PM Yingluck says at censure debate nobody manipulating current administration

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PM Yingluck says at censure debate nobody manipulating current administration



BANGKOK, 27 November 2013 (NNT) – Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Tuesday asserted at the censure debate her administration had been managing the country without being manipulated by anyone, and that it was able to make progress in fighting corruption.

The censure debate on Prime Minister Yingluck and Interior Minister Charupong Ruangsuwan commenced with Opposition Chief Whip Churin Laksanawisit's accusation of the prime minister having misconducted her work, having facilitated benefits toward her own group. Interior Minister Charupong was also accused of the same issues.

Opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva then elaborated that governance under the Yingluck administration promoted corruption and the avoidance of inspection process. Regulations were issued to facilitate the averting of the National Anti-Corruption Commission's scrutiny. He also accused the prime minister of ignoring government members' declarations they would not accept the authority of the Constitutional Court. In addition, Mr. Abhisit asserted the government tried to issue the amnesty bill to reduce the power of the courts and to aid those guilty of corruption.

Opposition members of parliament then took turns criticizing the work of the government, and accusing the administration of having selected Cabinet ministers based on guidance by former prime minister Thaksin Shinwatra.

Ms. Yingluck clarified all accusations, asserting that the work of the government had been in accord with what it had earlier promised Parliament, and that the selection of cabinet minister was based on the capacity of each individual.

The prime minister also brushed aside the accusation of not heeding the advice of the NACC and accomodating corruption, saying the government had worked with all sectors to tackle corruption and made suppression of corruption an urgent national agenda, to be pursued along with the urgent issues of the economy and the well-being of the public.

Regarding the amnesty bill, Ms. Yingluck explained it did not contain any content about returning seized assets to any individual, and that it was definitely not a money-related law.


-- NNT 2013-11-27

[rubl]

"For the past year and a half, by the party’s own admission, the most important political decisions in this country of 65 million people have been made from abroad, by a former prime minister who has been in self-imposed exile since 2008 to escape corruption charges."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/world/asia/thaksin-shinawatra-of-thailand-wields-influence-from-afar.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

""It was really a meeting among us, with Thaksin offering encouragement towards the end of the meeting," she said."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/500248-thaksin-calls-in-to-instruct-thai-cabinet/

"BANGKOK, Sept 23 (Reuters) - Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra faced withering criticism on Friday for allowing her brother, deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to summon government ministers for a meeting by web-cam from his self-imposed exile abroad.http://www.trust.org/item/?map=thai-pm-faces-criticism-for-brothers-skype-cabinet-meeting"

[Tatsujin]

Can't she be arrested for these bare faced lies?

[MrSlatersParrot]

This impeachment process seems to have run out of steam.

I was expecting lurid headlines and some hard evidence.

Saving it for later today are they?

[MrSlatersParrot]

"For the past year and a half, by the party’s own admission, the most important political decisions in this country of 65 million people have been made from abroad, by a former prime minister who has been in self-imposed exile since 2008 to escape corruption charges."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/world/asia/thaksin-shinawatra-of-thailand-wields-influence-from-afar.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

""It was really a meeting among us, with Thaksin offering encouragement towards the end of the meeting," she said."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/500248-thaksin-calls-in-to-instruct-thai-cabinet/

"BANGKOK, Sept 23 (Reuters) - Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra faced withering criticism on Friday for allowing her brother, deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to summon government ministers for a meeting by web-cam from his self-imposed exile abroad.http://www.trust.org/item/?map=thai-pm-faces-criticism-for-brothers-skype-cabinet-meeting"

1 New York Times article published January 29 2013 10 months ago

2 Thaivisa 23rd September 2011 2 years ago

3 Thai PM faces criticism for brother's "Skype cabinet meeting"

Source: Thomson Reuters Foundation - Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:23 AM

Author: Reuters 2 years ago

Shameless old spin matey

[saltandpepper]

This impeachment process seems to have run out of steam.

I was expecting lurid headlines and some hard evidence.

Saving it for later today are they?

Don't tell us that you believe she did well? A 6 year old would have performed better.

We all know that no matter what will be debated, the result will be as the boss in Dubai - HK - Montenegro - or wherever he is now, will say.

[siampolee]

What were the lines in that Rod Stewart song ?

Oh I remember them now, they were ''You Lie straight Faced.''

Yet again we see the Thaksin clan are all born again professional liars.

[waza]

and she said it without moving her lips

[ChrisY1]

The dopey Dems have no hard evidence...no actual figures of losses or corruption.....all they have displayed is a rhetoric of words that have really no substance.....they're as stupid as the PT!

[BKKBrit]

Mark my words..all of you wishing for this coalition to fail will wish (very soon) that you hadn't harboured such thoughts.Very short-signed IMO. This country is on the verge of something bigger and nastier than most of you could imagine. Quaffing your beers in some bar will not make the situation any rosier either. Don't think you all won't be affected if the two parties do not start talking. This should, I agree, have been initiated a long time ago and apologies from PT to the electorate offered. But it's never too late. I remain hopeful.

Interestingly, the rift in your beloved Democratics, seems to underscore the seriousness of the situation but they are toothless to rein in Suthep. He's out of control and for one demanding that PT play to the law, interesting he doesn't turn himself in to face the charges. Pot black?

[Robby nz]

The dopey Dems have no hard evidence...no actual figures of losses or corruption.....all they have displayed is a rhetoric of words that have really no substance.....they're as stupid as the PT!

If you would like to go watch Tele right now you would see them producing hard evidence.

[rubl]

Does the truth have a 'retention date'? Not valid after ... ... ? Is the current government of PM Yingluck not in place since July 2011?

As for spin, what spin?

"For the past year and a half, by the party’s own admission, the most important political decisions in this country of 65 million people have been made from abroad, by a former prime minister who has been in self-imposed exile since 2008 to escape corruption charges."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/world/asia/thaksin-shinawatra-of-thailand-wields-influence-from-afar.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

""It was really a meeting among us, with Thaksin offering encouragement towards the end of the meeting," she said."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/500248-thaksin-calls-in-to-instruct-thai-cabinet/

"BANGKOK, Sept 23 (Reuters) - Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra faced withering criticism on Friday for allowing her brother, deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to summon government ministers for a meeting by web-cam from his self-imposed exile abroad.http://www.trust.org/item/?map=thai-pm-faces-criticism-for-brothers-skype-cabinet-meeting"

1 New York Times article published January 29 2013 10 months ago

2 Thaivisa 23rd September 2011 2 years ago

3 Thai PM faces criticism for brother's "Skype cabinet meeting"

Source: Thomson Reuters Foundation - Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:23 AM

Author: Reuters 2 years ago

Shameless old spin matey

[bigbamboo]

Well she would say that, wouldn't she?

Of course everybody knows that BB has been running the show ever since he plucked her from the chorus line to be the next face of Pheu Thai. It wasn't her fault she had no political experience or that Abhisit would have her for breakfast in a parliamentary debate so she needed help and lots of it and still does.

That's just the way it is.

[rubl]

"Quaffing your beers in some bar" ?

I'm still in the office, may have missed the "it's beer time whistle"

Mark my words..all of you wishing for this coalition to fail will wish (very soon) that you hadn't harboured such thoughts.Very short-signed IMO. This country is on the verge of something bigger and nastier than most of you could imagine. Quaffing your beers in some bar will not make the situation any rosier either. Don't think you all won't be affected if the two parties do not start talking. This should, I agree, have been initiated a long time ago and apologies from PT to the electorate offered. But it's never too late. I remain hopeful.

Interestingly, the rift in your beloved Democratics, seems to underscore the seriousness of the situation but they are toothless to rein in Suthep. He's out of control and for one demanding that PT play to the law, interesting he doesn't turn himself in to face the charges. Pot black?

[winstonc]

Mark my words..all of you wishing for this coalition to fail will wish (very soon) that you hadn't harboured such thoughts.Very short-signed IMO. This country is on the verge of something bigger and nastier than most of you could imagine. Quaffing your beers in some bar will not make the situation any rosier either. Don't think you all won't be affected if the two parties do not start talking. This should, I agree, have been initiated a long time ago and apologies from PT to the electorate offered. But it's never too late. I remain hopeful.

Interestingly, the rift in your beloved Democratics, seems to underscore the seriousness of the situation but they are toothless to rein in Suthep. He's out of control and for one demanding that PT play to the law, interesting he doesn't turn himself in to face the charges. Pot black?

please enlighten me...who are these democrats that you speak of on here..its about 1 man his family and a vast fortune of illgotten gains.you dont have to be a democrat to be against that do you..it would also be pointless if you said you supported any party here we cant vote unless were thai citizens....your thoughts on the future would be best served... my view all corrupt should be sweating in prison now...all of them whatever colour...youl probably find thats what most posters think..i could be very wrong mind you

[slapout]

The few sweeping shots I have seen of the debate would indicate the majority of MP's are thumbing their nose at the opposition,the people and their sworn duty, by their absence. Granted their is virtually no chance of successly impeachment by the opposition, but a little intrest in what has upset so many Thai people should not be too much to ask. This is the type of behavior we have grown used to by many of the cabinet members, but the elected and even the party list people should know better.

The Prime Minister seems to spend a lot of time in the powder room and the real issues that have been directed at both subjects of these proceding have not been directly addressed by either. The PM has had two years to familarize herself with the working of her populist programs, their shortcoming, etc. To call on cronies to answer charges directed at her personally, just demonstrates the attitude which a vast majority of this government have assumed from day 1.

[icare999]

Mark my words..all of you wishing for this coalition to fail will wish (very soon) that you hadn't harboured such thoughts.Very short-signed IMO. This country is on the verge of something bigger and nastier than most of you could imagine. Quaffing your beers in some bar will not make the situation any rosier either. Don't think you all won't be affected if the two parties do not start talking. This should, I agree, have been initiated a long time ago and apologies from PT to the electorate offered. But it's never too late. I remain hopeful.

Interestingly, the rift in your beloved Democratics, seems to underscore the seriousness of the situation but they are toothless to rein in Suthep. He's out of control and for one demanding that PT play to the law, interesting he doesn't turn himself in to face the charges. Pot black?

yes it will probably be bad but not as bad as letting Taksin take over totally and impose his one party mugabwie style dictatorship onto Thailand. Their is no point in talking either Taksin goes and then problem goes or he wins as simple as that. I've lived here 30 years and have my family here. This has been brewing for last 10 years and its a all out war now. Hopefully they can get rid of Taksin and his clan and then I assure you things will be ok not great but ok. If they don't then it will end as a police state or civil war. Personally while I loathe most in Taksins party since they are all totally cowardly people at least on dens side some have guts to stand up themselves instead of sending thugs while sitting by pool. Taksin and his clan aren oat dispicable cowardly evil lot IMO ever and even other evil people like Mugabwie, Saddam, even loathsome Hitler lead from front mostly unlike your great leader who is about as cowardly as anyone can be. HOw anyone can admire or support such a pathetic person is beyond me.

[dru2]

Mark my words..all of you wishing for this coalition to fail will wish (very soon) that you hadn't harboured such thoughts.Very short-signed IMO. This country is on the verge of something bigger and nastier than most of you could imagine. Quaffing your beers in some bar will not make the situation any rosier either. Don't think you all won't be affected if the two parties do not start talking. This should, I agree, have been initiated a long time ago and apologies from PT to the electorate offered. But it's never too late. I remain hopeful.

Interestingly, the rift in your beloved Democratics, seems to underscore the seriousness of the situation but they are toothless to rein in Suthep. He's out of control and for one demanding that PT play to the law, interesting he doesn't turn himself in to face the charges. Pot black?

I would like to know why you think you can imagine something "bigger and nastier" than other people can - yet you fail to elaborate what this might be.

I would also like to know why you think those that don't share your apocalyptic vision should be sitting in bars "quaffing beers".

Many of us have lived here for decades, have Thai families and don't frequent Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza, but have a real stake in the country and its future.

I have "marked your words", and I think they are stupid and you are full of sh*t.

[jdinasia]

This impeachment process seems to have run out of steam.

I was expecting lurid headlines and some hard evidence.

Saving it for later today are they?

Parrot ,,,,

I understand that you may be having a hard time with this ... but this is not an "impeachment process", This is standard parliamentary censure.

Someone will wake you up when the impeachment process is beginning, I am sure.

[lemoncake]

Is that why Thaksin challenge Dem Mp to even behead him??? Because nobody is manipulating???

[bubblegum]

Finally I get it Yingluck is too stupid to be a puppet.

[whybother]

I am not sure that Thaksin will appreciate being called "nobody".

edit: but based on another thread maybe "no head" would be OK.

Edited November 27, 2013 by whybother

[Skywalker69]

This impeachment process seems to have run out of steam.

I was expecting lurid headlines and some hard evidence.

Saving it for later today are they?

Parrot ,,,,

I understand that you may be having a hard time with this ... but this is not an "impeachment process", This is standard parliamentary censure.

Someone will wake you up when the impeachment process is beginning, I am sure.

Parrot, is a bird you can teach to speak, but it dosen´t know what it is saying.

[tominbkk]

The dopey Dems have no hard evidence...no actual figures of losses or corruption.....all they have displayed is a rhetoric of words that have really no substance.....they're as stupid as the PT!

If you would like to go watch Tele right now you would see them producing hard evidence.

Nah, that would ruin his fantasy!

[WhizBang]

"For the past year and a half, by the party’s own admission, the most important political decisions in this country of 65 million people have been made from abroad, by a former prime minister who has been in self-imposed exile since 2008 to escape corruption charges."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/world/asia/thaksin-shinawatra-of-thailand-wields-influence-from-afar.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

""It was really a meeting among us, with Thaksin offering encouragement towards the end of the meeting," she said."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/500248-thaksin-calls-in-to-instruct-thai-cabinet/

"BANGKOK, Sept 23 (Reuters) - Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra faced withering criticism on Friday for allowing her brother, deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to summon government ministers for a meeting by web-cam from his self-imposed exile abroad.http://www.trust.org/item/?map=thai-pm-faces-criticism-for-brothers-skype-cabinet-meeting"

1 New York Times article published January 29 2013 10 months ago

2 Thaivisa 23rd September 2011 2 years ago

3 Thai PM faces criticism for brother's "Skype cabinet meeting"

Source: Thomson Reuters Foundation - Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:23 AM

Author: Reuters 2 years ago

Shameless old spin matey

So, the truth, which you have apparantly verified, has an expiration date?

Very shameless spin matey. You must be a graduate from the Shin spin academy.

Edited November 27, 2013 by WhizBang

[bob4you]

Can't she be arrested for these bare faced lies?

Be careful, her lips are moving, a bad sign.

[Rob8891]

RT@tulsathit: Censure debate is wrapping up, with Yingluck making final self-defence.

RT@tulsathitNov: Yingluck in one tweet: Thanks for all criticism and exercise of checks and blances. Allegations are untrue.

How on earth cab she be tweeting when defending herself in a censure debate? Has she been paying any attention, or just playing Angry Birds while saying 'Ka' occasionally?

(Apart from anything, that means she's claiming she can do two things at once )

[SantiSuk]

Obviously he's in control.

The Skype call quality feedback screen now includes the option "So poor the Thai cabinet could not properly follow my instructions"

[Thai at Heart]

I would prefer if she had said that she was the only one manipulating the government.

If no ones manipulating it, then who's running the place?

[whybother]

RT@tulsathit: Censure debate is wrapping up, with Yingluck making final self-defence.

 

RT@tulsathitNov: Yingluck in one tweet: Thanks for all criticism and exercise of checks and blances. Allegations are untrue.

 

How on earth cab she be tweeting when defending herself in a censure debate? Has she been paying any attention, or just playing Angry Birds while saying 'Ka' occasionally?      

 

 

 

(Apart from anything, that means she's claiming she can do two things at once  )

I think it was Tulsathit summarising Yingluck in one tweet.

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