Worry-Free Non-O-Visa Savannakhet

[JaiLai]

Anyone have the link for the non O application form?

Thanks


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[JaiLai]

Anyone have the link for the non O application form?

Thanks


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[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

Anyone have the link for the non O application form?

You use the same application form for all visas. Savannakhet 2501-01-31.PDF

[JaiLai]

You use the same application form for all visas. Savannakhet 2501-01-31.PDF

Thanks for that, so am I correct in saying I use that for my Laos entry visa and for my new non O?

Another question, if I get a 60day extension at my local imm office does that mean I cannot come back in on the extension if fir example I go out of Thailand after ten days? It only allow an additional 60 days in Thailand without leaving?

Thanks


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[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

Thanks for that, so am I correct in saying I use that for my Laos entry visa and for my new non O?

No

I meant all visas at the consulate.

This is the form for the VOA. Lao visa on arrival form.pdf

10 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

Another question, if I get a 60day extension at my local imm office does that mean I cannot come back in on the extension if fir example I go out of Thailand after ten days? It only allow an additional 60 days in Thailand without leaving?

It allows a 60 day stay in country.. If you wanted to travel during the 60 days you could get a re-entry permit (single 1000 baht) to keep the remainder of it valid. But if you are getting a multiple entry non-o visa it would be best to use the visa for entry instead of getting a re-entry permit.

[JaiLai]

It allows a 60 day stay in country.. If you wanted to travel during the 60 days you could get a re-entry permit (single 1000 baht) to keep the remainder of it valid. But if you are getting a multiple entry non-o visa it would be best to use the visa for entry instead of getting a re-entry permit.

Excellent, thanks for the swift reply


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[Dmitry2222]

Are there any restrictions for sequential request for NON-O visas (upon marriage)? Currently i have two single entry and one multi entries visas. 

[BritTim]

1 hour ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Are there any restrictions for sequential request for NON-O visas (upon marriage)? Currently i have two single entry and one multi entries visas. 

In Savannakhet, at least, there appear to be no restrictions on serial Non O visas based on marriage. It would not be a shock if this changed at some point.

[Dmitry2222]

11 hours ago, BritTim said:

It would not be a shock if this changed at some point.

So, does 1 year stamp in migration is the preferred way to extend stay?

[BritTim]

56 minutes ago, Dmitry2222 said:

So, does 1 year stamp in migration is the preferred way to extend stay?

If staying in Thailand almost all the time, I would say yes. For most such people, the only good reason not to use an extension of stay is if they cannot satisfy the financial proof. A very few may deliberately use Non O visas because it gives them a good excuse to be away from the wife for a short holiday every few months.

 

For people who visit Thailand frequently, but whose visits are irregular, the multiple entry Non O may be more convenient. This is because using an extension means there are specific date windows where you must be in Thailand to apply for the extension. There is no such issue for those using multiple entry Non O visas.

[JackThompson]

1 hour ago, Dmitry2222 said:

So, does 1 year stamp in migration is the preferred way to extend stay?

In addition to above comments, a Visa (vs extension) also allows a person to, potentially, never set foot in their local immigration office.  Whether that is worth the border-runs depends on if they like travel, are far from the border, and the nature of the personnel who they would have to deal with at their local office.

Edited November 10, 2017 by JackThompson

[Dmitry2222]

48 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

In addition to above comments, it also allows a person to, potentially, never set foot in their local immigration office.  Whether that is worth the border-runs depends on if they like travel, are far from the border, and the nature of the personnel who they would have to deal with at their local office.

Same i have been did before. However, after my last arrival to Suvarnabhumi airport i got the troubles (about 2 month ago). Officer wanted to reject me in the border. The problem was resolved only with one more officer with higher rank. I showed marriage certificate and copy id card of my wife. As i understood, they thought that i want to hide my real place of residence, so i did not visit local immigration. Be careful with it.

Edited November 10, 2017 by Dmitry2222

[JackThompson]

14 minutes ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Same i have been did before. However, after my last arrival to Suvarnabhumi airport i got the troubles (about 2 month ago). Officer wanted to reject me in the border. The problem was resolved only with one more officer with higher rank. I showed marriage certificate and copy id card of my wife.

Many Thai airports and the Poipet/Aranya crossing are not friendly - even to those married to Thais.  There seems to be a resentment that the MFA can issue longer or sequential permissions of stay, and some reports indicate this can be coupled with a negative attitude towards "mixed relationships."  Best to avoid those checkpoints, and stick with points of entry where these attitudes are absent.

 

17 minutes ago, Dmitry2222 said:

As i understood, they thought that i want to hide my real place of residence, so i did not visit local migration. Be careful with it.

Your warning is appreciated, though I don't see what would stop a "bad guy" from using a fake-address in all situations - especially easy via an agent.  Seems more like you were caught in the apparent "turf war" between some factions within Immigration Vs the MFA & TAT folks - possibly mixed with negative attitudes towards mixed-relationships (stated openly, per other's reports). 

 

The solution would be spot-checks by police of alien-residences, to verify reporting-accuracy.  I fully-support the Thai authorities knowing where aliens live, because I want to live in a Safe Thailand, where real "bad guys" are not able to hide "under the radar."  Unfortunately, we have an ever-changing address reporting system which varies by office, by the day, and by the person you talk to in the office on a given day.  

 

A good first step, would be making the "address" box on the TM-6 large enough to hold a Thai address, without finding the guy who can "Write your name on a grain of rice" to fill it.  Next, let the TM-6 serve the same function as a TM-28 (same database, and no need to report the same address twice), and keep TM-30/landlord issues completely separate, as intended in the originating law. 

 

In addition to address reporting issues, some immigration offices can be difficult or impossible to deal with.  Anyone reading this forum for a longer period has seen the reports of no-receipt fees, surprise-fees (like TM-30s without warning), and services difficult or impossible to get without using an agent.  Until the processes are consistent, and the bad-links in the personnel-chain are removed, I am glad there is an alternative way for married aliens to remain in Thailand with their families.

[JaiLai]

I, touch would, have never had any issues entering Thailand in 20years, non O’s have never been questioned and birthed were about 13 years of just rocking up and getting 30 day stamp.
I think if you’re polite, well dressed and can converse in Thai with IOs it makes a massive difference in how they treat you.


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[JaiLai]

On 09/11/2017 at 2:26 PM, ubonjoe said:

No

I meant all visas at the consulate.

This is the form for the VOA. Lao visa on arrival form.pdf

It allows a 60 day stay in country.. If you wanted to travel during the 60 days you could get a re-entry permit (single 1000 baht) to keep the remainder of it valid. But if you are getting a multiple entry non-o visa it would be best to use the visa for entry instead of getting a re-entry permit.

I recall reading on a thread somewhere ( can't find it now ) that certain days were very busy due to the agents with people doing visa runs.

As i'm doing this on my own and am flexible with days etc, is there a preference as to which would be the best day to go?

 

Thanks.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

I recall reading on a thread somewhere ( can't find it now ) that certain days were very busy due to the agents with people doing visa runs.

As i'm doing this on my own and am flexible with days etc, is there a preference as to which would be the best day to go?

 

Thanks.

Who knows, but Wednesday's have been good..

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

I recall reading on a thread somewhere ( can't find it now ) that certain days were very busy due to the agents with people doing visa runs.

That does not happen at Savannakhet. That was probably for Vientiane.

I would avoid Mondays and the first day after a holiday.

[JaiLai]

Excellent, thanks guys.

[EcigAmateur]

hello, do you know what is the time limit to get a Lao visa at Savanhaket border ?

They close the office at 6pm or 8pm ?

 

Thank you.

[ubonjoe]

13 minutes ago, EcigAmateur said:

hello, do you know what is the time limit to get a Lao visa at Savanhaket border ?

They close the office at 6pm or 8pm ?

 

My answer to the same post you did in another topic.

"The official closing time for the Lao visa on arrival office is 6pm but they are sometimes open later if they are busy.

If they are closed when you get to Thai immigration they will not let you depart the country."

[khunyod]

On 11/12/2017 at 3:28 PM, ubonjoe said:

My answer to the same post you did in another topic.

"The official closing time for the Lao visa on arrival office is 6pm but they are sometimes open later if they are busy.

If they are closed when you get to Thai immigration they will not let you depart the country."

Earlier in 2017 I crossed the Thai border late. Yes, Thai immigration was a little concerned, but waved me through, and then I waited for the casino van to cross over (50 THB), and was the only one needing a visa on arrival on the Lao side, and the Lao immigration processed it without any problem. The real issue when crossing into Lao late at night is that there are no transportation options. No tuk tuks, taxis, songthaews, skylabs, motorcycle taxis or samlors, nothing. I called to my hotel who rousted an elderly uncle to come and pick me up. I think this was about 8:45pm at the time.

[jeab1980]

On 08/11/2017 at 8:00 PM, JT65 said:

 

Hi
Last year i found the place boring as hell. Im heading off on Sunday from CM and will be staying Monday night in Savannakhet. What hotel do you suggest is the best to be amongst some sort of nightlife and decent food?



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Apologies for late reply but it was out of my ?.  I use joli guest house a short walk to many eating and drinking venues

[EcigAmateur]

5 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

Apologies for late reply but it was out of my ?.  I use joli guest house a short walk to many eating and drinking venues

 

I tried once and will never go again. Old and dirty. Too far from consulate. Ridiculous restaurants around (like all over the city). So many better places for 100 thb more, even if you like this area so far from consulate.

 

 

 

[ubonjoe]

A off topic inflammatory post and a expected reply to it has been removed.

[anto]

On 11/8/2017 at 8:00 PM, JT65 said:

 

Hi
Last year i found the place boring as hell. Im heading off on Sunday from CM and will be staying Monday night in Savannakhet. What hotel do you suggest is the best to be amongst some sort of nightlife and decent food?



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The Avalon as mentioned before is hard to beat .

[EcigAmateur]

13 minutes ago, anto said:

The Avalon as mentioned before is hard to beat .

 

Yes, but now often full, Aura next do is also better.

 

 

[jeab1980]

3 hours ago, EcigAmateur said:

 

I tried once and will never go again. Old and dirty. Too far from consulate. Ridiculous restaurants around (like all over the city). So many better places for 100 thb more, even if you like this area so far from consulate.

 

 

 

Obviously you didn't as its almost brand new and very clean. Its 10 mins away from consulate  in a Tuk Tuk.  You are thinking of another hotel obviously

Edited November 16, 2017 by jeab1980

[jeab1980]

The Avalon is for is ok for people who are happy to sit in there room and eat within a two minute walk.  Personally I would find it bloody boring but I realize most can't be bothered to look around only there for visa. 

[EcigAmateur]

41 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

The Avalon is for is ok for people who are happy to sit in there room and eat within a two minute walk.  Personally I would find it bloody boring but I realize most can't be bothered to look around only there for visa. 

 

I know each corner of Savanakhet and I can confirm to people who do not care, that there is nothing to see or do. Just stay in your room on your computer is a lot more enjoyable than this shiiitehollee.

 

 

 

 

[Danielsiam]

In Savannakhet, how much is needed on the bank statements for TOURIST & NON 'O' THAI CHILD ?