PM Yingluck to step down only her party loses in election

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PM to step down only her party loses in election



BANGKOK: -- Caretaker Prime Ministers Yingluck Shinawatra reiterated she will step down only if her party loses in the February 2 general election.

Her announcement to hold on to the caretaker role until the February 2 election was described by People’s Democratic Reform Committee (DPRC) secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban last night at the Democracy Monument as a “blatant defiance” to the people’s will.

Suthep then vowed to hold mass protest Sunday December 22 nationwide to “expel” her and will not stop until she is forced out.

Speaking at a brief press conference at the Thai Army Club, Ms Yingluck said firmly that she would not step down as demanded by the PDRC because she came from election through democratic process, and therefore should would step down only through the same process which is accepted in the world.

She said she would step down only when the new government is elected.

Posting on her Facebook today, Ms Yingluck elaborated three reasons why she has to stay on the caretaker role of the prime minister until the February 2 election.

She attributed collective responsibility of her and her cabinet to continue performing the duties until the new cabinet is formed under Article 171 and 181 of the Constitution.

She said as she, as the prime minister, had sought royal endorsement of the a royal decree to dissolve the House of Representatives, therefore she had to perform her duty to the best of her capability to cooperate with the Election Commission to hold the general election on February 22, 2014 with transparency, justice, and with peace and order.

She went on saying that what she reasoned did not mean that she would not resign or stick to the position.

Instead she said she was ready to listen to the voice of both the majority and the minority but everything has to follow constitutional democracy and the rule of law.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-step-party-loses-election/


-- Thai PBS 2013-12-18

[PeterSmiles]

Caretaker Prime Ministers Yingluck Shinawatra reiterated she will step down only if her party loses in the February 2 general election.

So if PTP loses the elections, she agrees not to be prime minister. If that isn't a generous offer

Clear again from that statement that Yingluck has some empty rooms upstairs .

Edited December 18, 2013 by PeterSmiles

[JRSoul]

no money, no honey.

[ratcatcher]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

[seajae]

come on guys be fair, why should she step down when they pay her to go on shopping trips and she never has to put in an appearance, just think of all the money they save because she never uses her pm chair in the chamber, they will never have to replace it. She reiterates the thai money for nothing theme of politicians to a tee, her brother tells her what to do so she never has to think for herself, her staff tell her what to say while the ptp tell the people what they are going to do to save the country, she does absolutely nothing and she gets lots of money to buy new watches

[Local Drunk]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

Because beneath all the glitz and glamour it is a Banana Republic . I'm beginning to think you fancy her a bit Rat.

[GarryP]

"She attributed collective responsibility of her and her cabinet to continue" robbing the country blind.

[Nibbles48]

Well it's all pretty obvious that once the power line has been cut for Thaksin, there is no longer any use for the remote control... is there.

[ratcatcher]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

Because beneath all the glitz and glamour it is a Banana Republic . I'm beginning to think you fancy her a bit Rat.

Well, there is something about a woman in a uniform with a thai round her neck?

[worgeordie]

So was it more lies when she said "Our family just want peace ,not power",

until the Shinawatra clan vacate all their positions of power,Thailand will

stay a divided country,stumbling from one crises to the next,all for one

families greed and lust for power.they have enough money,better they all

just bugger off and let Thailand return to normal (as it can be)

regards Worgeordie

[ManopY]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, reject the Constitution Court ruling and still be in place???

[Local Drunk]

Thais are very sensitive and she's not exactly what I'd call the Alpha Male type of politician. The campaigns for elections will be brutal. I don't think she can take the heat until Feb. 2nd unless she cocoons herself in the warm blanket of absence from the fray.

[ginjag]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

Because beneath all the glitz and glamour it is a Banana Republic . I'm beginning to think you fancy her a bit Rat.

So not elected by the people only the party. If we lose I will step down (because I will not be in the limelight, no trips abroad, no perks, less mobile bills, no more free aircraft seat, family would be out so I will also.

To be fair if you have the fight you will stay on in opposition and want for your people to return to power, but alas telling the truth you would be useless in the house in opposition to argue against KORN (wish) Yingluck you did what was asked by your brother, and the party. NOT BY the ELECTORATE they didn't vote you in.

If your party do get re-elected it will not be because of your leadership. ONLY money will return you in office.

[Zolt]

I'm not sure if this is a translation or reporting issue, or if she really said that, but that whole headline is just wrong.

If PT fails to win the elections, then her term as caretaker PM will end and a new government will be chosen by the House instead. No "stepping down" decision involved.

Basically all she's saying is she'll just hang on until the elections.

[Spare]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

Because beneath all the glitz and glamour it is a Banana Republic . I'm beginning to think you fancy her a bit Rat.

Well, there is something about a woman in a uniform with a thai round her neck? ys.jpg

Maybe you prefers the old dark type like Suthep.

I'll go for the young fair type like Yingluck anytime.

[NongKhaiKid]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

Because beneath all the glitz and glamour it is a Banana Republic . I'm beginning to think you fancy her a bit Rat.

Well, there is something about a woman in a uniform with a thai round her neck? ys.jpg

Love it when you talk dirty. Oohhh

[Mampara]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

Oh! i always thought that "The Banana Republic" was Jamaica. Do u even know what time of the day it is?

[tomacht8]

"everything has to follow constitutional democracy and the rule of law."

How would it be first to revoke the passport of a convicted criminal,
who is unfortunately, the older brother of the (caretaker) Prime Minister?

The Ombudsman has been waiting still long for a response in this lawless case!

And there is still the case, the spokesman of a party convicted in two instances.
Why let the (catetaker) prime minister let speak this criminal on her behalf?

Is this the rule of law?

Edited December 18, 2013 by tomacht8

[fab4]

Caretaker Prime Ministers Yingluck Shinawatra reiterated she will step down only if her party loses in the February 2 general election.

So if PTP loses the elections, she agrees not to be prime minister. If that isn't a generous offer

Clear again from that statement that Yingluck has some empty rooms upstairs .

Talk about empty rooms upstairs. What part of the constitutional process of holding elections do you not understand? Apart from all of it?

[fab4]

"everything has to follow constitutional democracy and the rule of law."

How would it be first to revoke the passport of a convicted criminal,

who is unfortunately, the older brother of the (caretaker) Prime Minister?

The Ombudsman has been waiting still long for a response in this lawless case!

Another soundbite. The Ombudsman issued a recommendation that the reissue of a passport by the Foreign Ministry should be reviewed. That's it. No talk of breaking laws - even if it was deemed a law breaking offence it would be the Foreign Minister at the time who would be the one accused not Yingluck.

So what has your off topic whinging about passports have to do with either constitutional democracy or the rule of law with respect to Yingluck stepping down from the position of Caretaker PM or not?

The answer : SFA.

[tomross46]

Elementary my dear Watson. If her party loses the vote, then the party with the most elected members of the lower house will nominate the person to be the next PM.

[tomacht8]

"everything has to follow constitutional democracy and the rule of law."

How would it be first to revoke the passport of a convicted criminal,

who is unfortunately, the older brother of the (caretaker) Prime Minister?

The Ombudsman has been waiting still long for a response in this lawless case!

Another soundbite. The Ombudsman issued a recommendation that the reissue of a passport by the Foreign Ministry should be reviewed. That's it. No talk of breaking laws - even if it was deemed a law breaking offence it would be the Foreign Minister at the time who would be the one accused not Yingluck.

So what has your off topic whinging about passports have to do with either constitutional democracy or the rule of law with respect to Yingluck stepping down from the position of Caretaker PM or not?

The answer : SFA.

SFA?

What does it mean?

[jayboy]

Caretaker Prime Ministers Yingluck Shinawatra reiterated she will step down only if her party loses in the February 2 general election.

So if PTP loses the elections, she agrees not to be prime minister. If that isn't a generous offer

Clear again from that statement that Yingluck has some empty rooms upstairs .

Probably you need to be a little more circumspect about referring to "empty rooms upstairs" when the context clearly indicates she will relinquish her party leadership position if PTP loses the election.

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[cup-O-coffee]

So was it more lies when she said "Our family just want peace ,not power",

until the Shinawatra clan vacate all their positions of power,Thailand will

stay a divided country,stumbling from one crises to the next,all for one

families greed and lust for power.they have enough money,better they all

just bugger off and let Thailand return to normal (as it can be)

regards Worgeordie

The way I have interpreted the history of election results of Thai Prime Ministers (PM's), and the method in which past PM's have ended their terms as PM's, I would have to respectfully disagree with your point that the Shinawat family is any cause for any "divide" at any time, and rather instead they are the being used as an excuse to hide much deeper rooted character defects of how the gears in these people's minds grind.

Rather, history demonstrates that Thais have been divided from the beginning, and with few exceptions. Your line of logic would compel me to ask you to prove that the Shinawat family's influence can be traced back through all past PM's, and to further demonstrate that the Shinawat family has (and has had) had a hold on Thailand from the inception of Prime Ministerial elections.

As I am certain you could not do that, and as it is evident that Thais have been fighting it out since the beginning of these kinds of elections, then I can only surmise that Thais have a character defect in their cultural and societal indoctrination which forbids them from developing, and instead doing everything they can to corrupt and degrade everything good that comes their way from outside sources, including (but not limited to) even those foreign ideals that they refuse to embrace, but rather instead plagiarize in an effort to appear like the rest of the world.

I do not allow myself to be deceived that simply because Thais have seemingly gone the way of the rest of the world and seemingly embraced "democracy" that they are still not at their inner core Thais. They have been, and always will be Thais, and no matter what suit of clothes they wear to try to deceive me that they are embracing "world concepts and ideals" I will never have any doubts that they are still Thais at their inner core, and will destroy anything foreign that gets in their way to remain Thai.

To be Thai is to embrace self - To avoid accountability and responsibility when it suits one's own purposes - To lie when necessary - To demonstrate a lack of restraint and self-discipline when any slight triggers an emotion, and at that, to do so without any constructive or rational reasoning - to curry support from ignorant people in order to further one's own selfish ambitions and delusions and to demonstrate utter lack of regret, remorse or guilt before, during and after - and on and on ad-nausea.

Simply on principle, the Prime Minister is correct. To deride the principle that she was elected is to add to this lunacy of what I view as being a Thai is. To condone what Suthep demands is to add to this lunacy of what I view as being a Thai is.

The current method of Thai elections may be questionable at best, but that is what was chosen. That method is what everyone agreed to; INCLUDING Suthep.

To coin a phrase from Slick Willy, "It's Principle", stupid!

Without principles, we are no better than animals; even worse for that matter, and merely act out our physiological urges when they trigger. That is what is going on here, and what the Prime Minister is saying is upsetting those who do not have any principles, and rather instead want to break contract with the very principles which they all agreed to from the beginning.

Respect

Edited December 18, 2013 by cup-O-coffee

[Maha Sarakham Marty]

Caretaker Prime Ministers Yingluck Shinawatra reiterated she will step down only if her party loses in the February 2 general election.

So if PTP loses the elections, she agrees not to be prime minister. If that isn't a generous offer

Clear again from that statement that Yingluck has some empty rooms upstairs .

Probably you need to be a little more circumspect about referring to "empty rooms upstairs" when the context clearly indicates she will relinquish her party leadership position if PTP loses the election.

Speaking of being circumspect about other people having empty rooms upstairs, she isn't the party leader.

Jarupong Ruangsuwan is.

Perhaps her context isn't as clear as some might have thought it was.

[ginjag]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

Because beneath all the glitz and glamour it is a Banana Republic . I'm beginning to think you fancy her a bit Rat.

Well, there is something about a woman in a uniform with a thai round her neck? ys.jpg

As tight as possible ??? sorry just a bad sense of humour, nothing personal

[rixalex]

Another soundbite. The Ombudsman issued a recommendation that the reissue of a passport by the Foreign Ministry should be reviewed. That's it. No talk of breaking laws - even if it was deemed a law breaking offence it would be the Foreign Minister at the time who would be the one accused not Yingluck.

If I recall correctly, the ombudsman has asked rather for an explanation from the Foreign Ministry, as to why the passport was issued, and every time a deadline had been set for them to give an answer, they have left it until the final minute, and then asked for an extension of time, to gather more evidence or some such nonsense, which has obligingly been granted.

As to your comment about Yingluck not being in any way culpable or responsible for any illegality that may have occurred, for goodness sake, she is the sister of the person in question who benefited from this and she was the Prime Minister at the time. Of course she would be culpable.

[ChrisY1]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

Because beneath all the glitz and glamour it is a Banana Republic . I'm beginning to think you fancy her a bit Rat.

So not elected by the people only the party. If we lose I will step down (because I will not be in the limelight, no trips abroad, no perks, less mobile bills, no more free aircraft seat, family would be out so I will also.

To be fair if you have the fight you will stay on in opposition and want for your people to return to power, but alas telling the truth you would be useless in the house in opposition to argue against KORN (wish) Yingluck you did what was asked by your brother, and the party. NOT BY the ELECTORATE they didn't vote you in.

If your party do get re-elected it will not be because of your leadership.

"ONLY money will return you in office."

Without there will be plenty of a doubt, there will be more than enough money floating about for her and the PTP....

[ChrisY1]

Where else in the world could a P.M. who leads a party democratically elected by the people, be ordered to resign, except in a "banana republic"?

I am no fan of PTP, but how can this be possible?

Because beneath all the glitz and glamour it is a Banana Republic . I'm beginning to think you fancy her a bit Rat.

So not elected by the people only the party. If we lose I will step down (because I will not be in the limelight, no trips abroad, no perks, less mobile bills, no more free aircraft seat, family would be out so I will also.

To be fair if you have the fight you will stay on in opposition and want for your people to return to power, but alas telling the truth you would be useless in the house in opposition to argue against KORN (wish) Yingluck you did what was asked by your brother, and the party. NOT BY the ELECTORATE they didn't vote you in.

If your party do get re-elected it will not be because of your leadership.

"ONLY money will return you in office."

Without a doubt, there will be more than enough money floating about for her and the PTP....

[bigbamboo]

Or........ "If I can't be the princess I'm not playing any more."