whether you show no residence certificate or show one and say "I forgot the second". Or the goalposts could indeed have moved since a couple of months ago. I forgot to get even one. Thought I could use my house paperwork. No luck. Tried hard. IHATE dealing with Jomtien immigration. She asked if I was getting 2 licenses, I said yes. She said to get 2 residency certs. One for each license. So...I got 2! Home -> Land transport office -> Immigration -> Home -> Land transport office -> Home -> Land Transport office -> Home (for the final time...hopefully). Whew. I renewed my 5 year licenses recently and showed my yellow house book and that was gladly accepted instead of the immigration letter. Sent from my GT-I9100T I thought that would work also, I had all my house paperwork. Lady just kept pointing to a copy of the residency certification under the glass on the desk. Wifey tried and tried, but no luck. As we know, things can change day to day or worker to worker.
Jayman Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 I was there the day before and forgot to get the residency cert. The lady told my wife I needed 2. Wifey complained a bit, but the clerk said one was needed for each license. Do you mean that you forgot to get a residency certificate at all or just forgot to get the second one? I can see there being a different response from the clerk depending on whether you show no residence certificate or show one and say "I forgot the second". Or the goalposts could indeed have moved since a couple of months ago. I forgot to get even one. Thought I could use my house paperwork. No luck. Tried hard. IHATE dealing with Jomtien immigration. She asked if I was getting 2 licenses, I said yes. She said to get 2 residency certs. One for each license. So...I got 2! Home -> Land transport office -> Immigration -> Home -> Land transport office -> Home -> Land Transport office -> Home (for the final time...hopefully). Whew. I renewed my 5 year licenses recently and showed my yellow house book and that was gladly accepted instead of the immigration letter. Sent from my GT-I9100T I thought that would work also, I had all my house paperwork. Lady just kept pointing to a copy of the residency certification under the glass on the desk. Wifey tried and tried, but no luck. As we know, things can change day to day or worker to worker. Interesting.... So you showed your yellow book which is official "Thai" proof of residence and it was not accepted as such? I guess that day you got a stubborn worker. I too would have been quite upset if they turned me away and made me go pay money at immigration for a letter stating what my official yellow book already does. 1
craigt3365 Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 No yellow book. But pretty much everything else. I have a folder with all the papers. I'll get a yellow book. Sounds like it's a good thing to have.
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