Tilting Building Near Bangkok ' Should Be Demolished'

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Tilting building near Bangkok 'should be demolished'
THE NATION

ONE OF TWO seven-storey dormitories under construction near Zeer Rangsit mall north of Bangkok was declared off limits after it tilted precariously. No injuries were reported.

BANGKOK: -- A seven-storey apartment building under construction at the back of Zeer department store north of Bangkok has been declared off limits, after it tilted and was inspected by local administrators.

Public works officials with Khu Khot Municipality in Pathum Thani, who have jurisdiction over the site, said details about the land owner and firm constructing the building will be announced later. Construction stopped on Sunday night after a verbal warning by public works officials, and owners living by the building filed a complaint with police.

Thanes Weerasiri, head of Engineering Institute of Thailand under HM's Patronage, said the building has tilted at six degrees, and should be demolished, or heightened and rebuilt. The tilting was caused by the foundation not being solid enough, and the stakes unable to manage the total weight. Heightening of the building could cost the project owner the same amount of money needed to demolish and rebuild it.

"Personally I think it should be demolished and rebuilt," he said.

Building had continued until recently, before the inclination became visible on Sunday night, but workers have since been evacuated. Signboards showing details of the project, including its owner, have been removed since the news emerged, except for one notice about the construction firm: Choke Charoen Co Ltd.

The construction continued for more than a year, and it has been extended once, public works chief Nares Srimuang said. He said a civil engineer would soon determine if the builders violated regulations or implemented beyond the conditions originally requested.


-- The Nation 2013-04-02

[Crossy]

Oops!

[Dancealot]

Amazing! I really hope the workers have been evacuated.

[watcharacters]

How would increasing the height of the building be any approach to addressing its tilting?

I obviously missed something.

[pitrevie]

Will anyone be moving into the other building?

[EyesWideOpen]

Nice foundation work..... :-)

[Pimay1]

Nice foundation work..... :-)

I don't suppose they are using the same engineers that were used on this one in Shanghai.

[Katipo]

I'm sure they'll come up with a low cost solution without the need to demolish so the building can be safely occupied within a matter of months

[EyesWideOpen]

Nice foundation work..... :-)

I don't suppose they are using the same engineers that were used on this one in Shanghai.

Not sure if it was that building , but in a photo of a giant Chinese building laying on its side, it showed the concrete foundation pilings were hollow and all snapped off. Will be curious what charges will be leveled against the Thai building department for looking the other way while this poorly designed and constructed building was being completed...Oh sorry just dreaming, time to get back to the real world !!

[Pimay1]

Nice foundation work..... :-)

I don't suppose they are using the same engineers that were used on this one in Shanghai.

Not sure if it was that building , but in a photo of a giant Chinese building laying on its side, it showed the concrete foundation pilings were hollow and all snapped off. Will be curious what charges will be leveled against the Thai building department for looking the other way while this poorly designed and constructed building was being completed...Oh sorry just dreaming, time to get back to the real world !!

Yes that is the same building with the hollow pilings with no rebar to boot. Link below.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/13-story-buliding-collapse-china.shtml

[EyesWideOpen]

Nice foundation work..... :-)

I don't suppose they are using the same engineers that were used on this one in Shanghai.

Not sure if it was that building , but in a photo of a giant Chinese building laying on its side, it showed the concrete foundation pilings were hollow and all snapped off. Will be curious what charges will be leveled against the Thai building department for looking the other way while this poorly designed and constructed building was being completed...Oh sorry just dreaming, time to get back to the real world !!

Yes that is the same building with the hollow pilings with no rebar to boot. Link below.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/13-story-buliding-collapse-china.shtml

That's the one !!! The link shows great footage of the hollow pilings. However with the mind boggling loss of face for China and its construction industry, China came down pretty hard on the company.

" SHANGHAI - The two top shareholders of a real estate firm responsible for developing the Lotus Riverside residential complex, where a nearly complete building fell to its side last year, were sentenced to life in prison on Wednesday."

Guess no chance of the developers facing charges here !!!!! :-)

You could almost feel sorry for the Chinese developers in prison, with no street cred. At the prison, another life comes up to the developer and asks " Hey buddy, what are you in for ???"

The developer replies " Uhhh uhhhh making bad foundations".... lol

Edited April 2, 2013 by EyesWideOpen

[cycloneJ]

owners living by the building filed a complaint with police.

I suppose there is a special form to fill out for this.

*****

good series of photos and a video here

Edited April 2, 2013 by cycloneJ

[Pimay1]

owners living by the building filed a complaint with police.

I suppose there is a special form to fill out for this.

*****

good series of photos and a video here

I like the safety first sign displayed onsite.

[jamhar]

"Personally I think it should be demolished and rebuilt,"

Duh!

If they were able to "fix it", make the builders live in it.

[EyesWideOpen]

The future >>>>

1. The developers will face no charges for shoddy work

2. The building department will face no charges for looking the other way

3. The building will be quietly fixed on the cheap

4. This story will gently fade away.....

[Thaddeus]

All erections in Thailand are temporary anyway.

[EyesWideOpen]

owners living by the building filed a complaint with police.

I suppose there is a special form to fill out for this.

*****

good series of photos and a video here

I like the safety first sign displayed onsite.

Hahaha I saw that sign too. Maybe it should have been moved to the company offices of whoever was in charge of doing the engineering.... :-)

Really not that hard to fix, just a matter of doing some studying on how the Leaning Tower of Pisa was stabilized. I am not kidding. By ground drilling on the opposite side, they were able to even out the pressure of the subsidence.

[harrry]

All erections in Thailand are temporary anyway.

But some erections last longer than others.

[jocko]

How would increasing the height of the building be any approach to addressing its tilting?I obviously missed something.

They put more floors on at the opposite angle and that would act as a counterweight and balance the structure then it could then just sink in the vertical plane so if you want to sleep there go for a top floor room you might get a few years and you wouldn't need a lift.

Count me out.

[siampolee]

The whole building tilt goes to prove that a mix of, ''Three of sand and one of cement beat Viagra any day in ensuring any erection is upright rigid longstanding monument to the nations building industry's engineering manhood

Edited April 2, 2013 by siampolee

[wayned]

How about the "Crooked House of Windsor" built in 1592 and still standing and in use as a restaurant!

[cycloneJ]

re #18

would that mean the people who bought ground-floor apartments now have a basement apartment?

Hope they get a discount for the loss of view!

Sixth floor becomes fifth and so on.

It'll be demolished if it doesn't self-destruct first.

Edited April 2, 2013 by cycloneJ

[ChrisY1]

It's called "Short Piling"....usually a criminal offence with the engineers and management doing time, although of course...here in Thailand, very little will happen.....builders, town engineers etc., will walk

Happens with some regularity in China, India etc.....

A massive job to repair...better just knock it down, but again.....it'll probably stay there for years.

[Pimay1]

Wasn't there a big high rise hotel built on the Chao Phraya river that started tilting or am I dreaming again?

[jocko]

owners living by the building filed a complaint with police.

I suppose there is a special form to fill out for this.

*****

good series of photos and a video here

I like the safety first sign displayed onsite.

The sign was put up after

I see the safety sign on a lot of new build sites what I don't see is Hard Hats, Safety Boots good Scaffold , Harness, or safe working practices.

[Thai at Heart]

Jengaaaaaa

[JoePai]

Acrow props will sort it

[NeverSure]

How would increasing the height of the building be any approach to addressing its tilting?

I obviously missed something.

Something is lost in translation I think, but there is a way to jack a building like that up and level it. It is then held in place by new steel literally screwed into the ground. They are called helical piers. That steel would remind you of a very large post hole auger for a tractor. They use a bunch of them, and after they are literally screwed deep into the ground, they lift and permanently hold the building.

There is another similar method using jacks that stay in the ground. They are called push piers.

Edited April 2, 2013 by NeverSure

[Nickymaster]

"Personally I think it should be demolished and rebuilt," Thanes Weerasiri, head of Engineering Institute of Thailand under HM's Patronage said.

You think or are you sure Sherlock?

[animatic]

And when it comes down, lets hope NO ONE EVER decides to live in the twin right next to it.

The idea that the footings and ground under the twin is in any better condition is absurd.