rice555 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 so here we have a dictator 'in-waiting' demanding of the democratically elected PM that she GIVES IN to his preconditions before meeting? he is deluded - can you imagine Kim Jong-Un asking Obama for such talks but preconditions include NO talk about elections and NO talk about sharing government? she would be mad to agree to this as would Obama it's posturing and he well knows she will never agree - he is getting desperate by the day (which is a good sign) X-pm, now caretaker pm, don't make her something she's no. rice555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2258 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Just imagine a country PM who do not have the say and a country traitor who claims to be a hero is telling her what to do? What kind of democracy country everyone is talking about? If this happens to Singapore, Malaysia or some other Asian country, Suthep are long time charge with ISA that ruined the country economy, security and tarnished the country reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post patjem Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 It's not Thailand's got talent... why on gods green earth it should be televised is absurd, it totally demeans the office of prime minister, and is just not done... anywhere. It's not a debate, it is a talk between rivals who should be attempting to nut out a solution. Suthep simply wants to make demands and crack the jimmy grits when she walks out... no wonder she preempted this. I think Abhisit's talks with red shirt leaders in 2010 was televised so unless I'm wrong it has been done in Thailand and recently. Indeed it was, and Abhisit made the 3 clowns look pathetic. The PTP/ reds would end up being seen 'doing a Weng' again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Quite correct...i don't think idiocy is an offence in this country. In Thai politics it's a qualification 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Talking to her on live TV would be like talking to George W Bush; stumbling, bumbling, bilious, incoherent babble. Funny thing, he got re elected too! Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Posts using an intentional misspelling of a person's proper name removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 so here we have a dictator 'in-waiting' demanding of the democratically elected PM that she GIVES IN to his preconditions before meeting? he is deluded - can you imagine Kim Jong-Un asking Obama for such talks but preconditions include NO talk about elections and NO talk about sharing government? she would be mad to agree to this as would Obama it's posturing and he well knows she will never agree - he is getting desperate by the day (which is a good sign) Please show one reference to a statement by Suthep that he wants to be the PM. From what I've read, he has NO interest. His only desire is to rid Thailand of the corrupt Shin clan. Not that bad, actually. Suthep is a player in Thai politics. For better or worse. Yingluck is also a player, for better or worse. A debate is not such a bad idea. Right. He is only the leader of the revolution and the person that will choose the people's council. Libya under Gaddhafi also had a people's council of "good people" that were chosen by Gaddhafi and Gaddhafi never held any political office besides being the "leader of the revolution". Phillipines, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Russia voted for certain leaders too! Marcos, Mugabe et al, all won elections! Look how they turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icommunity Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Suthep's was actually talking for no-talk. Beside the issue of 46 billion baht assets, other demands he raised are in the hands of the people, not the government or PTP or any political party. His demands were unconstitutional and will raise more issues. I don't see there is anything to talk to him except with the real people of 'old elite' power. He and the violence protest leaders should be arrested in order to pave the way for talks. Of course, they have the right to ask for pardon through appropriate process. If the rule of law does not prevail, no agreement , arrangement is sustainable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluboyy Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 some talk better than no talk -----where is it going at the moment --nowhere !!!!!!! Some talk has been going on behind the scenes -----it must now be broadened !!!! market up 1% today ----first light in a while ---hope not an oncoming express train alf haupt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShannonT Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 so here we have a dictator 'in-waiting' demanding of the democratically elected PM that she GIVES IN to his preconditions before meeting? he is deluded - can you imagine Kim Jong-Un asking Obama for such talks but preconditions include NO talk about elections and NO talk about sharing government? she would be mad to agree to this as would Obama it's posturing and he well knows she will never agree - he is getting desperate by the day (which is a good sign) Please show one reference to a statement by Suthep that he wants to be the PM. From what I've read, he has NO interest. His only desire is to rid Thailand of the corrupt Shin clan. Not that bad, actually. Suthep is a player in Thai politics. For better or worse. Yingluck is also a player, for better or worse. A debate is not such a bad idea. Right. He is only the leader of the revolution and the person that will choose the people's council.Libya under Gaddhafi also had a people's council of "good people" that were chosen by Gaddhafi and Gaddhafi never held any political office besides being the "leader of the revolution". Phillipines, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Russia voted for certain leaders too! Marcos, Mugabe et al, all won elections! Look how they turned out. So, what s better in your opinion? Elections or a people's council? Or elections but without the people that keep winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 One just has to love the old boy's tactics here. He would just tear her apart in a debate. And if it happens [ no way it will IMO ] on live TV across the nation, that would be something I would pay good money to see. Well done Mr Suthep. Love it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeThePoster Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Couldn't she just send one of the contestants of Smart Lady Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones23 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Please let her call a friend, and ask the audience. That will make the debate a little more balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Phillipines, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Russia voted for certain leaders too! Marcos, Mugabe et al, all won elections! Look how they turned out. So, what s better in your opinion? Elections or a people's council? Or elections but without the people that keep winning? People's council and reforms till the next election. And we need a neutral leader until the next election. Definitely not Suthep or someone who hates the reds but definitely not a red sympathizer either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Love all the guys on here describing how he "would tear her a new one" bla bla bla yet safe to assume 80%+ can`t speak Thai. How they can asses how articulate she is is beyond me when you don`t even speak the lingo. I fear most are basing her debating skills on her English speaking interviews (a language Suthep can`t speak at all.) Like or loathe PT and Yingluck (and Im no fan, just like im not of the other side) the way she has out manouvered Suthep throughout is impressive. He is literally battling to just stay relevant now, things are moving on without him. Hes a nobody with a mandate to represent nobody. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOD Robin Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Even if it wasn't televised, she would stumble as soon as the first topic was discussed! She should never have been PM that in itself is the biggest Joke of the whole situation. AMEN to that ! Try to explain this to all those brainwashed Red devils !!! Guess it's IMPOSSIBLE since a buffalo is smarter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay49 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 In the Netherlands we don't talk with rebels on TV. Mr.Suthep is responsible for the chaos and damage-done to Thailand. 20 persons got killed and over 700 wounded. The damage to the Thai Econmy runs into the many billions of Baht. He, and Abhisit, were requested months ago to have a talk, but refused many times. No government should jump for this kind of hooligan-behaviour. A talk is good, but NOT under these conditions! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojorison Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 One just has to love the old boy's tactics here. He would just tear her apart in a debate. And if it happens [ no way it will IMO ] on live TV across the nation, that would be something I would pay good money to see. Well done Mr Suthep. Love it !! I don't think he invited her to debate. I think it was his plan to lay down (his) law, and belittle her as much as possible. And if she passed (as she has) then he would belittle her as much as possible and call her a welcher. He's a 2 bit thug and she's a stooge. Losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 TVGerry, The Russian economy has actually got better in the past 10 years, their Military has started projecting itself globally too. Take a look at what happened in Egypt, and Tunisia then if you want to compare "uprising" and the power of the people, the Egyptians outed Muhbarrak and the Islamic Brotherhood ended up being voted in, much to the surprise of the people, as they never anticipated that, they've themselves since been booted out and more elections are looming. Not everything is black and White where Thailand is concerned, lots of hard work in the coming years for whoever gets voted in through fair elections 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 In the Netherlands we don't talk with rebels on TV. Mr.Suthep is responsible for the chaos and damage-done to Thailand. 20 persons got killed and over 700 wounded. The damage to the Thai Econmy runs into the many billions of Baht. He, and Abhisit, were requested months ago to have a talk, but refused many times. No government should jump for this kind of hooligan-behaviour. A talk is good, but NOT under these conditions! Oh and the Netherlands has experienced a lot of 'rebellions' recently has it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 She will reject it. There's no way she can have a talk 'live' on TV. She will need 'advice' from overseas and love him or hate him, Suthep has more charisma than her. Of course, she could always cry on live TV. That way the stupid people can say Suthep bullied her. I never thought I would hear Suthep and charisma in the same sentence. You should seriously think about doing stand up comedy. People would roll around the floor laughing at your comments. I already laugh at most of yours. Wonder what you will have to talk about after next wednesday, i'm sure we will all miss you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yingluck, being the good debater she has proven to be during her 2.5 years as a PM, should have no problems talking face to face with Suthep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetotravel Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 so here we have a dictator 'in-waiting' demanding of the democratically elected PM that she GIVES IN to his preconditions before meeting? he is deluded - can you imagine Kim Jong-Un asking Obama for such talks but preconditions include NO talk about elections and NO talk about sharing government? she would be mad to agree to this as would Obama it's posturing and he well knows she will never agree - he is getting desperate by the day (which is a good sign) Please show one reference to a statement by Suthep that he wants to be the PM. From what I've read, he has NO interest. His only desire is to rid Thailand of the corrupt Shin clan. Not that bad, actually. Suthep is a player in Thai politics. For better or worse. Yingluck is also a player, for better or worse. A debate is not such a bad idea. Right. He is only the leader of the revolution and the person that will choose the people's council. Libya under Gaddhafi also had a people's council of "good people" that were chosen by Gaddhafi and Gaddhafi never held any political office besides being the "leader of the revolution". No comparison. You didn't answer my question and it's not relevant to compare Gaddhafi to Yingluck. Gaddhafi ran Libya. Elected or not, that's the way it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Come on, thats not fair. We all know she couldnt win a debate with a cucumber. At least allow her to have a teleprompter, assistants and to delegate the actual answering of questions. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand She should have yes ,and arrested that scumbag as soon as he walked in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> And what sort of right has the Dusit Puppet to demand these sorts of things? Oh, that's right: none. Let's face it he's an intellectual midget next to her (remind me what educational levels he reached) but he can out-thug her anytime of course. Why on earth should she sit in the same room as someone who has threatened to have her and her family eradicated? Are you claiming Yingluck is an intellectual AND has high education levels? Seriously? Feel free to tell the University of Kentucky that their Masters Degree is worthless. Whether you like her or not it's an accredited university in the USA that has standing. Who to believe? The US national system that provides that accreditation or some anonymous farang on Thai Visa. I thought about it for a fraction of a second and decided to go with the US system. A system that accredited Nixon,Kissinger and GWB...........oh!.....and Yingluck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUAHIN62 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Funny man he wants to talk, but only about issues he wants to talk about. If it would have taken place YS would not get word in, I can just see him pointing his fingers and waving his arms around and talking/shouting at the top of his voice. Sorry Suthep problems of this nature are solved with level heads and behind closed doors. No free publicity for you and a feeble attempt at turning around " I will not negotiate" slogan. Listen to the general while you still have leverage over the Shins, in two weeks you may have non. Quit while you ahead jester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Phillipines, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Russia voted for certain leaders too! Marcos, Mugabe et al, all won elections! Look how they turned out. So, what s better in your opinion? Elections or a people's council? Or elections but without the people that keep winning? People's council and reforms till the next election. And we need a neutral leader until the next election. Definitely not Suthep or someone who hates the reds but definitely not a red sympathizer either. I think you made it too complicated for him. You have to choose from his two options only. Edited February 27, 2014 by Nickymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 In the Netherlands we don't talk with rebels on TV. Mr.Suthep is responsible for the chaos and damage-done to Thailand. 20 persons got killed and over 700 wounded. The damage to the Thai Econmy runs into the many billions of Baht. He, and Abhisit, were requested months ago to have a talk, but refused many times. No government should jump for this kind of hooligan-behaviour. A talk is good, but NOT under these conditions! And who would they be talking with? Has yingluk got the brains to make a decision on her own or would they be waiting for answers via skype, in which case It would be Thaksin who gives the orders, a criminal on the run! to his puppet. Do they have that kind of PM in the Netherlands? This is Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtgruen Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I think most of us know, that Suthep is not the real head of the Anti-Government movement and that Yingluck isn't the real leader of Thailand. Do some of you really believe that the Navy and some of the air force and army would support Suthep, if they were not told who is really behind him? and on the other side... Do you really believe that Yingluck pulls the strings and that the UDD and the police act independently from Thaksin? They are two people doing a job for others, above them. One has to be an idiot not to figure out what is really going on in Thailand. So why bother to get so excited about Yingluck and Suthep. They are just doing the job, they are asked to do by their superiors. There are some things, we cannot talk about here, which of course makes it difficult to discuss the situation accurately and in detail. Sad, but that is just the way it is. As far as Ms. Yingluck and Mr. Suthep are concerned, why be so mean, when talking about them. She is doing the job, her brother ask her to do and stepped up to the plate and Mr. Suthep stepped up to the plate, when someone else asked him to. I'm sure that both feel good, that they have stepped up to the plate. I also believe, that they both think, that they are on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Come on, thats not fair. We all know she couldnt win a debate with a cucumber. At least allow her to have a teleprompter, assistants and to delegate the actual answering of questions. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand She should have yes ,and arrested that scumbag as soon as he walked in But she didn't. Why one would ask? Maybe afraid to talk without her people and Skype on her mobile devise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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