Ousted Thai PM Thaksin says martial law must not 'destroy' democracy

[khunken]

These guys win elections as well:

North Korea's Kim Jong-un gets 100% of 'yes' votes in election

Saddam 'wins 100% of vote'

Hey! These guys did even better than Abhisit!. He only got 98% of the vote, even though he was the only candidate, when the Democrat party allowed 35 of their dear leaders to vote.

In case you missed it, PTP don't even bother to elect their leader. He owns the bloody party and tells them how to vote.

Are you under instructions too?

[In Town]

Hey! These guys did even better than Abhisit!. He only got 98% of the vote, even though he was the only candidate, when the Democrat party allowed 35 of their dear leaders to vote.

These guys win elections as well:

North Korea's Kim Jong-un gets 100% of 'yes' votes in election

Saddam 'wins 100% of vote'

In case you missed it, PTP don't even bother to elect their leader. He owns the bloody party and tells them how to vote.

Are you under instructions too?

I could be wrong, but as best as I remember the people of Thailand elected the leader of the PTP.

[daboyz1]

These guys win elections as well:

North Korea's Kim Jong-un gets 100% of 'yes' votes in election

Saddam 'wins 100% of vote'

Hey! These guys did even better than Abhisit!. He only got 98% of the vote, even though he was the only candidate, when the Democrat party allowed 35 of their dear leaders to vote.

Abhisit got 98% of the vote in an election? I must have missed that one.

[casualbiker]

Hey! These guys did even better than Abhisit!. He only got 98% of the vote, even though he was the only candidate, when the Democrat party allowed 35 of their dear leaders to vote.

These guys win elections as well:

North Korea's Kim Jong-un gets 100% of 'yes' votes in election

Saddam 'wins 100% of vote'

In case you missed it, PTP don't even bother to elect their leader. He owns the bloody party and tells them how to vote.

Are you under instructions too?

I could be wrong, but as best as I remember the people of Thailand elected the leader of the PTP.

How wrong could you be.. amazing!

The leader of the PTP party is Jarupong Ruangsuwan.

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Edited May 20, 2014 by casualbiker

[bkk75]

Rationality is a pearl beyond price.

Oh master buffalo your wisdom is truly inspiring.

I will follow you .. Please grant me the daily ration of arsenal so I can defend your dictatorship.. Erm..I mean democracy.

[Skywalker69]

Good to see him involved. He plays by the rules and wins elections fair and square. 100 years from now his statue will be everywhere, and noone will remember, Prayuth, Abhisit, Suthep, and the rest of the democracy destroyers.

...............are you being sarcastic or is that a genuine response?.....................

Possibly hyperbole, but not sarcasm. I genuinely believe he was the best PM Thailand has had. I'm not blind to his flaws, but I'm also not blind to the flaws of other Thai politicians. Is he corrupt? Almost certainly. But is he more corrupt than others? Probably not. Politicians and soldiers and police colonels and generals in Thailand all drive Jaguars or Mercedes. Thaksin at least pandered to the poor, decreased infant mortality, and has been at the forefront on a cultural transition from the old feudal system towards modern democracy. Is he perfect? No. Is he the devil? No. Anyway, what I think doesn't matter as much as what the people of Thailand think, and they have said, over and over, that they prefer him or his proxies to anyone else on offer.

You must be stupid or trolling, witch is it?

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Hmm. Who is making a rational argument here, and who is throwing insults, but not attempting to employ either reason or fact. Which (not witch) approach is more intelligent in your view?

Please get out of town and even out of this solarsystem. There is no reason in your trolling. Whom are you? Oak?

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[harryfrompattaya]

Good to see him involved. He plays by the rules and wins elections fair and square. 100 years from now his statue will be everywhere, and noone will remember, Prayuth, Abhisit, Suthep, and the rest of the democracy destroyers.

I am glad you say it great. Thaksin is a great man I will like to donate to the statue fund

[In Town]

Rationality is a pearl beyond price.

Oh master buffalo your wisdom is truly inspiring.

I will follow you .. Please grant me the daily ration of arsenal so I can defend your dictatorship.. Erm..I mean democracy.

buffalo soldier, deadlock rasta...

[casualbiker]

Except - Thaksin wins elections, wins elections, wins elections. Get it?

These guys win elections as well:

North Korea's Kim Jong-un gets 100% of 'yes' votes in election

Saddam 'wins 100% of vote'

Hey! These guys did even better than Abhisit!. He only got 98% of the vote, even though he was the only candidate, when the Democrat party allowed 35 of their dear leaders to vote.

At least they voted.. PTP don't. Thaksin elects the PM. He learned from Samak to not use an outsider hasn't done it since!

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[pitrevie]

Good to see him involved. He plays by the rules and wins elections fair and square. 100 years from now his statue will be everywhere, and noone will remember, Prayuth, Abhisit, Suthep, and the rest of the democracy destroyers.

I recall that Herman Goering told his interrogators at Nuremberg the same thing. Long after he was dead and gone there would be statues all over Germany of him. I somehow think your prediction will be as accurate.

[khunken]

Hey! These guys did even better than Abhisit!. He only got 98% of the vote, even though he was the only candidate, when the Democrat party allowed 35 of their dear leaders to vote.

These guys win elections as well:

Saddam 'wins 100% of vote'

In case you missed it, PTP don't even bother to elect their leader. He owns the bloody party and tells them how to vote.

Are you under instructions too?

I could be wrong, but as best as I remember the people of Thailand elected the leader of the PTP.

Changing the subject - pure dishonesty.

You mentioned Abhisit's vote by the Dems, I mentioned PTP's lack of any vote. I'll put it in very simple term so you can understand.

Who 'elected' Yingluck as the leader of PTP? Was it by any chance Thaksin? Seems like you don't understand what is democratic and what is not - just like your hero.

[thaigold]

This might not be the proper time for non-Thais to directly discuss or criticize any aspect of the Thai political impasse. But I will offer a simple clue to the situation by analogy and metaphor. In the United States, we had a President named Reagan. He passed away several years ago, but millions of Americans still praise and idolize him. If you are a member of the conservative/rightwing side of the American political faction, you cannot gain political office without vociferously supporting “Reaganism.” This belief “ism” in Ronald Reagan is part of the Republican Party’s DNA.

Well, the Land of Smiles has another (ism) baked into its DNA, and the majority of voters are not going to relinquish this powerful “ism.” The only answer is the ballot box … and unlike the USA, Thai law says Thais must vote. Please work together, Thai people. We love you. Thank you.

[ianf]

Good to see him involved. He plays by the rules and wins elections fair and square. 100 years from now his statue will be everywhere, and noone will remember, Prayuth, Abhisit, Suthep, and the rest of the democracy destroyers.

It's a mystery to me how people can call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. If you study Thaksin's autocratic history; if you compare Thaksin's modus operandi to other dictators of recent years; if you look at his political connections ...........etc etc etc and if you understood all those things you certainly would not call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. There is nothing in his history to even suggest that that is his game. I despair at the ignorance of some people on this forum.

[In Town]

Good to see him involved. He plays by the rules and wins elections fair and square. 100 years from now his statue will be everywhere, and noone will remember, Prayuth, Abhisit, Suthep, and the rest of the democracy destroyers.

It's a mystery to me how people can call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. If you study Thaksin's autocratic history; if you compare Thaksin's modus operandi to other dictators of recent years; if you look at his political connections ...........etc etc etc and if you understood all those things you certainly would not call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. There is nothing in his history to even suggest that that is his game. I despair at the ignorance of some people on this forum.

Dude! Ever hear of elections? I think they have something to do with democracy, but hey, I'm ignorant.

[Siripon]

There is no democracy in Pheua Thai, Thaksin decides who will be the leader or PM, either a family member or a minion.

Luckily his star is waning, too many policies have failed, soon only the truly besotted or idiotic will continue to hold up his or his sister's photo at rallies.

Notice how Yingluck declined to climb on the red stage last weekend despite just losing her job, shows how much importance she attaches to the red shirts - zero.

[Mackie]

Good to see him involved. He plays by the rules and wins elections fair and square. 100 years from now his statue will be everywhere, and noone will remember, Prayuth, Abhisit, Suthep, and the rest of the democracy destroyers.

It's a mystery to me how people can call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. If you study Thaksin's autocratic history; if you compare Thaksin's modus operandi to other dictators of recent years; if you look at his political connections ...........etc etc etc and if you understood all those things you certainly would not call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. There is nothing in his history to even suggest that that is his game. I despair at the ignorance of some people on this forum.

Dude! Ever hear of elections? I think they have something to do with democracy, but hey, I'm ignorant.

Your attempt at being ironic utterly failed. Yes, you are ignorant. The election doesn't equal democracy. Following your failed logic Zimbabwe, North Korea, Cambodia etc...etc...could be called democracies.

Thaksin is the last person who should say anything about democracy. He ruled with the iron fist, targeting independent organisations and media, extra judicial killings, etc...etc...Get some perspective., will you?

http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/thailand

Human Rights Concerns

Under the previous elected government of Thai Rak Thai (Thai Love Thai) leader and media tycoon Thaksin Shinawatra (January 2001 -- September 2006), there were widespread violations of human rights in Thailand. During Thaksin’s first term (January 2001 -- January 2005), eighteen human rights defenders were assassinated and one was disappeared. Although arrests have been made for some of the murders, many of the cases remain unresolved. In February 2002, Thaksin's government launched a "War on Drugs," which involved the extrajudicial killings of over 2700 individuals who came under suspicion by police and other state agents of being involved in the drug trade.

In January 2004, martial law was declared in the three insurgent southernmost Muslim-majority provinces of Yala, Narathiwat, and Pattani. In July 2005, martial law was changed to a state of emergency, giving the Thai government even greater power in the South. Since the initial declaration of martial law, a tremendous number of insurgents, Thai state officials, and civilians have died as a result of the ongoing conflict in the South.

Edited May 20, 2014 by Mackie

[HOAX]

What democracy is Thaksin talking about? There is no democracy, anywhere, by anyone, in Thailand.

[Bkkbound]

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The irony of this is wild, this clown has done more damage to thai society and its evolving democracy than any other individual. He bribed his way through his first election fraud and carried on throwing billions of baht into his own bank account. The end of the sin era is long overdue.

Just like they all do so whats new about that?

Here is wisdom:

A maggot can only feed on an infected wound.

They want to get rid of the maggot but they refuse to clean or even admit the wound is filthy and infected

Whatever the wound,the first shin election fraud created a cycle that did nothing to address Thailands 'wound', he exploited and caused a deterioration that has created endemic corruption, lawlessness and a country without a clear vision of its own future..If only the bomb on his airplane had taken him out 10 yrs ago, all this nonsense could have been avoided.

It may well take a generation or more before politics in Thailand can be regarded as genuinely representative of Thailand and whose aim is altruistic rather than blatantly self serving and degenerative .

Where will the next generation of Thai politicians come from?

Edited May 20, 2014 by Bkkbound

[Just1Voice]

Not sure which topic to put this in, but here's some very good, albeit probably unknown to the majority, background information that is worth reading.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/122585/what-is-the-likelihood-of-the-thai-military-staging-a-coup/

[paulmw]

The caretaker government wanted Martial Law - it is the only way to have elections and stop the PDRC/Suthep/Fake Monk.

This is why Thaksin says its expected............. it was, totally expected. The only way to stop the Judiciary from protecting the PDRC was Martial Law........... now its in the Judiciary are powerless and the army can oversee elections. Was it Martial Law agreed over Skype ?

This is what Surapong said on the 16th of May........

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Surapong-voices-support-for-martial-law-30233791.html

"But they may control the situation to prevent violence by declaring martial law, which is not a coup," Surapong said.

"If martial law is declared, the military will run the operation to maintain security and the CAPO will not get involved. And I believe that if the martial law is declared nationwide, the election can be held."

You think this is an arrangement between Thaksin, the PTP and the army???

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

They have chopped the balls off CAPO/UDD

The people still have the right to a national strike by the way.

The senate will now be able to appoint a new PM and cabinet with no threats from anyone.

Your silly little quote from the lizard man was nothing but a twisted and spun response to Prayuth's threat of full military force if the violence from the reds using war weapons did not stop after yet another three protesters lost their lives. He wasn't predicting a martial law, I bet he is as shocked as anyone.

I am guessing that the fact the army caught a cabinet minister with a cache of M16s in his car didn't help.

"If martial law is declared, the military will run the operation to maintain security and the CAPO will not get involved"

Nope.... CAPO HQ was stormed and everyone booted out, including Lizard Man.

You are unknowingly celebrating a PDRC victory and you don't even know it.

Boy are we going to have some fun with you in the coming weeks.

Now what am I going to do for my daily laugh with CAPO and Chalem removed from their demands and idle threats from these jokers.

Any curses for withdrawal symptoms.

[Artisi]

Hey! These guys did even better than Abhisit!. He only got 98% of the vote, even though he was the only candidate, when the Democrat party allowed 35 of their dear leaders to vote.

These guys win elections as well:

In case you missed it, PTP don't even bother to elect their leader. He owns the bloody party and tells them how to vote.

Are you under instructions too?

I could be wrong, but as best as I remember the people of Thailand elected the leader of the PTP.

Correct, wrong.

[scorecard]

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Good to see him involved. He plays by the rules and wins elections fair and square. 100 years from now his statue will be everywhere, and noone will remember, Prayuth, Abhisit, Suthep, and the rest of the democracy destroyers.

It's a mystery to me how people can call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. If you study Thaksin's autocratic history; if you compare Thaksin's modus operandi to other dictators of recent years; if you look at his political connections ...........etc etc etc and if you understood all those things you certainly would not call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. There is nothing in his history to even suggest that that is his game. I despair at the ignorance of some people on this forum.

Dude! Ever hear of elections? I think they have something to do with democracy, but hey, I'm ignorant.

You ever heard the comment 'democracy is more than elections'?

[In Town]

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Good to see him involved. He plays by the rules and wins elections fair and square. 100 years from now his statue will be everywhere, and noone will remember, Prayuth, Abhisit, Suthep, and the rest of the democracy destroyers.

It's a mystery to me how people can call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. If you study Thaksin's autocratic history; if you compare Thaksin's modus operandi to other dictators of recent years; if you look at his political connections ...........etc etc etc and if you understood all those things you certainly would not call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. There is nothing in his history to even suggest that that is his game. I despair at the ignorance of some people on this forum.

Dude! Ever hear of elections? I think they have something to do with democracy, but hey, I'm ignorant.

You ever heard the comment 'democracy is more than elections'?

Yes I have, and maybe it is, but I am absolutely sure it is at least elections. No elections, no democracy.

[fasteddie]

Good to see him involved. He plays by the rules and wins elections fair and square. 100 years from now his statue will be everywhere, and noone will remember, Prayuth, Abhisit, Suthep, and the rest of the democracy destroyers.

It's a mystery to me how people can call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. If you study Thaksin's autocratic history; if you compare Thaksin's modus operandi to other dictators of recent years; if you look at his political connections ...........etc etc etc and if you understood all those things you certainly would not call Abhisit a 'democracy destroyer'. There is nothing in his history to even suggest that that is his game. I despair at the ignorance of some people on this forum.

Dude! Ever hear of elections? I think they have something to do with democracy, but hey, I'm ignorant.

You ever heard the comment 'democracy is more than elections'?

Yeah! Always by losers and fascists.

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[Robby nz]

Thaksin has just been on the 9 oclock news from HK saying he will never take a step back he only steps forward.

[Just1Voice]

Yeah! Always by losers and fascists.

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[harryfrompattaya]

I am a guestin Thailand, Retirement Visa. But I have a Wife, Step-son and all her family I care about. I have helped four Thailand Children get a college degree and my Step-Son has two more years for an Electrical Engineering Degree. I have many friend who farm and they all deserve better than the have been getting from the Government.

So yes I have an interst as well, been here ten years and expect to live another twn, God willing !!

I really wish "Dubai Dude" would shut-up, go away or whatever it takes to end his control of the corruption. The Army stopped short of a "Final Solution" for this guy, he should consider himself lucky and shut up.

Jerry

My hat off to you for being the savor of your wife's family. But is sad you attack Thaksin he is the greatest I guess I should tell he is a member of my wife family

[Bpuumike]

yes destroying democracy is his job.....don't need the army for that

Only the third post but you beat me to it.

[Traveling Sailor]

Too bad there isn't a law that says, "Any person who leaves the country to avoid prosecution cannot be quoted or spoken of/about on radio, TV or in any newspaper until that person returns to the kingdom to face charges."

[mrtoad]

I am a guestin Thailand, Retirement Visa. But I have a Wife, Step-son and all her family I care about. I have helped four Thailand Children get a college degree and my Step-Son has two more years for an Electrical Engineering Degree. I have many friend who farm and they all deserve better than the have been getting from the Government.

So yes I have an interst as well, been here ten years and expect to live another twn, God willing !!

I really wish "Dubai Dude" would shut-up, go away or whatever it takes to end his control of the corruption. The Army stopped short of a "Final Solution" for this guy, he should consider himself lucky and shut up.

Jerry

My hat off to you for being the savor of your wife's family. But is sad you attack Thaksin he is the greatest I guess I should tell he is a member of my wife family

My condolences.