PGCEi from Keele or Nottingham

[canadianinbkk]

I've been thinking of getting my PGCEi to further my career as a teacher. I recognize this maybe completely useless once I go back to North America. The price at Keele university is 4,500£ for in-service teachers and Nottingham is 3,170£ which is quite a dramatic difference.

Anyone out there with any advice or taken the course before? Thanks!

[simon43]

How much in-class attendance is required by Keels? Nottingham requires one to initially attend for several days of intensive, in-class sessions in Bangkok, but after that it is all online study.

Simon

[otherstuff1957]

I don't mean to be discouraging, but a friend of one of my coworkers got a PGCEi from Nottingham and was told by the TCT that they are now requiring an MEd!

Of course, this is the TCT that we are talking about and we could probably get 5 different answers from them if we asked the same question on 5 different days!

[bkkgooner]

I don't mean to be discouraging, but a friend of one of my coworkers got a PGCEi from Nottingham and was told by the TCT that they are now requiring an MEd!

Of course, this is the TCT that we are talking about and we could probably get 5 different answers from them if we asked the same question on 5 different days!

Yes there are lots of different answers at the moment from the TCT at the moment on this. I am planning to begin the PGCE in October some people from the school are visiting the TCT this week to get an official response on the matter.

[canadianinbkk]

Please do update me on the final answer. Thanks!

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[Yooyung]

I'd also love to know the answer that was given by the TCT....any further news?

[brianp0803]

Someone finished their PGCEi last year and he says will get his teaching license soon.

But I often hear "Pgcei is currently accepted".

It is a certificate, not an education degree

[brianp0803]

I am thinking about getting a master's degree in education from ABAC.

I think this is respected in Thailand but not sure internationally.

I heard it can be completed in 2 years but stretched to 5 years if working and limited time.

Not sure if can get student visa for studying 5 years

[casualbiker]

I am thinking about getting a master's degree in education from ABAC.

I think this is respected in Thailand but not sure internationally.

I heard it can be completed in 2 years but stretched to 5 years if working and limited time.

Not sure if can get student visa for studying 5 years

If you are working then you wouldn't need a student visa as you will have a WP and extension of stay!

[SheungWan]

If you are intending returning to the USA then if you can get admission and can afford the living costs, undertaking your course at the Insitute of Education, University of London, will look better on your CV. http://www.ioe.ac.uk/index.html

Edited October 25, 2014 by SheungWan

[sustento]

Nottingham is part of the Russell Group (together with places like Oxford, Cambridge and Durham) and is further up the ranking table than Keele.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/ng-interactive/2014/jun/02/university-league-tables-2015-the-complete-list

http://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/our-universities/3783-university-of-nottingham/

[SheungWan]

Nottingham is part of the Russell Group (together with places like Oxford, Cambridge and Durham) and is further up the ranking table than Keele.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/ng-interactive/2014/jun/02/university-league-tables-2015-the-complete-list

http://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/our-universities/3783-university-of-nottingham/

Sure, But in the States the only thing Nottingham is really famous for is Robin Hood.

[SheungWan]

Nottingham is part of the Russell Group (together with places like Oxford, Cambridge and Durham) and is further up the ranking table than Keele.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/ng-interactive/2014/jun/02/university-league-tables-2015-the-complete-list

http://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/our-universities/3783-university-of-nottingham/

Sure, But in the States the only thing Nottingham is really famous for is Robin Hood.

On the other hand Nottingham has some special status in Asia for having established the UK's first uni campus in Mainland China and appointing Professor Yang Fujia as its Chancellor 2000-2012.

League tables take an institution only so far. Brand and easy identification are also beneficial.

Edited October 25, 2014 by SheungWan

[sustento]

Nottingham is part of the Russell Group (together with places like Oxford, Cambridge and Durham) and is further up the ranking table than Keele.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/ng-interactive/2014/jun/02/university-league-tables-2015-the-complete-list

http://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/our-universities/3783-university-of-nottingham/

Sure, But in the States the only thing Nottingham is really famous for is Robin Hood.

I'm sure that anyone involved in education in the US would know what the Russell Group is.

[SheungWan]

Nottingham is part of the Russell Group (together with places like Oxford, Cambridge and Durham) and is further up the ranking table than Keele.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/ng-interactive/2014/jun/02/university-league-tables-2015-the-complete-list

http://www.russellgroup.ac.uk/our-universities/3783-university-of-nottingham/

Sure, But in the States the only thing Nottingham is really famous for is Robin Hood.

I'm sure that anyone involved in education in the US would know what the Russell Group is.

Yes they would but Nottingham status more defined as a redbrick and less exciting/interesting than some others. I would still recommend Institute of Ed all other factors considered. Dunno why the OP just has Notts and Keele as options. And neither place has a decent football team. My case rests.

[mraitchison]

You cannot apply for QTS with a PGCEi. So no NQT year and no lucrative overseas contracts

[SheungWan]

Please do update me on the final answer. Thanks!

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BTW, are you referring to Nottingham University or Nottingham Trent University?

[AjarnDara]

I don't mean to be discouraging, but a friend of one of my coworkers got a PGCEi from Nottingham and was told by the TCT that they are now requiring an MEd!

Of course, this is the TCT that we are talking about and we could probably get 5 different answers from them if we asked the same question on 5 different days!

I'm studying with Nottingham now, it's a great course and it was great to meet the tutors in BKK for the introductory weekend. For what it's worth (regarding the TCT) - the PGCEi acts as the first module of the three modules required for a Masters degree in Education. But after paying for an M.Ed., who would want to work for a government school and for 30% of your potential salary anyway? Things have to change, and as you say ask the same question on another day ...

Edited February 9, 2015 by AjarnDara