Chartthaipattana: upcoming government may be short-lived

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Chartthaipattana: upcoming government may be short-lived



BANGKOK, 20 December 2013 (NNT) – The Chartthaipattana Party has indicated that a government yielded from the upcoming election may be short-lived, as it would exist mainly to serve the purpose of reforming the country and pulling it through the current political turmoil.

Party executive Somsak Pritsanananthakun said on Wednesday that his party was developing a policy focusing on 'looking over differences and jointly reforming Thailand'. According to the policy, the party will propose methods to solve the country's current plights.

Mr. Somsak noted that the administration yielded from the upcoming general election might only stay in office for a short while, because it would be in office primarily to tackle the current conflicts within the country and to conduct political reform.

Also on Wednesday, former Phuea Thai Party member of parliament Mingkhwan Saengsuwan submitted a resignation letter to the party and discussed his resignation with party executives.

Mr. Mingkhwan said the party executives respected his decision, and explained that he had to hold a press announcement about him quitting the party because the party would have to disclose its list of candidates soon. He also asserted he would not move to any other party during this period.


-- NNT 2013-12-20

[Nibbles48]

'Party executive Somsak Pritsanananthakun said on Wednesday that his party was developing a policy focusing on 'looking over differences and jointly reforming Thailand'. According to the policy, the party will propose methods to solve the country's current plights.'

Now correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that the Dems' policy anyway? I suppose they are allowed to steal it, because the Dems are not yet even running.

But reading between the lines here... I think what he is saying is that they are willing to enter into a coalition with 'whoever' wins.

[JRSoul]

Is Mingkhwan the first rat off the sinking ship?

[Yunla]

Not as short-lived as a lot of foreign tourist's holiday-bookings, matey-boy.

[Nibbles48]

Not as short-lived as a lot of foreign tourist's holiday-bookings, matey-boy.

Ssssh.

TAT may be reading.

[Emptyset]

Is Mingkhwan the first rat off the sinking ship?

He's probably leaving because after angering Thaksin and upsetting other party members during early 2011, he didn't even get a ministerial post - this after being spoken of as a PM candidate. Now the TRT and PPP executives are back, he might have been told there's not even a place for him on the party list.

[NongKhaiKid]

Thai politicians are bamboo, they sway with the wind providing its in their interests.

[FangFerang]

Thai politicians are bamboo, they sway with the wind providing its in their interests.

All politicians are bamboo....

[Thailand]

Thai politicians are bamboo, they sway with the wind providing its in their interests.

All politicians are bamboo....

Bamboo is useful!

[ggold]

I don't see that the next governmant will be short lived! does anyone really beleive PTP will sit down with the dems and work out a constitution fit for the country not the politicians. The first order of the day would have to be banning for life any politician involved in any sort of corruption.

the problem with that is there would not be anyone left around the table to talk about reforming the constitution!

Somsak looks like a begger boy holding his cap out for a few crumbs!

[Costas2008]

FangFerang, on 20 Dec 2013 - 13:04, said:

NongKhaiKid, on 20 Dec 2013 - 11:04, said:

Thai politicians are bamboo, they sway with the wind providing its in their interests.

All politicians are bamboo....

Yes, but don't forget that bamboo has deep roots.........very difficult to take it out!!

[Bpuumike]

Not as short-lived as a lot of foreign tourist's holiday-bookings, matey-boy.

Ssssh.

TAT may be reading.

Nah, they're busy making up statistics

[rametindallas]

Is Mingkhwan the first rat off the sinking ship?

One can only hope

[steveromagnino]

Is Mingkhwan the first rat off the sinking ship?

Perhaps he will join the Khunying and the other PT behind the scenes officials controlling Thai media and news reporting i.e. Channel 9, Channel 11/NBT, etc and all the digital variants controlled directly by the government, along with the ones controlled by govt affiliates Ch 3, 5, 7, or he is lining up a post as a civil servant to manage 'cashflow', some might guess back to the party (or the people wanting to party in Dubai).

From his background, some say back in the day he was charged with ensuring that Toyota and its Thai supply chain owners got the government policy needed and that TOR and government policy was always tilted just enough that coincidentally his company had a natural and unsumountable advantage in 'open bids', he was the one who took Channel 9 from being a reasonably decent TV station, into an entertainment brainless c&*p channel with news that is so biased one wonders whether the reporters on the network should also receive a presenter's fee for endorsing government policy.

He's not really cut out for politics, surrounded by the more manly 'nak leng' types of PT anyhow.

Edited December 20, 2013 by steveromagnino

[bigbamboo]

Thai politicians are bamboo, they sway with the wind providing its in their interests.

All politicians are bamboo....

Bamboo is useful!

Too bloody right!

Edited December 20, 2013 by bigbamboo

[Slip]

Always informative and interesting to see your take Steve. You should post more often ;D

[Emptyset]

Perhaps he will join the Khunying and the other PT behind the scenes officials controlling Thai media and news reporting i.e. Channel 9, Channel 11/NBT, etc and all the digital variants controlled directly by the government, along with the ones controlled by govt affiliates Ch 3, 5, 7, or he is lining up a post as a civil servant to manage 'cashflow', some might guess back to the party (or the people wanting to party in Dubai).

From his background, some say back in the day he was charged with ensuring that Toyota and its Thai supply chain owners got the government policy needed and that TOR and government policy was always tilted just enough that coincidentally his company had a natural and unsumountable advantage in 'open bids', he was the one who took Channel 9 from being a reasonably decent TV station, into an entertainment brainless c&*p channel with news that is so biased one wonders whether the reporters on the network should also receive a presenter's fee for endorsing government policy.

He's not really cut out for politics, surrounded by the more manly 'nak leng' types of PT anyhow.

I recall someone wrote a similar post about Mingkwan a couple of years back after he was in the running to be PT leader, criticizing his work at Toyota and Channel 9. I guess it was you. Fair enough, you don't rate the guy. Ever heard anything about possible links to Newin as a reason he was dumped as a PT ministerial candidate? Sure, only in his fantasies was he going to be PM, but he'd have at least have expected to be part of the minsterial merry go round.

I also don't really get the last line. Mingkwan wouldn't be at home with 'nak leng' like Yingluck, Kittirat, Chaturon, Chadchart, Dr Pansak, Suranand and the gang? dam_n, makes you wonder how Jakrapob made out as UDD leader with the likes of Nattawud and Jatuporn. He must've been frightened to death up there, standing next to those tough guys. And let's not mention Kwanchai! Wonder how Mingkwan supposedly lead a faction of 10 - 20 MPs before the last election - more than Chalerm? How could someone like him have influence over those guys? I'm bewildered and at a loss. Could you set me straight?

Edited December 20, 2013 by Emptyset

[Bpuumike]

Not as short-lived as a lot of foreign tourist's holiday-bookings, matey-boy.

Ssssh.

TAT may be reading.

Won't make any difference, they seem to think of a number, double it then add another 20% to be sure.

[steveromagnino]

I recall someone wrote a similar post about Mingkwan a couple of years back after he was in the running to be PT leader, criticizing his work at Toyota and Channel 9. I guess it was you. Fair enough, you don't rate the guy. Ever heard anything about possible links to Newin as a reason he was dumped as a PT ministerial candidate? Sure, only in his fantasies was he going to be PM, but he'd have at least have expected to be part of the minsterial merry go round.

I also don't really get the last line. Mingkwan wouldn't be at home with 'nak leng' like Yingluck, Kittirat, Chaturon, Chadchart, Dr Pansak, Suranand and the gang? dam_n, makes you wonder how Jakrapob made out as UDD leader with the likes of Nattawud and Jatuporn. He must've been frightened to death up there, standing next to those tough guys. And let's not mention Kwanchai! Wonder how Mingkwan supposedly lead a faction of 10 - 20 MPs before the last election - more than Chalerm? How could someone like him have influence over those guys? I'm bewildered and at a loss. Could you set me straight?

Mingkwan is not an upcountry strongman type. He is not an orator. He is IMHO not exceptionally smart. He is a hardworking civil servant type who gets instructions, gets an organisation to follow through and does all the non glamourous stuff needed to run an organisation. So like Korn, Somkid or similar - fine as a cabinet MP, hopeless as a party leader despite his aspirations in the past.

The upcountry people like either their local fiefdom leader (e.g. Suwat, Wattana, Sanoh, et al) or a firebrand orator strongman type (e.g. Chalerm, Jatuporn, etc). They don't respond so well to expertise and a good resume.

Now bear in mind Jakrapop was a former news man, so had the credentials of a semi neutral chap when he switched sides for the pay off (alledgedly not that much around 50m baht), and is a good speaker and presenter in both English and Thai. He never had aspirations beyond leading a media organisation (in his case he worked in the PM's office and took control of Channel 11 via the Public Relations Dept of Thailand) and so he was a good fit for Peua Thai/PPP since his payout was control of something few others wanted nor could so easily do. He also on paper appeared qualified, since he was a former news man. And then there was the benefit in overseeing the cost of rebranding from Ch 11 to B or NBT (I cannot recall which came first) which was, let's guess, 30-40% of the cost of a rebranding campaign about 300m baht or around 100m baht. At a total guess. Plus the ability to hire and fire all his mates. Were it not for his big mouth and ego plus rubbing up Thaksin the wrong way (some people inside believe Thaksin was the one who stuck it to him) then he'd still be around pretending to be a neutral news man.

Mingkwan got the commerce ministry (which he was a PR and performance bit of a disaster in), and yes, he sort of has his faction, but it isn't really his faction, it's more that he is allied with faction leaders and is maybe a more acceptable face of that group.

Chalerm has 'other power' not only as a total yesman in some ways to Thaksin, but also as a speaker, as a protector of the PM and knowing a lot of secrets on both sides of the house; were it not for his son's behaviour, Chalerm would have already likely made it to PM by now. To even be able to come back from the cliff shows how resilient he is.

The main handicap Chalerm and Mingkwan had were their egos and job expectations are far beyond their capabilities. In this respect, they fit very well with the rest of parliament :_)

[Emptyset]

Mingkwan is not an upcountry strongman type. He is not an orator. He is IMHO not exceptionally smart. He is a hardworking civil servant type who gets instructions, gets an organisation to follow through and does all the non glamourous stuff needed to run an organisation. So like Korn, Somkid or similar - fine as a cabinet MP, hopeless as a party leader despite his aspirations in the past.

The upcountry people like either their local fiefdom leader (e.g. Suwat, Wattana, Sanoh, et al) or a firebrand orator strongman type (e.g. Chalerm, Jatuporn, etc). They don't respond so well to expertise and a good resume.

Now bear in mind Jakrapop was a former news man, so had the credentials of a semi neutral chap when he switched sides for the pay off (alledgedly not that much around 50m baht), and is a good speaker and presenter in both English and Thai. He never had aspirations beyond leading a media organisation (in his case he worked in the PM's office and took control of Channel 11 via the Public Relations Dept of Thailand) and so he was a good fit for Peua Thai/PPP since his payout was control of something few others wanted nor could so easily do. He also on paper appeared qualified, since he was a former news man. And then there was the benefit in overseeing the cost of rebranding from Ch 11 to B or NBT (I cannot recall which came first) which was, let's guess, 30-40% of the cost of a rebranding campaign about 300m baht or around 100m baht. At a total guess. Plus the ability to hire and fire all his mates. Were it not for his big mouth and ego plus rubbing up Thaksin the wrong way (some people inside believe Thaksin was the one who stuck it to him) then he'd still be around pretending to be a neutral news man.

Mingkwan got the commerce ministry (which he was a PR and performance bit of a disaster in), and yes, he sort of has his faction, but it isn't really his faction, it's more that he is allied with faction leaders and is maybe a more acceptable face of that group.

Chalerm has 'other power' not only as a total yesman in some ways to Thaksin, but also as a speaker, as a protector of the PM and knowing a lot of secrets on both sides of the house; were it not for his son's behaviour, Chalerm would have already likely made it to PM by now. To even be able to come back from the cliff shows how resilient he is.

The main handicap Chalerm and Mingkwan had were their egos and job expectations are far beyond their capabilities. In this respect, they fit very well with the rest of parliament :_)

Good post. I doubt Thaksin was responsible for Jakrapob's exile though. There was quite a bit of fuss about his LM charges IIRC, and certainly many royalists were angered by Jakrapob's FCCT speech.

[ginjag]

Thai politicians are bamboo, they sway with the wind providing its in their interests.

I liken them to many injections as the needles enter the skin.

[h90]

I don't see that the next governmant will be short lived! does anyone really beleive PTP will sit down with the dems and work out a constitution fit for the country not the politicians. The first order of the day would have to be banning for life any politician involved in any sort of corruption.

the problem with that is there would not be anyone left around the table to talk about reforming the constitution!

Somsak looks like a begger boy holding his cap out for a few crumbs!

they will sit and talk and talk and that's it.

[Bpuumike]

I can still only see one outcome to this present farce.