PM asked to step down

[Lite Beer]

PM asked to step down
Chanon Wongsatayanont,
Kornchanok Raksaseri
The Sunday Nation

BANGKOK: -- Abhisit urges Yingluck, Cabinet to quit before court verdict; outlines proposal

Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, unveiling his plan to bring the country out of the political impasse, yesterday asked Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and her Cabinet to resign before a Constitutional Court ruling.

The first of the 10 steps proposed in his plan is that the election tentatively set for July 20 must be delayed.

"All Yingluck has to answer is whether she can step back from power for five to six months," Abhisit said, referring to the time before the next election would take place.

The Cabinet's resignation would pave the way for an unelected interim government to be in charge while civil society, including the Reform Now Network and the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), jointly work on guidelines and the plan for national reforms.

The interim government would run the country and solve immediate problems but would not have a mandate to pass laws because there would be no elected House of Representa-tives. During this period, no politicians would be involved in either the reform council or the country's administration, Abhisit said.

In the meantime, the Election Commission (EC) would work on amending related laws and regulations to make the election free and fair, he said. It might include regulations on election campaigns, dealing with electoral fraud and breaking election campaign promises.

In doing this, political parties that run in the next poll must agree to push for upcoming national reforms.

Only after a referendum on the reforms would an election to select another interim government be held, according to his plan. With a House of Representatives elected, laws could be amended to implement the reforms, as approved by the referendum. However, the interim government's term would last only for a year.

Abhisit said he would submit his details of his proposal to Yingluck and PDRC leader Suthep Thaug-suban on Tuesday.

He wanted an answer from Yingluck before the Constitutional Court delivers its ruling on her status in relation to the transfer of National Security Council chief Thawil Pliensri.

"If the government announces an election [by issuing the Royal Decree for the election on July 20], I will take that as the answer [for no].

"But if the government sees this plan as interesting - not necessarily accepting it - it must come and make it happen," he said.

"The main principle to get the new government to replace the current one is that it must be a government that comes from the consent [of the people involved], not being forced by the situation or anything."

Earlier, Abhisit announced that he would not take part in the next election if his plan was accepted, but his party would cooperate by running in the poll.

"If the government doesn't accept, the same thing will continue. No one can answer what will happen next," he said.

A Democrat spokesman said previously that the party may boycott the election if Abhisit's proposal was not accepted.

Abhisit insisted that his plan was completely legal. It upheld the Constitution and democratic principles.

He said his plan was different from the PDRC's reform proposal in that the unelected interim government would have no authority to amend laws as that mandate belonged only to the elected House of Representatives, while the PDRC's People's Council would be a legislative organisation.

He did not elaborate on how the unelected interim government would be set up, only saying that it would be under the mandate of the Senate Speaker, the head of the remaining legislative institution at the moment.

He said the red shirts would not lose anything except the Yingluck government having to take a break before the next election.

As Thai citizens, they could also take part in filing opinions for national reform.

"I'm aware that not everyone will be happy with this proposal, but I think it will satisfy all sides to a degree," Abhisit said.

He believes that the government will be satisfied with the eventual election and the PDRC will be happy with the opportunity to reform.

-- The Nation 2014-05-04

[See the bears]

She did step down. In accordance with the constitution and democratic principles.

[MaxLee]

PM asked to step down

I'm asking the Nation to dream on, because it ain't gonna happen.... Just a waste of paper and time

[chooka]

The Cabinet's resignation would pave the way for an unelected interim government to be in charge while civil society, including the Reform Now Network and the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), jointly work on guidelines and the plan for national reforms.

So he is basically asking her to hand power and control of the country to Suthep and the PDRC. I don't like the shins but simply handing power to these bunch of morons would be extremely dangerous.

[NongKhaiKid]

Abhisit is just going through the motions as he can't honestly believe Mr. T would allow YL to resign.

I'm sure Mr. T believes the court / NACC will not actually force her out of office, PTP will win the election and she can get on with really important things like bringing him back.

[Payboy]

At this rate he's gonna get his other hand in a sling soon.

[Thai at Heart]

This is the plan.

Just give power to Suthep and the PDRC because they are poo dee and will do the right thing?

Has anyone ever heard anything quite so stupid in all their life?

[moonao]

Abhisit, back to his usual tricks, has just cemented his place as the worst opposition leader in Thai political history.

[PatOngo]

Abhisit, back to his usual tricks, has just cemented his place as the worst opposition leader in Thai political history.

...and there you have it folks, history has just been rewritten by the most respected political commentator in the country.

[Publicus]

Abhisit, back to his usual tricks, has just cemented his place as the worst opposition leader in Thai political history.

...and there you have it folks, history has just been rewritten by the most respected political commentator in the country.

Abhisit has been tossed both domestically by the people and globally by the principal democracies and deservedly so.

Abhisit has really sh*t the bed.

I see however Abhisit still can't stop destroying himself because now he's trying blackmail, fear, outright threats.

Abhisit is determined to do everything he can to install a dictatorship and there's just no compromising about it.

Abhisit is dictating absolute demands absolutely, which an honorable leader does not do. If he's better than the people he opposes, then he certainly hasn't shown anything of it.

Abhisit and Suthep have in fact made matters much worse than things were 180 daze ago. Suthep is a loud fanatic but Abhisit is a petulant and secretive obsessive.

[geovalin]

Don't be silly. The plan is

1- Elected PM needs to leave.

2- A "god person" (aka an hysterical royalist) is appointed

3- End of story

The plan is to make the temporary gvt lasting until something important enough happens to postpone any political life in the country for years. Thus the temporary gvt will have at least 3 years to organize the new constitution which will have nothing to do with Democracy.

[Thaiisnotrequired]

Abhisit, back to his usual tricks, has just cemented his place as the worst opposition leader in Thai political history.

...and there you have it folks, history has just been rewritten by the most respected political commentator in the country.

I see however Abhisit still can't stop destroying himself because now he's trying blackmail, fear, outright threats.

Wut? Where in the OP does he attempt blackmail, instil fear or threaten? Beelocks!

[Som wat]

Why not hand the power to a group of dangerous, corrupt fascists that have strangled the country for the past 6 months because the poor little things could never be voted into power democratically.

[jayboy]

Don't be silly. The plan is

1- Elected PM needs to leave.

2- A "god person" (aka an hysterical royalist) is appointed

3- End of story

The plan is to make the temporary gvt lasting until something important enough happens to postpone any political life in the country for years. Thus the temporary gvt will have at least 3 years to organize the new constitution which will have nothing to do with Democracy.

There is a precise and analytical discussion of the Abhisit proposals on the Bangkok Pundit blog.The tone is cool and forensic, devoid of emotional posturing and all the more effective for that.The conclusions are devastating.

[smedly]

some of you arm chair critics should learn how to read before posting your nonsense, and also if you don't like what Abhisit saying then why don't you offer your own solution to the current impass (and it is not an election) this country is slowly going down the shitter at the hands of PTP with their corruption - lies - theft - blatant stupidity - and incompetency that has no rival in the world today.

This proposal by Abhisit is actually quite reasonable and probably the best solution yet to the current political impass which whether you like it or not does exist and no amount of elections will solve it - it is similar to what the president of the BOT said during a recent interview

An election right now without changes is not the answer - why is PTP not taking the initiative on this they may actually gain some credit if they did - oh yeh I forgot - they are too busy extorting billions of baht from the good people of Thailand to care

[smutcakes]

some of you arm chair critics should learn how to read before posting your nonsense, and also if you don't like what Abhisit saying then why don't you offer your own solution to the current impass (and it is not an election) this country is slowly going down the shitter at the hands of PTP with their corruption - lies - theft - blatant stupidity - and incompetency that has no rival in the world today.

This proposal by Abhisit is actually quite reasonable and probably the best solution yet to the current political impass which whether you like it or not does exist and no amount of elections will solve it - it is similar to what the president of the BOT said during a recent interview

An election right now without changes is not the answer - why is PTP not taking the initiative on this they may actually gain some credit if they did - oh yeh I forgot - they are too busy extorting billions of baht from the good people of Thailand to care

To be fair amongst all the fan fair prior to the proposal being put out there surely even you were expecting something a little more detailed and believable? Anyone of us if asked to jot down a funny proposal could have come up with that in 5 mins on the back of a fag pack!

I do not have answers to the problems, but as the proposal suggests for the PM to step down, and then the PDRC to oversee reforms, are quite clearly an unconstitutional and not serious proposal.They know full well this would be roundly laughed at. (well at least i hope they did- they cannot be that far out of touch from reality)

I would like to think that the way out would be for the army to read them the ultimate riot act. ie.Sought the shit out within 6 months or we will remove all of them for good. Obviously more detailed than that, but you can see the picture.

I am not against reform, and not really against reform before an election, but it is just impossible to see how it can be done, who can do it etc, and no one has even put up a realistic non partisan idea.

[PatOngo]

some of you arm chair critics should learn how to read before posting your nonsense, and also if you don't like what Abhisit saying then why don't you offer your own solution to the current impass (and it is not an election) this country is slowly going down the shitter at the hands of PTP with their corruption - lies - theft - blatant stupidity - and incompetency that has no rival in the world today.

This proposal by Abhisit is actually quite reasonable and probably the best solution yet to the current political impass which whether you like it or not does exist and no amount of elections will solve it - it is similar to what the president of the BOT said during a recent interview

An election right now without changes is not the answer - why is PTP not taking the initiative on this they may actually gain some credit if they did - oh yeh I forgot - they are too busy extorting billions of baht from the good people of Thailand to care

It is not up to "guests" in this country to offer solutions, they are not regarded by the powers that be, it is up to the people who created this mess to sort it out.The reasons you have put forward for the country going down the shitter will continue regardless of who is in power,it's a right of passage, the best we can do when it does go down the gurgler is head to the airport and leave them to it.

[Pimay1]

Don't be silly. The plan is

1- Elected PM needs to leave.

2- A "god person" (aka an hysterical royalist) is appointed

3- End of story

The plan is to make the temporary gvt lasting until something important enough happens to postpone any political life in the country for years. Thus the temporary gvt will have at least 3 years to organize the new constitution which will have nothing to do with Democracy.

There is a precise and analytical discussion of the Abhisit proposals on the Bangkok Pundit blog.The tone is cool and forensic, devoid of emotional posturing and all the more effective for that.The conclusions are devastating.

And we all know how neutral and nonpartisan the Bangkok Pundit is.

[jaloochapurr]

I do not know if true or not but heard she was visiting in the north today.

[ginjag]

Why not hand the power to a group of dangerous, corrupt fascists that have strangled the country for the past 6 months because the poor little things could never be voted into power democratically.

You've been reading too many comic books. PTP strangled the country over the last 3 years before your FASCISTS existed.

[ginjag]

I do not know if true or not but heard she was visiting in the north today.

She stays there for her own good. Visits safe havens to buy from OTOP shops for photo sessions.

[jaloochapurr]

I do not comment,but she is dearly loved around here.

In country 65 klicks north of CM.

[GunterChiangMai]

some of you arm chair critics should learn how to read before posting your nonsense, and also if you don't like what Abhisit saying then why don't you offer your own solution to the current impass (and it is not an election) this country is slowly going down the shitter at the hands of PTP with their corruption - lies - theft - blatant stupidity - and incompetency that has no rival in the world today.

This proposal by Abhisit is actually quite reasonable and probably the best solution yet to the current political impass which whether you like it or not does exist and no amount of elections will solve it - it is similar to what the president of the BOT said during a recent interview

An election right now without changes is not the answer - why is PTP not taking the initiative on this they may actually gain some credit if they did - oh yeh I forgot - they are too busy extorting billions of baht from the good people of Thailand to care

It is not up to "guests" in this country to offer solutions, they are not regarded by the powers that be, it is up to the people who created this mess to sort it out.The reasons you have put forward for the country going down the shitter will continue regardless of who is in power,it's a right of passage, the best we can do when it does go down the gurgler is head to the airport and leave them to it.

Wise words! Somebody written red colour writing!!!! Must be Thai Rouge....ahhhhh?

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[fab4]

How many more times are we going to be fed the abhisit doctrine? He's been busy hawking himself around hasn't he.

[fab4]

I do not know if true or not but heard she was visiting in the north today.

She stays there for her own good. Visits safe havens to buy from OTOP shops for photo sessions.

Why, would her safety be threatened in Bangkok or the south, why would that be? The PDRC goons are all cuddly peace loving citizens aren't they?

[Stradavarius37]

Curious that we havnt heard any comment from YL on this proposal yet.

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[ginjag]

How many more times are we going to be fed the abhisit doctrine? He's been busy hawking himself around hasn't he.

more busy than your ex P.M. he isn't on Photo sessions electioneering - has she any proposals for reform NO she hasn't the gorm. Has she ever put forward anything constructive forward towards uniting the country. NO All we hear from her is (erections HA) as she once said in an interview)

A decent love the nation ex P.M. is hardly involved shows a lot for her brain power. Any ideas dear ????

I will stay as long as the majority want me is the best she can come up with.

get out---we may as well have red bull --sek loso--and the like in power.

[PREM-R]

Don't be silly. The plan is

1- Elected PM needs to leave.

2- A "god person" (aka an hysterical royalist) is appointed

3- End of story

The plan is to make the temporary gvt lasting until something important enough happens to postpone any political life in the country for years. Thus the temporary gvt will have at least 3 years to organize the new constitution which will have nothing to do with Democracy.

Wow, a moderator that has at least some idea of what this is really all about. Well done

[chainarong]

Lots of people have been asking this to happen since day one , Thaskin secret plan was to be back here in-charge by now , hence all those junket trips to keep Yingluck out of the way, finally in desperation, up popped a Amnesty Bill to push this agenda along a bit more quicker , however history shows that did not happen , the sister is the scape goat for Thaskin's dirty tricks department , side-lining with brother Thaskin will only ruin the good name of Yingluck Shinawatra , plus the family.

[ginjag]

Curious that we havnt heard any comment from YL on this proposal yet.

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STRAD, she and PTP have been too busy thinking how they can wrangle another term ON THE FIDDLE.