Thai gov. to tax (remitted) income from abroad for tax residents starting 2024 - Part II

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Tourist courts to be set up in key sights

English language journalism nowhere in SITE!!!

[Thai at Heart]

Hmmmm...the idea is correct...but we will see just how effective it is overall.

I figure it will eventually get bogged down by all the many cases ranging from small infractions of the law onwards to gross injustices of the law such as rape cases and of course the many murders or suspect of murder cases.

The first injustice that could overwhelm the tourist courts would concern all the many foreigners that get cheated by way of the ongoing 30 year plus "Gem Scam"

That scam continues on, even more prevalent today than it was10 years ago when they tried to crack down on the scams.

Or the jet ski boat rental ripoff which happens everyday going on for 20 years.

Then there is the issue of enforcement.

In most countries when the plaintiff(s) win their case against the defendant(s) it then becomes a far more complicated matter of actually enforcing the court awarded "due compensation"

You may win ...but will you actually be compensated accordingly.

For example: If you are cheated by a Thai or Thai company and you win in court then just how is it you are going to make the Thais or the Thai company compensate you accordingly.

What is going to compell them to actually compensate you in the manner that the court has decided.

I hardly think the courts and or the law enforcement agencies are going to actually put Thai people in jail or prison if and when they do not abide by the court rulings.

It will be corrupted for sure with pay offs on the side while all too often the foriegners will be threatened and or extorted when the Thais are actually pressed to abide by the court rulings and compensate a "foriegner".

Some will be compensated but I am sure most cases will be left in limbo and the plantiffs will come to realise they were just wasting their time trying to receive compensation, although the courts ruled in their favour.

It is an offence not to abide by a court order. Just means you will have to go back through the courts again.

Better plan for a very long stay then.

[Thai at Heart]

Up Side - Down Side.

The Up Side - Thai will see this as something to improve their image to show they are working to resolve civil and criminal complaints by tourists.

The Down Side - They won't see this as something the rest of the world will see as to WHY do "special courts" have to be set up to resolve so many civil and criminal complaints by foreigners?

Companies here don't even pay liability to Thais. Does anyone really believe they will pay to farangs?

[gemguy]

well first of all

if it gets to court the judge normally orders the plaintiff and the defendant to go into another room and negotiate it out

if they cant then they go back to the judge and let him/her make judgement

the translations are near enough - its the paperwork that decides most things - there is no jury system and so less of the grey area to work in

i can tell you there is a very beautiful woman Thai judge in Pattaya (Jomtien) and I love watching her work.

Is she one of the "key sights?"

That is most likely what will evolve and or "middle men" and "fixers" and "problem resolvers" step in to smooth over the case for a "consulting fee' and both parties ageee to settle out of court.

[timewilltell]

Here is the key:

'The priority will be on improving safety for tourists and investigating complaints against travel agencies.'

The Thai legal system needs a thorough overhaul and I don;t see this achieving much really. So the Jetski scum is found guilty and the tourist wastes two days in court to receive exactly what?

[chooka]

Here is the key:

'The priority will be on improving safety for tourists and investigating complaints against travel agencies.'

The Thai legal system needs a thorough overhaul and I don;t see this achieving much really. So the Jetski scum is found guilty and the tourist wastes two days in court to receive exactly what?

A nice warm fuzzy feeling and a friendly wai and smile from the jet ski operator. Now won't that be worth giving up a few days of your holiday for? You couldn't buy that back home.

[rbrooks]

Welcome to the Land of Smiles and we hope you enjoy your stay. For your conveniance we have established user friendly tourist courts. Our friendly criminal element will greet you at the airport where you can choose an array of assaults, roberries or method of murder. You and your assailant when then be whisked of to court where the incident will be finalised.

If you are staying longer than a week please feel free to book you mugging online at www.muggersrus.com.th

You will be required to pay compesation to our muggers or thier families if they are offended or hurt during the service. An administration fee will also be charged by our law enforcement agents.

That's right and this country's target income will be exceeded with these dummy courts set up just for farangs. After the farangs are fleeced of their valuables we will take more in court costs and lawyer fees while they are still in country.

[jbrain]

I met a lady afew weeks back, who told me she had done an english course in Sydney, I couldn't understand a bloody word she said, except me sayimg what, er no.

So definitely had the course in Australia.

[Loptr]

A good idea on paper but for me there's one very major problem and that is translation in these courts. Where are all the interpreters to come from and a what level, if any will, they be considered competent to speak in court.

I for one would be less than happy to have my words translated by someone who spoke my language but didn't fully understand or as is so common here a Thai operating on what he / she thought I said and even worse what they thought i should have said. I really cannot see standards being set and applicants for jobs tested on their competence as that in itself adds another problem as where do the competent testers come from ?

Court; "How do you plead?"

Farang; "Not Guilty."

Interpreter; "Guilty."

Case proven, take the scum away.

Simply a matter of whether the farang pays on the way into court to file charges against someone else -or- whether the farang pays on the way out of court when found guilty of some infraction. Either way it's a new profit center for the BiB. di mak.

[guzzi850m2]

Tourist courts more likely to be used to prosecute foreigners of all descriptions and send them packing. Wouldn't be surprised to see these used against foreign residents, too. We are not welcome here.

Would that be the collective "we"? or the royal "we"?

I am sure many foreigners both tourists and residents feel welcome here. I know my friends and I do.

Attitude?

You might FEEL welcome, which is probably due to the misconception that the people who take your money actually like you! The like your money and nothing else. Might as well arrive at the airport, drop all your spending money in a big collection tin and get on the next plane home!

Westerners here are about as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit!!

Why are you still here then?

Another super depressed ThaiVisa member.

I don't fell that I am not welcome here, smile and be polite and you are already almost there.

[ratcatcher]

ou might FEEL welcome, which is probably due to the misconception that the people who take your money actually like you! The like your money and nothing else. Might as well arrive at the airport, drop all your spending money in a big collection tin and get on the next plane home!

Would that be the collective "we"? or the royal "we"?

Tourist courts more likely to be used to prosecute foreigners of all descriptions and send them packing. Wouldn't be surprised to see these used against foreign residents, too. We are not welcome here.

I am sure many foreigners both tourists and residents feel welcome here. I know my friends and I do.

Attitude?

Westerners here are about as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit!!

so how many trips a year do you make just to drop-off your money in the collection tin before heading off again and do you class yourself as one of the farts, certainly sounds like it?

I have lived here for 15 years. And I still don't feel like they want us here.

I have lived here for 15 years. And I still don't feel like they want us me here.

[bigbamboo]

It occurs to me that the very notion these courts are needed in what we are all told to believe is smiley, friendly Thailand might actually put off more tourists than it encourages.

[BWPattaya]

"Tourists only stay in the country for a short time," Tourism Minister Somsak Pureesrisak said
yesterday.

Perhaps the most accurate part of the story!

[Chicog]

I'm guessing the lawyers and judges realised that the police and their middlemen are cornering all the profits.

Just a simple rediversion of revenue stream is all.

[belg]

i guess, an extra tax when you land here, to be paid by everyone into a fund... would be nice? 100 b per person... 24 million tourists, or was it more to be expected, minus the usual 30-50% graft

[EyesWideOpen]

Welcome to the Land of Smiles and we hope you enjoy your stay. For your conveniance we have established user friendly tourist courts. Our friendly criminal element will greet you at the airport where you can choose an array of assaults, roberries or method of murder. You and your assailant when then be whisked of to court where the incident will be finalised.

If you are staying longer than a week please feel free to book you mugging online at www.muggersrus.com.th

You will be required to pay compesation to our muggers or thier families if they are offended or hurt during the service. An administration fee will also be charged by our law enforcement agents.

I see this as a potential set up to do the complete opposite. Setup a forum where Thais can easily take foreigners to court so they can be scammed fined and made to pay squeeze money restitution.

I agree , could be sort of like a court based version of what the tourist police do with the jet ski scammers, which is in essence to aid the scammers in getting money, NOT to help the tourist which would seem to be their job.

[blueshark]

Welcome to the Land of Smiles and we hope you enjoy your stay. For your conveniance we have established user friendly tourist courts. Our friendly criminal element will greet you at the airport where you can choose an array of assaults, roberries or method of murder. You and your assailant when then be whisked of to court where the incident will be finalised.

If you are staying longer than a week please feel free to book you mugging online at www.muggersrus.com.th

You will be required to pay compesation to our muggers or thier families if they are offended or hurt during the service. An administration fee will also be charged by our law enforcement agents.

Nice toung and cheek but those of you reading this laughing should be warned that half of it is real!!!

[JLT]

Your spelling and syntax are atrocious

Welcome to the Land of Smiles and we hope you enjoy your stay. For your conveniance we have established user-friendly tourist courts. Our friendly criminal element will greet you at the airport where you can choose from(?) an array of assaults, roberries or method of murder. You and your assailant when then be whisked of to court where the incident will be finalised.

If you are staying longer than a week please feel free to book you mugging online at www.muggersrus.com.th

You will be required to pay compesation to our muggers or thier families if they are offended or hurt during the service. An administration fee will also be charged by our law enforcement agents.