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Why don´t you get a baking stone?

have you seen these available here anywhere? i've had my eye out for one for 6 years with no luck, was going to bring one back from the US next month when i visit.

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I forgot to say that the pizza in the picture can be found at il Bolognese in Sathon road... It is not a cheap pizza... But quality has its price :)

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I forgot to say that the pizza in the picture can be found at il Bolognese in Sathon road... It is not a cheap pizza... But quality has its price smile.png

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That doesn't look very attractive unless you like it burned. I'll pass.

Not burned! That's a nice crust char. Very desirable. OK, maybe that one is a bit much but it's in an acceptable range.

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Tried the Dominos Extravaganzza and their Seafood pizzas. It has definitely improved from their original tasteless cardboard style. Now it is a little better than the average frozen supermarket pizza. Fits right in with all the other lousy pizzas sold in Thailand. Not saying much, but Pizza Hut and Pizza Company are better tasting.

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I forgot to say that the pizza in the picture can be found at il Bolognese in Sathon road... It is not a cheap pizza... But quality has its price smile.png

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That doesn't look very attractive unless you like it burned. I'll pass.

It is look darker than it is... Anyway was a bit burned... But it is normal if the oven is at the right temperature... Also is a wood oven.... Pizza in an electric oven is not a proper pizza :)

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I forgot to say that the pizza in the picture can be found at il Bolognese in Sathon road... It is not a cheap pizza... But quality has its price smile.png

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That doesn't look very attractive unless you like it burned. I'll pass.

Not burned! That's a nice crust char. Very desirable. OK, maybe that one is a bit much but it's in an acceptable range.

I would be willing to try it. I will miss the pepperoni and American Italian sausage.

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Many people on TV shun American style pizza as not being Italian. The fact is that American style pizza was mostly developed by immigrant and 2nd generation Italians living in the USA. Same is true about American Italian spaghetti and lasagna. Foods evolve and the original is sometimes not as good as later revisions.

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Noooo pepperoni noooo!

U know what it is mean in Italian pepperoni? Bell pepper...

That is another American distortion...

Anyway if you want to put spicy salame everybody is free to do what he wants... But call it with the real name .. :)

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Many people on TV shun American style pizza as not being Italian. The fact is that American style pizza was mostly developed by immigrant and 2nd generation Italians living in the USA. Same is true about American Italian spaghetti and lasagna. Foods evolve and the original is sometimes not as good as later revisions.

I love good versions of Italian-American food! Also love actual regional Italian food. Italian-American lasagna with ricotta cheese instead of bechamel cream sauce is bloody brilliant! Some people (including some Americans) diss anything at all American just because it's American. Personally, I don't like big chains though ... and many of those have corporate American roots.

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Noooo pepperoni noooo!

U know what it is mean in Italian pepperoni? Bell pepper...

That is another American distortion...

Anyway if you want to put spicy salame everybody is free to do what he wants... But call it with the real name .. smile.png

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I'm not sure what the equivalent term for "tunnel vision" would be for eating. Perhaps you can also translate it for me.

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Many people on TV shun American style pizza as not being Italian. The fact is that American style pizza was mostly developed by immigrant and 2nd generation Italians living in the USA. Same is true about American Italian spaghetti and lasagna. Foods evolve and the original is sometimes not as good as later revisions.

I love good versions of Italian-American food! Also love actual regional Italian food. Italian-American lasagna with ricotta cheese instead of bechamel cream sauce is bloody brilliant! Some people (including some Americans) diss anything at all American just because it's American. Personally, I don't like big chains though ... and many of those have corporate American roots.

I hate béchamel sauce, especially in lasagna. Ricotta and mozzarella for me.

Corporate restaurants often don't to make an item the same as homemade or mom and pop shops. McDonalds is a great example. I am not usually hungry enough to eat at McDonalds but egg McMuffins are ok on occasion. Their burgers suck!

Corporate pizza is for mass production, cost savings and fast through put. Everything is designed so that that it will bake quickly in timed convection ovens with automatic rollers. Works great except for the major sacrifice in taste and texture.

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Many people on TV shun American style pizza as not being Italian. The fact is that American style pizza was mostly developed by immigrant and 2nd generation Italians living in the USA. Same is true about American Italian spaghetti and lasagna. Foods evolve and the original is sometimes not as good as later revisions.

Well am agree in part.. Of course the immigrant didn't have all the original ingredient so they had to modify the recepie... And anyway what u can do in another continent is completely different from Mediterranean quality..

Say that after American ( like all the others ) grew up with that taste and that why many time they don't like the original Italian.. Simply they don't know... But this is human

The mum cooking is always the best for everyone...

Same for me the best hamburger in the world is the one done in my hometown ( Santa margherita ligure ) ... The ones I tried in NY was very bad compared to that one :)

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"mum cooking is always the best for everyone"

I have known many people that said their mother's cooking wasn't good.

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Perhaps a little off topic, but it isn't only pizza that has country variations. I have eaten sushi in Japan and in California. California was more tasty, innovative and interesting.

Chinese foods in the US are often different and very good and they compare favorably against mainland and Hong Kong. Hong Kong and main land restaurants sometimes have US locations and have devised new variations in the US.

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"mum cooking is always the best for everyone"

I have known many people that said their mother's cooking wasn't good.

Mine was one of them...

And I have a perfect tunnel vision.. I see the light at the end of the tunnel!!

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Many people on TV shun American style pizza as not being Italian. The fact is that American style pizza was mostly developed by immigrant and 2nd generation Italians living in the USA. Same is true about American Italian spaghetti and lasagna. Foods evolve and the original is sometimes not as good as later revisions.

Well am agree in part.. Of course the immigrant didn't have all the original ingredient so they had to modify the recepie... And anyway what u can do in another continent is completely different from Mediterranean quality..

Say that after American ( like all the others ) grew up with that taste and that why many time they don't like the original Italian.. Simply they don't know... But this is human

The mum cooking is always the best for everyone...

Same for me the best hamburger in the world is the one done in my hometown ( Santa margherita ligure ) ... The ones I tried in NY was very bad compared to that one smile.png

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The modern history of pizzas within Italy is one where the thicker, more bread-like pizzas are based around Naples, but the further north one goes the thinner and crispier they get.

I've made pizzas, they are similar to making bread except for two things: firstly, olive oil is added to the dough (this is just like Indian naan bread but they use yoghurt instead - indeed in the UK I would often use fresh naan as a home pizza 'cheat'); and secondly the dough is beaten down to remove much of the gas from yeast fermentation. The more you flatten in, the thinner it gets! Fairly obvious, really.

I've just read the Italian Wiki on the subject and it doesn't surprise me that American pizzas tend to be deep pan as early immigrants tended to be from the South and, surprisingly, pizzas in northern Italy didn't really take off till after the war... the second world war!

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Why don´t you get a baking stone?

have you seen these available here anywhere? i've had my eye out for one for 6 years with no luck, was going to bring one back from the US next month when i visit.

I got mine from here: http://bbqthai.com/pattaya_store.html

damn, missed that - i bought a beautiful bbq grill there (pattaya shop) about 5 years ago as a self-birthday present, only to get home and find out my condo didn't allow gas grills facepalm.gif thankfully i was able to return it to the BKK shop for a full refund! thanks for the tip!

<edit> oops, wrong shop -- the one i was thinking of is on suk in south pattaya, and have a shop in BKK on soi 23 or 25</edit>

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i admit i have not read every single post in this thread, but am surprised not to see any mention of scoozi -- they used to be very good and consistent, but the last year or so have been cranking out &lt;deleted&gt;. the only reason i ever order from them anymore is that it is the lesser of all evils, my son loves their marguerite and they have whole wheat crust... last time i told them to look at my purchase history (i always order online) and look at how many 10's of thousands of baht (if not hundreds) i spent in the last 6 years, and how much i spent in the last year. i doubt they give a shit but it still felt good to tell them how far downhill they had gone.

BTW, it is nice to see a spirited discussion that doesn't involve thai politics... i am somewhat surprised that no one has found a way to wriggle that into the conversation! clap2.gif

<edit> that's weird, s*h*i*t*e was deleted by the auto censor, but shit was not? </edit>

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Fah .... There used to be a Shakeys lost behind Siam Square

And if any of you remember that you are old timers. Nice touch with the thin slices of dried squid as a topping choice though. biggrin.png

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<edit> that's weird, s*h*i*t*e was deleted by the auto censor, but shit was not? </edit>

Perhaps it is checking to see if it used as a verb or as an adjective?

Search for 'Ned calls the FCC' on YT.

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I can't wait for the Thailand Grand Opening of Los Pollos Hermanos.

Me too tongue.png I'd invest in a franchise store or two--guaranteed money-maker...

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I forgot to say that the pizza in the picture can be found at il Bolognese in Sathon road... It is not a cheap pizza... But quality has its price smile.png

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That doesn't look very attractive unless you like it burned. I'll pass.

Not burned! That's a nice crust char. Very desirable. OK, maybe that one is a bit much but it's in an acceptable range.

I would be willing to try it. I will miss the pepperoni and American Italian sausage.

What's about pepperoni? Mimicking Italian language to describe something that is just "spicy salami".

Why US called them "pepperoni", I always wondered...

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Damn, whenever the subject of pizza comes up around here (at least 1x/month) people get all doctrinaire and quasi-religious about it. When Domino's first rose to prominence in the US (about 20 years ago as I recall) it was pretty good, I thought. Somehow, when these things get super-globalized, the quality gets lost. One thing is for sure, and most here seem to agree: Pizza Company and Pizza Hut in Thailand are the worst.

But really, did we move to Thailand so we could eat pizza?

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In Isan right now. Just at a place that had a Thai Chicken & Green Curry pizza with fresh basil leaves laid out on top of the cheese. They told me it was very spicy & when traveling can't do spicy, so no picture. But on the menu, it looked very tasty.

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Pizza is the latest fad up in isaan with it being ruined with ketchup and mayo sauce, i can see Thais getting fat eating this bread

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Pizza is the latest fad up in isaan with it being ruined with ketchup and mayo sauce, i can see Thais getting fat eating this bread

Yes agreed many places. But surely not all. Just need to stay away from the Tourist places. Like Udon, there are 2 spots but unfortunately in the Lady Bar areas or (same) downtown. Issan & non franchise places in the south make coffee, truly original. Western people/Tourists tend to get spoiled with their where. The coffee (cafe) here is easily better then any American franchise & food, either Thai or Mexican - a USA comparison (all USA food is Mexican & so miss thus US cooks, if not flavor, than culture). Up toYou.

But 'Skint' talking of ketchup & mayo must be a 'dive'. Same recipe for the US Franchise Giant, "Papa Johns".

Best bet to ignore all corporations & go with the smaller guys.

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