Flight TG669 skids off runway at Suvarnabhumi Airport

[NanLaew]

Not to worry, if it had been an airplane from any other (non-Thai) airline that skidded off the runway, the same 'experts' would be out in force blaming Suvarnabhumi airport and AOT and Thaksin and TAT and LOS and TIT.....

[noitom]

Gotta love these fuzzy news stories......Did the plane veer off the runway which caused the nose to fail of course,

or did the nose gear fail on landing causing the plane to veer off the runway ? Or is spin control already at work....

Never expect real facts or information in a Thai "news story."

[NanLaew]

The only observations I can make from the pictures published so far is the very soft ground that the aircraft rapidly sunk into that probably cause the starboard engine stall and fire. The trench caused by the sinking starboard main gear is water-filled already. Was there heavy rain last night or is this an indication of just how saturated the place is?

Also note how only the port side emergency slides are deployed which to me indicates and well managed and orderly emergency evacuation since the starboard engine was on fire. Regardless of what caused the accident, the flight crew did a top job in handling the aftermath.

[Rimmer]

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[Phronesis]

The outcome here could of been far worse. It would be interesting to here one of the hospitalised victim's stories AFTER the incident to see how the emergency services and staff at the hospital performed.

[Time Traveller]

Quite strange that the 2 'quality' English newspapers have hardly picked up on this , while foreign media have.

They have to pass the Thai censors before anything from them goes to print. Hence if you want to know the truth about this country don't look to any Thai media for that.

[Old Croc]

Funny, I was just reading this this morning:

Leading Cause of Flight Deaths

http://www.watoday.com.au/travel/travel-incidents/leading-cause-of-flight-deaths-pilots-failing-to-abort-landings-20130909-2tf13.html

[Johnnie99]

380 is made by airbus not boeing!!!

Agreed. It does not appear to be an airframe problem but a powerplant one. Let's find out and criticise the engine maker, not the airframe maker.

[itchybum]

It was me stating 2 weeks ago that Thai Airways would have an accident soon.......their safety procedures and crew are not updated.

Good for you....feel better now ?

[Old Croc]

380 is made by airbus not boeing!!!

Agreed. It does not appear to be an airframe problem but a powerplant one. Let's find out and criticise the engine maker, not the airframe maker.

Same goes for the 330.

In the washout, I feel there is more chance it was a hard landing by a crappy pilot.

Edited September 9, 2013 by Old Croc

[Torrens54]

Quite strange that the 2 'quality' English newspapers have hardly picked up on this , while foreign media have.

Do you get a "feeling in your tummy" that those (alleged) "News" Papers don't want to upset their Advertisers? No, that wouldn't happen....would it?

[trainman34014]

Looks like Pilot Error to me....landing too far down the runway so can't stop in time. Can't say things like that though as all the naysayers will be out accusing me of being cleverer than all the aircraft accident experts on the planet and telling me if i don't like Thailand i should go home...yada yada. As if i'm bovvered !

Edited September 9, 2013 by trainman34014

[AjarnMartin]

Why alarm the relatives and friends of passengers on TG669 when the aircraft in question was TG679???? Reporting at its worst... :-)

[Minnehaha]

With the thousands of planes in the air at the same time, it is a testimonial to the safety of the industry that more accidents, malfunctions, or screw ups happen as infrequently as they do. If we saw an article with pictures of every time there was a bad car accident we would all soon realize riding in cars are much more dangerous than planes. Ask yourself how many people do you know who have been in a car accident? How many in a BAD accident? How many in a plane crash?

Here in LOS, this analysis may not apply.

[moe666]

Quite strange that the 2 'quality' English newspapers have hardly picked up on this , while foreign media have.

It probably happened after the press dead line.

[Estrada]

The only observations I can make from the pictures published so far is the very soft ground that the aircraft rapidly sunk into that probably cause the starboard engine stall and fire. The trench caused by the sinking starboard main gear is water-filled already. Was there heavy rain last night or is this an indication of just how saturated the place is?

Also note how only the port side emergency slides are deployed which to me indicates and well managed and orderly emergency evacuation since the starboard engine was on fire. Regardless of what caused the accident, the flight crew did a top job in handling the aftermath.

I flew in there last Sunday, it was definitely very water logged. Then the whole area was once prawn farms. Sounds like a right tyre burst on landing which caused the sparks and the pilot could not handle it.

[fishhooks]

Pilot was probably racing the Lufthansa flight due in at about the same time.

A post not needed at this time. Just wasted space!

[Dr Robert]

Where do you get a flight like this? nothing like being smoked on an aircraft-

[moe666]

Go back and read the story he is not the writer but the President of Thai Airlines. I guess if one is going to pan a article they should know who is who and what they are doing or not

[johnlandy]

What's is happening with Thai Airways? Last time it was at Hong Kong.

Well with 13 derailments so far this year on the northern line TG looks to be entering the competition.

[moe666]

Flight from China the injured were more than likely standing trying to get there luggage out of the overhead.

[SOTIRIOS]

18 years old aircraft ....... thats quite a lot ....

....the average age of Thai Airways airplanes is around 18 years.......not good any more....

[kamahele]

What's is happening with Thai Airways? Last time it was at Hong Kong.

I think the incident on approach to Honk Kong was probably not the fault of Thai. Sounds like they ran into some jet wake from another aircraft which happens often at this stage even though the tower tries to prevent it. Most likely the passengers were just not wearing their seat belts when they were supposed to and went flying about the cabin. When I was a flight attendant I found myself up off the floor on more than one occasion during approach due to jet wake. Luckily my passengers were all buckled in and only the crew was left hanging on for dear life.

[joboss]

Well handled excavation by Cabin Crew and prompt fire control by ground staff. 14 pax injured could be the same ones on every flight that unclip their belts seconds before touch down so they can stand up to get at their overhead luggage.

by CR

[randyoon]

Modern planes are designed to fly with one engine 'not functioning'. This is probably not a Thai Airways problem rather it may have been one of a variety of problems. Bird strike, faulty engine component. This type of incident is not unusual however the good news is that all survived. Remember the Qantas flight out of Singapore a few years ago. Engine malfunctioned yet the crew did a magnificent job of landing a fully loaded 380 boeing safely.

The engine fire was caused by the plane leaving the runway with enough force that the nose gear failed.

Photo here......

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20130908-0

Flight TG-679 landed on runway 19L at 23:26 following a flight from Guangzhou, China. It apparently went off the right side of the runway, causing the nosegear to fail. The airplane was evacuated.

Reportedly a fire erupted in the right hand engine, which was put out by airport fire services.

Excellent post and description. Leaves no doubt.

[David48]

The engine fire was caused by the plane leaving the runway with enough force that the nose gear failed.

Photo here......

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20130908-0

That's a quality link ... thanks for that ...

[webfact]

THAI plane skids off Suvarnabhumi Airport runway
By English News



BANGKOK, Sept 9 -- A Thai Airways International (THAI) aircraft arriving Bangkok from China skidded off the runway late Sunday night while landing at Suvarnabhumi airport, injuring 13 persons.

Department of Civil Aviation director general Voradej Harnprasert said THAI flight TG 679 Guangzhou-Bangkok left the runway while landing at about 11.30pm.

One engine of the Airbus A330-300 aircraft caught fire after landing, but airport firefighters promptly put out the blaze.

All 288 passengers and 14 crew were safe, but 13 were reported injured in the incident and were sent to a nearby hospital.

THAI president Sorajak Kasemsuvan said the flight left Guangzhou at 9.25pm local time and arrived Suvarnabhumi airport at 11.20pm.

When the plane touched the runway, there was a glitch in the tyre system, causing the aircraft to slip off the runway, sparking the fire in the engine.

The captain successfully stopped the aircraft and passengers were evacuated safely, but with 13 of them receiving injuries.

Rawewan Netrakavesna, Suvarnabhumi Airport general manager, said the airport closed the eastern runway as the aircraft was still where it left the runway. Airports of Thailand (AoT) may consider diverting some flights to Don Mueang Airport to ease congestion.

She said an investigative team from the Civil Aviation Department has arrived the scene to probe the incident.

Ms Rawewan said the airport would evaluate the damage of the runway, but believed it could be fixed in one day. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2013-09-09

[bander]

Lucky the engine only caught-fire on-landing, rather than when taking-off or in-flight.

Maybe the fire happened when they reversing the engines just after landing?

One engine on fire could make the plane turn if it lose all the power on one side

[patjem]

Hmm...12 people injured, some due to smoke inhalation..they do not sound "safe" to me.

Most likely, the injured parties were uncouth Chinese passengers, who had opened their seatbelts and trying to collect their carry-on luggage from the overhead storage immediately after the plane touched down....... that is the usual scenario on most Chinese flights.

[planetdweller]

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