I am pretty good friends with an owner of a Chiang Mai guesthouse. Unfortunately, I don't have the entire story. Therefore, I need the TV detectives to produce a logical conclusion.

1. tourists show up. guy in wife-beater shirt, shorts, likes to smoke. late 20's. female looked early 30's, smoker, loud. (can you tell i liked this couple?).

2. money stolen. tourists go crazy. i'm called and asked to look at the video tape. the camera angle was obviously moved by the cleaning lady.

3. cleaning lady confesses.

4. tourists increasingly mad, they go to the police back and forth.

5. cleaning lady fired.

6. tourists leave after a few days, but still obviously upset.

so what happened? my thai friend said, 'i don't know' when i asked if they got back all their 1,000 euros.

did the police take a cut? 20%? more?

i don't find it odd the tourists had 1,000 euros in their place. some found it odd.

my guess is they got back much less than 1,000 euros and also ruined about 4 days in CM. but hearing them yell and curse and smoke and complain and make everyone else feel uncomfortable.......ah, this is not how you handle yourself in a foreign country.

TV detectives......how did this end?

Note: I am sure the lady did return 1,000 Euros to the police.

What does their clothing, their age, their loudness or the fact that they smoke have to do with the theft?

Have had similar problems. Cleaning lady says all money is gone, police close the case and its the end of it.

May be if lucky and police could be bothered, she is charged, fined 500 baht and again case closed.

Lately staff stealing has become a regular occurrence and police does absolutely nothing about that.

Possibly more become aware of being able to walk away unpunished, hence the reason for theft being on the rise

TV detectives......how did this end?

Cleaning lady rides into the sunset on a new Honda Scoopy.

they have every right to be pissed off THERE VACATION IS TOTALLY F#@^KED and its also normal to have that kind of money on you when travelling I always have at least 1K or more in cash and then credit cards etc when travelling.

As to the way they are dressed has NOTHING to do with anything that is just you or your friend pre judging people

ITS TOTALLY YOUR/HIS RESPONSIBILITY for the theft of their money and all you/him can do is berate them for being pissed off that their vacation is ruined, they have probably saved for a long time,really looked forward to, only to have it completely ruined by a half ass guy who thinks he runs a guesthouse but in fact should not be allowed anywhere near one with the attitude to customer service, and obvious disdain for their guests.

I hope they hammer you/him on Social Media

Fkin unbelievable.

The smoking,wife beater t shirt wearing tourist deserves to have the

1000 euros stolen (if they actually had it in first place),for been so stupid

in leaving the alleged cash in the room.

regards Worgeordie

PS, the police obviously kept the lot.

Shortage of "facts" makes analysis difficult. Never a good idea to leave so much cash in your room.

I would never leave money in my guesthouse/hotel room and expect it to be there when I got back.

If money is not left in the room the temptation is not there.

Where exactly was the money stolen? The OP indicates theft was made possible by the maid moving the camera. That would mean the theft was not in the room, or that the room has a camera in it?

Where exactly was the money stolen? The OP indicates theft was made possible by the maid moving the camera. That would mean the theft was not in the room, or that the room has a camera in it?

Very good point. Mesquite.

There aren't nearly enough facts to draw conclusions about who's guilty of what, but anyone who leaves 1000 euros unsecured in a guesthouse room is an idiot. That's the equivalent of about six months pay for a guesthouse maid.

Where are the photos? "I don't know," what kind of answer is that? So is this 1000 dollars or 1000 Euros? Why are there cameras in the rooms? Pervy guesthouse owner? This story has more holes in it than a sieve.

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Where exactly was the money stolen? The OP indicates theft was made possible by the maid moving the camera. That would mean the theft was not in the room, or that the room has a camera in it?

Or that the camera was in the hallway and it was moved so that there was no video evidence of someone entering the room.

Break....

I can't believe how many posters are blaming the guests for trusting that their belongings would be safe in their hotel room. If you have to worry about the hotel's own staff stealing things from the guestrooms then that establishment should be avoided at all costs.

It was the ladyboy under the bed what done it ....case solved !

they have every right to be pissed off THERE VACATION IS TOTALLY F#@^KED and its also normal to have that kind of money on you when travelling I always have at least 1K or more in cash and then credit cards etc when travelling.

As to the way they are dressed has NOTHING to do with anything that is just you or your friend pre judging people

ITS TOTALLY YOUR/HIS RESPONSIBILITY for the theft of their money and all you/him can do is berate them for being pissed off that their vacation is ruined, they have probably saved for a long time,really looked forward to, only to have it completely ruined by a half ass guy who thinks he runs a guesthouse but in fact should not be allowed anywhere near one with the attitude to customer service, and obvious disdain for their guests.

I hope they hammer you/him on Social Media

Fkin unbelievable.

Absolutely agree.

1000 euros is not a lot of money and I would guess that’s about average for tourists to be carrying around with them.

I would also be pretty peeved off if my money was stolen in some cheap crud dosshouse, plus at it was a member of the guesthouse staff who stole the money, surely it would have been the decent thing for the so-called management to have reimbursed the guests, even if only 50% of the money stolen from them with an apology as a good will gesture. This sounds like a really crummy joint run by ignorant and arrogant people who have high regard for themselves but consider their guests as some sort of lower pond life.

What I find strange is, why the OP was asked to view the CCT footage? Which means it`s obvious he is more involved with this dump than just being friends with the owners.

The OP could do a good deed by letting us know the name of this guesthouse, so we can all avoid this place in the future.

first days/week in los 20 odd years ago i left money in hotel room,in patong,not all gone but lots of it,early lesson learned about los.stood me in good stead for the future.dont leave money unattended.

Not smart leaving the $ in the room, but they don't deserve to be robbed no matter how annoying you find them.

Not smart leaving the $ in the room, but they don't deserve to be robbed no matter how annoying you find them.

Agreed, however if you are careless with your valuables--money, camera, phone, passport, etc, you will be robbed sooner or later. It's best to accept the realities and be reasonably cautious.

That is just naive. Hotel staff probably very short of cash and hate their job. If you cant choose a room with a safe then dont leave any valuables. Simple. And dont walk around with 30000 bht equivalent in a town awash with atm's. Daft

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Where exactly was the money stolen? The OP indicates theft was made possible by the maid moving the camera. That would mean the theft was not in the room, or that the room has a camera in it?

Or that the camera was in the hallway and it was moved so that there was no video evidence of someone entering the room.

Break....

I can't believe how many posters are blaming the guests for trusting that their belongings would be safe in their hotel room. If you have to worry about the hotel's own staff stealing things from the guestrooms then that establishment should be avoided at all costs.

Hotels are generally more secure. It always seems like sketchy people are claiming they had stuff stolen at guesthouses. Probably his girlfriend. I say that is way too much cash to carry in Thailand, unless you are on your way to the land office. Let me guess....NE corner area, inside the moat. Long live AEON, and Canadia Bank in Cambodia. Ladies at BKK Bank are always good for a few smiles, too.

Not smart leaving the $ in the room, but they don't deserve to be robbed no matter how annoying you find them.

Agreed, however if you are careless with your valuables--money, camera, phone, passport, etc, you will be robbed sooner or later. It's best to accept the realities and be reasonably cautious.

OK, fair enough, but why put these people down just for being stressed and upset about it? To me that`s rubbing their noses in the dirt after they had fallen into it and in my opinion is a case of extreme arrogance and uncaring on the part of OP (pukeao) and the alleged owners, who it appears are reluctant to be identified. Have no need to be a genius to guess why.

What goes around, comes around. Merry Christmas everybody.

surely it would have been the decent thing for the so-called management to have reimbursed the guests

A $1000-a-night hotel would never do that, so why would a 500 baht guest house? Oh, and there is normally an 'at your own risk' notice somewhere in the room too.

Moral of the story: Don't stay in cheap guesthouses and don't trust cleaning staff.

They have all sorts of tricks like take cameras/phones , etc. and put them somewhere like the back of the drawer so that if you forget them, they can take them, if you raise the alarm they can point it out.

it would be interesting to know where in the room the money was taken.

I doubt they left it on the table.

It's pretty creepy that people expect the staff to be rifling thru their belongings.

Is that common practice?

Common enough in many countries that I would not risk it no matter how nice the staff was.

Anybody daft enough to leave 1000 euros in a cheap room, and knowing a poorly paid cleaning crew will be coming around, is short on brain cells. Surely most wise travelers would not leave this kind of temptation available. The tourists most likely are on there first overseas trip and are naive to say the least. That's what happens when you leave your brains at the check in counter. Anyway, I think they have now learned a valuable lesson in protecting their valuables. There are many other tricks they will have to lean if they plan on traveling abroad in the future. This is just common sense. Good luck to them.

I find it amazing the amount of people who say such things as, "he deserved to be robbed" or "he deserved to have his chain snatched" <deleted> no-one deserves to be a victim of a robbery, just because they have more than you.

Everybody is innocent until proven guilty. What if the cleaning maid didn't do it? Just because some be as to take the fall so she happens to be the escape goat?!?!