Lite Beer Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 NACC assures fair treatment of PM YingluckBy Digital Content BANGKOK, April 12 – The National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) has asserted fair treatment towards caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra who has been charged with dereliction of duty in connection with the rice pledging scheme.NACC member Vicha Mahakhun said the NACC has left the door fully open for Ms Yingluck to clarify the charges, reassuring that NACC members have performed their duties without bias.He said the prime minister was allowed to assign a lawyer to defend the case – a practice which has never been permitted in the past.Mr Vicha, however, warned Ms Yingluck’s lawyer not to over-express his opinion, or else he could be barred from appearing before the NACC in the future.He said Ms Yingluck’s request for more witnesses for the case will be up to the NACC members’ discretion, and he is only one of the members.He assured that the investigation will be transparent and said political parties should be careful in giving negative opinions against independent agencies.He said he believed the NACC’s ruling will not plunge the country into turmoil.NACC secretary general Sansern Poljiak said after caretaker Deputy Prime Minister Kittiratt Na-Ranong, the final witness in the case, have testified, the NACC will need a week before making its decision on the prime minister’s fate. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2014-04-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TVGerry Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2014 To this self entitled little girl and her brother's cronies and dogs, she'll only get 'fair' treatment if she's acquitted. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 So when the axe falls and YLs head is on the platter she cant claim injustice because the NACC has broken their own rules and allowed YL to have a lawyer speak for her since she would not know how to speak and defend herself. I believe even her lawyer can not deny her guilt and instead will be there telling the NACC that her deriliction will make a civil war and will cause chaos in the country. This will lay a terrible pressure and guilt trip on the NACC which may sway theit decision Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Fair treatment......they will provide the tissues to wipe her tears, after found guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2014 A prime minister accused of incompetence and neglect of duty claims innocence, but is not competent enough to defender herself and neglects to appear in person. Anticipation of the verdict is killing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich teacher Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 He can't really tell the truth, can he! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The stuttering parrot Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2014 What does over express his opinion mean? She is the first person to have a lawyer defend someone in their arena however he better not defend to the best of his ability otherwise they will throw him out. This is why they are called kangaroo courts. You guys are right she's probably gone but the justice system is a joke 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 He can't really tell the truth, can he! That makes two of them! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 A not guilty verdict would most likely, have a more detrimental effect on Thailand than any other possible verdict that could be rendered The ptp is considering only themselves in their threats/intimadition, instead of the people of Thailand and the worlds view of the present government. Of course this self seving attitude has been a driving force behind ptp and those political parties that committed the illigal acts that led to this name. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chainarong Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2014 Why does the NACC have to justify it's treatment of people, the law is the law , to be applied without fear nor favour , the NACC should not have to defend itself , the C.T.PM Yingluck should in theory receive the same treatment as everybody else or one would hope , the NACC should ignore any attempt's to undermine it's authority and should refrain from public comment. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 "He said he believed the NACC’s ruling will not plunge the country into turmoil" Well if she is found negligent, and is removed, PTP can just replace her with some good kind hearted impartial person like Chalerm. And then they can continue. No need for civil war now is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Why does the NACC have to justify it's treatment of people, the law is the law , to be applied without fear nor favour , the NACC should not have to defend itself , the C.T.PM Yingluck should in theory receive the same treatment as everybody else or one would hope , the NACC should ignore any attempt's to undermine it's authority and should refrain from public comment. width=32 alt=coffee1.gif> "He said he believed the NACC’s ruling will not plunge the country into turmoil" Well if she is found negligent, and is removed, PTP can just replace her with some good kind hearted impartial person like Chalerm. And then they can continue. No need for civil war now is there? You should be advising Suthep and the PDRC. Edited April 12, 2014 by Publicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 Pheu Thai accuses NACC being biased for reducing additional witness to 1BANGKOK, 12 April 2014, (NNT) -The Pheu Thai Party has accused the National Anti Corruption Commission (NACC) of being biased for allowing only one additional witness to testify in the ongoing investigation into the alleged fraud case against the Prime Minister in the government's rice pledging program.According to Party spokesperson Prompong Nopparit, the NACC’s move mirrors its unreasonable haste to conclude the case, demanding that the independent agency be impartial.Earlier, the premier’s team of lawyers had requested that the agency allow four additional witnesses to testify on the case, including Pol Capt Chalerm Yubamrung, Pol Gen Worapong Chewpreecha, Pol Maj Gen Thawat Boonfueng and Mr Pichai Chunhavachira; however, the anti-graft agency decided that only Pol Maj Gen Thawat had been linked to the rice scheme, and scheduled his testimony for April 17 at 1.30 pm.Prompong reiterated that the Premier's legal team had no intention of stalling the investigation, urging the commissioners to review their decision. He said Labor Minister Chalerm, in particular, had overseen the corruption inspection in the program. -- NNT 2014-04-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) What does over express his opinion mean? She is the first person to have a lawyer defend someone in their arena however he better not defend to the best of his ability otherwise they will throw him out. This is why they are called kangaroo courts. You guys are right she's probably gone but the justice system is a joke Perhaps then the NACC should have kept within the rules and NOT allowed her lawyer to appear in her place. Now that would have been giving her equal treatment wouldn't it? The only people calling the courts kangaroo courts are the PTP, the UDD/Red Shirts and their supporters on Thai Visa and I am sure that they are in a minority group in Thailand. In addition the NACC has permitted Kittirat to be excused from giving evidence (despite knowing the dates of his World Bank and IMF visit) which is even MORE bias towards Yingluck. Edited April 12, 2014 by billd766 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2014 " NACC member Vicha Mahakhun said the NACC has left the door fully open for Ms Yingluck to clarify the charges, reassuring that NACC members have performed their duties without bias. He said the prime minister was allowed to assign a lawyer to defend the case – a practice which has never been permitted in the past. " This is the very centre of the matter.Yingluck has had an abundance of opportunities to meet with the NACC and to address their questions and mount her defense. So what has she done ? - She used her spare time to admonish the NACC through facebook and through the media, kept delaying her appearances, finally showed up briefly to hand them a folder but didn't address any questions, went back to posting on facebook and making more public announcements, encouraged her " cabinet ministers " and deputies to do the same, instructed her lawyers to question the NACC ( which by the way, is what Vicha was referring to - in other words - contempt of court, something that actually Yingluck and Pheu Thai in general - not to mention the UDD - are already guilty of ), and instructing a cabinet minister to announce publicly that he would testify on her behalf - without consulting the NACC. But what exactly happened with the witnesses and lawyers that actually did appear before the NACC ( not counting Kittiratt, of course, who is on track to deliver his testimony one presumes one of these years ) ? They were an absolute fizzle. Nobody seemed to have a clue how to address the questions. There was either a profound lack of witness preparation, or quite simply - no facts to support them. Hence the obfuscation. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ramrod711 Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2014 He can't really tell the truth, can he! Her lawyer?, not really, as I've said before, no defense for this. The money is gone' rice is missing, farmers not paid, farmers committing suicide and she was the boss. She was in charge, didn't attend meetings, in other words, she was negligent. Case closed, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. You can not refute the evidence, you can talk in circles about proving corruption, but she is charged with negligence, and you know she is guilty. Corruption charges to come I'm sure, and when they do we can debate the evidence, but right now you are talking nonsense. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcutman Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 What does over express his opinion mean? She is the first person to have a lawyer defend someone in their arena however he better not defend to the best of his ability otherwise they will throw him out. This is why they are called kangaroo courts. You guys are right she's probably gone but the justice system is a joke Not to be overly picky but the last "C" in NACC does not stand for court. "Kangaroo Commission" would be a better term, just for the sake of accuracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WoopyDoo Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2014 So when the axe falls and YLs head is on the platter she cant claim injustice because the NACC has broken their own rules and allowed YL to have a lawyer speak for her since she would not know how to speak and defend herself. I believe even her lawyer can not deny her guilt and instead will be there telling the NACC that her deriliction will make a civil war and will cause chaos in the country. This will lay a terrible pressure and guilt trip on the NACC which may sway theit decision Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app The cons court will make their ruling long before the NACC. We all know which way they will rule. 2 courts have already found her guilty on the same charges. So the Cons court have no choice but to back them up. If they rule against the other courts, then their ruling will be reversed and Thawil can be removed yet again. There courts are not going to disrespect each other. I have a feeling that dereliction of duty is only the start... By the time the NACC are finished with YL... It could well be criminal charges. Once this government has no more influence in the system, I can see all sorts of evidence coming out of the woodwork. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Pheu Thai accuses NACC being biased for reducing additional witness to 1 BANGKOK, 12 April 2014, (NNT) -The Pheu Thai Party has accused the National Anti Corruption Commission (NACC) of being biased for allowing only one additional witness to testify in the ongoing investigation into the alleged fraud case against the Prime Minister in the government's rice pledging program. According to Party spokesperson Prompong Nopparit, the NACC’s move mirrors its unreasonable haste to conclude the case, demanding that the independent agency be impartial. Earlier, the premier’s team of lawyers had requested that the agency allow four additional witnesses to testify on the case, including Pol Capt Chalerm Yubamrung, Pol Gen Worapong Chewpreecha, Pol Maj Gen Thawat Boonfueng and Mr Pichai Chunhavachira; however, the anti-graft agency decided that only Pol Maj Gen Thawat had been linked to the rice scheme, and scheduled his testimony for April 17 at 1.30 pm. Prompong reiterated that the Premier's legal team had no intention of stalling the investigation, urging the commissioners to review their decision. He said Labor Minister Chalerm, in particular, had overseen the corruption inspection in the program. -- NNT 2014-04-12 Sorry Mr Prompong but NACC have not waste time for accept delaying tactics from a woman who are to the wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 One is one too many for her. She should be jail for her sin,and her brothers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Once PM Yingluck is gone, and all those evil Shinawatras, Thailand will return to the clean, moral, incorruptible, honest, kind and generous Thailand that it never was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Once PM Yingluck is gone, and all those evil Shinawatras, Thailand will return to the clean, moral, incorruptible, honest, kind and generous Thailand that it never was. Never give up on your goals, your first sentence was spot on. Then Thailand has yet another chance to try to get strict laws to stop corruption, with Thaksin around it does NOT have much of a chance----when collecting honey, the last thing you want is someone behind your back prodding the hive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I counter the PT allegation that the NACC are biased and raise it with my belief that the Police are biased (bought and paid for) in Thaksin/PT's favor. Next. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2014 Once PM Yingluck is gone, and all those evil Shinawatras, Thailand will return to the clean, moral, incorruptible, honest, kind and generous Thailand that it never was. Perhaps not lol ... but hopefully things will go back to the more manageable 15-30% bribe rate pre-Thaksin rather than the 40-60% it currently is. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb2001 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 So when the axe falls and YLs head is on the platter she cant claim injustice because the NACC has broken their own rules and allowed YL to have a lawyer speak for her since she would not know how to speak and defend herself. I believe even her lawyer can not deny her guilt and instead will be there telling the NACC that her deriliction will make a civil war and will cause chaos in the country. This will lay a terrible pressure and guilt trip on the NACC which may sway theit decision Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I am getting an uneasy feeling about the upcoming NACC's verdict. I believe you hit the nail on the head when you mention how YL and lawyer may try threatened civil war if they rule against her. You never know what will happen as TIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkish Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 What else is he going to say? "we are going to treat her fair and square, and we will find her guilty"? Of course not - no admissions of bias but guilty she will be. And she probably is, but that is not why they are finding her guilty. They will find her guilty because that is the strategy the power elite of Bangkok have decided on, in this chess game where the next move is a judicial coup. But to be followed by what? That will be Thaksin's move. The game will continue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBobThai Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 After cutie pie is convicted , and at her sentancing hearing, she will appoint a surogate to do her prison time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torkmada Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The fact they felt the need to come out and assure fair treatment reveals all that anyone needs to know. Only the guilty need defend themselves before they act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 What does over express his opinion mean? She is the first person to have a lawyer defend someone in their arena however he better not defend to the best of his ability otherwise they will throw him out. This is why they are called kangaroo courts. You guys are right she's probably gone but the justice system is a joke No Parrot - it is not a court! She has been afforded more "fairness" than others, despite her arrogance and open attempts to discredit them. She couldn't be bothered to turn up the first time and collect copies of the information. She's not competent enough to defend herself. Yet, still some posters think she is really running the country and a capable PM. Mind boggling. He is warning the lawyer not to abuse the favor of letting her have legal counsel, as she clearly is inadequate, or do the usual Shin defense trick of threaten everybody what will happen if any decision dare go against their wishes. The biggest joke is the pretense that the Shin gang are a government of the people who rule in accordance with the law. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonc Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 What else is he going to say? "we are going to treat her fair and square, and we will find her guilty"? Of course not - no admissions of bias but guilty she will be. And she probably is, but that is not why they are finding her guilty. They will find her guilty because that is the strategy the power elite of Bangkok have decided on, in this chess game where the next move is a judicial coup. But to be followed by what? That will be Thaksin's move. The game will continue. if she probably is guilty as you say ..then let the powers that be do their job ..simple is it not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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