Red shirt leader Thida tells Thai Navy to stop guarding anti-govt protesters

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Navy told to stop guarding anti-govt protesters
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BANGKOK, Feb 25 – A Red Shirt leader has called on the Royal Thai Navy to stop protecting protest leaders of the anti-government People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC).

Thida Thavornseth, chairwoman of the Red Shirt’s United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), said the navy should withdraw its personnel who have provided safety for Phra Buddha Issara at Chaeng Wattana rally site and PDRC secretary general Suthep Thaugsuban.

She said Rear Adm Winai Klom-in, commander of the Naval Special Warfare Command was creating conflicts between Thailand and its neighbour in his statement that foreign forces were responsible for last Friday’s attack on a rally against the government in the eastern province of Trat.

The navy chief should warn the SEAL commander for making the statement, Mrs Thida said.

She condemned the shooting and bombing of anti-government rallies in Trat and Ratchprasong over the weekend, saying that such violence should not occur no matter if it involved any faction.

Mrs Thida said the Red Shirt assembly of key leaders nationwide, held in Nakhon Ratchasima on Sunday, was not politically motivated.

The objective was to exchange views among members in light of attempts by some military groups to discredit independent organisations and obstruct the democratic system, she said.

“It doesn’t matter whether people from which sides are killed and injured, we have to condemn assailants. The world community is watching incidents in Thailand,” she said. (MCOT online news).

-- TNA 2014-02-25

[WilliamCave]

You really are bold to think u can tell the military to stop trying to protect the protesters !!!

[Stradavarius37]

VOMIT

Red shirt democracy. Kill 'em, bomb 'em, destroy 'em.

Yeah, we really need to keep these guys in office...

[TVGerry]

Sorry Thida but in what official capacity are you allowed to tell the military what they can or cannot do? Have to admit you have a set of stones on you. Even the Poo doesn't tell the military what to do.

Unlike the police and the CMPO, at least one organization is doing its job to protect the people. These people are getting shot at and bombed daily so why shouldn't the Navy protect them? If the police won't do their job, the military will.

[gemini81]

Too bad big mouth Tida; they don't need to be sitting ducks for the violent pawns in your little game of feudal fiefdom you despicable witch.

[Robby nz]

If the military stop protecting them then there could be many more killings and that would give your followers something to cheer about.

[schbang]

and this same woman encouraged violence against PDRC at the red rally recently. Now of course she wants the navy to withdraw its protection of PDRC. Arrest her and her attempts to incite civil war!

[Prbkk]

Sorry Thida but in what official capacity are you allowed to tell the military what they can or cannot do? Have to admit you have a set of stones on you. Even the Poo doesn't tell the military what to do.

Unlike the police and the CMPO, at least one organization is doing its job to protect the people. These people are getting shot at and bombed daily so why shouldn't the Navy protect them? If the police won't do their job, the military will.

Could be a reference to those Navy Seals arrested carrying VIP passes issued by Suthep. Armed to the teeth with guns with silencers. Forgotten that one Gerry?

[TVGerry]

Sorry Thida but in what official capacity are you allowed to tell the military what they can or cannot do? Have to admit you have a set of stones on you. Even the Poo doesn't tell the military what to do.

Unlike the police and the CMPO, at least one organization is doing its job to protect the people. These people are getting shot at and bombed daily so why shouldn't the Navy protect them? If the police won't do their job, the military will.

Could be a reference to those Navy Seals arrested carrying VIP passes issued by Suthep. Armed to the teeth with guns with silencers. Forgotten that one Gerry?

No I haven't. With all the bombings and killings, I'm glad at least someone in the military is there protecting the protestors.

[Nickymaster]

She condemned the shooting and bombing of anti-government rallies in Trat and Ratchprasong over the weekend, saying that such violence should not occur no matter if it involved any faction.

Mrs Thida said the Red Shirt assembly of key leaders nationwide, held in Nakhon Ratchasima on Sunday, was not politically motivated.

What a nasty liar Thida is.

Here is what a Red Shirt leader and Police officer had to say about the violence in Trat during that same rally in Nakhon Ratchasima.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbOC5J8Npak

"I have good news to tell my red-shirt brothers and sisters from all provinces. The People’s Democratic Reform Committee members of Suthep (Thaugsuban) at the protest stage in Khao Saming (Trat province) were deservedly given a reception by the locals. Five PDRC people were killed and over 30 injured"

Dab Daeng

So a Red Shirt leader is happy that children are being killed. These guys are real low life scum. The fact that the same guy is on stage until the end with Thida, Weng, Jatuporn and Nathawut standing next to him says it all.

Edited February 25, 2014 by Nickymaster

[geriatrickid]

VOMIT

Red shirt democracy. Kill 'em, bomb 'em, destroy 'em.

Yeah, we really need to keep these guys in office...

You are missing the point. The Navy personnel are refusing to allow the civilian police from carrying out a non violent dispersal of the squatters. The lower court upheld the SOE. That means it upheld the government's duty and obligation to reopen blocked roadways. The court also said that the civila authority could not use force. Unfortunately, when there are heavily armed military personnel protecting an illegal activity, it prevents a non violent response. It also demonstrates a conflict of interest and the tacit support of some parts of the military for illegal activity.

[geriatrickid]

No I haven't. With all the bombings and killings, I'm glad at least someone in the military is there protecting the protestors.

Well at least you are being honest in your contempt for a civilian government. You have made clear that you support the Thai military's conflict of interest and of its taking sides in a political matter. A professional military does not meddle in this manner. Nor does it take up arms against a civilian government acting in a lawful manner. As a reminder, the lower court upheld the SOE which included the dispersal of the squatters,

[Tatsujin]

Along with the others members of the UDD that were on stage with her, she is one of the most reprehensible, utterly disgusting and morally bankrupt people in Thailand. Their support and joy (and admission of participation in) at the deaths of those children sickened me.

I try to keep an open mind about things here in Thailand and not judge things too much, but when the UDD gets involved, my support goes 100% the other way.

[PatOngo]

What a mess LOS (Land of Shame) has become...........the smiles are long gone.

[casualbiker]

VOMIT

Red shirt democracy. Kill 'em, bomb 'em, destroy 'em.

Yeah, we really need to keep these guys in office...

You are missing the point. The Navy personnel are refusing to allow the civilian police from carrying out a non violent dispersal of the squatters. The lower court upheld the SOE. That means it upheld the government's duty and obligation to reopen blocked roadways. The court also said that the civila authority could not use force. Unfortunately, when there are heavily armed military personnel protecting an illegal activity, it prevents a non violent response. It also demonstrates a conflict of interest and the tacit support of some parts of the military for illegal activity.

"

The Navy personnel are refusing to allow the civilian police from carrying out a non violent dispersal of the squatters"

You have proof for this assertion?

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[Nickymaster]

VOMIT

Red shirt democracy. Kill 'em, bomb 'em, destroy 'em.

Yeah, we really need to keep these guys in office...

You are missing the point. The Navy personnel are refusing to allow the civilian police from carrying out a non violent dispersal of the squatters. The lower court upheld the SOE. That means it upheld the government's duty and obligation to reopen blocked roadways. The court also said that the civila authority could not use force. Unfortunately, when there are heavily armed military personnel protecting an illegal activity, it prevents a non violent response. It also demonstrates a conflict of interest and the tacit support of some parts of the military for illegal activity.

YOU are trying to make us miss the point. You know very well that if the navy leaves, the protestors will be targeted by bombs and bullets. YOU also know very well that PT/Thaksin will not allow the Police to investigate any attacks on PRDC people.

Nice try GK.

Edited February 25, 2014 by Nickymaster

[uty6543]

Well she said the right words about the violence that has been used but i don't believe she was being honest. She just knows it is better to distance themselves from the murder of innocent children and unarmed men and women.

[sweatalot]

No I haven't. With all the bombings and killings, I'm glad at least someone in the military is there protecting the protestors.

Well at least you are being honest in your contempt for a civilian government. You have made clear that you support the Thai military's conflict of interest and of its taking sides in a political matter. A professional military does not meddle in this manner. Nor does it take up arms against a civilian government acting in a lawful manner. As a reminder, the lower court upheld the SOE which included the dispersal of the squatters,

As a reminder, the lower court upheld the SOE which included the dispersal of the squatters, ??

As far as I know dispersal was excluded

[Tatsujin]

VOMIT

Red shirt democracy. Kill 'em, bomb 'em, destroy 'em.

Yeah, we really need to keep these guys in office...

You are missing the point. The Navy personnel are refusing to allow the civilian police from carrying out a non violent dispersal of the squatters. The lower court upheld the SOE. That means it upheld the government's duty and obligation to reopen blocked roadways. The court also said that the civila authority could not use force. Unfortunately, when there are heavily armed military personnel protecting an illegal activity, it prevents a non violent response. It also demonstrates a conflict of interest and the tacit support of some parts of the military for illegal activity.

Yes, the Police also really need to take urgent action against the Red Shirt/UDD/Pheu Thai militants who are now coming out in force, wearing their black shirts and masks, blocking roads and generally inflaming an already tense situation.

[Nickymaster]

Well she said the right words about the violence that has been used but i don't believe she was being honest. She just knows it is better to distance themselves from the murder of innocent children and unarmed men and women.

Well, she is NOT distancing herself from the murder of innocent people. The Red Shirt Leader (who supported the killings in Trat on stage) is not expelled from the Red Shirt Leader's Club. Today he is still a Red Shirt Leader.

Says enough about fake Thida.

Edited February 25, 2014 by Nickymaster

[ginjag]

No I haven't. With all the bombings and killings, I'm glad at least someone in the military is there protecting the protestors.

Well at least you are being honest in your contempt for a civilian government. You have made clear that you support the Thai military's conflict of interest and of its taking sides in a political matter. A professional military does not meddle in this manner. Nor does it take up arms against a civilian government acting in a lawful manner. As a reminder, the lower court upheld the SOE which included the dispersal of the squatters,

Who meddles in this matter then??? the police 2010 ran away----here where are they to protect all ??? have they nailed anyone for any bombings or shootings, maybe the odd one--when a red leader was shot.

My point therefore is, who is there to protect.??

Way out of conflict area, Yesterday at Udon Thani a massive traffic jam was caused by 25 police stopping all traffic near one of the biggest junctions in the north.

This was to get tea money. Now compare say UK most of the force from ALL counties would be called upon to the riot areas to help protect -restore order.

Why are these collecting tea money, when they should be on emergency duties in BKK and other areas.

[JesseFrank]

Translated :

We don't want to risk to get hurt when we attack the ant-government protesters.

[Chao Lao Beach]

She condemned the shooting and bombing of anti-government rallies in Trat and Ratchprasong over the weekend, saying that such violence should not occur no matter if it involved any faction.

Mrs Thida said the Red Shirt assembly of key leaders nationwide, held in Nakhon Ratchasima on Sunday, was not politically motivated.

What a nasty liar Thida is.

Here is what a Red Shirt leader and Police officer had to say about the violence in Trat during that same rally in Nakhon Ratchasima.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbOC5J8Npak

"I have good news to tell my red-shirt brothers and sisters from all provinces. The People’s Democratic Reform Committee members of Suthep (Thaugsuban) at the protest stage in Khao Saming (Trat province) were deservedly given a reception by the locals. Five PDRC people were killed and over 30 injured"

Dab Daeng

So a Red Shirt leader is happy that children are being killed. These guys are real low life scum. The fact that the same guy is on stage until the end with Thida, Weng, Jatuporn and Nathawut standing next to him says it all.

Amazing allright

[BlueNoseCodger]

Sorry Thida but in what official capacity are you allowed to tell the military what they can or cannot do? Have to admit you have a set of stones on you. Even the Poo doesn't tell the military what to do.

Unlike the police and the CMPO, at least one organization is doing its job to protect the people. These people are getting shot at and bombed daily so why shouldn't the Navy protect them? If the police won't do their job, the military will.

Could be a reference to those Navy Seals arrested carrying VIP passes issued by Suthep. Armed to the teeth with guns with silencers. Forgotten that one Gerry?

I think she means these guys. Of which the 3 caught by the police were only a part. Military are supposed to be neutral.

Rear Admiral Winai said they'd been withdrawn (he was the person that bailed the 3 out saying they were investigating drugs), but were seen again at Pan Fah bridge:

Infact they seem to spring up everywhere.

[siampolee]

This woman Thida is an evil person. An avowed communist past which is currently still here in here political dogma and comments even now.,

However some questions Thida.

How can you or why do you align yourself with Thaksin?

His (Thaksin) political views are indeed at odds with yours in more ways than one.O.K. you both delight in the thought of controlling the people. Yet with your political dogma Thida how do you reconcile your socialist communist ideals with Thaksins free enterprise and businesses and self enrichment ideals?

Are you blinded as to the truth of Thaksin's plan or are you blinded by the thought of a few crumbs from the table of a rich man for a brief period of time until your usefulness is done with and you and your political friends vanish without a trace as a number of prominent anti Thaksin people have over the years?

Or might there be a financial incentive, retirement and no income is not perhaps a pleasant panorama for you and you, thus you are able and indeed willing to sell your principles to the highest bidder.

No Thida you do not convince me of your ideals, to my mind and many others minds too you are nothing more than an unprincipled political power wanna be.

We've yet to hear you condemn the massacre of innocent children.

Thida, your politics are red, as is the blood of those massacred innocents on your hands.

[Skywalker69]

You really are bold to think u can tell the military to stop trying to protect the protesters !!!

I would call her plain stupid.

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[Scamper]

Thida wants the Thai Navy to stop protecting the Thai people.

Thida's conclusion now in light of the crime against humanity in Trat is that all protection of the Thai people must stop.

Thida wants the Thai Navy to withdraw all its personnel who have violated her belief that the Thai people should not be protected.

Thida wants the Thai Navy to stand down - as the police have done, following her cue - to allow vigilante terrorists to attack Thai civilians unimpeded.

Thida expressly forbids the Thai Navy from ever speaking the truth. The fact that her " neighbour " Cambodia straddles the border with Trat, and that Cambodia is a known refuge for UDD leaders on the run should not encourage people to point fingers between the UDD and Cambodia. The truth is to be avoided at all costs. If the Thai Navy feels a duty to speak up against attacks on their own people, then they should adopt the lies and spins of the UDD. Thida will cause no trouble. Jataporn has been able to do it. The Thai Navy can learn to do it too.

Thida condemns the violence, and although she was present on stage when Trat was brought up in an utterly obscene reference, Thida wants up to know that that didn't happen. Thida assures us that the meeting wasn't - in any shape or form - political.

Thida wants us to forget that Nattawut at that same rally openly attacked the independent agencies. Thida wants us now all to believe that that didn't happen either. Thida wants us now to believe it is the military that wants to do that. Thida now wants us to believe that - whatever she may have seemed to believe just two days ago - she is now firmly on the side of the judiciary.

[casualbiker]

Sorry Thida but in what official capacity are you allowed to tell the military what they can or cannot do? Have to admit you have a set of stones on you. Even the Poo doesn't tell the military what to do.

Unlike the police and the CMPO, at least one organization is doing its job to protect the people. These people are getting shot at and bombed daily so why shouldn't the Navy protect them? If the police won't do their job, the military will.

Could be a reference to those Navy Seals arrested carrying VIP passes issued by Suthep. Armed to the teeth with guns with silencers. Forgotten that one Gerry?

I think she means these guys. Of which the 3 caught by the police were only a part. Military are supposed to be neutral.

Rear Admiral Winai said they'd been withdrawn (he was the person that bailed the 3 out saying they were investigating drugs), but were seen again at Pan Fah bridge:

Infact they seem to spring up everywhere.

BNC. Those guys are only in YOUR mind the Navy seals .. no proof!

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[WilliamCave]

I showed my wife the video and she translated it to me ,

That is criminal in my mind .

I wouder if the foreign media will ever report this ?

The foreign media should come out of ther 5 star hotels and start doing some real investigating reporting .

[animatic]

While saying she against violence she simultaneously makes it easier for her comrades who LIKE violence to do some...

Whom might the Navy be protecting them from, would be the logical question, but logic is a lost art here.

"Mrs Thida said the Red Shirt assembly of key leaders nationwide, held in Nakhon Ratchasima on Sunday, was not politically motivated."

Right, and pigs can fly on wings of finest goose down.

Edited February 25, 2014 by animatic