Farang death procedure in Thailand

[willyumiii]

" Also, is the deaseased then burned to ashes and shipped to the person listed as "in case of emergancy" on their passport?"

Interesting question.

Who would be responsible to physically ship yout remains and who would pay for it?

[NickJ]

I think my the time your dust in a box the emergency is over.........

[Califlower]

Ask his wife if you can see his will, if she says no, or there is not one you will have to find a lawyer in Thailand. Wills are often stored at the local Amphur (council office)

Can I ask the local Amphur through email? I am not in Thailand.

Thank you for your response!!

[fey]

i believe repriation of the entire body is very expensive and requires a special container and carrier. it can be arranged if you can afford it.

ashes and urns can be returned in carry on luggage, but i dont recommend using the overhead compartments since stored items can shift during flight causing possible injury when opening the overhead bins.

[DisparateDan]

My wife and I was talking about leaving our bodies to one of the teaching hospitals,my way of thinking is once you are dead,you are dead.Has any one heard of this,if so how do you go about it?

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Easily done at Red Cross Unit in grounds of Chulalongkorn Hospital Bangkok. Pleasantly surprised to see how many locals are donating their bodies, as I know that Chinese in particular do not.

Don't know of any regional places.

As I now live near Jomtien, I understand that there is no "collection".

I have no interest in how I am disposed of when I die.

[DisparateDan]

From my Thai lawyer, paraphrased:

When a foreign man with a Thai family dies, the Will is supposed to dictate who gets what. But the Thai family is afraid that they won't get anything, so they come in and take everything.

I don't have a Thai family, but some interested parties. My executor and beneficiary live in USA and may take a month or two to come here to execute,i.e. take possession of my property and bank account.

I am hoping that the condo management will follow my instructions.(they have door keys, but only Executor has safe key and combi.)

Remove my remains..not sure or concerned what happens to them.I have no NOK.

Remove all perishables.

Do not allow interested parties any access

Turn of Power.

Lock Up.

[h90]

The procedure varies depending upon the place where the event occurs -- at home, in hospital; nationality of the deceased; witnesses present; circumstances of the death -- i.e. long illness with anticipated death vs. sudden death, etc. In general, when a foreigner dies at home, the police are called and the body is taken to the morgue. Often an autopsy is ordered if the death wasn't anticipated. In all cases, the Embassy/Consulate of the foreigner is notified. The grapevine works very quickly here. It's difficult to hide the death of a foreigner and quite commonly the deceased's Thai bank accounts are frozen until the next-of-kin presents appropriate documentation (like a court order or Will) to the bank. Not always (some widows have be able to continue to use ATM cards, but not always) Bodies are almost always cremated here.

I got told from one embassy that they send about 1 body-bag per week back to Europe (mostly the Pattaya/Alcohol/Viagra/old age and motorbike accidents) but that are mostly people on holidays.

[DisparateDan]

Judging by the humorous/frivolous responses I didn't make myself clear enough.

When I said "definitely do not want prolonged unnecessary pain and suffering"

I meant that I decide when, how and at what circumstances I will be going.

A friend of mine (MD) suggested barbiturates OD. I want it to be sure (reliable), painless and without discomfort.

Leaving palliative care, painkillers and mourning crowds to the jokers. Do not suggest aspirin, paracetamol, codeine, nurofen, etc.

Jokers, please control your bladders. Thanks.

A litre bottle of whisky and a few hundred valium 10mgs and you will lose consciousness and not wake up... Regardless of age or medical condition

The helium bag is a good one, saw some children s' inflatables this week that were clearly filled with helium, need to check out a supplier.

[CharlieH]

Ask his wife if you can see his will, if she says no, or there is not one you will have to find a lawyer in Thailand. Wills are often stored at the local Amphur (council office)

"Can I ask the local Amphur through email? I am not in Thailand.

Thank you for your response!!"

Highly unlikely. Even if you couod get an appropriate email, you have the language barrier and then identity to verify and relationship as by email you could be anyone.

The only way, in my opinion, that you will get any real help is in person, in Thailand.

[DisparateDan]

I tried to lodge my will in the local amphur, No-one there, staff or gathered throng, was prepared to sign as witness that it was lodged there, not as witnesses to the will itself.

Even an offer of Baht1000 would not persuade anyone.

I simply gave the will in Thai and English witnessed by two reliable Thai people to my executor.

[fey]

i have heard several long term expats (over 10 years) strongly say they have a fear of passing away in thailand, rather then in their home country.

i find it interesting, because other then this one break, everything else is thailand as home, or is it?

as for me, my remains shall be handed over to a competent scatter at sea service in my home country. one thing i dont care for is some botched service at a local wat or making my relatives sit through some strange service they dont understand or deal thai stuff which can come across as uncaring and cold if your not used to buddhism.

Edited November 28, 2015 by fey

[taff33]

My wife and I was talking about leaving our bodies to one of the teaching hospitals,my way of thinking is once you are dead,you are dead.Has any one heard of this,if so how do you go about it?

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

Easily done at Red Cross Unit in grounds of Chulalongkorn Hospital Bangkok. Pleasantly surprised to see how many locals are donating their bodies, as I know that Chinese in particular do not.

Don't know of any regional places.

As I now live near Jomtien, I understand that there is no "collection".

I have no interest in how I am disposed of when I die.[/quote i have done it now with chiang Mai university hospital.

[FritsSikkink]

Ask his wife if you can see his will, if she says no, or there is not one you will have to find a lawyer in Thailand. Wills are often stored at the local Amphur (council office)

Can I ask the local Amphur through email? I am not in Thailand.

Thank you for your response!!if you can write Thai

[metisdead]

An unhelpful nonsense post has been removed.

[keeniau96]

About two years ago the father of a good friend died here on Phuket. The gent had been living with my friend in house with the family (Thai wife and a son). Old gent, late 80's, just natural old man death. Several children (all well over 40 yrs old) of the deceased wanted the body back to be buried in family plot in USA. i did not participate in any aspect but did hear a good bit about it from my friend, who had to make all the arrangements on Thai end. Quite a bit of forms and hassle but US Embassy was of much help. Airfreight shipping of the body, special box, cost overall was more than US$5k.

[tailspin]

Hate to add too much levity to the this extremely serious topic, but sometimes, a little Monty Python is called for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arwZcw0Ejcc

[English 1]

On 5/14/2014 at 0:37 AM, uptheos said:

I have heard that the bones are offered back not ashes.

Any idea how true this is?

There are NO ASHES from any cremation thats just a nice way of putting it.

Large bones are ground up i Western countries but in Thailand they are broken up using a hammer or whatever.

[uptheos]

1 hour ago, English 1 said:

There are NO ASHES from any cremation thats just a nice way of putting it.

Large bones are ground up i Western countries but in Thailand they are broken up using a hammer or whatever.

 

No of course you cant separate specific ashes and it's a pleasant way of putting it.

I should have said that whole pieces of bones are offered instead of ground up. 

[petestry]

i am just making inquiries about donating my body to the medical university in chiang mai,
i believe they take care of everything even the cost & the cremation,
i do believe i need a authorized letter from the uk embassy stating these are my final demands & wishes.  

[jayceenik]

52 minutes ago, petestry said:

i am just making inquiries about donating my body to the medical university in chiang mai,
i believe they take care of everything even the cost & the cremation,
i do believe i need a authorized letter from the uk embassy stating these are my final demands & wishes.  

Make the letter yourself stating your final disposition desiderata and have it notarized at your Embassy.

Myself I have made a short simple letter in three languages (French=my nationality language; English; Thai=for the Police) stating that my named TGF is the one designated by me to do what she needs to do with my body after I die. In this letter I also state that I have no family and nobody to notify and receive eventual instructions from in Thailand or anywhere else.

I paid 800b for the notarization stamp at the Belgian Embassy in BKK. 

And a copy has been put in my registration file at the Embassy.

 

And indeed it's a very good idea to donate your body to a medical uni. Before I went serious with my present TGF I too had done a registration with a medical uni in BKK. It sure simplifies our final departure but now my TGF wants to be the one taking care of the cremation.

[scorecard]

5 hours ago, jayceenik said:

Make the letter yourself stating your final disposition desiderata and have it notarized at your Embassy.

Myself I have made a short simple letter in three languages (French=my nationality language; English; Thai=for the Police) stating that my named TGF is the one designated by me to do what she needs to do with my body after I die. In this letter I also state that I have no family and nobody to notify and receive eventual instructions from in Thailand or anywhere else.

I paid 800b for the notarization stamp at the Belgian Embassy in BKK. 

And a copy has been put in my registration file at the Embassy.

 

And indeed it's a very good idea to donate your body to a medical uni. Before I went serious with my present TGF I too had done a registration with a medical uni in BKK. It sure simplifies our final departure but now my TGF wants to be the one taking care of the cremation.

 

Just a small addition to donating body / body parts:

 

As mentioned a couple of years back by NancyL, there seems to be an age limit where medical schools will accept full bodies for medical research but apparently no age limit re donation of organs for transplant, kidneys, eyes and more if in good condition 

[poanoi]

On 5/14/2014 at 4:03 PM, Suradit69 said:

I consulted the US embassy in Bangkok and they said if I have a Thai will (which I do) stating that my designated Thai executor be allowed to proceed with my funeral arrangement without interference, they won't get involved. Thai lawyer agreed that what I stipulate in my will is what will be implemented.

I also will be buried, not incinerated. My small plot of land designated for that purpose is mine for 30 years from the time of burial, although some of my neighbors-to-be have remained undisturbed for more than 30 years.

ok, i want to have this sorted out so i get cremated asap,

So: how do i get a thai exacutor ?

also, is it too much to ask they turn up the heat so only ashes remains ?

[BlackJack]

there is a lot of old info here and so anyone with questions can PM me