Mango Bob Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> winstonc, on 24 Apr 2014 - 14:31, said:he said he will hand himself in...will thaksin..no way a spineless shin he ran away like most cowards do...i do admire his staying power for an older guy.and do try to remember trolls there are more than one group of protesters...but that doesnt suit your agenda does it.. He said he would turn himself in. But will he. I doubt it because his final push never comes. Edited April 24, 2014 by Mango Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 He has to keep his people motivated; judging from the dwindling supporters and funds and the fact that his guards are imploding. Trust me, 30th April will come and go as another day and he will still be in Lumpini Park. People who believe that he will surrender himself to the authority has too much sun. He will be gone before you can say Taksin. The electricity people are supporting democratic reforms. If all of a sudden, in the hot season, you have no air conditioning and water, start yelling Thaksin. Yell loudly. Start practicing now. I am. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongteesood Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Wow, the final push again. What is this, number 5 or 6. After all of this time, has anyone heard of a single reform apart from vengeance against those who oppose the mighty Pol Pot Suthep. Its true that Buffalo are easily led. Surely there is some group that can form a decent opposition to this joke of a government. Thanks for sharing your hateful rant. Suteb is finding it hard to topple the regime as he is using peaceful means and the courts are working slowly. In most countries they would run in with guns blazing, drag out the PT toads and publicly execute them in the town square. PT and Hitler Thaksin are lucky that Suteb decided on the peaceful route. There are reasons he has chose to take this approach which I understand and support. I am glad we don't have the same level of mayhem and chaos as it happening in the Ukraine for instance. The reform ideas have been well laid out and discussed, just you were too busy watching the red propaganda and hatefully ranting to hear any of it I guess.... Yes, unfortunately the red buffalos have been very easily led by the Dubai fugitive and his quorum of corrupt crackpot cronies. I do however agree with your final line : Surely there is some group that can form a decent opposition to this joke of a government - Keep dreaming, it may happen one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 He has to keep his people motivated; judging from the dwindling supporters and funds and the fact that his guards are imploding. Trust me, 30th April will come and go as another day and he will still be in Lumpini Park. People who believe that he will surrender himself to the authority has too much sun. He will be gone before you can say Taksin. Thanks for the heads up ,any chance of a picture of an imploding guard for my gallery of "LOS You couldn't make it up file"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongteesood Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Again Suthep calls on the people to get ready for the "final", the man has it right with many of his points, but he starts to look like this government willingness to pay the rice farmers. delay, delay and even more delay. Just get the damn thing of overthrowing this government done, so the normal people can start to rebuild the country and their lives. In most countries overthrowing a government is done in days, but yeah, we all know the Thais, never on time... Well in a normal country the courts would act, the police would act, PM would step back, etc etc. It really isn't Sutheps fault but yes he is over optimistic. It's not his fault???? If he had gone along with what he wanted in the first place (to disolve parlament and her to step down which did happen) none of this and none of the people would have been killed. Am I right or wrong. But all he wants is a complete and total dictatorship with himas the supreme being. That's total bs and you know it. I suppose the red sheeple have all been told by the sheeple media that ''But all he wants is a complete and total dictatorship with himas the supreme being.'' That's complete and utter tosh ! You really should try turning off that propaganda rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsjohnsson Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The mad man have already had about 20 Final Push to overthrow her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torkmada Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Whatever the reforms are that eventually take place in Thailand, let us all hope that one of them involves banning Suthep from using the word final. He clearly doesn't know what it means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The stuttering parrot Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Whether she is guilty or not guilty? We'll that sums this bloke the monk the whole shooting match! Right there is the I will be obeyed attitude! If the yellow peril want to throw stones at the Red Devils have a look in your own backyard first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Again Suthep calls on the people to get ready for the "final", the man has it right with many of his points, but he starts to look like this government willingness to pay the rice farmers. delay, delay and even more delay. Just get the damn thing of overthrowing this government done, so the normal people can start to rebuild the country and their lives. In most countries overthrowing a government is done in days, but yeah, we all know the Thais, never on time... Well in a normal country the courts would act, the police would act, PM would step back, etc etc. It really isn't Sutheps fault but yes he is over optimistic. It's not his fault???? If he had gone along with what he wanted in the first place (to disolve parlament and her to step down which did happen) none of this and none of the people would have been killed. Am I right or wrong. But all he wants is a complete and total dictatorship with himas the supreme being. hmm, making a constitution that has tools against corruption, fraud and vote buying and than making a a new election sound really like an evil dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The threat of state enterprise support for Suthep's 'final push' has certainly forced the PM into her shell. I wonder if we'll see the headline, "Protester's push bottles up Yingluck." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The threat of state enterprise support for Suthep's 'final push' has certainly forced the PM into her shell. I wonder if we'll see the headline, "Protester's push bottles up Yingluck." Picking up something from the PDRC daily stage foul diatribe? Classy as ever from the supposingly educated lot, at least that is what they claimed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post englishoak Posted April 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Dont need to say too much about Suthep as it is so blatantly a coup attempt that even The Nation doesn’t try to deny it any longer most of the time. Anyone still believing Suthep is doing any of this out of compassion or this isnt an attempted coup to gain power by unelected process needs their head examined Suthep is asserting without any basis that he and the PDRC has the power to nominate a PM and to countersign the order. They dont. He talks about sovereign power but has absolutely no right or power to determine anything, section 7 will not let it which means the constitution will have to be dismantled. He wants to establish a National Assembly. He doesn’t say it directly, but this would also involve tearing up the Constitution. It simply boggles the mind. So he must keep up this pretence of acting like a little toy soldier ..... Truth is this has never been about reform only power. Edited April 24, 2014 by englishoak 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxclever Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 My oh my, this facsist murderer is getting more desperate day by day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Again Suthep calls on the people to get ready for the "final", the man has it right with many of his points, but he starts to look like this government willingness to pay the rice farmers. delay, delay and even more delay. Just get the damn thing of overthrowing this government done, so the normal people can start to rebuild the country and their lives. In most countries overthrowing a government is done in days, but yeah, we all know the Thais, never on time... In most countries where the government is overthrown by other than military coup, it is in violation of the Constitution and supported by a large majority of its citizens. The reality in Thailand is that the majority of the eligible electoriate will not support overthrowing the government, especially in violation of the Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno2 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 This suthep really is an evil person. How dare he try to run useless yingluck out of her PM position. How dare he try to get taksin removed from having any influence in Thai politics. How dare he try to reform Thai politics so that all Thais are governed fairly. How dare he try to get rid of cronyism from senior government positions. How dare he try to get all this done by peaceful means. How dare he state that when the reforms are over and fair elections are held that he will be happily sitting at home with his slippers on. He truly is the epitome of evil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Again Suthep calls on the people to get ready for the "final", the man has it right with many of his points, but he starts to look like this government willingness to pay the rice farmers. delay, delay and even more delay. Just get the damn thing of overthrowing this government done, so the normal people can start to rebuild the country and their lives. In most countries overthrowing a government is done in days, but yeah, we all know the Thais, never on time... In most countries where the government is overthrown by other than military coup, it is in violation of the Constitution and supported by a large majority of its citizens. The reality in Thailand is that the majority of the eligible electoriate will not support overthrowing the government, especially in violation of the Constitution. In reality they have already done it on a few occasions before, militarily and judicial. This is why the senate was reverted from elected to part appointed in 2006/7, to facilitate another coup more easily next time. Thai politics have rarely had stability without coups and the vastly majority here have been political or military and little to do with peoples support, let alone a majority. What has and is changing is the people are sick of it, this is why we see ever growing outrage in disrespecting the election process, every time there is a coup it just helps to erode the respect people have for both the rule of law and those that instigate it. It only turns the people against the initiators of these coups more in the long run. Suthep and co are destroying piece by piece what they claim to support whether they know it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rickirs Posted April 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Again Suthep calls on the people to get ready for the "final", the man has it right with many of his points, but he starts to look like this government willingness to pay the rice farmers. delay, delay and even more delay. Just get the damn thing of overthrowing this government done, so the normal people can start to rebuild the country and their lives. In most countries overthrowing a government is done in days, but yeah, we all know the Thais, never on time... Well in a normal country the courts would act, the police would act, PM would step back, etc etc. It really isn't Sutheps fault but yes he is over optimistic. It's not his fault???? If he had gone along with what he wanted in the first place (to disolve parlament and her to step down which did happen) none of this and none of the people would have been killed. Am I right or wrong. But all he wants is a complete and total dictatorship with himas the supreme being. hmm, making a constitution that has tools against corruption, fraud and vote buying and than making a a new election sound really like an evil dictatorship. Suthep has stated that should he gain control of the Government, he will suspend the Constitution because his reforms would violate the charter. He will further ban populist polices, ban PTP from politics, eliminate the one-man one-vote principle, and require citizens to be "educated" in order to be eligible to vote. A very busy dictator for someone who unbashedly violates People's constitutional right to vote and evades aarrest warrants for premeditated murder. If Suthep is such a champion for reform, why didn't the Democrats legislate reform when they controlled the Government from 2007-2010? If Suthep is such a champion for fighting corruption, why did he vacate his position as Deputy PM after being charged for corruption to avoid prosecution? Suthep has all the earmarks of an evil dictator. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimCM Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Wow, the final push again. What is this, number 5 or 6. After all of this time, has anyone heard of a single reform apart from vengeance against those who oppose the mighty Pol Pot Suthep. Its true that Buffalo are easily led. Surely there is some group that can form a decent opposition to this joke of a government. Thanks for sharing your hateful rant. Suteb is finding it hard to topple the regime as he is using peaceful means and the courts are working slowly. In most countries they would run in with guns blazing, drag out the PT toads and publicly execute them in the town square. PT and Hitler Thaksin are lucky that Suteb decided on the peaceful route. There are reasons he has chose to take this approach which I understand and support. I am glad we don't have the same level of mayhem and chaos as it happening in the Ukraine for instance. The reform ideas have been well laid out and discussed, just you were too busy watching the red propaganda and hatefully ranting to hear any of it I guess.... Yes, unfortunately the red buffalos have been very easily led by the Dubai fugitive and his quorum of corrupt crackpot cronies. I do however agree with your final line : Surely there is some group that can form a decent opposition to this joke of a government - Keep dreaming, it may happen one day. If the courts were working as you say, wouldn't Suthep be in jail for murder instead of saying he is too busy to turn up for his trial. These reforms you talk of, would they just be Suthep taking over complete control of the country, assigning his own people to power so they can steal instead of Thaksin's side. The suspension of the right of Thai citizens so he can line his pockets is not reform, it is a dictatorship. Look to Myanmar to see what good citizen do when they are not accountable and see Thailand's future, complete with sanctions. Then that uneducated thug will really learn how valuable those foreigners which he hates are to his little country. If you bothered to learn to read, you would also note I have no love for PT and would like Thai people to have a real political choice. I suppose you must be a local and as such are incapable of not doing what you are told. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokay Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The final push. Never saw that coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Well, people on both sides are getting tired and the sooner this will finish, the better. May the best man win Be patient....this is the final push.....#15.......then again,i think I can only handle another 3 final pushes myself And in the last six years how many efforts has Thaksin made to control Thailand ? while hiding in Dubai,behind his Sisters skirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 He has to keep his people motivated; judging from the dwindling supporters and funds and the fact that his guards are imploding. Trust me, 30th April will come and go as another day and he will still be in Lumpini Park. People who believe that he will surrender himself to the authority has too much sun. He will be gone before you can say Taksin. The electricity people are supporting democratic reforms. If all of a sudden, in the hot season, you have no air conditioning and water, start yelling Thaksin. Yell loudly. Start practicing now. I am. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand No way are the electricity people out there in support of democracy, they are out there to protect their own little fiefdom of corruption and inefficiency. The same with the Thai Airways unions and the State Railway of Thailand and other government agencies that live at the heart of corruption in Thailand. They hitch themselves to Suthep's bandwagon for no reason other than to protect their own selfish interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 He has to keep his people motivated; judging from the dwindling supporters and funds and the fact that his guards are imploding. Trust me, 30th April will come and go as another day and he will still be in Lumpini Park. People who believe that he will surrender himself to the authority has too much sun. He will be gone before you can say Taksin.The electricity people are supporting democratic reforms. If all of a sudden, in the hot season, you have no air conditioning and water, start yelling Thaksin. Yell loudly. Start practicing now. I am.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand No way are the electricity people out there in support of democracy, they are out there to protect their own little fiefdom of corruption and inefficiency.The same with the Thai Airways unions and the State Railway of Thailand and other government agencies that live at the heart of corruption in Thailand. They hitch themselves to Suthep's bandwagon for no reason other than to protect their own selfish interests. Basically, we are saying the same thing. Chalerm demands his wine is chilled and they say no. All of us in between fry. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Final Push? LIAR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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