Murder Suspect Escapes To Sweden

[PoorSucker]

The murder suspect Swedish 18-year-old Jonis Mamood escapes to Sweden using his little brother's passport.

The Swede with his girlfriend when arrested.

It is suspected to have been helped by the Muslim insurgents to escape Thailand.
Now he is unlikely to face imprisonment in Southeast Asia.

The Swedish 18-year-old suspected to have stabbed to death a Thais in August last year.

Although his passport was confiscated, he succeeded then leave the country.
According to Police sources the murder suspect might have used his two years younger brother's passport.

He changed his appearance to be more like his brother and to get to Narathiwat province in southern Thailand, an area that Swedish Foreign
Ministry has warned against because of an ongoing insurgency.

Flying from Malaysia

He's hidden by insurgents before he crosses the border to the south with the help of his brother's passport.

He is photographed as everyone else in the passport control.
After crossing the border, he flies from Malaysia to Sweden.

The father and the younger son, who was in Thailand to visit, went to the Swedish embassy and stated that her son lost his passport.
The Embassy contacted the Thai Immigration police looking into passport number - it turns out that the person in question left the country
two days earlier. Yet they issued a new passport.

Swedish foreign department secretive

According to Aftonbladet the 16-year-old brother immediately flew to Sweden from Thailand with his new passport. The father went with a later flight. Swedish foreign department will not disclose any details.

- I can not confirm any details, says Anna Buhre Kervefors, the Ministry's press service.

The 18-year-old is unlikely to be extradited to Thailand because of the death penalty. Something that normally is converted to 45 years of imprisonment or more for foreigners.

Source: translated from Aftonbladet --2013-03-31

Previous thread on ThaiVisa.com

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/574813-swede-fatally-stabs-thai-girlfriends-facebook-friend/

[Lite Beer]

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[Thai at Heart]

Well, it works for Thai murderers to get to Cambodia, so why is anyone surprised about a foreigner doing a runner.

Of course, the next question, is why bail murderers;?

[worgeordie]

Is it that easy to find and contact insurgents in the South?

if so why can, the Govt ., not find them ?

regards Worgeordie

[Almera]

The 18-year-old is unlikely to be extradited to Thailand because of the death penalty.

Let's see is Sweden does a better job than the UK re: Lee Aldhouse.

[grantbkk]

This is a tragedy for sure. Young people ruining there lives for what?

I hope we can get some more information on why Muslim "insurgents" (terrorists) are helping this family out and who in the Thai government is complicit in a murders escape. I know it is common for rich people to get bail for murder but I would "follow the money" and look at the prosecutor and police very closely, just to make sure nothing illegal on their part contributed to the escape. It may not be obvious to the police but there may have been a conspiracy carefully orchestrated by the suspect's family.

The only thing positive to come out of this is that young Mamood may have to spend the rest of his life in Sweden and will not be available to participate in the civil war in the South.

[ggold]

The 18-year-old is unlikely to be extradited to Thailand because of the death penalty.

Let's see is Sweden does a better job than the UK re: Lee Aldhouse.

Maybe you should re read the last couple sentences of the OP!

[londoedan]

Seems hard to fathom that muder suspects can so easily leave the country. It appears to happen fairly regularly e.g. the suspected murderer of a Kiwi in a bar on Soi Diana in Pattaya.

Lets hope the Swede's will send him straight back to face a Thai court and in future the Thai authorities will impose higher bail guarantees for those deemed a flight risk.

[londoedan]

The 18-year-old is unlikely to be extradited to Thailand because of the death penalty.

Let's see is Sweden does a better job than the UK re: Lee Aldhouse.

Maybe you should re read the last couple sentences of the OP!

I thought Mr Aldhouse was returned to Thailand and is currently awaiting trial in a Phuket jail ? Presumably after the UK government received a guarantee that he wouldn't face the death penalty.

[Judo Chop]

This is obviously most embarrassing for the Thai Authorities.

What's the Thai phrase for 'The horse has bolted'?

[Almera]

The 18-year-old is unlikely to be extradited to Thailand because of the death penalty.

Let's see is Sweden does a better job than the UK re: Lee Aldhouse.

Maybe you should re read the last couple sentences of the OP!

Yes, that's one of them.

[IMA_FARANG]

If you read the post you will see that he had the obvious aid of his family.

His mother reported the other son's passport as lost.

His brother agreed with that.

It is not unexpected for the mother to want to protect and help her son. That is instinct and to be expected of the mother.

Irregardless of the fact that the fugitive is a wanted killer, he is also her son ..... and maternal bonds are probably her first concern.

But I doubt that she did this herself .... her family was also involved in the plan and aided the mother.

As for the iinsurgents .... i suspect they are aways in need of money ... and the family probably gave them that.

Family ties were more important for them than anything else.

[asiamint]

Who in there right mind would travel to Narathiwat province, much easier to cross from Satun province on the boat.

It's a very dangerous area.

The province has police/army stops that compare to say somewhere like

Iran.

When the deputy prime minster's son did this trip it was a long time ago

and much easier to get away with then, and he went across through the
jungle.

He would stick out like a sore thumb as no other white people in the

area, who in there right mind would do this.

Classic bullxxxx story, hard ever to know the truth, but it sounds like a

story designed too _________

I wish I could say

[Guest]

What happens if he is not extradited Sweden to Thailand?

Is there going to be a trial without him and then the sentence information from Thai court is given to Swedish authorities, who will put the boy to the prison for a few years?

Or is he a free man?

[BarnicaleBob]

This is a tragedy for sure. Young people ruining there lives for what?

I hope we can get some more information on why Muslim "insurgents" (terrorists) are helping this family out and who in the Thai government is complicit in a murders escape. I know it is common for rich people to get bail for murder but I would "follow the money" and look at the prosecutor and police very closely, just to make sure nothing illegal on their part contributed to the escape. It may not be obvious to the police but there may have been a conspiracy carefully orchestrated by the suspect's family.

The only thing positive to come out of this is that young Mamood may have to spend the rest of his life in Sweden and will not be available to participate in the civil war in the South.

Being that the kid's last name is Mamood a Musluim name, I would suspect that possibility that he had family connections if not religious connections to the insurgents. That could explain the reason for taking that route.

[Sing_Sling]

This is a tragedy for sure. Young people ruining there lives for what?

I hope we can get some more information on why Muslim "insurgents" (terrorists) are helping this family out and who in the Thai government is complicit in a murders escape. I know it is common for rich people to get bail for murder but I would "follow the money" and look at the prosecutor and police very closely, just to make sure nothing illegal on their part contributed to the escape. It may not be obvious to the police but there may have been a conspiracy carefully orchestrated by the suspect's family.

The only thing positive to come out of this is that young Mamood may have to spend the rest of his life in Sweden and will not be available to participate in the civil war in the South.

Being that the kid's last name is Mamood a Musluim name, I would suspect that possibility that he had family connections if not religious connections to the insurgents. That could explain the reason for taking that route.

So, by your logic, every Muslim has connections to the insurgents . . . and are quite happily assisted by said insurgents.

Sounds about as plausible as the Swedes helping me if I murdered a Finn because I am Lutheran . . . and everyone knows how all 1.5 billion Muslims think the same.

Now, it seems the government is even more embarrassed because a dweeby Swede managed to contact and work with insurgents that the government has been trying to find for decades

(Oh, and Malaysia - more Muslims - are complicit as well . . . damn those heathens!)

[mamypoko]

Seek extradition for mommy and daddy

[transam]

Reading the OP it really does open up a few questions for me that l dare not ask here.

[Thai at Heart]

If you read the post you will see that he had the obvious aid of his family.

His mother reported the other son's passport as lost.

His brother agreed with that.

It is not unexpected for the mother to want to protect and help her son. That is instinct and to be expected of the mother.

Irregardless of the fact that the fugitive is a wanted killer, he is also her son ..... and maternal bonds are probably her first concern.

But I doubt that she did this herself .... her family was also involved in the plan and aided the mother.

As for the iinsurgents .... i suspect they are aways in need of money ... and the family probably gave them that.

Family ties were more important for them than anything else.

If you remember the story originally, it was a Misha mash of crime of passion, betrayal and fighting with another Thai boyfriend.

Hardly a cut and died murder.

[moe666]

It is a bit funny how people interpet the same story and leave out or add what suits them. I would recommend that a few posters here go back and re-read the OP.But the family pulled a very good scam on the Swedes as well as Thai Immigration to get their son out of Thailand

[Guest]

It is a bit funny how people interpet the same story and leave out or add what suits them. I would recommend that a few posters here go back and re-read the OP.But the family pulled a very good scam on the Swedes as well as Thai Immigration to get their son out of Thailand

Thai immigration yes. Swedes, probably no. I would guess they were fully aware of the situation.

By the time Sweden embassy was involved, they had to get the brother of the murder suspect out of the country. I believe that is their duty.

[Sing_Sling]

It is a bit funny how people interpet the same story and leave out or add what suits them. I would recommend that a few posters here go back and re-read the OP.But the family pulled a very good scam on the Swedes as well as Thai Immigration to get their son out of Thailand

Thai immigration yes. Swedes, probably no. I would guess they were fully aware of the situation.

By the time Sweden embassy was involved, they had to get the brother of the murder suspect out of the country. I believe that is their duty.

Ah, the plot thickens . . . now it is not only the Muslim insurgents involved but now also the Swedish embassy . . . simply amazing . . . This is better than a Le Carre novel!

(And no - it isn't the embassy's duty to help anyone escape a murder suspect . . . where do you get this rubbish from?)

[Guest]

It is a bit funny how people interpet the same story and leave out or add what suits them. I would recommend that a few posters here go back and re-read the OP.But the family pulled a very good scam on the Swedes as well as Thai Immigration to get their son out of Thailand

Thai immigration yes. Swedes, probably no. I would guess they were fully aware of the situation.

By the time Sweden embassy was involved, they had to get the brother of the murder suspect out of the country. I believe that is their duty.

Ah, the plot thickens . . . now it is not only the Muslim insurgents involved but now also the Swedish embassy . . . simply amazing . . . This is better than a Le Carre novel!

(And no - it isn't the embassy's duty to help anyone escape a murder suspect . . . where do you get this rubbish from?)

Well, it was right there on the OP. It would be beneficial to read the tiny article before posting.

The Embassy contacted the Thai Immigration police looking into passport number - it turns out that the person in question left the country two days earlier. Yet they issued a new passport.

The embassy was not helping the murder suspect, but the brother who "lost" his passport.

[oldsailor35]

This is a tragedy for sure. Young people ruining there lives for what?

I hope we can get some more information on why Muslim "insurgents" (terrorists) are helping this family out and who in the Thai government is complicit in a murders escape. I know it is common for rich people to get bail for murder but I would "follow the money" and look at the prosecutor and police very closely, just to make sure nothing illegal on their part contributed to the escape. It may not be obvious to the police but there may have been a conspiracy carefully orchestrated by the suspect's family.

The only thing positive to come out of this is that young Mamood may have to spend the rest of his life in Sweden and will not be available to participate in the civil war in the South.

Being that the kid's last name is Mamood a Musluim name, I would suspect that possibility that he had family connections if not religious connections to the insurgents. That could explain the reason for taking that route.

This guy's origin is mideastern ....not thai...

I would bet that he is christian too...many christians in the middle east have 'muslim' surnames ....

A Christian with a Muslim name (and nose) being aided and abetted by Muslim terrorists ?.................C'mon get real .

[Fortunate1]

Malaysia - preferred escape route of Iranian bombers and Swedish murderers.

[transam]

As a passport does not belong to the holder, it belongs to the King, Queen or other. l hope the Swedes collar the brother for aiding and abetting a felon. .

[marinediscoking]

This is not an uncommon means by which to escape from thailand for people who get bail. If it is not done with family members passports it is done with friends who have similar appearances and are flown over. I have not heard of this escape done for a murder case though, usually for drug charges.

I think it will be harder in the future, just last week flying into Cambodia they scanned all ten of my fingers and scanned them on the way out along with taking photos. I have seen this starting to happen in other countries as well.

[simple1]

This is a tragedy for sure. Young people ruining there lives for what?

I hope we can get some more information on why Muslim "insurgents" (terrorists) are helping this family out and who in the Thai government is complicit in a murders escape. I know it is common for rich people to get bail for murder but I would "follow the money" and look at the prosecutor and police very closely, just to make sure nothing illegal on their part contributed to the escape. It may not be obvious to the police but there may have been a conspiracy carefully orchestrated by the suspect's family.

The only thing positive to come out of this is that young Mamood may have to spend the rest of his life in Sweden and will not be available to participate in the civil war in the South.

Being that the kid's last name is Mamood a Musluim name, I would suspect that possibility that he had family connections if not religious connections to the insurgents. That could explain the reason for taking that route.

This guy's origin is mideastern ....not thai...

I would bet that he is christian too...many christians in the middle east have 'muslim' surnames ....

A Christian with a Muslim name (and nose) being aided and abetted by Muslim terrorists ?.................C'mon get real .

The OP states he entered Malaysia via a Thai immigration post. Does anyone believe his story that he was able to contact an insurgent cell for assistance, who are notoriously secretive, when he could just use public transport. He has also set himself up for major grief as will likely be interrogated by a national security agency in Sweden to ascertain the truth of his claim.

[Almera]

Malaysia - preferred escape route of Iranian bombers and Swedish murderers.

Yup.

Those of higher class go via Beijing.

[thaicbr]

If you read the post you will see that he had the obvious aid of his family.

His mother reported the other son's passport as lost.

His brother agreed with that.

It is not unexpected for the mother to want to protect and help her son. That is instinct and to be expected of the mother.

Irregardless of the fact that the fugitive is a wanted killer, he is also her son ..... and maternal bonds are probably her first concern.

But I doubt that she did this herself .... her family was also involved in the plan and aided the mother.

As for the iinsurgents .... i suspect they are aways in need of money ... and the family probably gave them that.

Family ties were more important for them than anything else.

If you reread the original story the father was with the younger son but the article said she. Let's face it this article is so full of holes to be almost unreadable.

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