NCPO opts to cost-cutting measures to replace rice pledging scheme

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NCPO opts to cost-cutting measures to replace rice pledging scheme

BANGKOK, 19 June 2014 (NNT) - The National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) has asked for cooperation from vendors of agricultural factors to provide discounts to rice farmers, in an attempt to help the latter cut cost by at least 500 baht per rai. The measure has been devised to replace the now-abolished rice pledging program.

The decision was reached during yesterday’s meeting of the NCPO, the Thai Rice Millers Association, the Thai Rice Exporters Association, the Thai Rice Farmers Association, related government units, and the Committee on formulation of measures to boost rice production and marketing.

NCPO Deputy Head for Economic Affairs and chairman of the afore-mentioned committee, General Chatchai Sarigalya, said the meeting concluded that private operators would all join the mission to reduce rice production cost by at least 500 baht per rai. Currently farmers are spending approximately 4,000 baht per rai in their operation.

To achieve the goal, vendors of fertilizers, pesticides, seeds, farming equipment and land owners have agreed to give discounts to rice farmers. At the same time, the Bank for Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives would provide low interest loans to rice farmers and would soon issue additional measures to take care of paddy prices.

Chairman of the Thai Rice Farmers Association, Wichian Puanglamjiak, meanwhile, requested that the cost-cutting measures should be separated for farmers in irrigated areas and non-irrigated areas. He said farmers in non-irrigated zone usually have higher operating cost and, therefore, should not share the same benefit as the other group.

Mr. Wichian also stated that the NCPO’s commitment to guarantee prices of paddy at 8,000-9,000 baht per ton is acceptable to farmers for the moment.


-- NNT 2014-06-19

[djjamie]

To achieve the goal, vendors of fertilizers, pesticides, seeds, farming equipment and land owners have agreed to give discounts to rice farmers.

Even though I am a fan of the democracy restoration team I don't really agree with this. So only rice farmers get the discounts? So what is stopping rubber farmers and corn farmers paying a small "token" fee to rice farmers to buy the product of them? The rice farmers could in fact buy all the product from the vendors and sell it on at a profit.

​Why should the vendors suffer profit loss at the behest of the rice farmers. So because the rice farmers have become accustomed to populism and had no drive to improve farming efficiencies is to the detriment of the vendors bottom line?

Give them their 1500 baht a ton subsidy while phasing in the reform that Buddha Issara outlined (I have Thai version if you want it). It is based on His Majesties "New Theory" model (look no further than the 1000 baht note to see a picture of the model) and mirrors other efforts found throughout the world attempting to break the back of the oppression and exploitation that results from dependence of populist policies and globalism. In fact the Junta reform has an uncanny similarity to Buhhda Issara's model and will no doubt be embraced by the populous.

The above short term "solutions" are a token of good will and are to be appreciated, but it is open to corruption and it's counter productive to the current mind set of reform. Buddha Issara's model is not. Self sufficiency never is.

Edited June 19, 2014 by djjamie

[ianf]

The error here is not giving discounts for pesticides of which there is over use in Thailand. I would say: Charge a premium tax on all pesticides. Discourage their use.

Then introduce new and proven natural methods for increasing the rice yield per Rai. This way everyone (except multinational pesticide producers) wins:

1. The farmer produces more rice for less effort

2. The State receives income from taxation, but does not spend it on subsidies

3. Rice consumers get healthier rice

4. The farmers' incomes increase

5. Wildlife (such as birds and butterflies) do not get poisoned with the pesticides.

Any extra Government money that may be available should be spent on a network of Agricultural advisory centres teaching the farmers new and efficient methods for growing rice.

[Skywalker69]

To achieve the goal, vendors of fertilizers, pesticides, seeds, farming equipment and land owners have agreed to give discounts to rice farmers.

Even though I am a fan of the democracy restoration team I don't really agree with this. So only rice farmers get the discounts? So what is stopping rubber farmers and corn farmers paying a small "token" fee to rice farmers to buy the product of them? The rice farmers could in fact buy all the product from the vendors and sell it on at a profit.

​Why should the vendors suffer profit loss at the behest of the rice farmers. So because the rice farmers have become accustomed to populism and had no drive to improve farming efficiencies is to the detriment of the vendors bottom line?

Give them their 1500 baht a ton subsidy while phasing in the reform that Buddha Issara outlined (I have Thai version if you want it). It is based on His Majesties "New Theory" model (look no further than the 1000 baht note to see a picture of the model) and mirrors other efforts found throughout the world attempting to break the back of the oppression and exploitation that results from dependence of populist policies and globalism. In fact the Junta reform has an uncanny similarity to Buhhda Issara's model and will no doubt be embraced by the populous.

The above short term "solutions" are a token of good will and are to be appreciated, but it is open to corruption and it's counter productive to the current mind set of reform. Buddha Issara's model is not. Self sufficiency never is.

​Why should the vendors suffer profit loss at the behest of the rice farmers.

Because when PTP launched the rice sceme the very same vendors increased the prices of fertilizers, pesticides, seeds, farming equipment and the landowners the lease of land.

[thumper101]

To achieve the goal, vendors of fertilizers, pesticides, seeds, farming equipment and land owners have agreed to give discounts to rice farmers.

Even though I am a fan of the democracy restoration team I don't really agree with this. So only rice farmers get the discounts? So what is stopping rubber farmers and corn farmers paying a small "token" fee to rice farmers to buy the product of them? The rice farmers could in fact buy all the product from the vendors and sell it on at a profit.

​Why should the vendors suffer profit loss at the behest of the rice farmers. So because the rice farmers have become accustomed to populism and had no drive to improve farming efficiencies is to the detriment of the vendors bottom line?

Give them their 1500 baht a ton subsidy while phasing in the reform that Buddha Issara outlined (I have Thai version if you want it). It is based on His Majesties "New Theory" model (look no further than the 1000 baht note to see a picture of the model) and mirrors other efforts found throughout the world attempting to break the back of the oppression and exploitation that results from dependence of populist policies and globalism. In fact the Junta reform has an uncanny similarity to Buhhda Issara's model and will no doubt be embraced by the populous.

The above short term "solutions" are a token of good will and are to be appreciated, but it is open to corruption and it's counter productive to the current mind set of reform. Buddha Issara's model is not. Self sufficiency never is.

​Why should the vendors suffer profit loss at the behest of the rice farmers.

Because when PTP launched the rice sceme the very same vendors increased the prices of fertilizers, pesticides, seeds, farming equipment and the landowners the lease of land.

That is the EXACT problem.....

NCPO should be doing a study on the fertilizer, pesticide producers/vendors and millers' profit margins increase since the rice scam came into function so they could also line their greedy pockets at the expense of the taxpayer.

Then force the people across the entire supply chain who enriched themselves with the exploitation, to drop their prices back to 'modest' levels.

Basically tell them..... 'the rice scam is over.... you can drop your prices again'.

That organically brings back down the production costs to reality levels.... Then tell the rice farmers to do other things 'out of season'.... they should have about 7 months of free time between crops to get work in all these jobs that have been kindly vacated by silly Cambodians.

Edited June 19, 2014 by thumper101

[Eric Loh]

So is the new NCPO scheme of giving 8-9k Baht a price pledging or price guarantee and is forcing vendors to drop prices accounts to manipulating market forces. Seem like just moving the goal posts an inch or two.

[Exnavy]

'Currently farmers are spending 4,000 baht per rai.'

Don't see how it can be this much. Using contractors to turn, rotovate, and harvest the rice, using good seed and fertilising the 'requisit' amount would I reckon, work out at around 2,000 baht per rai maximum.

[NeverSure]

The General could start by dissolving the corrupt cartels that control the cost of fertilizer, chemicals and seed etc.

If he's gone after loan sharks, I missed it.

The BAAC was to provide loans to the farmers.

Some farms have been in the same family for generations, yet those families are up to their eyeballs in debt. There's someone screwing from beginning to end. Cartels control the price of production, crooked rice millers downgrade their rice, loan sharks get into the middle...

What the farmers really need are free markets with transparent competition, front to back.

[belg]

someone else always have to pay the price for looking another person great

simple economics : crops cost you more than you earn = abandon it for something else

no need to grow anything in the factory, guaranteed salary